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linda allen

06-20-2013, 07:00 AM

I haven't been out yet as Jennifer, but when I do, I'll still be looking at girls. Does that make me a lesbian when I'm dressed? :)

No, it makes you a "straight" male crossdresser just as I am. I have sometimes wondered what it would feel like to have sex as a female, but of course I'm not equipped for it, even dressed, so it's nothing more than a fantasy. Even at that, I can't imagine being intimate with a man so it would have to be some faceless male body. Or a machine.

Having been married for over thirty years and having been on this planet for more than twice that, I seldom even look at other women as sex objects.

Jordan

06-20-2013, 07:27 AM

I think it would be a great experience dressed as jordan to have sex with a male or another crossdresser. I would prefer the crossdresser but a male would also work. I have never done it but think about it all the time

Ressie

06-20-2013, 07:39 AM

I have to admit I have fantasies in this area and I've done webcamming with men and CDs.

Paula DAngelo

06-20-2013, 07:43 AM

No I don't change preferences when dressed, but that's only because I'd go either way regardless of how I was dressed. One of the advantages of not discriminating based on sex is you double your chance of getting lucky.

Jennifer Kelly

06-20-2013, 08:07 AM

I would like to have a sexual encounter while dressed, but only with a female. I just need to find one that won't run screaming when I tell her about my hobby. :)

gailprice

06-20-2013, 08:08 AM

Boys are not for me. women for me.....:)

boink

06-20-2013, 08:16 AM

I have no qualms about feeling attracted to anyone no matter what their identity (gender and otherwise) is. That said, my actual attractions have been skewed very heavily towards women. So it goes!

Michelle (Oz)

06-20-2013, 08:17 AM

Only women. I wear a wedding and engagement ring but the occasional attention from men more disturbs me rather than flatters.

BillieAnneJean

06-20-2013, 08:23 AM

My sexual preference does not change. Even when dressed I am absolutely not interested in men in any way. Women are just so lovely in all their glory.

I consider it a compliment to my enfemme presentation when I get a look, a horn honk, a wave, or a compliment from either gender.

When dressed I am so much in to the look and feel that I don't need anything past that.

I have a SO who can provide enough sexual satisfaction (always when I am enguy) to make anything else redundant.

Norah_joy

06-20-2013, 08:56 AM

Girl

06-20-2013, 09:02 AM

I wonder how many of us like guys when dressed.
I do! (And when I'm undressed!)

haleycole

06-20-2013, 10:48 AM

I am attracted and have been with men while I am dressed. Never when I am not dressed. I am also attracted to crossdressers as a male and female.

Alaina Ann

06-20-2013, 11:00 AM

Angie G

06-20-2013, 11:08 AM

I have had a fantasy about being with a man as Angie. But it's never going to happen. Not into man it's just not for me.:hugs:
Angie

Tracii G

06-20-2013, 11:20 AM

Depends on the guy really.I can go both ways.

Debra Russell

06-20-2013, 12:08 PM

Like Ossian, I enjoy the female awsomeness around me. I like to look wounderful and male attention is flattering but un-nerving not knowing how to take it - still the femm feeling is the best............................Debra

StacyPump

06-20-2013, 12:35 PM

I do fantasize about being with a man when I dress. I am not attracted to men otherwise, but the thought of being Stacy, and being sexy and attractive, and turning a man on, is quite thrilling to me.

cyndigurl45

06-20-2013, 12:38 PM

A lifetime ago I felt like that, and so I'm out dressed doing the punker chick thing, late 70's, I'm dating guys on a regular basis one guy stuck with me even in guy mode, so back then labels were hung, we were a couple of gay guys, I wasn't sure about that cause I preferred to be a woman so I took the submissive roll he is about 7 years older so we started living together, two guys, but my desire to be a woman came to ahead, insert pun if needed, I didn't like it but I was OK with it, so in 2002 I started to transition, he wasn't to happy at first but when he saw how happy I was he was good with it, we actually have been married now, husband and wife, whole nother story...... Sorry so long and a little off topic but to sum it up I've done both but prefer being with a man when I'm myself ;-)

Beverley Sims

06-20-2013, 12:51 PM

When I was younger the girls I went with encouraged me to go on dates with them and they would line a guy up for me.
I found the experience not unpleasant. :)

whowhatwhen

06-20-2013, 01:49 PM

There was a time where I'd think long and hard about this but in the end it turns out I'm attracted to guys either way.
I just used to compartmentalize my attraction because at the time it was "easier", that broke pretty easy actually by just giving the thought a chance and not being afraid of the outcome.

Lexi_83

06-20-2013, 04:16 PM

I have a couple of bi male friends who I've experimented with. Never with anyone I didn't know.

Tess

06-20-2013, 07:16 PM

How I'm dressed and my sexual preferrence have always been separate. I would always choose sex with a man over a woman even if my partner happens to be a woman.

Ressie

06-20-2013, 07:43 PM

It's interesting that many are responding to this that don't post very often.

Dianne S

06-20-2013, 07:44 PM

I'm not attracted to men when I'm in male mode, nor when I'm fully in female mode. At night if I'm wearing lingerie or a nightie, then I sometimes fantasize about being with a man. It's all fantasy, though... I seriously doubt I'll ever act on it.

Jorja

06-20-2013, 07:57 PM

My sexual preference does not change. I like both males and females dressed or not. :)

rita63

06-20-2013, 09:03 PM

I have been attracted to men when not dressed and would love to meet one dressed. As to any relationship, sexual or other, it would depend on the chemistry and compatibility. I've always found the person more important than their gender and have enjoyed sex with both men and women. I'm just picky about who I sleep with.

Barbara Dugan

06-20-2013, 09:17 PM

I like boys on either mode but I have much better luck as a girl

whowhatwhen

06-20-2013, 09:24 PM

From the looks of it people are just horny bas***ds...
;)

Edit:
Oh come on, that looks way worse censored!

Leah Lynn

06-20-2013, 09:43 PM

The thought of what it would be like has crossed my mind, but I'm not interested in making love to a man. I was on an outing when a gay gent that is known to our group was paying attention to me. He knew I was male, but still the attention was nice.

Leah

Maria Blackwood

06-20-2013, 10:47 PM

My sexual preference does not change. I like both males and females dressed or not. :)

I've suspected with me it's my arrival to crossdressing via my many years in the BDSM scene here in California. I did love deep diving into a role. I want to see, touch, taste and feel everything it has to offer. Or something like that. Dressing just pushes my mind more into the role? Who knows? I'm quite a silly pony.

Maria Blackwood

06-20-2013, 10:51 PM

It's interesting that many are responding to this that don't post very often.

I just happened to wander in at the right time. :-)

NicoleScott

06-21-2013, 08:30 AM

It's fun to fantasize about attracting the attention of a man who likes how I look. Just a fantasy, though, I would never consider making it real. Yuk.

Jordan

06-21-2013, 08:53 AM

Like I said they are so many different responses here. I like this thread. I just think being dressed as a woman and being with another crossdresser would be the ultimate. As long as I got to be the girl in the romance

Vicky_Scot

06-21-2013, 11:26 AM

If you are attracted to a man when dressed then you are attracted to men when not dressed.

Stop trying to kid yourself, all you are looking for is an excuse to justify it.

NicoleScott

06-21-2013, 11:47 AM

If you are attracted to a man when dressed then you are attracted to men when not dressed.

Stop trying to kid yourself, all you are looking for is an excuse to justify it.

Justify what?
It's not the man that's attracted to, it's the idea that a man (or woman, for that matter) is attracted to the way we present as women.

AmandaM

06-21-2013, 11:54 AM

If you are attracted to a man when dressed then you are attracted to men when not dressed.

Stop trying to kid yourself, all you are looking for is an excuse to justify it.

Uh no, When I am dressed I am attracted to women, some CD/TS people, and once in awhile certain men. I am never attracted to men in guy mode. I don't look at them, I don't think they're cute, I completely ignore them. My feelings for women never go away no matter how I'm dressed. This seems to be common with many trans folk. I think it's the whole "validation" as women psychological bent at work, i.e., dressing as a woman brings out a "female sexuality". In other words, some of us are indeed half-woman in every way mentally, not just crossdressers, but not quite transsexuals.

Brynn_A

06-21-2013, 12:06 PM

Well, I personally like boys all the time..being dressed just kicks it into another gear.

Cheryl S.

06-21-2013, 01:51 PM

Well I have never been attracted to a man when in male mode. Having said that when I am in full female dress I have had several men pay attention to me and on two ocassions have let them make a pass at me. In both cases they knew I was a CD and the relationship went as far as we each wanted. Would I do this in male mode? Absolutely not I enjoy women but when in female dress I feel and present like a woman and thoroughly enjoy the attention.

Veronnie2

06-21-2013, 05:13 PM

As my femme self, Veronnica, I must admit I am bi-sexual. I enjoy women so much that I aspire to look like and to act like one in my every day life. With that said, yes, I think about and look at men and they look at me. Yes, I do date men and yes, I do date women either as Ron or as Veronnica. Yes, with GG women, I can be that infamous lesbian. Veronnica

MysticLady

06-21-2013, 06:44 PM

Hello All

This appears to be a very popular thread. I feel I must answer:heehee:. Anyway, what I have been experiencing as of lately is I believe to lack of intimacy I have seen beautiful transformations and sometimes I become excited of the beauty that these men...........( put on the table) for a lack of a better word. The beauty I see is very intoxicating and while I know they're men an in any other " fashion" I would see them as......well.........Yuk. A man in a 3 piece suit is lame to me but GG's go haywire. Anyway, when a man portrays a beauty that supposedletly belongs to a woman...........then things change for me. I desire the beauty but the realization that a man portrays that beauty somewhat betrays my lust somehow. Am I different in thinking this......?

Sorry........... I'm a little tipsy tonight and I'm sure I'm not making any sense:D

whowhatwhen

06-21-2013, 07:07 PM

Then again not all girls are into the same kind of guys and it's counterproductive to assume you'd fit into yet another box.
I'm not interested in guys wearing suits, it does nothing for me so if I were to have questioned myself by only examining my attraction to men wearing suits I wouldn't get an accurate reading.

IMO It's just a bit too easy to look at big, buff dudes and say "nope, not attracted" when you've only examined a small fraction of the population.
fe: "hairy dudes? EW!" Is something that can be said by anyone, gay, straight, male, female and isn't really something to measure by.

Alice Torn

06-21-2013, 07:32 PM

I am with Kate on this one. I have been with three guys so far, and it went sort of ok. I tell them my limits, first. Have met one man , who loves to massage my legs, twice now. I have told him my boundries, and he is ok, gentleman widower. However, most men turn me off! I would rather be with a gg.

Maria Blackwood

06-21-2013, 10:18 PM

If you are attracted to a man when dressed then you are attracted to men when not dressed.

Stop trying to kid yourself, all you are looking for is an excuse to justify it.

Please don't claim to know what's in my head. I explored that quite thoroughly during 15 years of BDSM activity and experimentation. I explore what I want and do not need excuses.

Valerie1973

06-21-2013, 11:24 PM

Well, if you like boys then you do. If you don't then you don't. However, never underestimate the power of the dress. High on pink fog some times some of us want to be with a guy. I have had my moments of pink fog and played out the "how hot that guy is" but its just talk for me and part of the dressing up.

whowhatwhen

06-21-2013, 11:30 PM

Vickie_CDTV

06-22-2013, 04:28 AM

I am attracted to women, and it doesn't change whether I am dressed or not; neither does the type of woman I find attractive change whether I am dressed or not. (Come to think of it, my attraction to women and the type of women I find attractive hasn't changed at all since early puberty.)

Maybe it is because I am an introvert and am wired differently than most people, but I just don't find male attention flattering or desirable (the only man I want to find me attractive is myself.) If there were women who got all excited by seeing me dressed, I would desire their attention, but since that scenario is really just fantasy I don't send much time worrying about it.

renee elizabeth

06-22-2013, 05:50 AM

not into men at all, i will only notice and date women

Janet Bern

06-22-2013, 06:45 AM

I usually think about how to avoid men

ReineD

06-22-2013, 01:38 PM

Interesting statistics.

Excluding the "don't knows", double posts, and back and forth discussion, so far there are 23 definite "NOs". And there are 34 positive responses, ranging from definite yesses, to 'exciting thought', to 'interesting idea', to 'yes but fantasy only', to 'only when I'm dressed'.

So the tally is:

NO - 40%

Yes, maybe, interesting, when dressed only, fantasy only - 60%

Ashley Lyn

06-22-2013, 01:59 PM

I always look at the ladies, mostly wishing I was one of them.. at least for a bit..
I do have a tendency toward fanaticizing about an encounter with a guy, but ONLY when dressed.. So OP, you aren't totally alone..
Other than that, I'm lookin' and admiring the ladies..

Robyn2006

06-22-2013, 04:40 PM

It's maddening sometimes how easy it is for me to switch my gender spirit (spirit?) and lauded, expected sexual desires. In my normal life, I lust after women just like any guy. But once transformed into womanhood, it's only men who I find desirable, wishing so much to be with and adored by a man. Such fantasies drive me into a netherworld completely. Thinking I'm some hybrid heterosexual, able to somehow take-in both worlds, both gender identities. But truth be told, I'd choose a life as a woman and those desires in a heartbeat, if only I could. :daydreaming:

Adrienne Heels

06-22-2013, 07:30 PM

I have to admit I do like men when I am Adrienne......

leliani

06-22-2013, 08:21 PM

Definitely all about the girls for me in both male and female mode. I have nothing against being gay, I just love women so much. I love smooth legs, shapely curves, long hair... Though I do/can find other crossdressers and transgender s attractive. I got hit on by a guy once in a club, and I very quickly announced that I was a lesbian. He wouldn't go away, but thankfully a girl I didn't know overheard the conversation and rescued me. I will always have a soft spot in my heart for that girl.
Another time was when a guy was trying to get past me, and he rested his hand on the small of back. Now I see how women can get creeped out by moves like that.

ellieg

06-22-2013, 08:48 PM

I am bi, (though primarily hetero), so it doesn't change for me. However the feelings for men intensify when I am dressed. I very much want to experience sex with a man when I am en femme, and hope to be able to experience it.

SarahBJackson

06-22-2013, 11:53 PM

It's interesting. When Sarah emerged last year, she came along with a sexual change. I went from a 99.9% heterosexual to being what I've finally started calling myself "polysexual". I still like women the best, but I'm into some guys and I really like crossdressers and transgenders. It doesn't have anything to do with whether or not I'm dressed.

OKPink

06-23-2013, 01:09 AM

Dressed or not, I like them both :)

Beverley Sims

06-23-2013, 01:23 AM

Reine,
Thank you for taking your time to level this conversation out,
I looked but did move on.
Quite interesting when looked at logically.

GroovyChristy

06-23-2013, 02:26 AM

It's kind of funny...I love females who are more boyish and boys who are girly. I guess I am attracted to my fellow gender-benders. It does not change according to my clothing. I am the same in my head all the time. I am attracted to some women, and some men. Lately I'm more about the guys. It's taken me a long time to be comfortable with this, but I'm happy I've finally come to terms with being bisexual (though still single :cry:)

Cheryl123

06-23-2013, 06:38 AM

One psychological theory holds that we are all born bisexual. Then physical and social forces push most of is into the hetero camp. One of the main goals of most cross dressers is to pass as a woman. The more successful we are the more male attention we draw. `Not so long ago I was in that "not into men in no way" club but as I spend half of my time en femme now (still not publically) I've become more accepting to the idea of living with a man as a woman.

cassexy

06-23-2013, 07:19 AM

well some of us like me aare bisexual and we like guys and girls alike, although drssing as a girl is a world apart

aalynn88

06-23-2013, 07:36 AM

None of the people I know seem to understand. I don't like men, neither physically or romantically, however, I like being a woman and having sex with a man REALLY makes me feel like I'm a woman.
I just don't think 'gay' is the right label for me. I could only be in love with a woman and I'm only attracted to women but I have sex with men to intensify my fantasy of being a woman. I guess, technically, that makes me bi-sexual but even that label implies that I like men, which I don't.

Kristy 56

06-23-2013, 08:35 AM

Not attracted to men at all,and consider myself hetero. However, I have to admit that when dressed and in Kristy mode I often fantasize what it would be like to have the total experience. I'd say that if I was in the pink fog,and WITH a GG prodding me ans assisting I could be easily be persuaded to give it a try.But,that's the only way that I'd be in any way attracted.Does that make sense ?

ReineD

06-23-2013, 01:08 PM

None of the people I know seem to understand. I don't like men, neither physically or romantically, however, I like being a woman and having sex with a man REALLY makes me feel like I'm a woman.
I just don't think 'gay' is the right label for me.

No, you're not gay. The term for you (IMO) is 'autogynephilic', which means 'the love of oneself as a woman'. It's essentially an attraction to the self as a woman who has the power to entice men. The man then just becomes a prop to your fantasy, since you're not really attracted to him as a person.

AmandaM

06-23-2013, 02:06 PM

No, you're not gay. The term for you (IMO) is 'autogynephilic', which means 'the love of oneself as a woman'. It's essentially an attraction to the self as a woman who has the power to entice men. The man then just becomes a prop to your fantasy, since you're not really attracted to him as a person.

I don't completely buy into the 'autogynephilic' angle. I don't necessarily become aroused at the thought of me being a woman. But when I get dressed to the nines and "become" a woman, I want to experience all the mental, emotional, and physical experiences that women experience, up to and including sex. Autogynephilia seems to be a description of the sexual component only, and in my opinion is insufficient in explaining the phenomena because of the all-encompassing experience I described above.

Annaliese2010

06-23-2013, 02:51 PM

I wonder how many of us, after we dress and put on the makeup and look good, switch gender preference. I do. The last thing that goes on is the wig and then I'm out the door thinking about guys. I wonder how many of us like guys when dressed.I respect that about you Cheryl but also think to myself "sigh..." because you're a cute, Southern sultry girl. And me... I don't like guys i.e. male self-identified individuals whether straight gay or bi nor whether dressed drab or posing as female.

No value judgement against anyone..just my own preference. I only like girls. Real girls. Whether GG (FAB) or M2F transgendered girls. But true girls nevertheless. Which is why "crossdresser" is non-specific to me. An all encompassing umbrella term that spreads a very wide net - captures ALL of us (purposefully). Nothing wrong with that. Quite a service this website provides. Love it, nooo complaints.

But to me, how I self-identify with the woman in me? It's like...what's in the middle that counts. Deeep down in your heart. In your soul. Are you or are you Not a girl? (Thats a rhetorical question, not aimed at You hun - m just thinking out loud).

Eeeeenyways...thought your query interesting. An opportunity to highlight a difference probly not too many can appreciate: the concept of a M2F TG LEZ --> = a M2F transgendered girl whose attracted only to other girls like herself, plus GG girls as well. This must be viewed as lesbianisn from the pov of the M2F TG LEZ whether she's with a GG or another M2F TG girl. Whether the latter is lez or as in your case Cheryl, by an obverse line of reasoning, heterosexual. (thus my "sigh...").

TY hun :battingeyelashes:

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ReineD

06-23-2013, 02:53 PM

I don't completely buy into the 'autogynephilic' angle. I don't necessarily become aroused at the thought of me being a woman. I want to experience all the mental, emotional, and physical experiences that women experience, up to and including sex.

Just because it may not fit you doesn't mean that it doesn't fit anyone else. If you're attracted to men and you want to have sex with them because of your attraction, then you are not autogynephilic. But the OP said that s/he wasn't attracted to men so in his/her case it may well apply. Many CDers here have indeed said that AGP applies to them. So it may be more accurate for you to say that you don't buy into the concept as it applies to you? :)

Asp

06-23-2013, 03:00 PM

I always liked boys. I check out women, however, usually to admire what hey are wearing.

Violetgray

06-23-2013, 04:09 PM

for me personally, I don't feel like I am able to be attracted to men, and it doesn't strike me as the sort of thing that can be gained by switching clothes. That would kind of be like me saying "I don't know how to perform heart surgery unless I'm dressed as a doctor."

Princess Grandpa

06-23-2013, 04:22 PM

I thought I was experiencing bi-sexual tendencies. I have not had these fantasies at all however since I realized it was ok to dress. As I have never been attracted to men, even as we discussed the possibility of exploring these feelings, I felt no attraction to men. Just wanted to have sex with one. Rita trying to express herself perhaps?

Sabrina133

06-23-2013, 04:24 PM

I am Bi so i enjoy both men and women when either dressed or drab. When dressed as a woman, i prefer to be the female in the relationship, even with other women.

Joleen

06-23-2013, 05:25 PM

. There were times when dressed I thought Hmmmm? But no. its not me. I'll stay with women

sheilagirl

06-23-2013, 05:31 PM

Girls! Girls! Girls! ...I dig them Girls!

Erica2Sweet

06-23-2013, 10:56 PM

I know it's the mindset and all but if you can raise the flagpole for men while enfemme then what is the block causing everyone to find them unattractive in male mode?
In my case it was simply that I wasn't allowing myself to truly explore, maybe if some actually give your attractions a closer look things would open up a bit more?

Think about what you're attracted to in him while enfemme, look for the same type of men while in male mode and do an HONEST comparison on how you feel...

You're exactly right. The biggest roadblock for males and introspection with regard to our own sexuality is most often societal programming. This is a huge difference between CDs/TGs and the majority of genetic women. If you're raising (or have raised) kids, you know that they are very much programmed via childhood play and exposure to friends and popular culture, and young girls and boys' experiences during the "growing up" process are VERY different. Some of us choose later in life to override that "learned" programming and actively explore our desires with honesty, and some of us just don't allow ourselves to do that for a multitude of reasons. It's not to say every single person out there would be bisexual or gay if they just think about it harder. It seems the result just depends on the person and their internal wiring.

As for me, when I recently began to embrace this kind of honest introspection, I realized I was really only allowing myself crumbs of honest self assessment when I was in a more feminine mindset, which was when I was presenting fully as female. I also figured out that the only thing that was holding me back from accepting a more honest look at my desires was fear... in the form of the unnecessary need to protect my male ego. Sxometimes that comes in the form of needing my sexuality to fit into a simple and easy to understand box.

I do find that generally I'm more attracted to the female image than male, but there are rare specimens of males that I do find to be yummy. For me it's just the matter of embracing the reality of what qualities in others I find to be attractive, and to this day, it's not an easy subject to be honest with myself about. I work at it though.

This is just one more thing my wife and I talk about from time to time, and I think she finds it somewhat cute that I realize these things about myself weeks or even months after she has figured them out based on my behavior in a memorable situation for her, or just in my words relating to other conversations... :)

Leona

06-24-2013, 12:17 AM

I find I'm generally not attracted to men or FTM no matter what I'm wearing. But that doesn't mean I don't like playing with other men's parts, and I'm attracted to crossdressers, so, hmmmm.....

lizaw101

06-24-2013, 12:40 AM

When you are dressed and make up nicely and attractively why is it surprising that you find men attractive? Isn't it quite natural to feel attracted to men when you are fully living the moment as an attractive woman.

Brooklyn

06-24-2013, 10:04 AM

I came out years ago through my local drag scene, mistakenly assuming that men who like to dress as women were gay. I adore gay guys, but after dating a few, found that I wasn't physically attracted to them. Flirting, dancing, and being all touchy is fun and validating, and I feel most comfortable around gay guys because they are supportive and not usually interested in taking things any further with someone appearing female. I sometimes fantasize about being a lady down there and making love that way (AGP?), but I'm physically attracted to women no matter how I am dressed. Dressing is just a fun, creative thing I need to do every so often. I wish more GG's were cool with it!

TonyaV

06-24-2013, 11:02 AM

I'm with Dana on this one. I think I'd find it exciting if a man found me attractive, but I think that might partly be because his reaction confirms to me that my efforts at dressing and passing have been a success. It's also to do with the fact that when I become Lynn I try to forget my maleness entirely and become as complete a woman as I can be - physically and mentally.

Been there, done that. I admit, I have even crossed the line with a couple of them (at the same time); I must have done it more out of curiosity, I suppose, because of the afterwards feelings - I cried all night (no need to get into it now). What I got out of this experience, though, was that I discovered that going that far is with a man is not a usual goal for me. When I am out and about, I don't look for men, but I definitely still enjoy the attention I get by them. Once you realize the power you can have over men, it's pretty hard not to wanna experience it every once in a while, especially if you run into one that can treat you right. I don't shy away when they flirt, and generally do respond positively, possibly because I take their action as a form of approval for my sexiness and passing. I also get the biggest thrill from feeling how horny and excited I can make them. But at the end of the day, I believe, unless the man is super sexy and hot, other than GG's, I am only open to crossing the line with other CD's.

danielletorresani

06-24-2013, 11:22 AM

I'm definitely open to something happening with a man when I'm dressed. I don't so much want a man as I want to be wanted by a man...that turns me on. If that man is a passable CD, though, then I'd find myself wanting her just as much as I want to be wanted.

aalynn88

06-25-2013, 12:09 AM

No, you're not gay. The term for you (IMO) is 'autogynephilic', which means 'the love of oneself as a woman'. It's essentially an attraction to the self as a woman who has the power to entice men. The man then just becomes a prop to your fantasy, since you're not really attracted to him as a person.

Exactly! I wish more people could understand this. Everyone I know just thinks I'm gay. It just sucks being misunderstood by everyone you know. Since I came out of the closet over a year ago, I lost my girlfriend and I don't think there is a single woman in the world who would want to be with me now BUT, I would rather be free to go where I please, when I please, as a woman than to have a big secret. I am living an authentic life!!!!!!!!! They don't have to understand.

Jordan

06-25-2013, 09:03 AM

I agree with Tonyav I dont think I would like to be with just a man but another crossdresser that would be awesome

Jessica Keys

06-25-2013, 12:00 PM

I am very attracted to men when I am dressed, and have been with several men while I am dressed. I too, am never attracted to men when I am not dressed. For me dressing and feeling 100% female includes being with men.
When dressed as Jessica I am very attracted to guys and have gone out with a few and enjoyed being their woman for the weekend date.
When dressed I look at other females as my competition.

julia marie

06-25-2013, 02:15 PM

Put me in the column of "Definitely more curious about being with/attracted to men while dressed." No, I don't find most men attractive the rest of the time, and even while dressed a lot of them hold no appeal. But the curiosity is strong when I'm dressed. As an earlier poster noted, maybe it's part of wanting a more complete female experience.

irene9999

06-25-2013, 04:11 PM

Yeah, I have some bi-sexual tendencies (even while not dressed) so I do get turned on by men hitting on me. I haven't actually hooked up with a guy so even now it's still a fantasy but I definitely get turned on by this.

mikiSJ

06-25-2013, 04:54 PM

I am well past the "clothes turn me on" stage. Give me an accepting, nice looking, great face, easy to talk to, fun to be with woman every time.

Emma500

06-25-2013, 05:44 PM

Hi Cheryl,

I can relate to that. For me, I find that when I am fully dressed, I really like to imagine what it would be like if I actually was a woman. Part of that definitely does involve wondering what it would be like to be with a guy - but with me as a female. It's complicated!

Jenniferathome

06-25-2013, 11:11 PM

All of the gay or bisexual ones.

whowhatwhen

06-25-2013, 11:27 PM

Lemme ask this:
What kind of guys do you fantasize about?

Is it the hairless dude on the beach with perfect pecs?
A big, burly bear?
Femme?

It might be a fun exercise to try some introspection and try to understand why.
I'm not bashing on anyone who is only attracted to men while enfemme, I'm just curious if there are/how many parallels there are.

Societal conditioning may be partly responsible too, like the stereotype of girls always going for the big, tough, macho dude whereas I like guys who are a bit more feminine in appearance.
So when I was looking at big, tough-looking macho dudes and not feeling anything I was completely misleading myself by using that as a sole source.

JuliaC

06-27-2013, 04:26 PM

When I am crossdressed I love the idea of a guy treating me like a hot girl...so I am attracted to the idea of being a guys girlfriend. Although I don't really think of a guy as hot I would be with a muscular one if i was being treated as a girl

toni_62

06-27-2013, 05:40 PM

This subject is the main reason I purged all my stuff 10 months ago and I am currently in therapy. I don't consider myself bi-sexual and never give guys a second look while not dressed. I am attracted to women and have wondering eyes if she is attractive. That being said when I'm dressed I want to be with a guy. It's like my sexuality changes as soon as I get dolled up. I have been with a few guys, and while I was extremely careful I was constantly scared I would run into an STD or a nut job. I picked guys after talking to them awhile in a way I might find out how experienced they were, I preferred bi-curious men only. Now they could have lied, but I never had an issue. I picked average Joe's much like myself. It was risky behavior and that scared me. I still want to dress but, if I start again I'm sure I would also start wanting to be with guys again. So for now I'm not dressing.

Barbara Dugan

06-27-2013, 06:56 PM

Gia Villafana

06-28-2013, 01:35 AM

I fantasize about being with men while I'm dressed. Something about pleasing a man as a woman, I suppose.

dusktreader

06-28-2013, 03:49 AM

I'm bisexual both when I'm en femme and otherwise. However, I prefer to be in a more feminine mindset when I am with guys. It's been a bit of a frustration, though, because I tend to find that women are more attracted to me when I am dressed up than men, or at least they are less intimidated about talking to me or approaching me. I often day dream about having a boyfriend that would know how to let me feel like a woman when I am with him.

Deborah Kaye

06-28-2013, 05:22 AM

I fantasized about being with the wig shop owner as a woman with a man and found it exciting, though I didn't completely think through what the culmination would be like. Then, on a random visit I found his gorgeous wife minding the store one day. She knows of me and accepts me, at least as a steady visitor customer when her husband is minding the store. As I left, I was thinking, how could I ever compete for his attention with HER? Still, a stimulating subject, this thread.

CassandraSmith

06-28-2013, 10:43 AM

nethiker55

06-28-2013, 11:48 AM

As I am bi I am attracted to both sex although primarily to GG's. But I will say when dressed there is the added attraction to males I think to satisfy the desire to be accepted as a girl and for be act ****ty

iyzie

06-28-2013, 01:14 PM

To answer the original post...

I don't equate the "The Faceless Man Fantasy" with actual attraction or as having anything to do with my orientation. I think it's primarily some part of a light narcisism more than anything.

Before I transitioned I thought I only liked girls, but I did have a "faceless man" kind of attraction to guys in fantasizing about myself as a girl. At some point, I'm not sure if it was the hormones or changing my appearance or both, but I started being "actual attracted" to real-life guys all around me. Now I consider myself a straight woman, even though at the start of transition I totally thought I would be a lesbian.

sonna

06-28-2013, 01:42 PM

ya just bi..no matter how im dressed

Shananigans

06-28-2013, 01:45 PM

So, dressed as a girl=wants to have sex with boys...dressed as a boy=wants to have sex with girls.

What about the person that is in a stylish pantsuit and long, blonde wig? Fully bisexual?

I ask this as a full-time bisexual person. I'm just wondering what clothing items I need to put on to be straight...the gay community is chomping at the bit to know! Ah heck, who am I kidding?...I think I popped out of the womb bisexual when I was just wearing my birthday suit.

My theory is that a CD might be into men when he dresses up because a) he is insecure about his femininity and needs a man to validate it and/or b) he has a heterosexual mindset, so women have sex with men (and, this mindset continues even when the CD becomes the woman). I'd consider it more on the level of two fetishes being displayed and playing off of each other. It differs from sexuality in that your sexuality is something your born with...like gender. A MTF CD may be able to turn on and off his female gender, because he isn't really female on the inside. A CD that needs to validate his femininity may be into guys with the right skirt, but straight as an arrow when he takes off the skirt. In contrast, a MTF TS is female no matter she wears...a bisexual person is bisexual no matter what he or she wears.

Is it bad? No. Just one of those things. I just really get nervous when I commonly see CDs insinuating their bisexuality is a state of dress...it undermines what the overwhelming majority of the gay community feels and that is that we are born this way and we can't do anything to change ourselves. So, people should enjoy sex...enjoy what you're into...but, bisexuality is also a sexuality that is not ruled by clothing changes.

MysticLady

06-28-2013, 01:47 PM

I still want to dress but, if I start again I'm sure I would also start wanting to be with guys again. So for now I'm not dressing.

This I believe is lust. Lust is very powerful in this arena we call TG. It can make you believe anything. If you get all hot and bothered over yourself then you are going to want that attention from men because women will not see us that way. We want a woman but we'll settle for a man because a man will accept this because of his lust which could be because his love life is stagnant and wants the "lovey dovey" part that his hardline wife is not giving him. So he seeks something "different" to satisfy that want temporarily from another man that is dressed up beautiful and sensually attractive. I've experienced this because " I believe" from the lack of intimacy. Some men are extremely attractive but my vows to my wife is my anchor in me not perusing that attraction. Also my fluidity moves back to my male essence when I know they're men portraying this beauty.

LilSissyStevie

06-28-2013, 01:49 PM

I had the faceless man fantasy when I was a teenager. I thought it meant I was gay and "in denial." So after giving it serious thought I decided I was going to get honest with myself and find some "hot guy" to have sex with. The problem was that I immediately realized that I didn't have a clue what a "hot guy" looked like. I was only interested in one part. Not the guy it was attached to. You can attach those things to anybody.

Sissy_Michelle

06-28-2013, 02:24 PM

I dress only at home, so for me, its all about fantasy. But when I am dressed and feeling good about how I look, my fantasies are always about being with a man. Why would I want to identify as a woman and yet continue to think like a guy.

I have to agree with Nora_Joy to some extent. Though I don't really think about guys all the time, however my wife and I have spoken about "What would you do if?" When I was drunk a couple of times. It was fun to mess around with the idea, though I don't think it would ever happen.

It is a good fantasy though.
@--}---

TxKimberly

06-28-2013, 02:48 PM

Nope, and never understood how it could work that way for anyone. I see no reason for sexual preference to change just by the placing of a wig upon my head. . .

whowhatwhen

06-28-2013, 05:30 PM

Excellent insight!
I'd also wager that some men have desires of bottoming or being submissive, but are not attracted to men and thus don't fit into the gay category.
Unfortunately the way society is that is generally regarded as unacceptable and you could, in theory, have people who compartmentalize their male self to allow themselves to enjoy what society will not accept from them.

So I can sort of see a guy being used as a prop for his penis, I mean, there are tonnes of guys out there looking for a hookup yet there is likely going to be an immensely smaller amount of women looking for a straight bottom.

susan lewis

06-28-2013, 06:49 PM

It is amazing what happens to me when dressed. I feel totally feminine and that means I like the company of men. I could see myself living full time as a woman and dating and finally marrying a kind and handsome man.

Vicky_Scot

07-01-2013, 07:24 AM

Justify what?
It's not the man that's attracted to, it's the idea that a man (or woman, for that matter) is attracted to the way we present as women.

I don't think that is what is being asked by the OP.

I wonder how many of us, after we dress and put on the makeup and look good, switch gender preference.
I do. The last thing that goes on is the wig and then I'm out the door thinking about guys.
I wonder how many of us like guys when dressed.

It clearly asks how many of you switch gender preference when we dress.

This means if when not dressed you are attracted a woman and when dressed you then are attracted to men or vice aversa.

It also ends with and this is as clear as day what the question being asked is,

I wonder how many of us like guys when dressed.

All I was saying that if you are attracted to man when dressed I suggest that you are attracted to men when not dressed.

Justify what? Justify being attracted to men but saying its only when I dress and using your crossdressing as an excuse.

Because you crossdress it does not change your sexuality. Sexuality and gender are completely too different issues.

Anyway love and light to you all.

Lexi_83

07-08-2013, 03:09 PM

It's kind of funny...I love females who are more boyish and boys who are girly. I guess I am attracted to my fellow gender-benders. //Like it or not, when I dress androgynously as opposed to totally femme, a lot more women seem interested in me. Most men and women still don't know how to deal with anyone who doesn't conform to their gender ideals.

Alliegirl

07-08-2013, 06:11 PM

Well let me start by answering the OP's question: I like boys either way. I'm definitely bisexual. However when I'm dressed I really want guys, much more than normal.

Lemme ask this:
What kind of guys do you fantasize about?

Is it the hairless dude on the beach with perfect pecs?
A big, burly bear?
Femme?

It might be a fun exercise to try some introspection and try to understand why.
I'm not bashing on anyone who is only attracted to men while enfemme, I'm just curious if there are/how many parallels there are.

Societal conditioning may be partly responsible too, like the stereotype of girls always going for the big, tough, macho dude whereas I like guys who are a bit more feminine in appearance.
So when I was looking at big, tough-looking macho dudes and not feeling anything I was completely misleading myself by using that as a sole source.

The types of guys I'm into are similar to me. Tall, thin, hairless. I also like the muscle/jock types that are hairless. Femme guys are nice, but generally doesn't work since we both tend to be similar in what we are wanting. I don't know why that's what I like, but I am not into hair at all. So bears aren't my style. Swimmer/athletic builds are definitely the best.

When I am crossdressed I love the idea of a guy treating me like a hot girl...so I am attracted to the idea of being a guys girlfriend. Although I don't really think of a guy as hot I would be with a muscular one if i was being treated as a girl

I too love this idea. It would be awesome to find an easy going guy who wasn't pushy and enjoyed it as well. Unfortunately it seems hard to find in my area.

Excellent insight!
I'd also wager that some men have desires of bottoming or being submissive, but are not attracted to men and thus don't fit into the gay category.
Unfortunately the way society is that is generally regarded as unacceptable and you could, in theory, have people who compartmentalize their male self to allow themselves to enjoy what society will not accept from them.

So I can sort of see a guy being used as a prop for his penis, I mean, there are tonnes of guys out there looking for a hookup yet there is likely going to be an immensely smaller amount of women looking for a straight bottom.

Yeah some men are like that. I'm kind of like that, but am attracted (sexually) to men at times. But it's only really at home. In public I don't really pay attention or notice it. I also put out a straight appearance to most people (only 4-5 know I dress).

toni_62

07-08-2013, 06:16 PM

I understand that most MTF crossdressers are 100% heterosexual or claim to be. I do find that strange because at least for me I turn into a woman in my head. It's not just about the clothes. makeup, hair, etc. I do kind of change sexuality while dressed. Of course I do like just dressing for dressings sake. The thing is for most MTF crossdressers who are in the closet it's quite a lonely affair. I have been with three guys while dressed. Zero not dressed. There is no way I would be with a guy sexually while in guy mode. I have absolutely no desire for that. Yet I do get off knowing guys like the way I look when dolled up.

I also loved getting ready for a guy who was coming to see me. One of the main pluses is knowing that I'm actually going to be able to interact with someone while dressed. As soon as I'm dressed I want to do what women do sexually for guys. It's more about in my mind being a more complete woman. Taking what is in my head and the outside illusion as far as it can go. Hooking up with guys is very risky behavior even though I was very careful, and while I only did it the three times it was on my mind a lot. While never the most important part of my dressing it was great knowing should I choose I could totally immerse myself in that side of me. Did I mention I'm in therapy LOL.

Farrah

07-08-2013, 06:17 PM

Well, I think if you like guys dressed, you probably like guys not dressed. Its just easier to express when dressed. Its kind of like wearing a mask. A football player wouldn't hit a another guys but without that helmet/uniform on, unless he's Chad Johnson.

BLUE ORCHID

07-08-2013, 06:41 PM

Hi Cheryl, I have never thought about switching teams.

CDcutie3

07-08-2013, 11:22 PM

i am only 18 and when i get dressed i definitely think about boys. im also bi though so thats a constant for me. my boyfriend loves to see me all dressed up so i most def think about boys when im dressed. i love role playing with him. i dress up and play house wife. i feel its only natural to feel that way.

toni_62

07-09-2013, 12:56 PM

I don't think about guys while not dressed. I may have a messed up view of what being bisexual means, but bisexual to me means being sexually attracted to your own sex. I don't consider myself male while dressed. As a matter of fact I'm not sure I'm totally male to begin with.

Sure I can imagine myself dressed when not dressed and think about guys, but I can assure you guys don't turn me on at work or when I'm out and about not en femme. I never think of guys sexually unless I'm dressed.

Try and figure this out. When I'm dressed I become much less interested in women sexually. I'm not sure I would be nearly aroused by a woman while dressed in a sexual situation.

Renihoward

07-15-2013, 08:43 AM

When in drab I am only into girls. Don't think about guys at all. But when I get all dressed up, all I can think about is a tall, hard, man and what I'd like him to do to me.

danielletorresani

07-15-2013, 11:37 AM

Not sure how I feel about guys when dressed, but I'm definitely attracted to other CD's while dressed!

ruthie801

07-15-2013, 04:05 PM

When in drab I am only into girls. Don't think about guys at all. But when I get all dressed up, all I can think about is a tall, hard, man and what I'd like him to do to me.

I have been with guys as Ruthie a few times, they have done to me just what you think you want them to do to you. It is the feeling of being a woman, a true woman that is most desirable to us yet so many girls denie these feelings and urges.

Lacyfem

07-15-2013, 04:37 PM

I definitely am attracted to men when I dress and have found many men attracted to me as a woman. It's quite exciting as it's just an extension of my fem side to feel what a woman feels wanting to be attractive and desirable to men. I have had a few wonderful encounters with men when dressed and when not dressed I have no interest in men. Not sure what or how my brain switches on and off here as have searched for that answer for years with lots of confusing answers. Meanwhile nothing has changed in my feelings when I dress.

I had to take a look at your profile Ruthie as thought you looked so much like Helen Mirren... Noticed your profile pics are Helen... she is beautiful but it's a bit deceitful on your part as would love to see you as you sound so nice.

I have been with guys as Ruthie a few times, they have done to me just what you think you want them to do to you. It is the feeling of being a woman, a true woman that is most desirable to us yet so many girls denie these feelings and urges.

Lorileah

07-15-2013, 05:25 PM

what avatars and profile photos people use is their preference, it isn't deceit

whowhatwhen

07-15-2013, 06:23 PM

im confused
(lol)

Andrea Rain

07-15-2013, 06:23 PM

Certainly my attraction is to females/tgurls when dressed but I also find I have a soft spot for older men too.

DanielleT

07-15-2013, 07:35 PM

When I am dressed and in "girl" mode, I am all about guys. I have had some very pleasant experiences with men. I think for women like us, the true test of womanhood boils down to being a true woman and sharing ourselves with a man. I am Bi-sexual and while lesbian encounters with another woman, or TV, CD is fun, there is nothing that beats spending a night with a really cute guy

ArleneRaquel

07-15-2013, 07:37 PM

I'm gay but whem I'm enfemme the urge just explodes.

jayme357

07-15-2013, 09:39 PM

When I am dressed there is no issue. I am exactly what I present. In my mind I am a beautiful woman and my behavior reflects that attitude. I want t be loved.

Sandieland

07-15-2013, 10:39 PM

For me it's kind of like the movie "Victor, Victoria"... Julie Andrews plays a woman pretending to be a man who is pretending to be a woman who loves a man who thinks she's a man but is, well...on and on. It can get so darned complicated sometimes!

Ellie52

07-15-2013, 10:42 PM

I'm gay but whem I'm enfemme the urge just explodes.
Arlene you are just tooo much....lol
For me its only women.(except for Arlene) In guy mode I love women, en femme I love women (Am I a lesbian) Ellie

ReineD

07-15-2013, 10:48 PM

CherylFlint

07-15-2013, 11:20 PM

Dear Robyn2006,
Thank you for your comment, I agree with you totally.
Luv,
Cheryl

ErinSassyPants

07-16-2013, 01:12 AM

I think for women like us, the true test of womanhood boils down to being a true woman and sharing ourselves with a man.

I would like to put forth the crazy idea that there is no such thing as a "true" woman and if there was it would NOT be accomplished by her relationship to a man.

ArleneRaquel

07-16-2013, 01:16 AM

Ellie,
Thank your for the recognition, I deserve as much attention as I can garner.

CD Tammy

07-16-2013, 04:39 AM

When I'm in girl mode, I'm full out lesbian.

Paula DAngelo

07-16-2013, 06:46 AM

So far there are 38 definite nos and 76 positive responses ranging from definite yes to occasional yes "but only in fantasy", to "no attraction to men but just want to have sex with them" +?, to attracted to crossdressers only (who have male parts +?). There were also 30 ambiguous answers and discussion posts.

So the tally is:

No - 33%
Positive - 67%

I'm beginning to wonder if this is true. :p

As I was reading through the responses I was wondering the same thing, then I started thinking more about it and looked at some of the other statistics for this forum:

Members 27,829 Active Members 6,266 Number of replies stating a preference 114

That means that .4 percent of the members, or 1.8 percent of the active members replied stating a preference. I'm not sure that's enough of a sample to draw any type of conclusion. It could be that the question is only being answered by a small group that have an interest in the original assumption/question. Regardless of what we are seeing here, I can still believe that the majority of people CDing are heterosexual (even if I'm not one of them). Just my 2 cents worth.

linda allen

07-16-2013, 06:59 AM

what avatars and profile photos people use is their preference, it isn't deceit

I understand that you can't require people to use actual photos of themselves and even if you tried, you would have no way of enforcing it, but I think we often assume that the avatar photo is the actual person making the post and in some ways get a mental image of that person. I guess that's a mistake.

BTW: My avatar photo is me, in person, recently, in case anyone cares.

MysticLady

07-16-2013, 08:30 AM

I would like to put forth the crazy idea that there is no such thing as a "true" woman and if there was it would NOT be accomplished by her relationship to a man.

Spoken by a true GG. Interesting to me, the thoughts between and man and a woman. I suspect that men wanting to be with men is more of a lustful position versus a realization of true womanhood.:hiding: Sorry, just my thoughts.:outtahere:

Joy3

07-16-2013, 09:27 AM

When in drab I have absolutely no attraction to men! When dressed as a woman I must admit I look at men as sexual objects!

Sabrina133

07-16-2013, 10:39 AM

ReineD

07-16-2013, 10:42 AM

I'm not sure that's enough of a sample to draw any type of conclusion. It could be that the question is only being answered by a small group that have an interest in the original assumption/question. Regardless of what we are seeing here, I can still believe that the majority of people CDing are heterosexual (even if I'm not one of them). Just my 2 cents worth.

Good point, Paula! :)

NV Susan

07-16-2013, 12:08 PM

When en femme I am defiantly Bi. I've had 3 or 4 boyfriends over the years and 3 girlfriends and have enjoyed them all. I could never do anything with a guy while in guy mode, but when I'm en femme I enjoy being with a gentleman...

ruthie801

07-16-2013, 12:50 PM

I am sorry about the confusion about my avatar. it's just that due to my circumstances I can not post my own pictures. As I have stated in other post, Helen Mirren is my ideal as to what a woman should be. Since I am older (59) I can not see myself aspiring to be a 20 something starlite, but a mature beutiful woman is someone I can dream i could be. I do hope you all understand.

jill_cd_girl

07-16-2013, 01:08 PM

Hi all - it's been a long long time since I've visited this site and posted anything on this forum. I've thought about this question quite a bit and I think that the claim "if you're attracted to men while dressed, you're attracted to men while not dressed" isn't entirely accurate since it turns on how we understand 'attracted'. Here's what I've noticed (something I've talked about on my blog). I find that I'm viscerally attracted to women - I *notice* women, especially attractive women. Men? I don't really notice them much. The good looking men I do notice, I notice more in the way I may notice a nice house, or a nice car, etc. - it's purely like noticing a fact. With women, however, it's not just a noticing, but a noticing coupled with a sensual, desirous touch, which varies in degrees depending on how attractive I find the woman.

Now, with that said, when I'm dressed, I noticed that I found myself being "attracted" to men. But notice that I put that in scare quotes. The attraction towards men while I'm dressed is totally and completely distinct in its phenomenology. I am not attracted to them in the same way that I am attracted to women. After some serious thinking, I realized that the attraction is completely derivative and based on my own desire to look and feel like a woman. To have a man looking at me, desiring me lustfully, etc. turns me on only because it heightens my sense of 'being a woman' (i.e. feeling like a woman), and it's this heightened feeling of femininity that turns me on, not necessarily the man per se. So it's as if the man is the thing that could complete my transition to 'being a woman'.

This all personal so I am in no way suggesting that this is the case for everyone else. I've experimented with men before and certain things disgusted me and turned me off completely, while other things turned me on (the man staring at me, manhandling me from behind while I'm fully dressed, etc.)

So, for me, the man (this sounds bad) becomes more like a tool to heighten my sense of feeling like a woman, and that is what turns me on, not the man himself. The typical aesthetic qualities of a man (handsome, fit, etc.) do not directly turn me on at all, but only insofar as they accentuate my feeling feminine and like a sexy woman. The typical aesthetic qualities I find physically attractive in a woman (face, hair, nice legs, slender body, proportioned breasts, etc.) directly and immediately turn me on.

I think that my observations of my own experiences suggest that I'm not quite gay, since it seems that, at least from what I gather from my gay friends, that being gay means experiencing an attraction for the same sex in the way I experience towards members of the opposite sex.

mariehart

07-16-2013, 01:17 PM

I'm attracted to men dressed or not. But the important thing for me is that when dressed I feel they're attracted to me. This isn't always true. In fact for one man it was a positive turn off. But he was gay. What being dressed does so is to give me the licence to be myself fully as in female. No more pretence. As a man. I'm holding back, never allowing myself to completely express my female side. In fact that's why I often underdress. It's an attempt to free myself up a little.

While there are many completely straight crossdressers. I do believe some are not being completely straight (pun there) to themselves or their wives/SOs. My own experience leads me to believe many CDs are bi and can only really express it when dressed.

Which all just proves that people are complex creatures.

Oh and btw I do like the clothes too.

Edit: Having read Jill's post above I agree with much of it in my case except that being dressed doesn't change that. I too have found that my attraction to women is quite different to the attraction I have for men and I believe too that the way a gay man sees a man is different to what I see in a man. My own interpretation is that I see men the way women do. That's one of the reasons I have few male friends. Eventually I become attracted to them. This is awkward with straight men, needless to say and if he's gay, he's not looking for a woman.

Donna June

07-16-2013, 02:07 PM

Never been with a man, but have had desires (when dressed). Always thought that having a guy treat me like a lady, feeling his arms around me would be wonderful. Sometimes when dressed head to toes I want to feel and express femininity so much I think being with a man would bring me closer to my desire of womanhood....just been too scared to do it, so far

Sandieland

07-16-2013, 02:19 PM

OK, let's get definite about how I personally feel. I am bi-sexual but, as a male, I like gay, bi-sexual or straight men only for sex, not relationships. I like women for both. When dressed, for some reason I suddenly lose interest in gay men and find straight men exceptionally attractive...even though I know the chance of hooking up with a straight man is almost zero. Someone explain to me why I lose interest in gay men when dressed...I sure can't explain it.

ArleneRaquel

07-16-2013, 02:23 PM

My current Boy Friend considers himself starigh as have the majority of my male partners. They only inact when I'm "ArleneRaquel."

MysticLady

07-16-2013, 02:26 PM

Hi all - it's been a long long time since I've visited this site and posted anything on this forum.

WHERE in tarnation's have you been Girlie? We're glad you're back:hugs:

I am sorry about the confusion about my avatar. it's just that due to my circumstances I can not post my own pictures.

Don't worry Sweetie, I didn't even know about Helen. That avatar is you and I know you through her. :hugs:

I'm attracted to men dressed or not. But the important thing for me is that when dressed I feel they're attracted to me.

Food for the wolves, make sure you carry something to ward them off, like a flyswatter :heehee:

weyburn

07-16-2013, 09:38 PM

I most certainly like women but sometimes when dressed and only sometimes I would like to wear bra,garters and nylons and be with a man but if I found myself in that scenario not sure if I could do it so it will probably remain only an occaional fantasy

whowhatwhen

07-16-2013, 10:40 PM

I keep thinking about it a lot and it appears that I just can't think of myself in any sexual context as a man, it would explain quite a lot actually.
I'd say I'm in sort of a reverse to a lot of posts where I'm more interested in men but I'm still a bit curious about being with a woman though it's moot at the time being regardless.

Even so, finding a woman that's a top would be like an atom in a haystack kind of deal.

robindee36

07-17-2013, 12:07 PM

Personally, I have no attraction to men whether enfemme or otherwise. Now...another cross dresser is another story entirely. Just something we share, common experience, gender identity, not really sure. But there is a special relationship between 2 girls that GG's or men cannot match.

Suppose that makes me a lipstick lesbian, but I accept and embrace that.

Hugs.

mariehart

07-17-2013, 12:36 PM

My current Boy Friend considers himself starigh as have the majority of my male partners. They only inact when I'm "ArleneRaquel."The majority of men I met considered themselves straight because they are only attracted to you when you're dressed as a woman. Some absolutely refused to see me as a male. One even had a further stipulation. I had to smell female which I apparently did. Some would agree they were bi. This is an interesting phenomenon not much investigated.

ReineD

07-17-2013, 01:27 PM

The majority of men I met considered themselves straight because they are only attracted to you when you're dressed as a woman

...This is an interesting phenomenon not much investigated.

Here's an interesting experiment. Although no one knows what's inside of someone's pants, try to discern whether these men are attracted to post-op transsexuals. According to members in our TS section, on average they're not. Which means that ultimately they're attracted to the one thing that GGs don't have ... which doesn't exactly make them straight.

shy one

07-17-2013, 01:38 PM

its crossed my mind when i am dressed, if i feel happy about it then ya give it a try only can so no

krissy_toronto

07-17-2013, 04:50 PM

Erica Marie

07-17-2013, 04:51 PM

Sorry. I dont have an attraction to genetic males in either boy or girl mode. I guess that makes me a lesbian?

anneob2002

07-17-2013, 05:08 PM

I have never done anything with a guy but would consider one particular activity if the chance presented itself in the right way....

Beyond that, I have no desire to hug kiss or be 'taken' by a guy. Girls are too awesome, and soft, and well....womanly...

Alaina Ann

07-17-2013, 10:36 PM

Very interesting thoughts. I just love to be dressed and out among men. The flirting and having them come on to me is so very exciting. Having a man making love to me and treating me as a lady seems to be the pinnacle of cross dressing and being feminine.

MysticLady

07-18-2013, 12:02 AM

Some would agree they were bi. This is an interesting phenomenon not much investigated.

Marie, I speak as one, Men want to satisfy a fire. This fire, is overbearing. Beauty is a major factor in helping w/ quenching it. If a man has had his full of what a woman offers, then to enhance the fire, we may seek "a difference" in a sexual fantasy. A beautiful GG, just doesn't cut it anymore. But, it wouldn't be Lovemaking, it would just be lustful sex IMHO.

. Which means that ultimately they're attracted to the one thing that GGs don't have ... which doesn't exactly make them straight.

Like I said Reine, A Difference.

Beyond that, I have no desire to hug kiss or be 'taken' by a guy. Girls are too awesome, and soft, and well....womanly...

I'm afraid I must agree, at least for me. I cannot give myself completely to a man.

Very interesting thoughts. I just love to be dressed and out among men.

Yes, it's very interesting to see this, I actually see.........myself, when I was a youngen. :heehee:

Girl

07-18-2013, 03:09 AM

Having a man making love to me and treating me as a lady seems to be the pinnacle of cross dressing and being feminine.
Totally agree, Alaina! For me, this is pink heaven! :)

TonyaV

07-18-2013, 03:22 AM

Been there, done that. However, I personally enjoy the company, feel, and (fill in the blank) of other CD's.

Toni in nz

07-18-2013, 05:45 AM

oooo no way I'm Straight out lesbian however if it did come up to my attention I could be a bit deviant but no kissing :-)

mariehart

07-18-2013, 06:58 AM

Here's an interesting experiment. Although no one knows what's inside of someone's pants, try to discern whether these men are attracted to post-op transsexuals. According to members in our TS section, on average they're not. Which means that ultimately they're attracted to the one thing that GGs don't have ... which doesn't exactly make them straight.What's interesting, is that a couple made no attempt to see or touch me down there. Which suits me as I didn't want them to anyway. But like most men they were interested in what I could do for them. I didn't really understand that. Others of course were more interested.

Maybe this is the answer:
Marie, I speak as one, Men want to satisfy a fire. This fire, is overbearing. Beauty is a major factor in helping w/ quenching it. If a man has had his full of what a woman offers, then to enhance the fire, we may seek "a difference" in a sexual fantasy. A beautiful GG, just doesn't cut it anymore. But, it wouldn't be Lovemaking, it would just be lustful sex IMHO.We can tied ourselves in knots trying to understand the nuances of human sexuality. But I gave up on that a while ago. Now I just run with it. I do think it's fair to say that most men are most interested in their own pleasure and their own penis. Not exactly a revelation!

ReineD

07-18-2013, 08:37 AM

I do think it's fair to say that most men are most interested in their own pleasure and their own penis. Not exactly a revelation!

Right!

And there's even an article in last Sunday's NYT that reveals this holds true for both genders now. Women (at least college women) are just as interested in sex (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/14/fashion/sex-on-campus-she-can-play-that-game-too.html?_r=0), and separate emotion from sex as do men! :)

At any rate, if women were to specifically seek FtMs, I wouldn't say they were exactly straight just as I don't consider straight the men who specifically seek MtFs. My SO and I have been to many T-bars and really the admirers are in a class of their own. I don't at all get the same vibe from them as I do from men who are interested in GGs. In fact, one late night my SO and I went out with a handful of TGs after the support group meeting, to a LGBT bar. I'm tall plus I was wearing stilettos, so I was hit on by an admirer who I'm sure took me to be a CD. Let me tell you that a sure-fire way to get these guys away from you is to tell them you're a GG! :p

You should read this excerpt from the author, Dr. Richard Novik (Alice in Genderland (http://www.amazon.com/Alice-Genderland-Crossdresser-Comes-Age/dp/0595315623)) who has been on the scene for years:

Men Who Might Be Interested (http://aliceingenderland.com/menwhomightbeinterested.html) - Alice Novik

Janet77

07-18-2013, 08:58 AM

When I am crossdressed I love the idea of a guy treating me like a hot girl...l

Me too....Also attracted to pretty TVs, whether I am dressed or not.

cdliz15

07-18-2013, 10:07 AM

I'm only attracted women and other cd's. But since I like to wear gowns, I have thought about going on a romantic date with a man. Some fine dining, slow dancing, and maybe even a goodnight kiss. The man would obviously be a gentleman, a real prince charming. But it's just a fantasy, if push came to shove, I don't know if I could go through with it.

AmandaM

07-18-2013, 02:34 PM

Right!
You should read this excerpt from the author, Dr. Richard Novik (Alice in Genderland (http://www.amazon.com/Alice-Genderland-Crossdresser-Comes-Age/dp/0595315623)) who has been on the scene for years:
Men Who Might Be Interested (http://aliceingenderland.com/menwhomightbeinterested.html) - Alice Novik

A good case for three worlds that sometimes intersect: straight, gay, trans.

DarciB

07-18-2013, 03:49 PM

I'm bi-sexual, but I really prefer men and I have had several very rewarding experiences while dating men

sherri

07-18-2013, 08:52 PM

I don't switch gender preference when I'm femme, I expand it to include both sexes -- or all three sexes if you count TGs separately. I like to say women are my native tongue and men are my second language. And think what you will, the interest in men as lovers evaporates when I'm not in femme mode. It's very real, I assure you.

Like others have noted, however, as a feminine person I do not relate to men as instinctively and on all levels the way I do with women. In fact, the interest seems to be fairly narrow, although I sometimes think that is only because I have not spent time with a man with whom I felt a great deal of chemistry, or had anything resembling a bona fide relationship. Shoulda started way earlier, I guess. It's something I would love to explore, but only -- and I mean only -- as a gurl.

Obviously it is very common for a crossdresser to experience certain curiosities about men, whether that be a newfound sexual urge or simply a desire for male company -- or as some have said, a desire for a more complete experience as a woman. I would like to interject one thing however, especially for the newbies -- there can be a few surprises in store. In other words, the reality does not always match the fantasy. For one thing, the lower forms of the species can be incredibly thoughtless and crude, so you may have to kiss a few frogs before you find a prince. IF you find a prince. And too, if you ever decide to do the wild thang with a guy, you should pay close attention to how and what you're feeling during the experience. If it's everything you'd dreamed, then quit analyzing it and enjoy it for what it is. And if it doesn't really push your buttons, then be honest with yourself about that too.

Personally, I've come to the conclusion that while I might have an order of preference, I really don't care whether the SO is a man, woman or TG, I would just like the opportunity to experience an ongoing, meaningful relationship with another person as a femme. And whoever and whatever that person might be, there needs to be way more than sex to keep it going. Being able to carry on a decent conversation about something other than my underwear or his you-know-what would be a start.

TonyaV

07-18-2013, 08:55 PM

Very well said Sherri.

tvfaye

07-19-2013, 02:08 AM

My preference remains the same whether dressed or not, what does seem to change is how the other person treats you when femme.

Teddie

07-19-2013, 03:10 AM

Nope. I'm a lesbian when dressed.

seanmuscle

07-19-2013, 01:48 PM

Right!

And there's even an article in last Sunday's NYT that reveals this holds true for both genders now. Women (at least college women) are just as interested in sex (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/14/fashion/sex-on-campus-she-can-play-that-game-too.html?_r=0), and separate emotion from sex as do men! :)

At any rate, if women were to specifically seek FtMs, I wouldn't say they were exactly straight just as I don't consider straight the men who specifically seek MtFs. My SO and I have been to many T-bars and really the admirers are in a class of their own. I don't at all get the same vibe from them as I do from men who are interested in GGs. In fact, one late night my SO and I went out with a handful of TGs after the support group meeting, to a LGBT bar. I'm tall plus I was wearing stilettos, so I was hit on by an admirer who I'm sure took me to be a CD. Let me tell you that a sure-fire way to get these guys away from you is to tell them you're a GG! :p

You should read this excerpt from the author, Dr. Richard Novik (Alice in Genderland (http://www.amazon.com/Alice-Genderland-Crossdresser-Comes-Age/dp/0595315623)) who has been on the scene for years:

Men Who Might Be Interested (http://aliceingenderland.com/menwhomightbeinterested.html) - Alice Novik

I have been trying to convince you for 3 years but you dont listen. Always try put a spin to favor your opinion. But you can see from this poll most CDs like and enjoy a man. Its part of being a woman. And I am not a creepy admirer. I wear a suit and tie and treat a lady right.....GG and CDs. But keep in mind I prefer CDs that are the same size, shape as a GG. Ones that look passable. I am not into men at all.

ErinSassyPants

07-19-2013, 02:10 PM

But you can see from this poll most CDs like and enjoy a man. Its part of being a woman. And I am not a creepy admirer. I wear a suit and tie and treat a lady right.....GG and CDs. But keep in mind I prefer CDs that are the same size, shape as a GG. Ones that look passable. I am not into men at all.

Let me say this really clearly. Being a woman has NOT ONE SINGLE THING to do with men. NOT ONE SINGLE THING. I know that many women find a sense of being more feminine in relationship to men but that is their personal dynamic and feeling. Men are NO part of *Being a woman* Being a woman is about BEING A WOMAN which includes ONE thing. Just one, being a woman. That's all. You are a woman then you ARE a woman. You don't need a man, many women spend their whole lives being "true" woman without ever being with a man. You don't need to DO anything to be a woman, your womanhood does not depend on anyone else. You don't have to be with anyone, you don't have to have sex with anyone, you don't even have to have anyone else in the universe know you are a woman to be a woman. You just are. It is your birth right, you are born that way even if you don't like men, even if you have a penis, even if you can't have children, even if you aren't pretty. Being a woman is in your heart and soul not in anything outside of you.

In the same way that being with a man is irrelevant to being a woman a suit and tie are irrelevant to being or not being creepy. Is there some sort of check at the suit and tie store where they verify you're not a creep before they sell you stuff? Because they are not doing their job! I've seen tons of pictures of Clarence Thomas in a suite and tie and OJ wore suit and tie all through his trial...as did I'm sure the Nightstalker and Ted Bundy. Just to name a few.

CherylFlint

07-19-2013, 04:29 PM

Hold your horses and calm down a little bit.
It’s was just a simple question. Each of us is different and I just wondered how many of us get turned-on by the whole idea of REALLY being a women, even if it’s just for a few hours on a weekend, and hook-up with a guy and have fun.
I’m not talking about cramps or having a miscarriage.
Actually, one real girl said it best when she said of CDers, “They have all the fun with none of the problems”.
One “problem” that I can think of is getting pregnant, passing a watermelon, and raising a child for 18 years.
This blog is supposed to be kind of fun. We’re all actors playing the role of a female, that’s it, and some of us take it to different levels, that’s all.
It’s all about fun and relaxing so we all don’t go bonkers.

ErinSassyPants

07-19-2013, 05:27 PM

Cheryl,

I thought your question was totally interesting and valid.

My issue is not with people desiring to be with men(I certainly have a deep understanding of wanting men) my issue with the idea of a woman's (or someone presenting as a woman) value being based on their connection to men.

The CD who has no interest in men while dressed is just as valid as the CD who has an interest in men while dressed. The woman (GG or TS) is not defined by her relationship to a man. I think it's important that this is mentioned, I would hate for there to be someone who felt they were less feminine because they were not attracted to men (or attractive to men) while dressed. Does that make sense?

ReineD

07-20-2013, 11:41 AM

But keep in mind I prefer CDs that are the same size, shape as a GG. Ones that look passable.

You're proving my point! :D

toni_62

07-20-2013, 01:17 PM

For me I can tell I'm not truly bisexual because I don't find kissing a man very pleasant. That's not to say I avoid it. I want to like it while dressed, but so far all I feel is strange. A very muscular guy or say biker type does not excite me anymore than just a regular guy while when I'm dressed. Male parts do though and it's size and shape. I go to work everyday at a university and there are buff young guys and beautiful young women everywhere.

I don't look at men in a sexual way. I could never look at my co-workers they are all men in a sexual way. Yet I constantly notice the young women on campus. I look at them sexually and at the same time I'm envious as in I wish I could look like that good. I am attracted to CDs who look from halfway passable to passable maybe preferring those who still have a masculine look.

whowhatwhen

07-20-2013, 10:14 PM

I have been trying to convince you for 3 years but you dont listen. Always try put a spin to favor your opinion. But you can see from this poll most CDs like and enjoy a man. Its part of being a woman. And I am not a creepy admirer. I wear a suit and tie and treat a lady right.....GG and CDs. But keep in mind I prefer CDs that are the same size, shape as a GG. Ones that look passable. I am not into men at all.

Let me ask you this in all seriousness...
Are you fulfilling their needs as well? I mean not all CDs are going to be bottoms.......

But yeah I'll have to disagree about the part about being a woman, femininity isn't tied to sex.

Taylor Ray

07-20-2013, 11:03 PM

Yes, I love to get dolled up on a weekend night, invite a guy over, and give him an oral rendition of "A Midsummer Night's Dream". If things really heat up, I enjoy quoting Freud and debating his theory of the difference between stages. Until fully embracing his theory on the "anal stage" of development, I never really felt fully "a woman".

But that's just me.

Connie.Marie

07-20-2013, 11:52 PM

Not me. When I'm dressed I'm still looking at all the other women. Of course I'm not just looking at how cute & curvy they are. I'm also noticing their hair style, their clothes, their jewelry, their shoes.. :battingeyelashes:

GBJoker

07-21-2013, 05:36 AM

Doesn't seem to happen for me. Of course, I think about guys enough as it is already. :p

Mollyanne

07-21-2013, 05:48 AM

Whenever I am totally dressed (which btw is never enough) I do think about being with a man. I have had a few encounters and found them to be pleasurable and rewarding. Does that mean that I'm gay??? Maybe, maybe not, but how can I be gay when I am dressed as a woman and feel like a woman to a degree. Should the opportunity arise and I find myself with a GG then I would be considered a lesbian (not bad though). Soto answer the posted question, YES, I THINK ABOUT GUYS WHEN I AM DRESSED!!!!!!!

Molly

Robyn2006

07-27-2013, 03:50 PM

When I am dressed there is no issue. I am exactly what I present. In my mind I am a beautiful woman and my behavior reflects that attitude. I want t be loved.

Perfectly said! How this is not the case for all has always baffled me! :sad:

Leona

07-27-2013, 05:21 PM

Let me say this really clearly. Being a woman has NOT ONE SINGLE THING to do with men. NOT ONE SINGLE THING. I know that many women find a sense of being more feminine in relationship to men but that is their personal dynamic and feeling. Men are NO part of *Being a woman* Being a woman is about BEING A WOMAN which includes ONE thing. Just one, being a woman. That's all. You are a woman then you ARE a woman. You don't need a man, many women spend their whole lives being "true" woman without ever being with a man. You don't need to DO anything to be a woman, your womanhood does not depend on anyone else. You don't have to be with anyone, you don't have to have sex with anyone, you don't even have to have anyone else in the universe know you are a woman to be a woman. You just are. It is your birth right, you are born that way even if you don't like men, even if you have a penis, even if you can't have children, even if you aren't pretty. Being a woman is in your heart and soul not in anything outside of you.

I loved this so much I quoted it on facebook. I attributed it to "Erin".

I have been trying to convince you for 3 years but you dont listen. Always try put a spin to favor your opinion. But you can see from this poll most CDs like and enjoy a man. Its part of being a woman. And I am not a creepy admirer. I wear a suit and tie and treat a lady right.....GG and CDs. But keep in mind I prefer CDs that are the same size, shape as a GG. Ones that look passable. I am not into men at all.

So, my lesbian daughter can't grow up to be a woman, since being with a man is part of being a woman?

ErinSassyPants

07-27-2013, 05:57 PM

Leona, Thank you :)

Dawn

07-27-2013, 06:11 PM

As for me....I'm attracted to GG's, TG women and other CD'ers when dressed. Regular men don't do anything for me at all. The beauty of women in all forms will always be quite a turn on for me.

Dawn

Wildaboutheels

07-27-2013, 06:49 PM

Our BRAINS are quite capable of all kinds of gymnastic feats to help us cope with things we can't or won't admit to ourselves. NGCs Brain Games has pointed this out over and over and over in numerous ways.

This thread certainly gives the "appearance" that for at least S O M E members here, they may have started dressing/are full dressers/need to pass in order to be able to justify their lean to the Bi side. And IF that is the case...so what.

Humans CANNOT control who and what they are attracted to. The evidence for this is overwhelming. People claiming otherwise are not going to change the Facts.

whowhatwhen

07-31-2013, 02:20 AM

Interestingly enough, over the past few months I've noticed that I'm becoming more attracted to guys and in a different way.
The tingly feeling happens in my heart instead of my pants, well... that too I guess :P

For me it's gone something like:
No way->Okay, maybe some rarely->Only the hottest guys.

Only now adding in -> He's kinda cute, I wonder what he's like :)

The attraction has started budding on a different level, weird stuff eh?
It's like there is a second "boyfriend material" metric that's just been added or something.
:P

I guess the takeaway is "never say never".

kellibra

09-30-2013, 06:42 PM

since kelly has started to emerge, i am more comfortable with the woman within me that has always been suppressed and i am coming to terms with the fact that i feel i should have been born a girl. i am quite happy as a male but deep down, i so long for all emotions and things feminine.
sexually i often joke i would have been a lesbian as i love girlie girls and want to be one. i cannot take my eyes off a beautiful seductive woman in the street for example as i imagine what it would be like to be her and experience sex as she naturally would.
so as i dress more and more 'completely' and often, though not out yet, i have noticed lately that i look at men differently. while still not interested in them and much less 'being' with one, there is something about 'being a girl with a guy' that is nonetheless exciting. maybe it is a fantasy all girls feel at some point in their lives as they begin to discover their sexuality as a teen, but i this one i am interested in experiencing.

SabrinaWTG

09-30-2013, 06:44 PM

I'm with you Cheryl, I'm not at all interested in guys when in boy mode, but when I'm in girl mode I am very bisexual. :)

Kelliramerez

09-30-2013, 06:49 PM

I have to admit I've always been attracted to men. I've never had the courage to act out on these feelings, mostly my upbringing. : ) I believe I was 8 when I knew I wanted to be a "girl" that I should have been born a girl. To be able to experience being with a man as a woman would be wonderful as far as I'm concerned. Who knows maybe someday : )

DaniellaNYC

09-30-2013, 07:57 PM

I guess the takeaway is "never say never".

yeah, preferences can evolve, some people can adapt...

Dalva

10-01-2013, 12:55 AM

Even though I have had male/male sexual encounters (never en femme) I prefer the company of other cross dressers. I'm attracted to girls like me.

cdkateinboston

10-01-2013, 04:57 AM

As for me....I'm attracted to GG's, TG women and other CD'ers when dressed. Regular men don't do anything for me at all. The beauty of women in all forms will always be quite a turn on for me.

Dawn

Pretty well sums up how I feel. Although I have never been with anyone other then a GG, I can find myself attracted to a pretty CD

MMollyB88

10-01-2013, 11:59 AM

I am bisexual whether I am in my girl persona/alter ego or not. I definitely become more sensual when I am a girl, however, and take on more of a liking to guys than when I am in drab. I start to talk about them more, think about them more, desire to be around one at that moment more lol, etc. I also have the urge to be "taken care of" by a guy like most girls do...in many ways lol. I tend to be the submissive type of girl..also in many ways. :)

Caitlin_85

10-04-2013, 07:08 PM

None of the people I know seem to understand. I don't like men, neither physically or romantically, however, I like being a woman and having sex with a man REALLY makes me feel like I'm a woman. I could only be in love with a woman and I'm only attracted to women but I have sex with men to intensify my fantasy of being a woman.

I totally get what you are saying and I'm the same way I believe...I love women so much...all the curves and softness and beauty. I do not find the male body attractive at all. I am always noticing attractive girls when out in public, never men. But I do have the occasional fantasy of having sex with a man while dressed...but there's nothing romantic about it as it's the faceless man that some have mentioned. It's more to just intensify the feeling of being a girl.

Sarasometimes

10-05-2013, 02:37 PM

Still only interested in women! I'm so happy that women can find males attractive, cause I can't figure out why. Someone asked if we are lesbians if when dressed we like women. The two are separate traits, gender expression and sexual attraction/orientation. My therapist once mentioned that there many transitioned women who date GG's. We all run the gambit of every variety.

Victoriana

10-06-2013, 11:42 AM

I am so conflicted about this question. When I was dressed to the nine's as they say, sitting there bored because I can rarely go out (although I have gone out a couple times to wig shops or whatever), I tend to think of men. There is only so much you can do crossdressing and staying in! Think of make up, going out, this forum...then why not men too! So yeah, yet another reason why I need to quit. If I am in male mode I have no attraction to men at all. Don't look at them, don't care. Dressed, different story but not sure I would follow through. So, everyone if different.

Allison Quinn

10-06-2013, 11:45 AM

I'm not into men o3o
I can find them attractive sure n_n but unless my girlfriend decides to become one I will not be dating one xP

nancy123cd

10-13-2013, 11:48 AM

I agree. I'm only into women, but having a man flirt with me would be exciting!

CDSamantha

10-13-2013, 03:18 PM

Cheryl,

I too am attracted to men when I dress. I love the feeling of being a woman, at least in his eyes, and reacting to his advances just as any other woman would.

Samantha Anne

suspender

10-13-2013, 04:35 PM

For me its a situational thing. When I began this journey a long time ago, guys were definitely out of my mind. After venturing out into the world as semi and fully dressed I found the company of women and other CDs less threatening. It dawned on me about three years ago that some guys just like CDs. I would never pass given my physical features, however, in a bar/restaurant one evening a guy shouted me a drink and began to chat about nothing in general. Eventually it got on to how long I had been a CD and that he liked CD's. I enjoy being flattered when dressed but that is as far as I take it. It is difficult enough to walk into a public area dressed and to engage with people in conversation, as that is the part that exhilarates me without the judgement or some form of twisted lust directed toward me from another soul. The tolerance in the world of different people is what fascinates me, and I have become part of that. I have come across the spectrum of those that despise us and would want to harm and those that lust over anything in a skirt. Those in between (men and women) that accept and engage without expectation is what keeps me going in this sense. Both genders a fine providing they keep their hands to themselves!

ryenmatt

10-13-2013, 08:15 PM

nope. still into women even when i am "dressed"

KateSpade83

10-13-2013, 08:20 PM

I don't get attracted to men if I wear womens clothes. I've gone out dressed to many places and passed so well that sometimes lesbians and men hit on me. But I would never have gay sex with a man because I think God thinks that's an abomination. If I ever need that kind of action I'd just have role reversal sex WITH A WOMAN.

ME2.0

10-13-2013, 08:37 PM

Just kinda putting on my psycologist's hat here, but maybe it isn't so much a sexual satisfaction we're trying to meet as it is an approval satisfaction. If a guy is interested in us at that raw of an emotion, our ego feels good because we had that kind of a reaction on someone, anyone. Most of us don't get a huge sexual rush out of our relationships anymore because things have calmed down over years of marriage, or even weeks of a new relationship, so the thought of someone (anyone) having such a deep passionate primal emotion for us is a huge boost to our ego.

We may be valuing our ego over our sexual desires. We may be willing for a few fleeting moments to exchange our sexual identity for an ego boost, and mentally think it's a fair trade even if it's a guy. Kind of a "what do I value more" kind of deal.

Just my opinions,

Hugs,
Staci

Mink

10-13-2013, 11:38 PM

But I would never have gay sex with a man because I think God thinks that's an abomination.

what the heck?!

yeah and i'm sure crossdressing is too!

ha!

Jennifer Kelly

10-13-2013, 11:50 PM

Yeah probably.

I agree with the part about role reversal sex with a woman, but that's because I'm not into dudes, even when dressed, not because a book written 2000 years ago says sex with another guy is bad.

If you like other guys when you're dressed, cool. If you don't that's cool too.

Diane Lynn

10-14-2013, 12:20 AM

I am a woman, with the wrong plumbing. I want that first kiss from a man that kisses because he wants to. Treats me like the lady that I am. Dance with a man, holding me tight against his body. Yes, I want all of that.

FoxxxyBri

10-14-2013, 12:43 AM

I know a TG who does. She likes boys and girls as a female and just females as a boy.

I only like females and TG's whether dressed or not.

esther22

10-25-2013, 05:02 PM

I agree with you totally. Esther

dawnmarrie1961

10-25-2013, 05:17 PM

I can "Like" guys without thinking about sleeping with them. Unfortunately they all seem to this that "This" is for them. And it's not. It's for "Me." I get a little confused when people start talking about heterosexual, homosexual, bi-sexual and all the other X-uals! Mostly because everybody has some pretty broad definitions about what each one is all about! Just like the spectrum of the transgendered the spectrum of human sexuality just goes on and on in all kind of strange directions!

Lori Kurtz

10-25-2013, 05:24 PM

For me it was never quite so much a matter of being attracted to males while dressed up. It was more a matter of feeling (or hoping, or wishing, whatever ...) that males were attracted to the female that I had temporarily become. I never seriously considered having an actual real-life sexual experience with anybody while dressed up, though--it was totally a sort of a fantasy thing.

Xandra

10-26-2013, 06:48 AM

It is definately a fantasy. I am sure I'd be nervous!

Violet-13

10-26-2013, 06:53 AM

No I only have eyes for one person and that's ,my current Girl Friend

Lexi Moralas

10-26-2013, 08:42 AM

My answer to this is kinda of odd. I love getting attention from guys ,being checked out ect. I may even flirt a little in the right situation. But definitely no farther than that , I have no desire to actually be with a guy while dressed , or with any one else for that matter. I like woman , well just one actually , untill death do us part. But that's in guy mode. Lexi loves to be sexy , but has no interest in being sexual. Crazy right ? Lol

Pandys

10-26-2013, 09:05 AM

Only when Dressed am I attracted to men and like to dress for them.

Judith96a

10-26-2013, 10:07 AM

Nope, not me, no interest in men at all (nasty, brutish, smelly things - oops nearly forgot, under all this I AM one! - too bad!)

brinda_cd

10-29-2013, 04:21 AM

I would love be with a man in fem. I just have to find one:D

monalisa

10-29-2013, 08:28 AM

What might be just as interesting would be a comparison of guys who would be interested in a crossdresser yet say they are totally straight. I think we all have fantasies which are good and healthy and some act on them and some don't. It is up to each person to do what they want or what excites them.

Annaliese

10-29-2013, 08:52 AM

Liking boys as a girl, yes, when I am out I find my self looking at the guys, I look at the girls also but it's looking at what they are wearing (oh I like that or no, that does not work).

DanielleJean

10-30-2013, 11:10 AM

I'm working through this right now. Up until recently it was girls only, whether I was presenting as a female or not. Recently, things seem to have changed when I'm presenting female. There is this guy, working at the one store where I shop, who I've become friends with over the last several months. The last few times we've been together we have had some hot make out sessions. We haven't gone any further than kissing and intimate touching. Not sure how far it will go but I like it a lot. When I'm in boy mode no way, but in girl mode, wow.

Not sure what's going on, going to enjoy while I figure it out. Any advice is welcome.

Thanks
Danielle

Karen kc

10-30-2013, 12:19 PM

not me, just women and their clothes

Andreaxxx420

10-30-2013, 01:29 PM

I don't want to admit it. But I find guys attractive when I am in fem. I have never told any friends about my cd no one knows about it.

But if the right good looking guy came along. I would gladly let him show me off.

Xoxo

chrissy111

10-30-2013, 06:54 PM

No, only one woman in my life (oops I mean 2). Have no interest in men.

Girl

11-07-2013, 02:53 PM

Hi Danielle, my advise is carry on enjoying yourself! He sounds like a really cute guy and you're both having a lot of fun. :)

LelaK

11-07-2013, 03:22 PM

I'm only attracted to hot women, and that includes all you lovely ladies here.

DanielleT

11-07-2013, 07:41 PM

When I am in girl mode, I am all about guys, have been with several...........way fun!

CDSamantha

11-07-2013, 09:32 PM

Robyn,

You make an excellent point. If we are trying to be like women, it would be understandable to like men when we are dressed.

I know that I want to be with a man when I am trying to be a woman.

Thanks for your insight.

Samantha Anne

JuliaM

11-07-2013, 10:22 PM

Its all about the guys when I'm in girl mode. I've been with a man as a guy and enjoyed it immensely. Hope to experience it again as Julia!

julie marie1

11-07-2013, 11:55 PM

I do not switch gender preferences when I am dressed. However, I would enjoy the opportunity to go out one a date (dinner and dancing (I am not much of a dancer, but if I don't have to take the lead I might do fine)) en fem.
It would be the rare man howeever that would be able to treat a women (me) with respect knowing that it is just for fun.

Girl

11-08-2013, 12:04 AM

When I am in girl mode, I am all about guys, have been with several...........way fun!

Totally agree! It is so much fun to be with a guy in girl mode! :)

jenni_xx

11-08-2013, 04:05 AM

I haven't read the entire thread (I can't even remember if I've posted on it before without checking), so apologies if this has been raised before.

But I'm intrigued about those who only say they are attracted to guys while in "girl mode". Is this a genuine attraction to guys that you have, or is it just part of a fantasy - using the guy as a "prop" so to speak in order to feel more feminine about yourselves?

If there is a genuine attraction, then surely you'd be attracted to guys whether you are in male or female "mode"? If it's not a genuine attraction, more of a fantasy that enables you to feel more feminine, then considering that you most probably think about your cding while not actually cding, as in say daydreaming for example, do you also think about being with a guy at such times also?

I do think that sexuality can often be fluid, rarely would a person rank 100% heterosexual or 100% homosexual. I think sexuality is more akin to a preference, and for those who identify as heterosexual, the idea of being with a man just doesn't enter their thought process. That's not to say it would never happen - given the right circumstance, or a particular moment in your life, I think a lot of people could be at least tempted (but then such a circumstance may never occur). But here we have a number of people who are actively/consciously giving serious consideration to the idea of being with a man, under the right circumstance (i.e. dressed en femme), and are turned on by the possibility. That surely must push your own sexuality closer to being identified as bisexual than heterosexual? Even if you are of the opinion that you are "using" a man merely as a prop in order to gain a heightened sense of femininity (and it's that that you are actually craving), then acting on that would mean that you would be living an active bisexual lifestyle, even though you may identify yourself as being heterosexual.

I do suspect that for a lot of you, it is and will probably remain just a fantasy. And you're quite happy with that. But reading the replies, it just got me thinking (hence why I ask the questions above).