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MandyTS
12-13-2005, 09:36 AM
Good morning girls,

Today I had a very big revelation that is going to change my life, and it is because of counciling that this is happening. It hit me eating dinner last night at a local resturant as Mandy. That night I had been called Sr. about 10 times and not one miss and I still thought I looked quite passable. The theme song from Home Alone was playing, "Man of the House" how approprate. I looked back on the movie and felt like Kevin, trapped in my own world, for once free, doing what I want, going out and shopping (hopefully not stealing though :lol: ) basically discovering who I really am.

I recieved a phonecall from this girl, she is the daughter of a person I used to work with and deep inside I feel some attraction to her, we share so many things alike it is increadable. I then began to really think who I was inside and how I define my gender. I can tell you stories for days (wait for the book) about mixed activities when young. I loved playing house and with dolls with the girls, and yet I loved digging and playing with trucks and army, etc. Through societies training the feminine side was drawn out of me, but remained part of my core values.

I was never a person for the ultra feminine things like pantyhose, bras. i never identified (and still don't) as a crossdresser, although society may think of me that way. On the flip side I don't like the "ultra masculine" things such as tuxs. I am really in the center of the gender spectra when it comes to clothing, and I would just as well like to wear a skirt with a shirt as a pair of slack and a dress shirt. Likewise I see nothing wrong with wearing a skirt witha dress shirt for example.

My brain is wired mostly female but it has male influences. I am very collaborative yet am a natural leader, therefore I generally work better with girls that with guys on most respects. I am very emotional, will cry at a movie and can not hold emotions back. When I try to hold these feels back they gush out at the most unopportune times (like graduation). I am a natural speech writer yet I am not assertive, very passave and non agressive. I am a natural musician, I play several instruments are a deemed the hardest to play in the orchastra, and am playing first chair after 5 - 6 months on the instrument.

I enjoy the feminine things in life, going to a chick flick, getting my nails done, wearing makeup, getting my hair done, waxing eyebrows, clothing shopping, crocheting, sowing, etc. I also enjoy many of the masculine things in life, going to a baseball game, playing softball and baseball with the boys, racing, driving fast, the action movies, sci fi, etc. I also like to cook, clean, be romantic, etc. The big turning point was when my therapist said that there activities are not linked to being male or female, they are part of your personality.

Last week I had my hair done for the first time in a decidily feminine fassion. I said good buy to the old hair and hello to pretty feminine style. The second night I could do nothing with my hair, and I just tried to comb it back the other way (the boy way). It emotionally was devistated, I had lost a new part of my self I had found.

I can not live as a male or a female. I can not switch roles like a spring, back and forth, that hurts too much. The real me is somewhere in the middle, not a boy or not a girl. In some respects I am part Mandy and part Michael, although I would perfer to be Mandy most of the time. I feel just as wrong being Mandy though only as Michael, I loose part of me deep inside when I choose. There are too many comprimises to make either way and I can not make the decision either way. In that respects for me to transistion either way would be the wrong thing to do. Unfortunitly society makes no room for a third gender... oh well.

Basically there is a safezone out there for me to be in. More than likely it is something related to hormonally being a male with a little bit of estrogen mixed in for comfort, apearance wise being something of a "*******" although not of that designation, feminine hair, soft skin, hairless body, etc. Only though therapy can I find that point in my life... we will see where that lies. I am transistioning, but the place that I end up will be somewhere where I am comfortable and happy, not inbetween.

Legal name change to Mandy... maybe... still deciding that one.

Mandy

GypsyKaren
12-13-2005, 10:37 AM
Hi Mandy

That's quite a story, and I know exactly how you feel because i'm kinda in the same place. I've tried my entire life to be a man instead of being me, fought it tooth and nail, but I finally accepted myself for who I am, and now life is good.

I've been in therapy for years now, and it has helped me a lot, it taught me how to grow. I'm going to start seeing a gender specialist soon to see if we can find out more about Karen. I'm happy now because I learned how to love myself as is, I hope you get to that place too. Try not to sweat the "passing" thing, when I go out I don't care if people see me as a woman, I want them to see me as a person, nothing more, nothing less.

GypsyKaren

melissacd
12-13-2005, 10:45 AM
Bingo...that is what I have been saying all along in previous posts! The same realization hit me a while back that this is not about being feminine or masculine, it is about being who you are. That is all. I like many masculine things (although I hate sports) and yet I love many feminine things as well. For me it is much more than wearing a dress, for me it is all expressing all of who I am. It is about self actualization.

Thanks for this post, I think that it speaks to what most of us want. For some it is more on the femme side of the scale, for some it is more on the masculine side of the scale, but for all of us it is somewhere on an infinite continuum of what it means to be a human regardless of your biology.

Human enlightenment is reached when we can all respect and accept everyone else as they are.

Julia Cross
12-13-2005, 10:51 AM
Hi Mandy,

I too know how you you feel. Perhaps not quite as deeply or perhaps I have just finally figured out what works for me.

There may not be a complete happy medium, but you can come close. As a guy, you can be effiminate, you can wear many of the things you prefer. I for one wear blouses and hose to work whenever I feel. Skirts, well that is the compromise, that is for home. I have long, feminine hair. If I stopped picking at my nails long enough, they would be polished as well.

If you are fortunate to have an average height, you really could go out dressed more as you please and attract little attention.

You just need to find a balance, a compromise for different situations. And then try to be content, by happy you can do what you do already. Remember fo many people their lives are for more complictaed due to illnesses, injury, birth defects, race, many things. Yes it is unfair that we cannot express ourselves completely as we choose, but we can come close and with the right attitude, very close.

Hang in there, you are not alone. Many of us feel what you feel.

Julia

MandyTS
12-13-2005, 11:36 AM
Hello all,

We have to work within the ideals of society as many of you have said, and when we find the things we enjoy to do it can take the pressure off of gender identity. We all have things that make us different, whether it is disease, etc. I will probably never know pathalogically why I am this way, it is probably hormone induced at some point in our development.

I once thought life would be perfect if I could have SRS, and continue living how I am now. If I were a foot shorter I know that things would be drastically different but we can dream. Hormonally and genelogically I am neither male or female, a hermathodite. I am at a point in my life where I need to do something about it, but I thought months ago that female would be the way to go. I enjoy being a girl but I would never pass as one, not at 6'6" and an extremely large frame size.

I can not relate to either TV or CD. I can also not emotionally deal with switching back and forth, I need to be one or the other or my favorite something in the middle. I also have a hard time feeling I am TS... really I am off the specta entirely. My best bet is to combine all the good things about being a guy and being a girl into one. For example my hair can be long and touching on feminine, my attire masculine to androgious, my manerisms a mix of male and female.

There is no easy answer to this question. When I try and define myself as a male or a female I lose part of my life. I have always felt the best in two scinerios, when I feel really handsome or really pretty. I enjoy wearing formal attire from both sexes, the stuff in the middle is the harest. For now I davel in the things I enjoy the most, music, cars, relationships and friends. I am bisexual, but I am heterosexual with woman. A realtionship is one of the things I crave the most right now. There is nothing like being in the relationship... and funny thing is I have fellings for a girl right now... and she about myself.

I am neither male or female, I can not have kids, it really does not matter anyway.

Mandy

Katie Ashe
12-13-2005, 11:39 AM
:OMG: :iagree: I though I was reading about me for a short time there. I just want to live in the middle somewhere, comfortably. I am swayed to be totally fem, becuase it is more accepted than a guy in a skirt. I think I'm 50/50 in the gender area. And it sucks sometimes.

Julie
12-13-2005, 11:48 AM
Hi Mandy,

I think this is one of the things non-TGs have a tough time understanding - living in the grey area. We are taught from the earliest age there's male and female and nothing in between. Males especially had better not cross that line into the grey area, or else! It's so primative for us to hold onto this so tightly yet we just can't seem to let go. Those of us who accept we live in the grey area can see the foolishness of male-female only classifications. Those who don't live but accept it seem to have great insight, compassion or whatever it takes to understand this.

One of the things I'm finally beginning to accept is we can't let others decide who we are, how we should dress, how we should act. It takes a lot of courage to be true to yourself. We are told stories of the brave who marched to the tune of a different drummer but when someone starts down that path we see cynicism, prejudice, criticism and even hatred. Maybe it's because they are jealous of the person who exudes enough confidence and personal strength and conviction to do it without external support. I know I admire that in others. But I'll admit that's my #1 problem in being TG.

I applaud your bravery for having dinner as Mandy. If those around you realized the strength it took for you to do that they would applaud you too. That's the stuff leaders are made of. The first time I went to a restaurant as Julie was after a TS support group. There was about ten of us, all but one was TG/TS but only six were dressed. I glanced around the room occasionally to see if we were getting stares and each time I looked I saw we were. We were like a circus side show and I was extremely self conscious. How wonderful it would have been to have walked up to one of the gawkers and introduced myself. Believe me, I thought of doing that. I thought their stares were extremely impolite and insensitive.

But this is our burden. Society isn't going to change so we have to accept that as fact and decide how we are going to handle being different in such an obvious and dramatic way. Everyone is different but very few have differences that are as apparent as ours. We need to just accept ourselves for who we are. And I'm preaching that to myself especially.

melissacd
12-13-2005, 04:54 PM
Julie,

As always a great response. I was surprised to see your comment:

"And I'm preaching that to myself especially"

Since joining this forum I have looked up to you as a great example for the rest of us (intelligent, graceful, willing to explore the world, stylish, sensitive, warm, etc...). It is easy to forget that our heroes also have insecurities and require support as well.

Thanks for being an inspiration to me. I am certain you are an inspiration to others too.

Mel

ginafaye
12-13-2005, 05:19 PM
your answers show what a great insight you have julie.......its seems you easily put into words what we all feel for mandy

Sarah Smile
12-13-2005, 05:59 PM
Thank you so much for your posts, Mandy. Alot of what you said applies to me, too. I don't like being defined (confined) as male but my body betrays me. I look masculine but I don't feel masculine. My gender ID fluctuates a bit from day to day. Strangely, it seems to have to do with my self esteem. On days when it is higher, I feel more feminine. On days when it is lower, I feel gender-neutral.

I admire your strength to go out and present yourself as who you are, no matter what others think.

Katrina
12-13-2005, 06:15 PM
Julie...Since joining this forum I have looked up to you as a great example for the rest of us (intelligent, graceful, willing to explore the world, stylish, sensitive, warm, etc...). It is easy to forget that our heroes also have insecurities and require support as well.

Thanks for being an inspiration to me. I am certain you are an inspiration to others to.

I second that! If it wasn't for some of Julie's stories and other people's stories, I would not have had the courage to come out to my GF, nevermind actually going out enfemme.