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Anne2345
03-07-2013, 09:46 PM
Some statistics as to the odds and chances of being transsexual have recently been cited on this forum in a current thread.

To these numbers, and any other related statistics, I say so the **** what??!!

Numbers mean nothing and are completely without meaning when you find yourself within whatever group any set of given numbers apply to.

When it’s you, the numbers are just all bullshit. It simply doesn’t matter at all, because it is what it is, whatever the hell it is. And when it is something, and that something applies to you, it’s game over. You become just another number.

So whatever.

None of this is fair anyways, right? So what does it matter?

I could care less about what the numbers say or predict about whether I am TS.

As far as I am concerned, the numbers can go **** themselves, just the same as they have ****ed me!!

****ing numbers . . . . .

melissakozak
03-07-2013, 09:50 PM
There are lies, damn lies and statistics....Mark Twain said it well. The problem with statistics is just as you have stated. You either are something or not. You either get sick or you don't and on and on....it is fairly obvious that being TS is rare, however.

CarolynO
03-07-2013, 09:58 PM
It's just like you always hear that flying is the safest way to travel and the statistics prove it but those great stats mean nothing if your on a plane nosediving to the ground.

Debglam
03-07-2013, 10:03 PM
Anne,

I have a slightly different take on the numbers game.

The most accurate information gathered is that 1 in 500 individuals are MTF who seek GRS surgery. Ok. In my pea brain, you can extrapolate that out to say (guess) that maybe twice that many individuals are somewhere on the transgender spectrum. Include the FTM's also. Lets say 1:250 individuals are transgender. So what?

In my mind, whatever the number is, it simply means that I was dealt a particular hand of cards and it is up to me to play them the best way I can.

Nothing more. Just living my life the best way that I can.

Hopefully we all can do that.

Anne2345
03-07-2013, 10:28 PM
In my mind, whatever the number is, it simply means that I was dealt a particular hand of cards and it is up to me to play them the best way I can.

I do not disagree with you one bit, Deb. And as you know, I strive hard to do just that.

Just chalk my post off as a rant. Nothing more, nothing less.

Besides, it's been awhile since I have let loose some steam like this. And really, this is mild in comparison to some other rants I have posted in the past.

So it's all good.

I'm just tired and frustrated is all.

And thanks for the nice, sweet hug, Tamara!! That helped much!!

Sara Jessica
03-07-2013, 11:03 PM
How about looking at it this way.

When the stats say the chances of getting whatever kind of cancer are 1 in 500,000, then it kind of sucks when you are that one. And the other 499,999 don't matter so much, do they???

melissaK
03-07-2013, 11:48 PM
"Never tell me the odds!" - - Hannah Solo. . .
http://youtu.be/e9TmXMqJdg4

Anne Elizabeth
03-07-2013, 11:52 PM
Really what those stats say is we are more unique and individual that the rest of the people out there.

Kaitlyn Michele
03-07-2013, 11:52 PM
What's the odds? Who knows. That's how I look at it.

I do know this ..very few people is very few people. I know that the number of us is tiny because I came across lots and lots of,people in my transition and none of them knew a ts personally.

I did hear a couple stories of friends who knew friends. But that was it

Nicole Erin
03-08-2013, 01:03 AM
I could care less about what the numbers say or predict about whether I am TS.

As far as I am concerned, the numbers can go **** themselves,

No one knows what the percentage of TS out there are. Not like there is an "allowance" or "quota". I mean say you went to therapy or to get HRT or even SRS, they are not gonna say, "Nope, gotta wait til next year, this year's limit on TS has been reached".

Well there IS a hard fact as far as the numbers go - The numbers 6 and 9 do like to **** each other.

Anne, listen sis, you are gonna be all right :D I think you are well on your way to having the same "Heck with the world" attitude like I do.

Tammy V
03-08-2013, 01:08 AM
I thought it was 1 in 30,000...You are right, who cares?

Rianna Humble
03-08-2013, 02:23 AM
I saw those figures and wrote them off as just what they are - an averaged approximation to a number that no-one has established scientifically.

It's a bit like saying that the chances of someone in my family having a very high IQ is astonishingly low because there are not many people who would qualify for Mensa. True as that may be, it didn't stop my brother becoming a member when he was just about to finish school. If you went to one of his Mensa meetings, you would find a higher than average percentage of those people had a high enough IQ to be in Mensa.

It is the same here. The average guesstimate for the prevalence of transsexuality may well point towards there only being a small number of TS's around, but in a forum where we congregate, that number is going to be much higher than average.

Even when the prevalence of a certain condition has been established by objective scientific study, the figure still remains an average. The medical condition that killed my late mother has a prevalence of 1 in 100,000 and my town's population at that time was just over 98,000 so according to the statistic, no-one else in the town should have contracted that condition which is neither infectious nor contagious. That did not stop a very dear friend from the same town dying of the same condition a couple of years later. Were the statistics BS? No they had been scientifically compiled over a number of decades, but they were an average.

GabbiSophia
03-08-2013, 04:39 AM
Anne ... I was telling my SO this lastnight ... the chances are XX that I am TS .. but eff they means nothing when you are !!! Eff the numbers and eff my GD ... I am pissed at having it and being a number ..!!! I am bitter at both!!

Barbara Ella
03-08-2013, 10:13 AM
The only number that really means much to me is that I know for sure is that my confidence interval is 100% that I am TS, with a correlation coefficient of 1.0, that totally rejects the null hypothesis of not TS, at an alpha level of 0.05.

The only other statistical number of any importance is that I am pretty sure everyone here is one out of a million.

Barbara

Marleena
03-08-2013, 10:28 AM
Anne I've hit 5 jackpots playing slots over the past 6 years.

Here's the odds: Firstly, a slot machine works on pure probability. Every spin has the same chance to win. Let's say we have a slot machine that has a 100,000 in 1 chance to hit the jackpot. That means that every time you spin the reels, you have a 100,000 in 1 chance of hitting the jackpot. So what happens if you spin the reels exactly 100,000 times in a row? Will the jackpot hit once somewhere in those spins? The odds predict this, but it's not necessarily so. It might hit once, or it might not hit at all. Or, it might hit several times. You might hit two in a row! Or it might go a million pulls in a row without ever hitting one jackpot.

I think you hit the jackpot.:)