View Full Version : am i a true crossdresser?
heelsforme67
04-05-2013, 02:41 PM
I love wearing feminine underwear, dresses, lingerie, boots, heels but have no desire to wear wigs and makeup. I paint my toenails, shave my legs etc but am I still to be considered a cd even though I don't go the whole hog? I would appreciate your thoughts :)
kimdl93
04-05-2013, 02:46 PM
Yes. There's no requirement to dress completely en femme nor that you desire more than what you're doing now.
You describe perhaps the majority of CDrs.
Michelle James
04-05-2013, 02:46 PM
I would say yes you are, but more importantly what do you think?
NathalieX66
04-05-2013, 02:51 PM
Unless you do this on the third Wednesdays of each month...but only on a full moon only, you don't count.
No, seriously, I was only kidding, welcome aboard!
Everyone dresses for different reasons, there are no rules. There is no "one model" for a crossdresser, transgender, or even transsexual person. We are all snowflakes, snowflake......every snowflake is different than the other. Do what makes you you, and what makes you feel best.
Wildaboutheels
04-05-2013, 03:14 PM
Actually, a couple of years ago, a Scientist [or maybe a group of them?] with maybe too much time on their hands decided that YES indeed 2 snowflakes can be alike.
It's a safe bet though that no two CDers will ever be exactly alike, if one is to judge by this Forum. Of course you are a CDer. Only YOU can decide if you are a "true" crossdresser. Or a "false" CDer. Or a "mean" CDer. Or a "nice" CDer...
The main thing is not to worry about WHERE you fit in or IF you are "doing things" wrong or assume you are on a journey just because many here are.
Lynn Marie
04-05-2013, 03:20 PM
I, too, only partially dressed for years. I progressed slowly from just lingerie, to heels, to skirts and tops, etc. Why do makeup and hair when I'm not going anywhere and the crossdressing was mostly erotica anyway? During that time, I avoided looking in the mirror. Just a guy in sexy lingerie and heels. Slowly that changed. I wanted to look better. Little by little I worked on the other parts of the feminine look and eventually achieved a look that I really liked. Then a friend came by and she took me out with her to a club in another town. Needless to say, I've never been the same since and my wardrobe and look keeps evolving hopefully for the better!
You may never go any farther than where you are now. Then again, you may someday do the full SRS transition. Nobody knows until it happens.
Karren H
04-05-2013, 03:27 PM
I really don't understand why you should care what label you or others puts on yourself?
ReineD
04-05-2013, 03:39 PM
Yes.
Few people start out with full-on dressing. It usually does begin with just the clothing. In your other post you said you are exploring this with a new partner, so it will be interesting to see where you'll be in a year of two. :)
My SO began with just panties. Now, she goes out fully dressed just like I do but with forms & pads, several times weekly in the next town over. She does NOT identify as a transsexual, she will not take hormones, nor wish to transition, nor wish to live full time femme (at least at this point). She told me some years ago that she always thought the need to present as a woman would disappear once she reached middle age. She was wrong. lol
Kate Simmons
04-05-2013, 04:26 PM
Honestly, when I "de-femme" myself, I do it in stages and check out the various looks. It's still me there. The last thing to come off is usually the make up but it still feels pretty damn good to me.People's definitions vary so really that's why I mostly avoid labels and go with names instead.:)
wilt575
04-05-2013, 04:41 PM
I totally agree with you about starting out. I'm like your SO and thoughts and desires would magically disappear like they appeared, was I ever wrong, awhile back I got rid of all body hair and got breast implants and love new me. More outgoing and friendly,but implants is as far any transioning will go, but living full time is still an possiability.
heelsforme67
04-05-2013, 06:08 PM
I feel fine as I am. I feel feminine and complete
thanks for all your replies, you have reassured me !!
Geena75
04-05-2013, 06:27 PM
A month ago I would have either bristled with indignity or hid away quietly if I was identified as a "Crossdresser." But, then I read the posts on the thread on the first time you put on an artlcle of women's clothing. About half the posts sounded like I could have written them. I say it now -- I am a crossdresser -- I like to wear women's clothing. (I don't plan to wear it on a T-Shirt or anything, but that's my situation/burden).
Tracii G
04-05-2013, 06:47 PM
Labels mean nothing remember that.
Ashanti
04-05-2013, 06:52 PM
Yes, you are. I am also a crossdresser. Hugs!
Tara D. Rose
04-05-2013, 06:59 PM
By what you described, I used to think not. But of late over the past couple of years, I have learned that you can put on panties and that be all that a man does, then he is then a cross dresser. It's like there are no degrees on that. And it doesn't matter when you started, for when the first time you adorned anything most commonly worn by women, then you become a cross dresser. So you ask are you a true cross dresser, yes you are.
Anne2345
04-05-2013, 07:50 PM
Who the hell cares??!! I mean, if you enjoy what you are doing, and you are not hurting anybody, by all means keep doing it. You are you are you are you. Isn't that enough in and of itself??!
Tara D. Rose
04-06-2013, 12:52 AM
I'm with you Anne, who the hell cares?
ReineD
04-06-2013, 01:20 AM
Anne and Tara, I've got to say that when you were new in this forum with only 4 posts, and if you were just starting out like the OP and trying to define who you were and how it fit into your life, and possibly where it was going ....
... how would you have reacted if people here had told you, "Who the hell cares?"
It's just not a very welcoming statement.
So to translate for the OP, I can tell you that they meant there is a very wide spectrum of people here, who all have their own definitions of who they are. For example, people who call themselves crossdressers might either dress just like you, or dress full on as women and go out 3 times per week, or 5 times per week, or be retired and want to live full time as women but without altering their bodies in any way.
Likewise, there are people here who did call themselves crossdressers because they hadn't yet realized they were transsexual.
There are also others here who call themselves crossdressers but who feel internally as if they are outside the gender binary. They feel they are a mixture of both genders.
The "Who the hell cares", really means that it is difficult to get specific answers when it comes to using just one word to describe yourself.
Barbara Maria
04-06-2013, 01:43 AM
That's the beauty of it.You are if you say you are.I used to wonder that too because I'm strictly closet and don't go past my own yard dressed(yet),but since joining the forum I find alot of the girls are in the same boat as me.Personally,I feel naked without my wig and forms,but that's just me.It's different for everyone.Don't worry about it,just enjoy.Welcome to the family.Barbara
mollycd99
04-06-2013, 02:24 AM
Oooh. A t-shirt would be cool. As long as it had a cut tha t emphasized my bust...
You. I like you.
noeleena
04-06-2013, 03:34 AM
Hi,
If you look around you say down the street or shoping well here any ways ( down under ) many of our women dont wear makeup & i know many of them. & some dont have hair because of cemo so wear a hat or scarve .i know a few,
Myself i dont have any hair so wear my scarves or warp around like a turbin, or sunhat or some others i have , as for makeup. if you count lippy & eyebrow liner thats it, & im a very public person so im seen every day. & accepted for who i am.
so you know im just a woman. so when you get known people will accept you for who you are, .
...noeleena...
k lynn
04-06-2013, 04:53 AM
That's the beauty of it.You are if you say you are.I used to wonder that too because I'm strictly closet and don't go past my own yard dressed(yet),but since joining the forum I find alot of the girls are in the same boat as me.Personally,I feel naked without my wig and forms,but that's just me.It's different for everyone.Don't worry about it,just enjoy.Welcome to the family.Barbara
True so trueI am a underdresser have ben since age 7 no forms make up wigs for me my head is shaved yet I have the desire towear panties and a bra everyday and often fantizes about wearing heels but heels or just a dream so to each there own just be you
Dana3
04-06-2013, 05:32 AM
I think you're who and what you need to be at any given particualar time? If that simply means nothing more than painting your little pinky toe on your left foot hot pink? Then that's who and what you are at that particular moment? GG's do this all of the time.
I spoke to a GG who obviously had her nails done, and noticed that one was painted totally different than the other nine? I asked about it, and she simply told me that at the time?
She simply said "Felt" like it.
A few years back? It wasn't un-common to see young teen age girls wearing boys/men's boxers as "outerwear"? Were you to aske them why? They would simply tell you because "I felt like it!"
That is one of the aspects of "feminity" that I've simply not seen here on Crossdressers. com
When one thinks of women, feminine, being feminine, feminity ~ one thinks of nurturing, caring, giving, sharing, etc ~ but a serious major aspect of being feminine is being expressive?
Why does a otherwise "normal" heterosexual male want to dress in women's clothes?
Simply becauce they want to be expressive, experinece feminity and most of all?
Because
They felt like it!
Erica Marie
04-06-2013, 06:06 AM
I guess if you cross the gender lines by wearing female cloths I guess its called crossdressing. If it was up to me there would be no term such as "crossdresser". I am just dressed, whether it be boy jeans and a sweatshirt or a skirt and blouse. They are my cloth and I am dressed. What dont I understand? A female can go to the farm and barn store and buy Carhartt jeans and a flannel shirt and wear them out, is she a crossdresser?
I guess what I am saying is, are any of us true crossdressers? I dont think there is any set level that say "Ok you made it, you are OFFICIALLY a crossdresser". Do what makes you happy and to the level you are comfortable. If it progresses and you want to wear make up and wigs then you will know. Have fun and be yourself.
Maria in heels
04-06-2013, 06:11 AM
I would have to say YES!
Deedee Skyblue
04-06-2013, 06:11 AM
I'm pretty sure that labels don't define you, or me, or anyone. I'm a guy who likes to wear women's clothes some of the time - rarely fully dressed one way or the other these days. I am part of the very large, very diverse set of people whom society categorizes as crossdressers, but nobody is exactly like me, and I am exactly like nobody else.
If I have to describe what I do to another person, I say "I enjoy wearing women's clothes" rather than "I'm a crossdresser" because I want to avoid their labels.
Deedee
BLUE ORCHID
04-06-2013, 06:36 AM
Hi HF, There's only one person that it matters to that's you .
heelsforme67
04-06-2013, 07:07 AM
bottom line is, if it makes you feel good and it certainly makes me feel amazing , who cares. I love buying all those nice things that women like to wear. ive had a shoe fetish for years and to now wear heels and boots is the ultimate indulgence in this fetish.higher and sexier the better!!
Anne2345
04-06-2013, 08:15 AM
Reine, you completely misunderstood my "who the hell cares" response. I was attempting to be cute and funny. Although to be fair, looking at it in the context you placed it in (albeit an unintended context), I can see how you misunderstood my statement. Perhaps my failure is due to not having utilized a smiley emoticon to conclude my post.
Regardless, I was merely attempting to say that if you enjoy being who you are, then keep being you, because that's awesome. And if that is the case, does it really matter what someone else who is not you would label you?
I mean, we are talking about an activity performed for enjoyment, recreation, and self-fulfillment, right? It's not a sickness. It's not a disease. It just is what it is. So have fun with it and enjoy yourself. That's all I was trying to say.
So in conclusion, so this post is not also misunderstood - :)
melissakozak
04-06-2013, 08:48 AM
Yep, you are the real deal....no worries...
Lacyfem
04-06-2013, 08:56 AM
You are without question. Being married I can't fully dress as often as I'd like so I'm often just in a bra and panty and have learned to be patient as my time will come when I can fully dress again with makeup, wig and nails painted. I'm here now just in panties which is the only thing I have on right now that I truely am a crossdresser and have accepted it for years. Have fun enjoy and think about being labeled.
Cheryl T
04-06-2013, 09:43 AM
You certainly qualify for membership...welcome to the club.
Tara D. Rose
04-06-2013, 11:51 AM
Anne and Tara, I've got to say that when you were new in this forum with only 4 posts, and if you were just starting out like the OP and trying to define who you were and how it fit into your life, and possibly where it was going ....
... how would you have reacted if people here had told you, "Who the hell cares?"
It's just not a very welcoming statement.
.
You are absolutely right ReineD, I was totally out of line when I posted the who the hell cares. My words there were a great injustice to this community and was not very becoming of me either and was out of my norm.I was sipping a little late night cocktail and was just feeling down. I am ashamed of my previous post on here. I humbly apologize to all the wonderful members here, and especially to the op. heelsforme67, welcome to the site, it's good to have you here, I personally apologize to you especially. Please forgive me.
Tara
Beverley Sims
04-06-2013, 12:35 PM
I think you are.
You do not have to go all the way, only try to emulate a woman to some degree.
Even men with beards are cross dressers.
wilt575
04-06-2013, 02:27 PM
I guess if you cross the gender lines by wearing female cloths I guess its called crossdressing. If it was up to me there would be no term such as "crossdresser". I am just dressed, whether it be boy jeans and a sweatshirt or a skirt and blouse. They are my cloth and I am dressed. What dont I understand? A female can go to the farm and barn store and buy Carhartt jeans and a flannel shirt and wear them out, is she a crossdresser?
I guess what I am saying is, are any of us true crossdressers? I dont think there is any set level that say "Ok you made it, you are OFFICIALLY a crossdresser". Do what makes you happy and to the level you are comfortable. If it progresses and you want to wear make up and wigs then you will know. Have fun and be yourself.
I am so with you on this on this one no such term as "crossdresser". I say if the clothes fit your phsyique wear them I do, (with the help of38c boob implants) I'm 38-26-39 everything, except implants is natural fem shape from mother nature. Clothes are clothes just do them justice look good
Ellanore G.G.
04-06-2013, 03:23 PM
Hello OP.
well from aGG side, no 2 people are alike.
I hate having to shave my legs lol
I hate getting all dressed up.
I will only wear make up when really the need arises. lol
Im not very girly, and love to dress in old clothes, and just chill.
So under the spectrum
I suppose im not typically femme, but yet im a woman in every sense of whats not the norm.
So you in turn are just you, and thats what really matters.
You can be you no matter what degree you feel good at.
My H dresses to suit his moods, and does not think of himself as a c/d , but rather as Him, if this makes sense.
LilSissyStevie
04-06-2013, 04:13 PM
The nice thing about an "identity" is that it's purely subjective and no one can successfully dispute it. However, they will try. There are plenty of people who "only" wear lingerie and consider themselves crossdressers. And there are those who go the "whole nine yards" but don't. In my case, I don't often wear or care to wear clothing made specifically for women. Most of my stuff is made specifically for "crossdressers" of my type. So, am I really crossdressing when I wear that stuff? I don't know. It makes my brain hurt to even think about it. I never really think of myself as a crossdresser. Crossdressing is just something I do sometimes.
Barbara Ella
04-06-2013, 04:37 PM
I think you have seen the almost universal dislike for labels. But, I have to say there is a universal desire to know if you are welcome in a group, that is to ask, Do I fit and will I be welcomed as I am. I feel that is really your question. Given what it is i do, and no more, will I fit in and be welcomed? Many cannot come out and ask that so we look for the label or box we fit in, in an attempt to anonymously jump in without really being noticed. The question is totally understandable, and in time your view will alter to the approach of asking really whether I have enough in common to participate. I still struggle with that from time to time.
So, as you have seen, even if you just don panties, you have enough in common to participate, and if you are 24/7, the same applies.
All I can say is that you are definitely one of us. Who are we? Just a whole lot of individuals trying to figure out that for ourselves.
Have fun here dear.
Barbara
Jason+
04-06-2013, 04:54 PM
I love wearing feminine underwear, dresses, lingerie, boots, heels but have no desire to wear wigs and makeup. I paint my toenails, shave my legs etc but am I still to be considered a cd even though I don't go the whole hog? I would appreciate your thoughts :)
Heelsforme67,
You sound amazingly like me. CD has been the closest match for me and the folks around here let me stay. :D Levels and labels aside you're in the right place and in good company as well.
tiffanynjcd24
04-06-2013, 05:02 PM
just be happy with your self and dont worry about labels
IngeInCO
04-06-2013, 05:50 PM
Let me check the rule book...oh there isn't one! Be yourself and have fun!
Luna Nyx
04-06-2013, 08:45 PM
Let me check the rule book...oh there isn't one! Be yourself and have fun!
Agreed 100% i think im gonna steal this.
jsunic_1978
04-07-2013, 01:03 AM
Even out in guy mode, i wear womens pants and ugg boots CONSTANTALLY and its the way we carry our selves disent mean if were gay or straight or bi whatever we choose to wear
Lacey New
04-07-2013, 05:05 AM
Hi Heels,
From one of the many who have asked the same question, I'd have to answer with a resounding "yes". You are a crossdresser. I had the same doubts because I have never done the full transformation with wig, shoes, etc even though I have owned and worn dresses and skirts around the house (when wife was not home). And, I underdress as often as I can. Often just in panties, sometimes in a bra, cami and hose. Otherwise, if you were to see me on the street, I would be a rather nondescript middle aged guy. But, like so many of us, yes, I am a crossdresser and it sounds like you are too. So, welcome to our big closet.
johnboy23
04-07-2013, 07:17 AM
I don't wear wigs or make up either. Tried once in my teens and never tried again.
GinaM
04-07-2013, 07:53 AM
Yes, you are a crossdresser. Why don't you want to try a wig or makeup? I use to just wear the clothes and some lipstick. Then, I bought some heels makeup, more makeup, wigs, more wigs, more clothes, more heels, more makeup, more dresses, more- well, you get the point. It's so much better when you REALLY look the part.
darla_g
04-07-2013, 07:59 AM
I would say yes you are, but more importantly what do you think?to me I thought this was the best answer. No one can define you except yourself. This may be something you do all the time or maybe just once a year. You may call it a "hobby" or you might take strong exception to it being referred to as that. Its all up to you.
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