Liking boys as a girl

[aussie cd]

no interest when in drab but when dressed its only about the men, now just gotta snag one lol
was on webcam yesterday dressed and met this incredibly awesome older guy who complimented me no end, this girl just melted , just shame he's in florida and i'm in Australia :(

[Macy4KH]

i dont change preferences i like to be a lesbian sometimes and then other times i like guys

[Connief]

I have my moments, yes. :)

[DanielleT]

When I am woman mode, I am all woman, guys are really fun! Not for everyone, but I sure had ( am having) a good time.

[jenn]

I find myself checking men out when I am dressed. I have never been with a man but have fantasized plenty about taking care of a man in many ways.

[laura.lapinski]

I think it's quite common to think about boys when you are creating and temporarily (or permanently) living your inner female in an outward fashion. I have no attraction to men at all. I am attracted to the female form, and that includes hot looking CDers. I have never done anything sexually with a CD, but I wonder if I wouldn't jump at the chance if all the circumstances were right?

I think I am what they call an autogynaphillic. Some people don't believe in the concept, but I do.

[Lilli]

I think it is an erotic thing: When Lilli, I would love to get some physical contact to some male parts - I think, not having tried more than a kiss yet.

And I don't find that so terrible. I can love women and see the sexually attractive side of a man and imagine myself doing things to them. I don't know why that would be bad. It is all erotical.

[Desirae]

I'm not out, but I do find myself fantasizing about being with a guy when I'm dressed. When I'm not dressed, nope. But he has to be a HOT guy! Like Grigor Dimitrov. If you don't know who that is, Google him. He's a professional tennis player from Bulgaria and he's Maria Sharapova's boyfriend. I've never been with a guy or had any kind of gay relationship, but.... I'm attracted to CD sisters,too, whether in drab or enfemme.

[JamieQ]

I think liking boys only in girl mode is just a bit of fantasy...which is most likely ok for most. On the other hand, if its a true feeling then you would like boys in either mode. Alot of it really depends on liking the individual person you feel attracted to...

[heathertv]

i prefer girls normally, but lately when dressed up i dream about men, specially older men, it is strange, because i have never been with any man at all

[Trishpdxcd2]

When I am woman mode, I am all woman, guys are really fun! Not for everyone, but I sure had ( am having) a good time.

I understand this and have felt the same way. Regardless of boy or gurl mode I am very attracted to other gurls.

[Snowbunnyyy]

once i am dressed i definitely find myself attracted to men in a different way than when i am not dressed

[KayleeTaylor]

No matter how I present myself, my attractions towards men or women do not change. However, I have had more boyfriends than girlfriends :heehee:

[Tallulah Rose]

No, it doesn't change for me. I'm just really into beautiful women and the glamour of it all.

[ziggie]

As I've gotten older I find that I'm more interested in people as people rather than as males or females. Makes no difference what mode I'm in.

[PaulaQ]

Well, my vote probably doesn't count - but I was honestly never interested in boys until about 3 - 3.5 months into HRT. But when it changed, oh my goodness! Dressing didn't really make a difference, other than I am dressed all the time now, and have been for 4 months.

[SometimesDiana]

This thread (all 11 pages of it!) makes it clear that many of us are attracted to men while we're dressed up. Gender identify and sexual orientation are two different things and yet often intertwined. This is something that I get to explain to each woman that I date!

I was surprised the other day to discover that Tri-Ess specifically supports "heterosexual" crossdressers. How odd.... open-minded about gender identity but not sexuality.

[cdmcconnell84]

Throwing in my two cents to this long and popular thread. Personally, I tend to think most things are complicated, but questions about the interplay between gender and sexuality... whoo boy! It can get really messy. And since I don't think I've read any reply that really covers all the facets of my experience I'll weigh in with my own humble opinion. So, as for me:

I'm bisexual, but the way in which I'm attracted to men and women often differs.
I'm also transgender, and the gender that I'm presenting can affect how I relate to my object of affection / desire.
Let me try and explain.

As for emotional connections and relationships - I have only barely begun to "date" men. I've had a handful of serious and semi-serious girlfriends over the years, but no such boyfriends. I am more quickly at ease among girls even as friends and I can more readily divulge my intimate thoughts and feelings to them. I take much longer to relate to boys that way.

That said, I've had several sexual experiences with men. Not to get into the gory details, but the number of partners that I'd say I've been sexual with is roughly equal between women and men at this point. The kind of sex and the kind of attraction involved though was rather different between them. Now, this is all made even more confusing though by the fact that there have naturally also been a few key differences in the context of the sex and attraction. First, as I said, I had dated and thus knew most of the women quite well before sexual intimacy, where that was rarely the case for the men. Also though, it is naturally a different context (that is, in many ways given our hetero-normative society and the fact that I was born genetically male), in which I got to know those women. To explain further - as a apparently cisgender "man" going out with a woman, neither I or my partner had to think much about gender. On the other hand, when I, as a transgender "woman" went out with a man, there is naturally in our society a kind of "sexual" context for the event. I'm not saying it's fair, but it's there. Most of the men that I've been out with have known from almost the first that I am transgender, and several of them have met me on through the internet on sites more or less built around sexual encounters <I have had some experience with men even while I presented male but rather little>... Aaaaanyway, the point is that even keeping that in mind I think I can safely say that other factors have separately made my connections to men and women different as well.

I can be attracted physically (I might say "viscerally) to both men and women, and may be equally likely to be aroused by airbrushed models in display windows, but for the average person on the street I'm more often attracted that way to women. That probably has to do with the way women are really just more likely to be forced to live up to "beauty culture" but there's also something more I think. That is, I think that our culture (modern Western) has very effectively defined the gender roles of "man" and "woman" according to "who possesses" and "who is possessed". Now, I also think it unlikely that almost anyone is 100% in their preference for either, and I'm sure there's a large part of the sexual segregation is natural, but both nature and nurture in some combination I think have made us inclined to see "being a man" as "being one who goes out to find and possess sexual objects". Men are active agents of sex. "Being a woman" on the other hand means "being one who personifies that sexual object and who can be taken". Women are passive.

So this is all to explain that I do like men, and it's not just a fantasy, but the way in which my attraction can play out in our society is complicated for me (and complicated for same-sex couples too of course). This is why male crossdressers so often have to face the assumption that they're gay. Even if there weren't plenty of male crossdressers and transgender people who do like men, the fact that the large majority has a strong, sometimes exclusive preference for women doesn't jive with the longstanding cultural narrative of - one must be man, another must be woman, the man most possess woman, the woman must be possessed by man. So I think, for example, a loooot of crossdressers, motivated at least in part to present as woman do so in order to get some sense of what it is to be a sexual object and to be valued as such. Most outsiders then still want all of these roles and labels to line up. So if you say, "I want to be valued as an object of beauty and sexual desire and I will present as female to do so" then others jump ahead to, "Oh, you want to be a woman... so you like men." As if there weren't innumerable elements that make up what it means to "be a woman" and as if they all just had to line up.

I understand all too well where these folks are coming from mind you, since my own feelings too are a big jumbled mess. For example, I won't rule out being really viscerally excited by an intimate sexual experience with a man, even as I present as a man too (people out there in the world do it all the time), but for me, it's not common that I think about such things. I much more often think about being with men as a woman because I know how that particular yin-yang equation works. I've been on one side of it, but wanting to experience a lot of what is taken for granted on the other side is part of the foundation for my own transgender identity. It may seem absurd coming from a transgender woman, but honestly the sort of "negotiated" gendering that goes on in same-sex couples seems like the greater hurdle for me. So if I daydream about Matt Bomer (because... seriously, dayum!), and knowing my own tendency towards many "female" associated behaviors and roles then it's easier for me to see him as the "man" who "possesses me". I mean, if we're talking Matt Bomer (who btw actually happens to be gay!), I'd be happy to be to be the one chasing, but I then have to imagine him in what amounts to the "feminine" role, and vis a vis me even if I were imagining myself presenting male, that just seems strange for me personally. I have little context for that....

Anyway... that was some epic rambling.
Basically, girls will be boys and boys will be girls; it's a mixed up muddled up, shook up world.

tldnr, I'm outey ^____~

[Pandys]

I'm bisexual, but the way in which I'm attracted to men and women often differs.................
Basically, girls will be boys and boys will be girls; it's a mixed up muddled up, shook up world.

tldnr, I'm outey ^____~

Well put, you very much captured how I feel.

[jules]

100% into my wife :)
Even if she left me :(
And yes cara lacey that's makes you a lesbian ;)
And me also :)
Men blaa yuck.


Just my thoughts not yours:)
Julie

[Sophie_C]

You know, these answers are often loaded. You have people here who have wives or GFs who either read this forum or may in the future, and people give the answer just so they wouldn't risk losing them (as many people could). I mean, there is a pattern. The more one protests, the more they appear to have their current relationship at risk. That situation places a bit of doubt in any answers given where someone is in that situation. Just saying.

But, I'm not here to judge. For me, anyway, as time is passing, it's appearing more and more that, as a trans woman, I have zero lesbian tendencies, just like as a boy, I had zero gay tendencies. There is a certain energy, a certain chemistry that both have (entirely different from each other) which just never felt right. I remember running a while back where clearly some guy was flirting with me (as a boy) and the whole thing just felt uncomfortable to me. The same thing was when I was in a gay bar. The entire thought and feeling of the male-male dynamic just was highly uncomfortable to me and I had to leave soon after.

You see, when it comes to this, what people don't recognize in all of this is CONTEXT. The entire experience of love, romance and sexuality is done from a specific perspective: A man with a man, a woman with a woman, a man with a woman, a woman with a man - and from each interaction, the experience is entirely different.

This is where gender does have an effect on sexuality. It affects one's perspective, and in turn, one's experience. Now, to be clear, gender and sexuality are still entirely different things, as they've always been. But, if that perspective changes, the entire experience will change and who knows how things will turn out? Maybe you'll turn out to like the lesbian world and feel right at home with that. Maybe you'll realize interacting with men in a romantic setting is a far better thing than you ever imagined. You just don't know. But, once you start getting your mind tuned more into it's natural perspective (repressed or not), everything starts getting clearer and clearer (at least, it was, for me).

[Arianny]

It's weird, I'm only attracted to the female body but when I get into "female mode" I do fantasize of satisfying a man, or a man satisfying me.
But when I'm in "male mode" I never think about guys like that, only women.

[Guy19]

Yeeeeeeees :)

[Desirae]

I was surprised the other day to discover that Tri-Ess specifically supports "heterosexual" crossdressers. How odd.... open-minded about gender identity but not sexuality.


I remember seeing that, too, when I was checking out their website quite some time ago. That really threw me for a loop, too, how an organization like this could discriminate on the basis of sexuality. It just doesn't make any sense to me.

[Robbin_Sinclair]

Honestly, if I slip into my lingerie, especially one of the complicated sets, and my mood is right, I'm willing to do just about anything with either gender. It's all good for me as long as its passionate and honest.

For statistic gathering, put me down as someone like Maria. And thanks for doing the numbers. Very interesting results. So many of us are so different, that's for sure.

I used to say that I was a real man just dressing up. Then I began to look at my life and wonder if I doth protest too much. Always overcompensating. Today, having some kind of dude relationship is on the bucket list but will probably never happen. Reality is far too complicated.

I used to say that if I ever did a boy, he would have to first be girl looking, i.e., crossdresser. No burly guys for me. Now, I wonder.

I had a fling when I was in my twenties but it pretty much falls into a black out. His name was John and he picked up me in a late night boys clubs. I was going there to get laid, I think. At least a drink. Home, wham bam, thank you, bye. John goes back to the action and I go home to pass out.

Great thread. Had to weigh in just to make sure that I don't lose it. Happy what's left of Thanksgiving girls. All we have left around the house is white meat. So boring. Stop it Robbin.

:hugs: rBBn

[Sophie_C]

I remember seeing that, too, when I was checking out their website quite some time ago. That really threw me for a loop, too, how an organization like this could discriminate on the basis of sexuality. It just doesn't make any sense to me.

As I said before, these things are loaded. This sounds intentional, made up by members so that they don't freak out their wives/girlfriends that they'll be "influenced" and run off with men. After all, if "everyone is straight or asexual" "you have nothing to worry". Can you see how this is designed to play out in a conversation for the wife/gf of a crossdresser?

[PatChick]

You could put me down for a yes. Definately have the fantasies. I'm partly scared to act on it, because that may ruin the fantasy, because there is no way it can live up to what's in my head.

[sheilagirl]

I've always been a sensitive person and I feel I have developed a wonderful feminine side to me but I've never felt an attraction to men when Dressed or not. In fact, to me, most men are appalling or simply unattractive and why these beautiful creatures who spend so much time and effort to make themselves beautiful, would want to have anything to do with most of the clods out there, is hard to understand but, I guess, whatever floats-your-boat.

[Adriana Moretti]

I like both...so I guess I am bi...I have had girlfriends & boy friends . I do love being submissive...to me it is the ultimate in sexy.

[irishsissy]

Yep, I like the Guys.

[geri]

Cheryl,

I do to. I think it's a mind thing. but I go further and desire sex too.

[RachaelInLv]

I am Bi-Sexual so i find myself looking at both women and men. But oddly i find myself looking at women more when i am dressed

[Girl]

For me, the thrill of satisfying a man is really intensified when I'm dressed. It's definitely one of life's great pleasures! :)

[whowhatwhen]

You could put me down for a yes. Definately have the fantasies. I'm partly scared to act on it, because that may ruin the fantasy, because there is no way it can live up to what's in my head.

On the flip side, what if the experience ends up surpassing the fantasy?
If you're attracted to guys then it's going to end up burning away at you anyway.

Hell, it burns away at me now not being able to get with a guy and I'm still riddled with testosterone for the time being.

[weyburn]

for me personally I never had the slightest interest in men but the as I dress more often and go out more often The thoughts and feelings of being with a man have been sparked.The other day our condo had
our fireplace inspected and I actually thought what I would do if he actually hit on me.Sometimes thoughts and reality are not on same page.As I increase my femininity the thoughts become more frequent

[PatChick]

On the flip side, what if the experience ends up surpassing the fantasy?
If you're attracted to guys then it's going to end up burning away at you anyway.

Hell, it burns away at me now not being able to get with a guy and I'm still riddled with testosterone for the time being.

I guess it's like that line, "Is it better to have love and lost than to never have loved at all." So do you wish you had never tried it? or are you glad you experienced it?

[PaulaQ]

So do you wish you had never tried it? or are you glad you experienced it?

"It's better to regret the things you have done, than the things you haven't..."

[whowhatwhen]

So do you wish you had never tried it? or are you glad you experienced it?

I haven't experienced it yet, but what I do know is that men are my primary attraction and while it might not be fireworks projected onto the side of a unicorn it's just a part of me that has that want and need.
Shying away because it has the potential to be bad means I might never be with anyone ever.

[Laurenlovecd]

For me, the thrill of satisfying a man is really intensified when I'm dressed. It's definitely one of life's great pleasures! :)

I agree, but I am very picky when it comes to men. At times I have felt sorry for women in the market looking for guys, so many thugs out there and complete morons.

[AmandaPanda]

in no way am i attracted to men and im a strong believer that its not what you wear that makes you who you are. that being said for some of us we dress because we admire woman and the feminine way and others dress because they want to be woman. im the latter so isnt sex with a man one of those checklist to be a woman? as much as pms and periods and child birth suck wouldnt you want to experience it, just once?
Like i said there is no man i find attractive im not rushing off to blow Ryan Gosling i think the prefect solution would be to just buy a toy or two and try it out or maybe a compromise of sorts and hook up with a pre op transgender
anyone feel the same way?

[FemmeElastique]

I think about guys when I'm dressed as a guy or a girl. I'm gay =)
It's much easier to attract guys when I'm dressed as a girl. Hot! :)

[Amymonroe]

i tend to lean towards guys.

[NicoleScott]

"It's better to regret the things you have done, than the things you haven't..."

On the other hand:
You catch thousands of fish and nobody calls you a fisherman.
You harvest a hundred deer and nobody calls you a deer hunter.
But you suck one **** and everybody calls you a **********.

[lisagurl]

i like some guys, mostly if they are fem :)

[Kyle]

I like being a girl, but I couldn't emotionally have a relationship with one again. I just like guys, maybe because I just don't like be a guy at all, I don't know.

[Patsy Ann]

Being quite new to dressing im not really sure what or how far i would actually go but with my limited expeirence i do fantasize about being persued

[Sue Too]

I've tried them all and enjoy them all. Each has a lot going for it.

Susan in Phoenix

[whowhatwhen]

On the other hand:
But you suck one **** and everybody calls you a **********.

This isn't very fair though, why should someone deny the experience that they desire because other people will have a problem with it?
Bigots are always going to exist, don't let them get between you and a boner.

Though I'm pretty sure most homophobes would love to get between a few boners if you know what I mean.

[NicoleScott]

It seems that being gay is more accepted than being a CDer.
The only boner I'm interested in is my own.

[katewithcurves]

I have found that I am very heterosexual. When I am a guy, the idea of being with a guy is quite off putting. However, I dress to pretend I am a woman, with all the right parts, so when I am dressed I want nothing more than to give myself to a guy.

[robindee36]

Have yet to try my first man, but I find other Tgirls absolutely scrumptious. Guess its all in the packaging (and presentation ;)

Hugs, Robin (the nothing phobic)

[PatChick]

(the nothing phobic)
What about spiders?

[whowhatwhen]

Jumping spiders are absolutely adorable.

[robindee36]

I share Corinne's feelings about arachnids, cute and fuzzy critters they are. Actually had a pet huntsman but customs would not let me bring it home. It was a tropical roach eating machine.

However, I'll take a cute cross dresser over an 8 legged friend any time. Well most times.

Hugs, Robin

[Laurenlovecd]

I enjoy both CD's and men, but a bad experience with either can ruin everything for quite some time, believe me :( I am very careful now.

[Ressie]

On the other hand:
You catch thousands of fish and nobody calls you a fisherman.
You harvest a hundred deer and nobody calls you a deer hunter.
But you suck one **** and everybody calls you a **********.

I don't think there's much truth in this. It's just an old joke from way back when. But one day it dawned on me that guys that tell lots of C********r jokes are secretly interested in doing it.

[NicoleScott]

Ressie, it is an old joke and I just posted it for a little humor. But I don't agree about the c********r joke-tellers. I think they are more likely homophobes. And, some people just sling the word out without thinking about it, like everything is a f*****g this or f*****g that.

[jennloves55]

I have fantasized for a long time about being with another CD. I have now reached the point where I think of it daily and am trying to find someone near me to meet.

[DaveyaNLR]

I certainly DO! Once I am all dressed up. I'm looking to play. I have a couple of freinds in my area but don"t get to see them often. There is 2 adult stores I will go to dressed and love it when the men make passes at me but you have to be very careful and remember saftey.....

[Sarah M]

I have always been interested in Girls an no interest in Guys I'm TS an on HRT an after several months on the HRT I'm still interested in Girls an also interested in Guys dressed or not. I have been with a Guy an it was exciting. The HRT not only changes the body but the brain also So I consider myself Bi..

Sarah

[DanielleT]

I have been with several men while dressed and had a lot fun. Maybe not for everyone, but for me to experience full womanhood, I needed to do that.

[rocval2001]

This got quite the response - I would say that being with a man as Valerie is prefered - I even have fantasy's about the opportunity.

[Julie Gaum]

Tish, Tish Reine --- Are you the same Reine who, for years, stated that when one only has a fantasy of being with a male then you are still hetero? If you are then aren't you skewing (I said skewing) the tally? What would your tally be if you were to put those who ONLY fantasize back where you once labeled them? After that it is, as Paula pointed out, only a tally and too small a sample to make a statistic out of it --- especially since the OP brings out responses from a particular segment and not from the entire spectrum. Don't ask me what that segment might be --- have no idea. However the polling results would be similar to letters we all get from political or environmental groups who ask for donations and also to answer very slanted questions designed to fashion the results desired by them.
Julie

[ReineD]

Julie, without going back and finding my responses to this thread, I'm pretty sure that I was tallying negative vs. positive responses and nothing else. It's hard to know how many of the positive responses are pure fantasy.

[LaraPeterson]

Pandora and her box. . .the genetics of the whole thing is scary, Cheryl. I'm with you, though--except it happens for me after the makeup, lingerie, and nails go on. As soon as I step into some really nice stilettos, my mind begins to spin. I've presented as a "normal" guy in public for most of my life and for the first decade or two, I didn't think so much about being with a guy. That has all changed. Now, when I'm dressed and when I'm not, I think about some of the guys I know and how I'd like to be their "girlfriend."

Does that make me gay? bisexual? or just plain weird? I've been wined and dined, propositioned, and seduced by some really nice guys. And I loved every minute of it.

[CDSamantha]

This is my belief and mine only. If we believe that we are women, then the choice to be with a man or a woman is equally correct.

Love,

Samantha Anne

[Katie80NIU]

I'm definitely been interested in guys while dressed. I've had two encounters with guys, both were great experiences.

Katie

[emilamb]

When dressed as a man, I am only interested in women. When dressed as a woman, or daydreaming of dressing as a woman, my interests are decidedly bisexual.

[laciewhite]

in my daily life as a man i'm only interested in ladies.

my CD activities have always been totally solo/secret.

however i do sometimes fantasize about being with a guy when CDing. and always with a stereotypical alpha-male, physically strong and dominant.

in my fantasies i'm always strictly in female/submissive mode. perhaps this is why i never think of being with a girl or another CD, as the roles would be too ambiguous.

conversely i also have fantasies where i am the dominant non-CD male having my wicked way with a submissive female.

in real life i'm a very gentle considerate lover, yet in both my fantasy scenarios the sex can get pretty rough (but nothing too weird!) and always involves male domination.

i don't anticipate ever acting on any of these fantasies. my solo CD sessions seem to be enough to keep this 'dark' side in check.

[JennyLynn]

I have that affinity. I would more like to be with a CD than a "guy". I like the feminine side, but would definitely enjoy the experience of being with a CD. Guess I'm just a lesbian that doesn't care about the plumbing!! :).

[cdintraining25]

I'm bi but I haven't really ever been attracted to guys, that being said I'm not saying that under the right circumstances I wouldn't do anything. When I dress is definitely more male attention I get though.

[Lisa.Stevenson]

When I'm in girl mode I am much more likely to be interested in boys. In my daily life, and under normal circumstances I have very little interest in them at all. Isn't life awesome in a confusing sort of crazy way? :P

[bimini1]

I have a fantasy of being taken as a heterosexual female but as far as I can tell its only fantasy. I'm of the belief that often fantasy is better than the real thing. But given a situation with no constrictions, I do believe a lot of us don't truly know what we'd do in that situation no matter what we may say. I don't think I know what I'd do.

I have a CD friend who recently asked me "what about boys, are you attracted while presenting en femme?" And I gave her this very answer. She responded saying not only is she attracted but has acted on it. The guilt I have about dressing itself is bad enough at times. If I acted on it my conscience would eat me alive afterwards, then again maybe not.

[Viconia]

When I am dressed I am still only interested in women.

[MarisaRose.]

When I'm out and dressed, I still prefer women, in this case my wife. It's incredibly flattering when a guy comes up and introduces himself to me ( my SO thinks not ) but in the end, nothing feels better than cuddling up to the to the woman who knows me best...

[Kristy 56]

I have fantasized for a long time about being with another CD. I have now reached the point where I think of it daily and am trying to find someone near me to meet.

Jenn,I too find myself fantasizing more and more about that. Especially another CD with their spouse.

[Lysie]

While dressed, I'd be open to experimenting with a man. It's a nice little fantasy I suppose. In man form not so much, I'll keep to women.

[MascStilettoBoy]

As someone who is already attracted to men, I can say that dressing up certainly amplifies that deep physical and emotional attraction in a way that I haven't before experienced.

[Daphne Renee]

I would take it as a compliment if a man were to find me attractive but I am only interested in women though.

[Rarity]

When I am in "guy" mode I truly am only interested in women. And when my pink passenger takes over I am still interested in women, BUT I do start checking out men and get an urge to date one and maybe have a relationship. I know weird right?

[Lysie]

Well, you put that much better than I could have. My feelings exactly.

[Viconia]

I only like the ladies no matter what form I am in at the time.