What's your take on dressing with other CD's

[Jaylyn]

I have been in a cross dresser yahoo group for sometime before I found this one. While in the other group I found that many on there found it thrilling to meet in a motel room or private house and dress together, they say they enjoy painting each others nails toes and visiting as they help dress each other. I have been invited several times but have never attended. The reason is this bunch then dances with each other and feels around and some even have various types of sex. Here's my question if the sex was not on the menu how many would find it exciting to meet like that and help each other dress to the max. To act like ladies in a dressing room fix each others makeup or helping to snap each others bras and garters and etc. and then maybe having a convention or meeting. Or even maybe to just go clubbing? I think I would be very excited by dressing with other CD's. just learning new makeup tricks would be exciting. I think we would feed off each other to be more excited about the dressing. What's your feelings on this just curious?

[Marie-Elise]

I don't think I could do this. It would be the ultimate frustration in a way. I don't have any attraction to men and feeling pretty always makes me frisky. This is probably why I have been reluctant to go to any crossdresser support groups in person.

Having said that, I am going to try to meet with another crossdresser for drinks or coffee some time soon. Never did this before but I think it might be more comfortable for me.

[Karren H]

I've dressed with a couple local girls at their houses and it was fun... especially when they have wedding dresses and gowns and we all wear the same size.... they all knew sex wasn't an option... I have this thing about being faithful no mater what clothes I wear..... but I wouldn't hesitate to do it again.... especially is wedding dresses were involved... lol But beware of wolfs in sheep's clothings.... get to know them before hand because sometime they have hidden addendas and you might get caught by surprise....

[Beverley Sims]

It is fun to dress with others that you know.
You get to try on all sorts of clothing.
I did this stunt mainly with gg's who were my housemates.
We quite often did this especially before a big event of some kind.
We would swap clothes around to see that we did not out do each other, too much.

[Gypsy Sam]

Think about this subject, then because I'm undecided I do nothing at all. Have had a few requests to meet, but availability always been a problem. Always works better when someone is as interested in you as you are in them. With little wardrobe and no make up, a mentor would be beneficial to me as long as being the teacher is rewarding for them. Most respondents here prefer some one at the same level they are. Just my perception.

[monalisa]

I would think it would be fun and would enjoy dressing with others. It would beat just dressing by yourself and no one there to appreciate your outfit and compliment you. Would be fun to have help with makeup and having toenails painted. You could wear everything from evening gowns to baby doll nightees.

[Crissy Kay]

I have a cd friend I dress up with maybe twice a month. It is fun, and no, nothing happens, we just take a few pics, and have a drink or two!!

[Frédérique]

To act like ladies in a dressing room fix each others makeup or helping to snap each others bras and garters and etc. and then maybe having a convention or meeting. Or even maybe to just go clubbing? I think I would be very excited by dressing with other CD's. just learning new makeup tricks would be exciting. I think we would feed off each other to be more excited about the dressing. What's your feelings on this just curious?

This may very well “cure” me of crossdressing for good. Dressing room? No can do. Clubbing? No can do. Makeup tricks? I think I’ll just sit alone in the corner, thank you, or, better yet, I’ll just leave. I’ll hurriedly announce “Sorry, girls, I have to go home and re-think this crossdressing thing. I’m not feeling very well at all…” To me, MtF crossdressing is a one-man show, and I’m the entire (appreciative) audience…

Once I DID see pictures of a gaggle of CD’s at a restaurant somewhere in the UK, and it looked like fun, but, the more I think about it, the more I realize this just isn’t for ME…
:sigh:

[Amy Fakley]

Isometime they have hidden addendas and you might get caught by surprise....

ROFL ... "hidden addendas" ... if ya know what I mean ... nudge nudge ... wink wink

on topic though, I'm not sure I'm social enough to want to get dressed with others. Once I am dressed, I wouldn't mind going out somewhere, but ... dressing to me (in either mode) has always felt like a personal space thing ... sort of like using the restroom. I always go for the stall, because it's really not a thing that should even remotely involve others. But that's just my personality I guess.

[Sabrina133]

As I've related on this forum a couple of times -- i was invited to dress with a drag queen i'd met while shopping. The first time i went to her house, I was as nervous as a long tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs. Before i finally agreed to it, i made sure we agree on the ground rules. It turned out to be the most rewarding experience and the beginning of the trip to self discovery. She taught me all sorts of things i needed to know to dress convincingly and pass. She was amazing.

[Lorileah]

dress together, they say they enjoy painting each others nails toes and visiting as they help dress each other. Painting nails and dressing each other? I am not a fashion consultant and I am surely not a dresser. I find this just a little creepy
feels around and some even have various types of sex. Which would be....gay sex right? And yet so many here say they are not gay.
Here's my question if the sex was not on the menu how many would find it exciting to meet like that and help each other dress to the max. Uh..no. I will helop you here with suggestions, I will help you with make up questions (maybe even help touch it up)...but here is the thing. When there are dress up parties...someone usually ends up going too far. I like you all, I may even date a few but dressing...no. Especially since many here don't consider themselves "ladies" but make a point that they are guys in dresses. Too many locker room shennaigans for me


I don't think I could do this. It would be the ultimate frustration in a way. I don't have any attraction to men and feeling pretty always makes me frisky. This is probably why I have been reluctant to go to any crossdresser support groups in person.


You do realize that support groups are not play dates right? They are serious. You don't even have to dress


Addendum: I don't get why you would want to "dress" with someone you don't know but you won't go out dressed? :idontknow:

[Jaylyn]

Most respondents here prefer some one at the same level they are. Just my perception.

Mystic and Ashlyn have met and seemed to have had a blast from on here. They are so beautiful I would feel outa place as they are way younger than I but bet i could still hang with them on partying. Don't take that as a challenge Mystic or Ashlyn....We talked about getting the Texas gals on here together for a meet and greet then maybe renting a big room in a motel for those who wanted to do just this. I suggested inviting the SO's so it would be open and exciting and maybe help others whose SO does not approve by letting those of us who have approving wives help us CD's learn by visiting with the GG's and also those SO's who have questions. I could only do this if we were guaranteed security of every one being secretive about identities and such. I do find the thought as I have said of dressing together exciting and yes have become very aroused by it, but with my darling along I know I would be taken care of after we gals have had had our dress up excitement. If it was a convention type situation every one would have their own rooms and have a meeting room where some guest could speak, such as a drag queen, a very experienced CD, and maybe even a comedian. Could be a two or three day event. At something like that we would find a dressing buddy on our own level I bet.

[danielletorresani]

I would love to do that! And if they were hot-passable CD's, I wouldn't mind the possibility of a bit more happening, if you know what I mean...

[suchacutie]

Well, I love dressing with this other person. She's fantastic! She critiques my makeup and clothes, and is always honest in her appraisal. We always have a fun time, even if it's just sitting around crochetting and knitting.

You've probably guessed that this wonderful person is my wife! Works well!

[Kathy Smith]

I've been for nights out several times, sharing a hotel room with another crossdresser each time. In each case we've been to pubs and clubs where there are plenty of others of our "calling". :) It can be great fun - but it's unnatural. There's no need to attempt to "pass" so some don't even try, which can be disconcerting to say the least!

[Angela Campbell]

I don't think I need any help getting dressed thank you very much.

[famousunknown]

While in the other group I found that many on there found it thrilling to meet in a motel room or private house and dress together, they say they enjoy painting each others nails toes and visiting as they help dress each other.
Creepy, weird, etc. Absolutely no way. If you're not gay, why would you consider this?


[COLOR="black"]This may very well “cure” me of crossdressing for good. Dressing room? No can do. Clubbing? No can do. Makeup tricks? I think I’ll just sit alone in the corner, thank you, or, better yet, I’ll just leave. I’ll hurriedly announce “Sorry, girls, I have to go home and re-think this crossdressing thing. I’m not feeling very well at all…” To me, MtF crossdressing is a one-man show, and I’m the entire (appreciative) audience…

I agree 100%.

[stephNE]

I would really like to meet another CDer in person, and go out as friends and maybe have lunch, or coffee or something. If I was to ever do this, sex would not be an option. Period. But that possibility of the other wanting some type of sex keeps me from doing this. And I have no desire to help someone else get dressed, or paint toenails, or whatever. But to be able to talk with someone face to face would probably be wonderful.

PS - I just got through painting my own toenails!

[Kitty D]

I would love to dress with other CD's. Need to find some here in Houston.

[Jaylyn]

Ok wait just a dog gone minute if you will reread my original statement I said if sex was not on the menu then would you enjoy dressing. Some have stated they would enjoy visiting with another CD. What's gay about meeting and visiting? I really don't want sex with another guy. I did say I get aroused but my wife takes care of that for me....

[Aly Cat]

I would not at all be for Getting dressed with anyone else. I wouldnt mind BEING dressed with others though. I think the bigger issue id run into is finding others who would be comfortable being around me while dressed. Ive never been all done up to the 9s so i dont really know how that is, but i do basically go as a guy wearing what i like to wear. I guess thats uncommon? Anyways, i have no desire to get dressed with others on a clothing level. If i ever get the chance to go all out and need help with hair/makeup id prefer a gg over another guy. I guess its just a comfort level thing. Im more comfy around ggs.

[Angela Campbell]

I enjoy going out with other "girls" but that is dinner or shopping. Getting undressed with someone else isn't something I am at all interested in. I couldn't stand someone seeing my ugly male features and I sure do not want to see them undressed or in any kind of in between state of dress.

[Kitty D]

Jaylyn, what part of TX are you at?

[Lacy PJs]

I'm thinking I would tend to agree with those who think it is a little (or more) strange & weird. But, ironically, I do think I'd like to meet another CDer as guy to guy. It would probably take a while to get comfortable but at some point, I think it would be kind of interesting to talk about clothes, wigs, shoes, etc. But, no, I'm not anyway's close to having a dressing session with another CDer... even if it was 1000% platonic.

Lacy PJs

[Lorileah]

Ok wait just a dog gone minute if you will reread my original statement I said if sex was not on the menu then would you enjoy dressing. Some have stated they would enjoy visiting with another CD. What's gay about meeting and visiting? I really don't want sex with another guy. I did say I get aroused but my wife takes care of that for me....

I did read your post and still say playing with another man's feet is really...uh...gay. Meeting? I meet my friends weekly and yet none of them has ever asked me to help them put on pantyhose. Maybe I have weird friends? Why on earth would you want to play dress up in some secluded place? It still seems creepy to me...but hen I don't dress for thrills. Dressing up and going to meetings or bars or restaurants or shopping is totally different (IMO) than dressing with one or more people where you actually change clothes or help each other into clothing...

I do say though that "we" are basically teenage girls so maybe that is why people want to do this. I don't think too many adult women have dress up parties (they will go to spas though and have someone do it for them)

[Bethany_Anne_Fae]

I don't like getting dressed with anyone in the room no matter what it is I'm wearing. Guess I'm just too self-conscious about it. Going out in the finished product however, yeah, I'm all in hanging out with others :)

[Emjay]

I enjoy going out with other "girls" but that is dinner or shopping. Getting undressed with someone else isn't something I am at all interested in. I couldn't stand someone seeing my ugly male features and I sure do not want to see them undressed or in any kind of in between state of dress.

I think this is fairly close to my feelings on the matter too. I don't even like seeing myself in the mirror in that "in-between" state, I especially hate it when I'm going from Autumn to "everyday me"... I'm not super fond of him to begin with and I really wouldn't want anyone else seeing me that way either.

I love going out and being social with other girls though, I wouldn't even mind meeting at someone's place for a get together.... once I'm beyond the "in-between" stage.

[Lynn Marie]

Having CD girlfriends is great fun. We go out to dinner together, we go clubbing together, we party together, and we visit together. It's no big deal after you get to know your CD neighbors. We're all friends with no hidden agendas. We've been getting together on Fridays for many years now.

[Eryn]

Let me start by saying that, for me, sex is not on the table. My dressing has nothing to do with sex.

I don't find the idea of two CDers primping each other to be odd any more than the idea of two GGs primping each other. I perceive each person to be the gender they present and interact with them according to the gender I am presenting.

When I was first contemplating going out I would have loved to have had a "big sister" (GG or CD) to show me a few feminine ropes. I pretty much taught myself how to do everything and it was a steep learning curve. It was the prospect that a primping session might lead to an expectation of something more that kept me from seeking that path.

I do enjoy having CD and CDSO girlfriends and going out with them. They understand me in ways that no non-CD can and we have great fun together!

[Jenni Yumiko]

No interest whatsoever. I have a handful of gg's that I can hang out with if I want to "hang out with the girls"
I will say in my younger years I did have an experience with another CD, under the guise of going and hanging out, but that wasn't really her real agenda.

[AllieSF]

Creep, gay, weird??? Come on people get a life. We are adults who should have some street smarts by now even if we live in the suburbs. It only gets weird if one let's it get to that point. There is always "No Thank you" and the door. Some of us are fortunate enough to be able to dress and have the courage and confidence to get out of the house occasionally or whenever we want. We happen to be in the small minority. It may seem weird to some of you who do get out just because you may not understand why they just don't go out. In my opinion, it takes a lot more courage and confidence to go out in public than to meet one or maybe 2-3 other CD's in a private house or motel room. Shit can happen to us anywhere, dressed with others, alone or dressed as our natural gender.

What about those good CD folks that just need a safe place to go? Going to someone's house or to a motel room is a sane and safe way to do that, if you take precautions. The first one is to know face to face who you will eventually dress with. Talk with them and let your adult senses and experiences tell you if this may be a good person to share some time with or not. Maybe the first time it is to dress in one outfit to see how everything goes and then maybe have a drink, Coke, juice or coffee are just fine, and talk about whatever. One thing I bet is that after a few times of this the conversation will be less about crossdressing and more about each other's lives and problems. I also think that though you may get some assistance with makeup, nails and dressing at first but that too will also fade away.

I say try it. I did the first time I fully dressed. I took a chance and it worked out wonderfully for me, and I was careful too. If more people get out, it will be better for them and everyone else. These are those baby steps for getting out of the house and into the real world. This happens to be a safe and good way to build up confidence, abilities and courage.

[famousunknown]

I don't find the idea of two CDers primping each other to be odd any more than the idea of two GGs primping each other.

Sorry, but two CD's pimping each other just sounds bizarre to me.

[NicoleScott]

I agree with Allie: get a life, folks. I think it's a great idea for like-minded CDers to have a small social gathering like this. Nobody is forced to dress in another's presence, and if two people agree on assisting each other, fine with me. I would prefer to dress alone, but I would welcome a little help with the corset - I don't have enough arms and they don't bend right.
The idea for inviting SO's is great, Jaylyn.
If you're passable and comfortable out and about then maybe this isn't for you, but darn it, do you have to so judgemental?
I guess I need a new dictionary. Mine doesn't define "gay" the way Lorileah's does.

[Samantha_Smile]

The only conceivable way I would meet another CD and dress up would be if sex was a non starter of an idea.
Dress up, go over the top trannified? Sure fine, why not right?
Go out clubbing (to a CD friendly establishment)? EVEN BETTER!

But keep that thing in you knickers thanks ;)

[Alice Torn]

I am very independent, and don't want anyone to help me with any of my makeup or dressing! I fix Alice up my way! But, am willing to meet a cd, with no sex involved, not letting anyone change me.

[Sister Rachel]

For me, the height of crossdressing pleasure is to be with my wife or a close female friend and just relax and talk and be. There are trannies who like to form a group and go out on the town in makeup and heels, but I'm not one of them. To each his/her own, I suppose .. x

[Diane Smith]

If I want my hair or nails done well, I make an appointment at the salon. If I need makeup help, the MAC or Ulta stores are happy for my business, and have real professionals to do it and offer advice. I've gotten pretty good at fastening my corset and things with weirdly placed hooks and zippers over the years, although having an assistant would sometimes make things go faster. I don't really want anybody else to see me in my pre-transformed maleness. My sexual interests run exclusively to natal females. So the idea of dressing with others -- as opposed to being dressed around others, which I do all the time -- just doesn't appeal to me at all.

(Don't get the wrong impression -- I'm not antisocial or averse to helping a sister zip up her dress from time to time -- I just don't like displaying the raw clay before it is sculpted into something more attractive.)

- Diane

[docrobbysherry]

I've dressed in the same apt or hotel room with other CDs. In the bathroom, in private!

I have no interest in someone seeing my junk or how I put on my female figure. Nor have I any interest in their's!:doh:

I've also had another CD do my makeup. Because I SUCK at make up!:sad: There was nothing erotic about that experience for either of us.

Like Karren suggested. A group of girls with their foundations already on trying on dresses could be fun! :heehee:

But, stay away from my hands and feet and I'll do likewise with u!:straightface:

[Tara D. Rose]

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,,,,,,,,,,,,and then I heard the sound of my alarm clock go off, and I shut it down and jumped out of bed and into the the shower and shot off to work and had to be there by 6:00am. On my way to work, I realized , that all of this was only just a dream ,a dream I could not help having. And then life rolled along. I then got off of work that very day and emailed my sweet loving sisters, and I suggested, "Hey, my fellow cross dressing friends" ,,"can I meet you all down town at Starbucks for some coffee out on the public patio at 1:15pm?

[Adrienna]

Hmmm...I believe that one should follow their instincts, priorities and guidelines, make them known and be an adult about it. Put the cards on the table and be honest. For me, I have dressed with another and his wife was present who helped with make up and such. Also we were with a transgendered individual and another Cd'er. We all went out and had a very good time. Everything was straight up and we all knew our places. Each individual must decide for themselves what is right for them. Sex or no sex, Cd'ing is not about that from my perspective it's about self discovery and enjoying life as you are. Just be smart and careful!

[Angie G]

I had coffee with one of the girls from this fourm. We did dress just had a nice talk. If I knew the girls I'd do it but dressing only.:hugs:
Angie

[Kate Simmons]

Not my personal "cup of tea" Hon. I'm my own person whether I'm in guy or girl mode and no one else but me does my makeup or takes care of my wardrobe. As far as getting together as a group to do a "touchy-feely" sex thing, I think it's extremely weird to say the least. If I like someone I have no problem letting my feelings known to them but that too is a personal thing between the two of us. It sounds to me like this group thing is mostly an excuse to do stuff some would not normally do. Just my take on it.:)

[Rogina B]

I have read no mention of what goes on at "changing rooms" dedicated to the CD world. Because I am out to most,I haven't had reason to use any of these places as I arrive dressed. However,I may be there to meet someone before going out to a meeting,etc..Some changing spaces are vanilla,and others not so much so. But,it all goes the same and I continue to say that most T girls play well together[I mean get along! lol]. Sam the plumber arrives in his coveralls and leaves as Samantha[very happy] and Don the well dressed lawyer transforms into Dianne[whose hem length pushes the line lol] and Dianne is happy with her look. And,it really isn't much different than what goes on in an athletic club locker room...just people changing their packaging to one that suits them better. Sure some people ask for help with things,and some of us help them without reading anything into it. My experiences anyway..

[famousunknown]

Tara D. Rose, that story was just strange and somewhat creepy...

[Taylor Ray]

Creep, gay, weird??? Come on people get a life.

I agree! Some of these threads seem to have judgement in them and I am often astounded. My view is that no one is better than anyone else.

If someone enjoys non-sexual dress up parties than I say 'Awesome!'

If someone enjoys sexual dress up parties than I say 'Awesome!'

I happen to prefer the latter.

[Lucy_Bella]

To me Cding is a personal private event..I will go out dressed but even doing that is very rare and it depends on the company..I see nothing wrong with dressing with other Cders it's just not for me..

[Tracii G]

Don't think I wouldn't be interested in doing something like that.
I prefer to dress myself and don't want to help pull up another CD's hose that seems creepy.
If that seems cool to you go ahead.Don't bend over without looking behind you LOL.J/K

[carhill2mn]

I prefer to do my makeup, get dressed etc. by myself. I do enjoy visiting with some CDs; it depends upon the topics of conversation.

[Eryn]

I don't find the idea of two CDers primping each other to be odd any more than the idea of two GGs primping each other.


Sorry, but two CD's pimping each other just sounds bizarre to me.

Umm, read more carefully. That's "primping," not "pimping" and I didn't make a typo in my post.

[SometimesDiana]

Normally, my gf and I get dressed together. However, there are a couple situations where we have additional company. It happens often enough, that we installed three makeup stations.

Sometimes, we host dinner parties for local girls, and their spouses. Other times, we go out dancing with friends. It isn't unusual for a couple people to show up early, to eat pizza and get ready at our place.

I can't remember a time that we physically helped each other, but we do trade a lot of tips. The big difference from dressing alone... sitting in front of a mirror is more enjoyable when you have someone to talk with.

[noeleena]

Hi,

A little different for myself.

I went over to Austraila for a ball some 160 people most were dresser's a few trans both male & female a few women natal born & a few men natal born. plus a few other's , not many if any like myself, any way we stayed at the Mercure Hotel for 3 day/ nights. in Sydney .

a few i knew i stayed with one dresser who i knew, so was okay . now one or two i helped with clothes, they were men of cause with in our group of 15 so they could trust me plus did some Photography as well , now i have been to other venues with over 80 people similer to this two times, & when any one needs help ill do it,

Now another group im with we did a fashon show most of us are women with a few men & children some 130 now we just help each other we are just to busy getting ready. & just get on with what we are doing.

Now id have & so would my women friends if men were not part of our group just hanging around, while being undressed & dressing we do look after our own so its well.... we are women i dont expect men to be around us. or do i make myself open to the stares of other men im not like that & quite frankly i get embarrised around men to start with. i am a woman when all said and done so yes we do like our own place.

Would i be embarrised around men changeing & so on. id need to be asked to help. my close friends its not the issue,i have done work with St Johns as a medic so im not bothered from that side of it, & doing washing & dressing's , just not beyound that .

...noeleena...

[Jocelyn Quivers]

I would have no problem with getting together with other CD's but in normal activities while dressed. No dressing other people, applying make up, etc. Basically the same common sense rules that would apply whenever I have a get together while in male mode. When having a Playstation/Xbox get together, cook out, wrestling PPV, action/kung fu, toilet humor movie night etc. There is no touching or any anything remotely sexual with any of my friends so the same common sense rules would apply while being dressed. While some the activities would be the same, and maybe include tea, cheese, or wine tastings the only CDing element that would change everything would be the usual discussion about clothes, make up, wigs, family/job concerns, and debates over why pantyhose rule, and stockings are complete garbage.:devil:

[Dianne S]

Socializing with other CDs is fine; I used to go to a local CD group's monthly socials and they were sometimes quite fun.

But dressing with others? That seems a bit creepy...

[Kristy 56]

Dressing with another CD ? No way ! Now, dressing and primping with a GG is another story.

[Marie-Elise]

Dressing with another CD ? No way ! Now, dressing and primping with a GG is another story.

Basically says it all for me.

[~Joanne~]

I agree with most of the girls here. There is no way I would ever do a dressing party or any other event where we dress each other. That's way too creepy. I can dress myself and paint my own toes (though they take hours lol). I wouldn't mind makeup help or touch ups though since I am not great at makeup. especially if they are teaching me new things and techniques but as far as dressing. never. Femme or drab, that is my personal space.

I am not against going out in a group though or a few girls, especially if they are passable, but I could never do such with a girl who I feel doesn't take this seriously or is a man in a dress. If I am out, I want to pass and dragging someone along who isn't passable isn't in the cards. I know it sounds harsh, hell I may be the one that brings the adventure down look wise, but it is what it is.

[MssHyde]

having a kindred spirit, to buddy around with would be wonderful, but I'd be a lesbian, I have no desire to have sexual relationships with a transgender it would have to be a GG for me.

sorry if this offends but its the way I feel, sure I get caught up and calling like minded people girls. I like to hear it myself, but it really isn't so.

[mona lisa]

As long as there was nothing sexual going on, I do not see how this is any different than a bunch of guys dressing in a locker room -except with female clothing.

[NathalieX66]

If dressing with cd's is your thing, then that's your thing. then U be U. I approve :thumbsup:

I think the only thing that has happened to me , since I have met so many of you on this forum, is that a *small* few of you helped me zip up the back of my dress when I couldn't reach the zipper,when we were at whatever place we were at. ....so I'll leave it a that. I just simply love being a girl , don't know why.....just is.

[NicoleScott]

I agree with most of the girls here. There is no way I would ever do a dressing party or any other event where we dress each other. That's way too creepy. I can dress myself and paint my own toes (though they take hours lol). I wouldn't mind makeup help or touch ups though since I am not great at makeup. especially if they are teaching me new things and techniques but as far as dressing. never. Femme or drab, that is my personal space..

Everyone is entitled to their own threshhold of creepiness. Nobody should be asked to participate in any way in anything that makes them uncomfortable.


I am not against going out in a group though or a few girls, especially if they are passable, but I could never do such with a girl who I feel doesn't take this seriously or is a man in a dress. If I am out, I want to pass and dragging someone along who isn't passable isn't in the cards. I know it sounds harsh, hell I may be the one that brings the adventure down look wise, but it is what it is.

Perhaps the point of such a small social gathering is that it would accommodate non-passable CDers who want a little en femme companionship. You know, some of us have interests other than dressing to blend. A private gathering would allow those CDers to wear (and enjoy what others wear) things like maid's outfits, sissy dresses, Lolita outfits, or wear heavy makeup, killer high heels, miniskirts, fishnets, schoolgirl uniforms, or whatever they want to wear that might not go over so well in public. Heck, if you and all your CDer friends can pass easily, why would you choose to stay in? A private meeting is right for some but not for others.

It seems that a lot of responders missed Jaylyn's precondition of "no sex".