do people know we are cross dressers even if they dont know?

[jsunic_1978]

I believe if people that know us from the job for example, As we deafiently do try to keep that personal stuff about to our selves to our selves, Most of us really into cross dressing in guy mode is bare skinned, (shaved) our faces are just so raidented and WE HIDE OUR AGE WELL LOL :) no question right there we use some sort of female products and ESPECIALLY the female co workers talk, associate joke/ laugh with us more naturally.

Overe all, if co workers know it abono, evreyone just preternds not to know, bosend ask, just sais thye evreyday hellos and all regular dcentreatment at the work place. Thew question is, how do I come out to female co workers and WILL IT BE A GOOD IDEA? ALL of my co workers are married/ has signifant others. IM HE ONLY SINGLE will it be such a HUGE surprise if people do know for sure?? I bekieve the more i keep supressed just in general and stay private as I possibily can, IT WILL BE EVEN MORE DIFFICULT JUST TO MAKE NEW FRIENDS and If I were just gay, ID JUST SAY SO. I want people to thing im just gay, (worst case seceraino), verses people thinking I may be a danger because of being SO SECERATIVE. I find the not being accepted part is all just in our minds and If people know, but dont, how do we invite toi ask questions and or even joke about this to break the ice?

THANKS FOR READING :)

[~Joanne~]

. I think you want to know how to come out and there is no clean cut easy answer for that. It depends on too many variables and depends on each girls situation and is never an easy task at all. Would I do it at work? certainly not. If you want to tell a female co-worker then by all means do so but not at work. Do it away from the work place and be prepared for the backlash if you do. I would make absolutely sure this is what you want to do before you do it as there is no coming back once it's done.

[RADER]

The only person who knew was my late loving wife. The Daughter wants to come over and
help me with house cleaning. I Say no thanks. I do not want her to see "My" clothes about.
Rader

[Jamie001]

Why not consider coming-out to your daughter? You might even become closer.

[jsunic_1978]

Thats a great idea JOANNE :) Females are just more drawn to me for some reason (in guy moide at work of course) THEY MUST ALL KNOW ANYHOW. i jus started this job 3 months ago. they all live locally. someone must has seen me or knows of someone that has seen me. NO ONE JUDGES ME AT ALL. I work at a great place, people are all OK. I was asked, why do I shave my arms? I said because IM A CLEAN FREAK! WORKING IN A DIRTY SHOP IS the perfect excuse AND ITS A LOT EAIER TO CLEAN ALL THE dirt off AND IT GETS hOt in the shop. iT FEELS GOOD :) sTILL, NO ONE JUDGERS ME. thats PLUS :)

[Stevie]

I think it is possible the people around us would have an idea if we act feminine around them.

[jsunic_1978]

also, I HAVE THE HOTTS for this woman I work with. she knows it. SHESE SO COOL WITH IT. Of course, she has a man :( We just pass the time by just laughing at eachother, playing jokes, playing games to see who can work faster. THIS IS GOOD FOR ME. Im starting to make friends to in addition to the ones that already do know me that way anjd accept me. I have bought up now n then, so, Kelley, do you like pretty shoes, do you like getting dolled up just for fun? shese a TOM BOY, which thats really awesome to. Little by little We have discussed hair, make up, some GIRLIE THINGS :) again, IM AT WORK, IM BORED :) Im working along side with a cool woman. ITS FUN ;) Im sure she and the rest of the females dont just want to hear, COOL..., LOOK AT THIS NICE SET OF VICE GRIPE, WRENCH I HAVE JUST BOUGHT..., LMAO :)

[Lorileah]

Please note: Ridiculing members/non-members, or the manner in which they express themselves. This includes any complaint about the way females, males, transgendered, or any other cross-section of the membership dress, the way they express themselves (such as spelling and language skills, ...)

[whowhatwhen]

In general people will assume a feminine acting man to be gay, not that there's anything wrong with that.
;)

[BlairP]

I am at the point where I just dont care any more. I paint my toenails hot pink and wear flip flops to the grocery store and I just dont care what people think. My nails are getting long and I buffed them out and put clear on them. It is maddeningly exhilarating trying to type. If my employees see my long perfectly manicured nails and think something of it so what.

[noeleena]

Hi.

Do people know what i am. did people know many years ago.yes they did because they told me 5 years ago they knew me in the 60's. age 22 to 27 what did i show about my self that they picked up on , my way of talking my manerisms just a sence of im different how i did things & just being around kids & those i knew,

I did not hide myself though i was somewhat a closed down person in how i expressed myself. & really i struggled with that,

Some times we need to grow as a person & some were along the line of life, where we can not hide whats really inside of us it gets to over whelming it did for me then i could not contain it any longer,
How do you open up how do you just say this is what i am this is who i am can you accept me as a person who is different , i belive many people just need a bit of time to adjust to , wow you are different yet really you are not because this really is ...you...

Im not going to say do they know, as your ? says , i cant answere that i never went that road, yet i know with in our family it would have been less of a major detail . so had i been a dresser i would have been accepted far more easy.

I cant answer for you & where you are or those you know.
I only know i have been accepted on the grounds of who i am as a person so theres more to it than just that of cause because im accetped as a member of our many groups like to day iv been asked to be a member of our Museum , i will of cause, this is the acceptance im talking about .

Do you trust those around you enough to know you can be accepted just remember i doughted myself & i doughted ...i ...could ... be accepted my only fear,

never happened , so sometimes we need to step out take the flack & roll with it , then hope itll pass & youll find you have friends after the dust blows away,

...noeleena...

[jsunic_1978]

I want people to think im just gay. Gays COOL :) Im not gay. I cant figure why lesbians like manly things and gays like female things LOL abut some do. The generall public just ASSUMES Im learning how to be just me and have fun EVREYONE ON HERE IS SO BEAUTIFUL :) I have yet the nerve to wear flip flops with my painted nails in guy mode, but SOME DAY :)

[Beverley Sims]

Jsunic,
I can see you are learning quickly about presenting yourself and I will be watching for further progress.
Please ask more questions.

[Sabrina133]

people at work know i dress even though i present as a man at work - well mostly ;-).

[sometimes_miss]

also, I HAVE THE HOTTS for this woman I work with. she knows it. SHESE SO COOL WITH IT. Of course, she has a man
Pretty much eliminates you 'getting with her' in any way.


We just pass the time by just laughing at eachother, playing jokes, playing games to see who can work faster. THIS IS GOOD FOR ME. Im starting to make friends to in addition to the ones that already do know me that way anjd accept me. I have bought up now n then, so, Kelley, do you like pretty shoes, do you like getting dolled up just for fun? shese a TOM BOY
Women that have appropriated male behaviors and clothing still usually have reservations about men doing the reverse. Girl tomboys are considered normal; boy 'tomgirls' are considered at the least odd, at the worst, perverted, not to mention automatically assumed to be gay.


IM AT WORK, IM BORED
this has probably launched a whole lot of wishful thinking ideas along these lines!!

Be careful. Being tolerant of girly behavior in men isn't the same thing as liking it. I had to learn that the hard way, I don't wish the same experience for you. Tread carefully.

[Stephanie47]

Unless you're presenting in an feminine manner, I really do not think women are going to identify you as a cross dresser. If you chat in the break room with them, and, seem to know too much about women's clothing styles and makeup, then maybe. I suspect, it may be more relevant by the way you treat women and talk about them. I worked in an office environment for over forty years, and, the one thing that really turned women off of a man was boorish behavior. Think about how you treat the women around you. That may be your answer.

[jsunic_1978]

well NOBODY AT MY JOB IS SINGLE ANYHOW SO ITS JUST ALL FUN N GAMES :) :) I KNOW, ILL NEVER GET ANY SO I DONT AND I DONT EVEN TRY :) I need to get out more as JEFF AND JEN :) ILL LET PEOPLE JUST TINK IM JUST GAY, IF FOUND OUT :) whats preverted abou liking a pair of pumps, just exploreing the female world??? THIS IS WHY TG BEHAVIOR IS STILL TABOO1 NO ONE HAS THE YOU KNOW WHAT TO JUST PUT ON WIG AND JUST GO TO THE GAS SATION FOR A POP OR SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINES! AND JUST MEN IN GENERAL HAS THE STEREOTYPE, STILL TO THIS DAY..., ALL MACHO OR JUST A WASTE IN SOCIETY!

And please excuse me, but I cant just hide anymore behind the mask1 in guy mode, I notice a womans hair, make up clothes, IM THRILLED :) I just ask, so where do you shop/ Who did your hair? I LOVE IT ALL ;) i have all of my pretty shoes and shoes from female friends to REALLY ENJOY :) they serve as great sexy objects to just have fun with and i really LOVE SEXY WOMENS SHOES ;) itll be really nice if I could meet a woman that accepts this but just the shoes really do this :) MMM :)

[Kalista Jameson]

I can relate to some of this. I have both ears pierced, and only shower, cleanse, etc. with feminine products, so I'm sure I smell like cherry blossoms most of the time. I shave my body, arms are obvious because I wear a short sleeved uniform for my job, so I know people, especially the gals are sensing things. However, this is work, so I've never brought anything personal up at work. In conversation, I present completely straight male, other than the paper trail of signs.

Let them wonder all they want. If asked anything like why this or that, I just say, that's personal. Why would you need to know that to do your job?

I'm very ordered about the areas of my life. Co-workers can be great and friendly, but they are nothing more than acquaintances, a word almost lost in today's society. We 'friend' the hell out of everyone on the Internet and sometimes forget that good people in our lives that we care about don't always need 'friend' access to our lives. I have found this philosophy has greatly helped avoid some near disasters over time with co-workers that I have initially thought to be something they were not.

My outlook is keep work work and personal life personal. Otherwise it's a hell of a dice roll that could have many unintended consequences. I have a very fined tuned and honed skill in reading people and discerning their true intents behind a friendly disarming smile. Some of the women I have worked with would be the last people on earth I would open up to about kind of soda I drink, much less the fact that I wear pink panties, though they seem openly sweet and disarming with their questions.

I recognize a fishing trip when I see it. I've frustrated a few people with my subtle deflections and redirections away from what they were looking for. My advice is don't mess with the work environment unless you don't care about being outed. It would not be worth it for some.

Cheers,

Kalista

[jsunic_1978]

Awesome viewies Kalista :) Evrey two person job i have ran so far, was with the same woman We are always paired up. Most of the people ahyat associate with me more are women and I DONT MIND ONE BIT :) SHESE AWESOME :) too Bad shese in a relationship. she just mention they both meat on line. He was down and out SHE HEPLED PICK HIM RIGHT BACK UP :) this gives me some faith there are good people left. she knows I dress up, but I didnt come out and say so directly. I say I lokle pretty things and I like to be dominated. WE JOKE ALL THE TIME :) If however, I see her and hers outside work more, ill open up some. I never wanted to be CLICKY, but it is there, just like evreywhere else LOL put it to you this way, if your on her good side, the rest of the people she associates with are also on yours :)

I do my best to keep work just work and thats it. Im sure some of these people, even the men wouldnt mind knowing me both ways. Evreyone knows im STRAIGHT so I should maybe be careful.