Amusing anecdote

[Cheyenne Skye]

So this morning at work, me a few coworkers were standing around talking. The conversation turned to a fellow coworker who was having problems with his girlfriend. I mentioned how one night after a phone call from his girlfriend, he went in the back to a storage closet and sat down and cried for like a half hour. In reply to this, my one coworker proclaimed "When is the right time for a man to cry? Never. And if he does then he needs to hand in his 'man card'." So I said, "Sorry, I never got one. But if I did, I would have to turn it in." Oddly enough, he stood there quietly after that. And I went in the back to get some supplies because I was about to burst out laughing. If only he knew the truth as to why I said that.:lol2:

[noeleena]

Hi,

So when is a man not a man because he has Emotions he feels pain wether its body wise or of the mind so attitude changes when a male lets out his Emotions of hurt or angish or what ever the detail is about.

What if one is percived as a male yet is not so then that makes me a wimp or worse non acceptance in my eyes, when one gets to know another they are accepted for who they are not what the other person wants them to be ,or how they think they should be,

Im not a male never could be so yes im very Emotional & cry. so maybe this guy may change his mind if he were to meet me in person & find out even though some of us are percived as male many of us are not hard as nails as this guy thinks, can there not be a softness about some men i belive so & know so. & this is from a woman,

...noeleena...

[celeste26]

Until all men can feel safe letting their emotions overwhelm them (when apropos) the whole human race is in danger.

[VAWyman]

Were's a thought, he may have gender issues himself and is hiding behind his "man card."
Been there, done that.

[Michelle.M]

Cheyenne, that's a cute story! Yeah, I had to turn mine in, but they gave me a Victoria's Secret charge card to replace it.

[KellyJameson]

It took me a long time to understand why men think showing emotion is weakness.

Every culture has there own version of the man card related to showing weakness.

[mary something]

excellent point Kelly, and it made me realize I DON'T know why men think showing emotion is weakness. I know how men are supposed to act, I know how they usually do act, the why's of some of it I think are beyond me though.

[Michelle.M]

How did this go from "Hey, funny story!" to a deep discussion about the societal expectations placed on men?

[Rianna Humble]

I'm sorry John, I have to take you up on one point. You are posting in the Transsexual Forum and talk about men becoming women. Where are the men?

I was being interviewed by a tabloid pseud-news paper who asked me about whether I was concerned about joining an all-women short-list for the chance to represent people in Parliament whilst I am a man.

To you, I will say the same as I said to the reporter "I am not a man, I am a woman".

I don't see men becoming women, in this forum, I do see women who have a birth-defect finally giving up the pretence of being male.

[mary something]

Exactly Rianna! And John, I second her point with ther fact that have you ever considered why the AMA endorsed medical care for a transsexual involves reshaping of the genitals and hormonal replacement? Because transsexuals are people who are born with a brain sex that is opposite their anatomical sex.

[Angela Campbell]

I don't see men becoming women, in this forum, I do see women who have a birth-defect finally giving up the pretence of being male.

Thank you this is something even some of us cannot understand.

[Rianna Humble]

I understand that you do not consider yourself Transsexual, John, but whilst there may be some, like you, who are content to live as genderqueer, this is not the main object of this forum. As it says in the heading of this forum
This forum is for those with the external genitalia and secondary sexual characteristics of one sex, but whose personal identification and psychosocial configuration is that of the opposite sex.

I think that you were genuinely trying to be helpful in rewriting your post, but unfortunately, it seems now to have become redolent of one of the standard themes in the MtF crossdressers forum "women have successfully fought to be allowed different styles of clothing, why can't we men have it handed to us on a platter?"

Somewhere along the way, we seem to have lost sight of the original point under discussion :sad: