Are most Crossdressers lazy?

[Stephanie Miller]

How many men wash and moisturize their face every day? Exercise? Pluck stray hairs? Watch their daily caloric intake? Etc.
Sure there are a few that are fanatical about it, as there are a few Gg’s that could care diddly about their daily upkeep.
But for the most part we follow a typical mans routine. We have a steak while the women have salad or fish. We shave and put on our two day old dress shirt (after smelling it to make sure it’s passable), grab a doughnut before heading out the door. The Gg’s get up early to give themselves time to wash their face, put on their face, do their hair, press their blouse, nibble at their yogurt and granola before a full body spritz and then out the door. We get home and grab a beer and hit the Lazy Boy while sweeping up the remote. Gg’s change into their sweats before inserting the “Tone your Abs” DVD.

So, yes, this is an overly exaggerated scenario, but you get the point.
As a CD we find it easier when the time comes to get dressed up to add an extra hour to our “ready time” to fix what flaws are fixable, considering our everyday lifestyle. Girdles, corsets, pancake foundation. We take pictures of ourselves. Then we daydream of what might have been. Or should be.
Yes, true Gg’s daydream as well. I mean come-on. To be a size 4 pin-up? Who wouldn’t? But at least I see the majority of Gg’s giving it the ol’ college try. Cd’s? Pass the beer and hotdogs please. :drink:

I am no exception to the typical CD . Granted I was given a high metabolism and small body mass. But I look in the mirror or at pictures and see tons of areas for improvement. I see lots of ladies on here that I am jealous of. I wish I was pretty. And yet, instead of salad – I go for the French bread.

I personally feel if my life had started different , like I wish – with me either transitioned or a real Gg – I would be glad to put in the prep time and eating habits needed. But stuck as I am… Pass the ribs please.

Are we really lazy or is it the fact that we know it is a short term charade and not worth the effort?

[Jenniferathome]

I am not lazy. I think your exaggerations are just that and not representative of life. Stereotypes can be found anywhere but that does not mean we should perpetuate them.

[dana 1]

I don't think I'm lazy, I get up in the morning make coffee for my wife read the paper watch the news, then spend 70 min. In my gym, clean the house, take the dog to the dog park, run errands, couple days a week see friends or family, come home cook dinner, read some more then watch Netflix with the wife, retirement it's not all fun and games, ha ha, my wife will retire in six months that's why I do all the chores around the house.

[Jenni Yumiko]

Agree with JenniferAtHome.
I exercise regularly, yoga, cardio. I watch what I eat, just for a healthy lifestyle. I also have a high metabolism and 20+- BMI. Healthy living has little do do with dress preference, it's a way of life.

[LaraPeterson]

Stephanie, maybe you speak for yourself, but I'm way to busy to be lazy. Many weeks I'm in the air and on the road traveling thousands of miles and working with hundreds of people. When in town, I'm almost always training clients at my local gym. And whether I'm en femme or not, I shave all over every other day and moisturize everything daily. For me, this is no charade, it is my life.

Your generalizations are likely going to anger some and irritate many. I just think it's downright dumb on your part to make such illusions, especially if your avatar is really you. If so, you are either a natural beauty or you work your ass off to look like that. Either way, you nor anyone else on here should be labeled "typical."

[Kate T]

I must live on a different planet to many other members here. In my world women aren't obsessed with calories, ironing every 5 minutes their immense wardrobe of clothes or doing 5 minute workouts. they are just living and getting on with their lives. Some are big, some are small, some are fit, some are not. They are what they are. The ones who are big are not necessarily "lazier" than those who are not.

I sort of get what you are saying, but no, being male is no excuse for being lazy. If your being lazy, your being lazy, being female is not some sort of "immunity" shot against laziness.

[Erica Marie]

We all have our bouts of laziness. But not all of us. I get up at 5 to get ready for work at 7. Get home between 4-5. Get stuff done around the house then from 6:30-9 or 9:30 I work out. But now and then I find a spare hour or two and I plop on my recliner and snooze. So then I feel lazy. So we all define it a different way. As far as personal lazy. I shave my legs more than I shave my face so maybe I am lazy???

[Ressie]

You're right, for the most part I'm a guy. It's not a matter of laziness but how important CDing is to each of us. It's way more important to many members than it is to me. And as Adina implied, many women don't find weight control, makeup, etc. that important either. Size 4 really? I can see 14 as a realistic goal. I'm a little obsessed with keeping my face shaved and eyebrows trimmed, but that's about it.

[noeleena]

Hi,

I looked after my self keeped fit did not over eat was allways doing things plus my normal day work some 46 years,

To day or over the last few months iv had to slow down due to injurys that are slowly comeing right, even so .

im helping at our Museum ,, spending time with Jos, going for outings with our dog Jos walks & i ride my bike some 3 to 4 miles most nights cant do the walking as yet so the bike is better,

i do the washing, sorting ,& putting away , other house hold detail plus redoing the kitchen so yes im very active,

I look after my body keep clean & skin care with pleanty of cream , as im over 65 i have lovely skin & no major health issues,

Is there a difference between men & women in todays socity i see it a lot, id say many men & women dont look after them selfs , for what ever reason , they seem to not care how they look or are bothered about thier own health thier eating & drinking is very much a problem ,

Most of my friends who im involved with in our groups do look after them selfs, so there is a marked difference,

Being a woman im quite fussy with what i eat & drink hence my no health issues, The other detail is of cause this started very young & my Mother taught me as well .so my Mum can take all the credit for how she helped me,

As you have said many men would be big meat eater's im more for fish, yes we did have meat though i was happy with out meat at all Because of health issues Mum had we both stoped eating meat for many years,

If as you said had things been different = a trans person or female you would have done things different ,

For my self i did not need to change i was female so did have what i needed yes still have a maleness about myself just not enough to really matter much not in the over all of who i am.

Im allso looking at as youv said about the meat eating >>> this rib's & for some the steak's <<<, I just could not sit down & enjoy the meat as many men do. iv watched in horror at what they did & have eaten,

Yes iv cooked large meals for our camps & others just could not eat the same.

Heres a ? ,,why do you think men can eat meat in the way we are talking about yet many of us women cant ,,, or maybe dont wont to. Hmmm dont know,

...noeleena...

[Beverley Sims]

Probably to the point of maintaining our outward feminine appearance.
Otherwise no more lazier than any other demographic group.

[docrobbysherry]

I'm a lazy slob, Stephanie. But, for the life of me, I can't figure out what that has to do with bad eating habits?

I stopped working out and changed my eating habits so Sherry can fit into her skimpy outfits and look hot. That requires very little effort. Only a little willpower and planning!

I spend untold hours on Sherry and her outfits. But, most everything in my drab life is neglected!

[Wildaboutheels]

It's not Rocket Science. Any more than WHY women have so many more clothing options.

Females MUST go through all that. At least UNTIL they "catch" a "good" man/greatly increase their odds of same.

Most men are not going to spend all that time and effort on their APPEARANCE because they don't need to. Even those that choose to dress as a female.

And for any doubters? You might wanna put your cell phones down next time you are in the checkout line at any grocery store and take even just a 2 second glance at the magazine covers. They are a very simple testament to the REALITY of the Human condition. And should anyone whine [wrongfully] that Females do most of the shopping? If that is true, why the extremely lopsided ratio of female covers to men's? Are "all those" female shoppers gay maybe and would rather look at women? Or is it just that a man's APPEARANCE is just not that important to most females, in the grand scheme of things?

IF it was, men would have just as many clothing options as women.

Clearly that is not the case. Manufactures are simply not going to to take the time and spend the effort to manufacture products that few men will buy.

[Julie Denier]

How many men wash and moisturize their face every day? Exercise? Pluck stray hairs? Watch their daily caloric intake? Etc.


I am historically lazy, but I do all these things -- in earnest for the past year, particularly the fitness aspects -- and not necessarily because they help my femme look. They enhance my appearance and health as a guy, and I am first and foremost a guy ... and being lazy can be pretty nice ;)

[AmyGaleRT]

I do frequently use my L'Oreal facial cleanser and night cream during and after my bath. And, recently, I made some changes to my diet, including giving up sodas with sugar in them. Earlier this week, when I was visiting the doctor, I was informed that I'd lost ten pounds over about the past month. Also, I've had high blood pressure, and recently it's been dropping back to a more normal range. The Amy influence is definitely enhancing my physical well-being. :)

- Amy

[Stephanie Miller]

Merriam Webster
Lazy : disinclined to activity or exertion

I’m talking about the lack of desire to constantly maintain oneself for the sake of their girl side. I did not bring up lazy in work attitude, not lazy in family life, who cooks, washes clothes etc. Just talking about all the hard work it takes to look your best in girl mode. Including daily maintenance.

1)There are an estimated 71 million adults in the country on a weight loss program at any given time. Of these people on a diet, 38% of them are men.
2)Men make up only 15% of Weight Watchers market
3)I need not bring up who spends more on beauty care items.

Note that I said ”this is an overly exaggerated scenario”.

Of course there are those here on the site that work at looking good and feeling fit. And I’m willing to bet that it’s those that don’t fit MY “stereotypical” CD, yet they feel the need to lash out and be defensive. From my observations, you are NOT the typical. You are more than likely the minority and do not mirror my post. I applaud you, for it is truly hard work and dedication.

Yes Lara, I do exercise. I don’t overeat. I spend hours practicing my martial arts. I own my own construction company, so I know what hard work 24/7 – 365 is. My avatar is "dumb" ol me and has nothing to do with how I see what goes on around me. I don’t stare in a mirror all day. I also have been a leader in Tri Ess, know hundreds of CD’s from all over. And it is by far MY opinion that the vast majority do not put forth the effort to maintain their “girl” side that I see so many true Gg’s do.

Doc, it’s the perfect Sport Illustrated models, and all the other “perfect” (albeit airbrushed) angels that have been the elusive gold ring for so many women. I know men exercise, as do women. But because of their body makeup/muscle mass and fat cell structure, women have to work so much harder than men to achieve the same result. It is typical to just diet alone, or with exercise.

“Probably to the point of maintaining our outward feminine appearance.” Thank you Beverly. You nailed it.

[Rogina B]

I am an age fighter and faithfully take the steps to not turn into an old alligator..The sun is not your friend!

[Maria S]

Female grooming is put into young girls heads from a young age. The need to look good, skin, makeup, body and clothes etc. Boys do not have male grooming so intensly put on them. So by the time a gg is say in her 30s or 40s she has been doing this for 20-30 years and although it still takes her a long while it comes as second nature. For us crossdressers who have been brought up as boys/men we are starting the female grooming procedure later in life. We know only too well the importance of looking good as women especially as we have male characteristics to hide. Some of us start off a little slacker (won't go as far as saying lazy) but as our female persona progresses the slackness reduces as our need to look even more feminine incxreases.

Maria

[Angela Campbell]

I don't know about most...For me since I started dressing fully I have found that all the years I was in denial and lived as I thought I was supposed to, I just didn't care about my body or appearance very much. Yes I kept clean, but really did not care much. I gained a lot of weight up to around 265 (5' 4in) and shaved about 3 or 4 times a week, cut my hair when it looked really bad and wore clothes that were a bit dumpy...t shirts and jeans mostly.

Since embracing my female side all that has changed. I have been losing weight, almost 85 lbs so far, gone from a 46 in waist to a 34 in waist, started shaving at least once a day, sometimes twice when dressed, and have been grooming myself every day. At least twice a week I pluck hairs from somewhere, I epilate once a week, shave my chest and legs etc...every day, and use lotions all the time. Thinking about going to a tanning salon soon too. I have started buying better clothes for both male and female presentations, and overall take a lot more pride in my body.

I think for years I hated my body as a male and now I can see it as female and I really like myself now. So lazy before and not so now.

[Kate Simmons]

The biggest caveat is that being a woman, especially a full time woman, whether we are physically or not, is a lot of work. As guys, as you say, many of us fail to grabbing a pizza, a beer and watching the game. It takes a lot of effort to look nice consistently. I doubt that many of us are really up to that. In all honesty, I feel that what we do in connection with being en femme and looking nice is a small preview of how we would be if we were a woman. I doubt that just getting two X chromosomes makes all that difference.:)

[DanaR]

It could be laziness, but it might be not enough time. Sometimes, my girl time gets trumped by my guy time. There is a lot that I want to do, but there isn't enough time to do it all.

[~Joanne~]

Am I lazy? I was for awhile after my teens years. Not in the sense that I was unclean or not working but I wasn't paying as much attention to my skin and such before embracing this side of me. Now I have a regular routine of shaving and moisturizing and paying closer attention to my appearance in drab as much as enfemme.

[Karren H]

I work hard and play hard.... I'm a driven to work hard and do a good job at everything I do..... lazy isn't in my vocabulary.....

[carhill2mn]

I do not agree with your generalization about CDs. I, for one, do spend a fair amount of time attending to personal grooming etc. I am en femme most days and always prepare myself so that I could go out in public if I needed/wanted to.

Your statements are true for some, I'm sure. However, for many CDs time availablity is an issue and attention to a lot of detail may not be feasible. It may not be that they are "lazy".

[AllyCDTV]

Based on what I see, I don't believe that CD's are any more lazy on the average than GG's. Based on the amount of people that are obese, it seems like few people really take good care of themselves. Yes there may be some GG's that spend more time trying to make themselves look good but when you look around in public, there are as many slobs that are women as there are men. My feeling is that on the average, most CD's spend a lot more time and effort than GG's do to look good simply because we have to in order to even come close to passing.

[Jocelyn Quivers]

It depends on what the situation is. In either mode picking up clothes, organizing wardrobe, facial care, pedicures, manicures etc. I'm very lazy, or unmotivated. Perhaps it's because I waist all of my available energy on my fanatical borderline obsessive/compulsive exercise, diet, and work routine that I have very little if any thing left to give to anything else in my life.

[Ceri Anne]

While I sometimes do the salad for lunch or dinner, I also sometimes go all out......as does my wife. I do try to put on my excersise shorts, support tanktop, forms and wig when I get in from work and try to exersise for 45 min or so. I bat about 400 in that catagory. And spend at least 1 evening a week, just doing major maintenance, and do 15-20 mins daily, moisturizing, and minor upkeep. Getting dressed of course takes about an hour to hour and a half, which I do 2-4 nights a week. So in answer to your question, lazy, I don't think so. Could I do better, of course. But life is about ballance. I don't like GGs who are slaves to fashion and makup, but I do like them to keep themselves up. I've always said, I prefer high maitenance over no maitenance, but the best is moderate maitenance, and thats where I like to be myself.

Now about those ribs........are they Memphis style from Rendevous?

[Stephanie47]

Just go to the food court at any mall and you can easily see who the lazy people are. There are plenty of males and females who fit the bill. It has nothing to do with cross dressing. How many women moisturize their faces and all that, then sit out in the sun turning their skin into leather?

[Gretchen_To_Be]

Stephanie, I am new to this but have noticed it takes work. That time comes at the expense of other things. I have lived exactly as you describe for the past 10 years, which I now regret when trying to get into a size 18 dress. But now I am motivated to drop some weight, both for my health and for one day, a year or two from now, when I can fit in a size 12 and with some padding look like I would like to. At that point, when the illusion from the neck down looks acceptable, I will probably want to explore make up, wigs, etc. But maybe my laziness will prevent that!

[CynthiaD]

A better question might be: Are all lazy people crossdressers?:D