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[MysticLady]

Hello all.

I just wanted to say Hello and hope things are well w/ you. I'm believe that we share the same "stuff" regarding this phenomenon we share in life. I'm interested in hearing your stories. I wonder if there's a difference between (MtF and FtM) feelings during this time. Being a man that enjoys his femininity , I experience a softer, more understanding, caring sensation. I enjoy it tremendously. Since I am a man I also have duties and responsibilities as one and am able to fluid myself between both as needed. Is it the same or different for you? Do you believe, being a GG gives you an advantage or a setback experiencing this change? Please tell me your story.

[mistunderstood]

I have to think about your question. I promise to answer.

[Andy66]

Thanks for asking, Victoria. It sounds like Im pretty much a reverse image of you. I feel mostly the same way as you do, but with the genders switched, if that makes any sense. And I dont know which has an advantage, genetic females or males. Seems we both have our share of battles.

[MysticLady]

Seems we both have our share of battles.

Ain't that the truth(I know, ain't , ain't a word:heehee:)

[mistunderstood]

I guess for me the only set back is my out side doe's not match the inside. The things I like to do can be done by both genders. I do have things that are hard to deal with sometimes.

[MysticLady]

Thank You Aaron for your response. May I ask, does the need to dress as a man comfort your feelings or is this not an issue?

[mary something]

Aaron if I can also ask a question, I wonder how you feel when you are perceived as a man by others if that is something you have experienced yet.

[mistunderstood]

When I used to wear girl clothes i was not comfortable at all it did not matter if it was pants or t-shirts. I dress full time and get sir'ed all the time. Dressing doe's help with when feeling's are at a low for me. I pass about 80% of the time and when I do not pass i act like I did not hear what the person said.

[mary something]

Aaron, I was wondering if you could describe how you came to understand yourself as ftm transsexual? Were you ever confused about your gender?

[mistunderstood]

I use FtM but really to be honest I consider my-self male. When I was around 4-5 and learned the difference between Male and female I still held the belief I was male. The only confusion I really had was in sexual preference. I did not know in the beginning about female Cd'ers let alone trans anything.

[MysticLady]

Anybody else other than Aaron? Please don't be afraid. Believe it or not, I suspect that this is a masculine trait. NO FEAR.:D

[mistunderstood]

I know this might sound odd but I believe in women rights. Not just genetic women but trans women to. Lot of people think that is odd coming from some one who wants to change there gender from female to male. Some times this creates confusion for me. I will admit I like to look at certain things on women yet when I do I have the thought that go's through my head that tells me that women are not a piece of meat and she has a brain to. I do not know if any one else has this thought but I do and it drives me crazy.

[MysticLady]

Aaron, I believe that is desire becomes tamed over time. I remember my youngen days. I was a pig(as some girlfriends would call me). I had a fire that was beyond control. I wanted.....period. Over time, it had become boring because of the disconnected feeling I would have w/ them. So I decided to find a mate and get married. My point is that sexual desire is a huge part of us and sometimes it's hell on wheels. It's a part of us just like any thing else. You'll mature over time into realizing that is not what life is all about, It's only a part of it just like crossdressing. Hang in there. What help me was seeing the emotional strain that I put on them and I didn't like it.

[mistunderstood]

I think what I was trying to say is sometimes being 2 gender creates conflict. I am male but there is still a little part of my brain female. I am not on "T" at this point and I am in a committed relationship. Luckily my girl friend doe's not care if I window shop so to speak.

[Andy66]

I believe in equal rights too, Aaron, and I dont think anyone should be treated like a piece of meat. I see men do it to women, but I sometimes see women do it to men too.

Having said that, though, I think theres nothing wrong with appreciating a good looking person, as long as you control your actions.

...Look out, while we are on the subject, Im going to get up on my soap box for a moment. I believe in EQUAL rights. I hate hearing men say something is a womans job, but I am offended when women act helpless and wont do a job that needs to be done because its supposedly mens work. Its a slap in the face to all the womens rights activists of the past who fought to get women seen as equals.


Anybody else other than Aaron? Please don't be afraid. Believe it or not, I suspect that this is a masculine trait. NO FEAR.:D
I just didnt answer because the questions seemed to be specifically directed at Aaron. *shrug*

[MysticLady]

...Look out, while we are on the subject, Im going to get up on my soap box for a moment. I believe in EQUAL rights. I hate hearing men say something is a womans job, but I am offended when women act helpless and wont do a job that needs to be done because its supposedly mens work. Its a slap in the face to all the womens rights activists of the past who fought to get women seen as equals.


Hi Andy, Based on what I read, you are outspoken on women's rights and equality, yet you have transitioned or in the process of, into a man. Do you still feel a strong desire to be feminine and therefore strongly support women and their struggles? Where are at in your transition? Are you fluid like me? Moving back and forth between essences.

[Andy66]

Victoria, I use the label transman because alot of the ladies kept thinking I was a mtf CD for some reason. Transman is the simplest way to sort of get the idea of what I am across. Im actually in a female body and more like gender fluid, genderqueer, both but leaning more toward male. No, I will not be transitioning. I feel my body is adequate for what i use it for, and it usually doesnt bother me too much.

Yes, I am very much for womens rights. I am also for the rights of other groups when they get treated badly, even if I dont really belong to that group. Its the hippie in me.

[MysticLady]

Yes, I am very much for womens rights. I am also for the rights of other groups when they get treated badly, even if I dont really belong to that group. Its the hippie in me.

You're compassionate for others. I feel just like you. Do you believe this is a feminine trait within us?

[Andy66]

I have a hard time assigning the trait of compassion to a specific gender. It doesnt have to be soft or sweet. Think of a male soldier, firefighter, surgeon etc. who do some pretty extreme things out of compassion.

[MysticLady]

I relate compassion to a woman because of my spiritual beliefs. I'm not allowed to speak of that here. But if you would like me to tell you, PM me.

[Andy66]

Wait, what??? We arent allowed to talk about spirittuality? Aaron, is this true? I guess I cant wish anyone a Merry year end religious holiday anymore or try to comfort someone whose relative passed away? :sad:

[Ryan A.]

- I consider myself bigender. Sometimes I'm woman, sometimes I'm man, sometimes I'm in between, sometimes I'm a female in male clothes, sometimes I'm male in female clothes... Ok, that's more than two LOL but I see as two... Or three... Well, I believe I do think a lot about labels and it confuses me. Bigender is the easiest to define myself.

- I'm not bisexual, but I'm heterossexual in both sides.

- When I'm a man, I feel good in the same way when I put make up on as a female.

- I remember when I was a kid and I heard of hermaphrodites. I thought that they were lucky, 'cause they could "choose" their gender. There's more things that NOW makes sense, but in that time I thought I was nuts.

- I'm a feminist person, it's because of feminism that I read a lot of transfeminism and discovered myself. And because of feminism I noticed a lot better about my "white privilege". I fight for a lot of causes, and I know when I'm the voice to be heard and when I'm the voice that is heard (I don't know if y'all understand =P).

[Ryan A.]

Since I am a man I also have duties and responsibilities as one and am able to fluid myself between both as needed. Is it the same or different for you? Do you believe, being a GG gives you an advantage or a setback experiencing this change? Please tell me your story.

Sorry, but what is a GG? I'm so embarressed to ask this (>_<) it's being "fluid"? (>.<)

I'm gonna answer the way I understood LOL: I love being "fluid", not only I know what it feels like to be both genders, but I break society rules of gender and sexist stuff!

[Princess Grandpa]

GG=genetic girl

Thank you for sharing everyone!

Hug
Rita

[Sister Rachel]

I just rated this thread as "excellent", I hope it runs and runs .. :)

[MysticLady]

- I'm a feminist person, it's because of feminism that I read a lot of transfeminism and discovered myself. And because of feminism I noticed a lot better about my "white privilege". I fight for a lot of causes, and I know when I'm the voice to be heard and when I'm the voice that is heard (I don't know if y'all understand =P).

Hi Ryan, Thank you for joining us. I very happy for you in the fact that you are discovering yourself. I believe that men are not the only ones that deal with this TGism. I suspect this fluidity gives you the ability be strong in something you feel is worth fighting for. Please explain to me what you mean by "white privilege". I'm afraid I do not understand.

[Ryan A.]

GG=genetic girl

Thank you for sharing everyone!

Hug
Rita

LOL thanks! I'm embarassed again >.<


Hi Ryan, Thank you for joining us. I very happy for you in the fact that you are discovering yourself. I believe that men are not the only ones that deal with this TGism. I suspect this fluidity gives you the ability be strong in something you feel is worth fighting for. Please explain to me what you mean by "white privilege". I'm afraid I do not understand.

It's because white and black people are treated diferently in most societys, black is always the ugly, bad and the white is always the beautiful, good. At least in my country :P


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I don't know if it had happen to some of you, but have you ever felt embarassed to speak the correct pronoum to yourself (at least in the beginning)? I starting right now to refer to myself as "he" at the streets when I'm on male mode, but I feel a little embarassed to say to other people. I beginning to talk like that with strangers, but when I do, I speak words that doesn't exist LOL

For example: in Portuguese, when you say "thank you" you can say it in two ways: "obrigado" (male) e "obrigada" (female). I speak "obrigad" hehe or I cut the last letter or I avoid situations that I need to choose a gender like: "I'm a crazy woman/man" to "I'm a crazy person".

[MysticLady]

For example: in Portuguese, when you say "thank you" you can say it in two ways: "obrigado" (male) e "obrigada" (female). I speak "obrigad" hehe or I cut the last letter or I avoid situations that I need to choose a gender like: "I'm a crazy woman/man" to "I'm a crazy person".

I understand. The female and male positions of a word or noun. In the Spanish Language, it is the same. Ella o el. La Troca o el carro. Regarding the different races and peoples around the world, I see everyone as a child of God. Who am I to condemn my brother or sister. Anyway, Are you from Portugal? Whatever country your from, welcome. :hugs:

[Ryan A.]

I understand. The female and male positions of a word or noun. In the Spanish Language, it is the same. Ella o el. La Troca o el carro. Regarding the different races and peoples around the world, I see everyone as a child of God. Who am I to condemn my brother or sister. Anyway, Are you from Portugal? Whatever country your from, welcome. :hugs:

I think I'm embarassed because people see me as a woman when I'm dressed as male... Well, I'm cutting my hair today, hope it helps lol

Oh and I'm from Brazil! Thank you so much for being nice :)

[Jorja]

Ryan, I was just reading through the posts I normally do not get to read. Can I make a suggestion that may help you in your journey? If you are going to be successful in your new gender, never be embarrassed about who you are or how you might look to others. If you truely are Ryan, own him and all that he stands for. As you progress things like hormones (if you chose that route) will help convince others you are Ryan. Transition is 98% mental and 2% the rest of what it takes.

[MysticLady]

Oh and I'm from Brazil! Thank you so much for being nice :)

Welcome Ryan, from Brazil. What a Green, Lush and beautiful country you have.

[noeleena]

Hi,

Each county has different peoples some are black , brown & other close colour's & some of us are white, im classed as white though im olive part of my background, why do you say black is ugly some of the most beautyfull people i have known are black they are just lovely people ,

our people Maori are many different shades of brown many are lovely as well some have stricking features,

My race was hated during the 2 nd WW, & we have many different groups sub groups from different places, im proud of my people not so as to what was done to us or what we did to others yet are any of us blamless no of cause not what we need to remember is we are all related after all just because we have not over the years been nice to each other mores the pity because we all can give to help each other,

We may be different in colour race , belive & where we live, we are all human wether we be male or female , i try to foster friendship with others who are different, wether its in music or just being on this & other forums im on i do P R through our groups seen by many people so friendships can be formed .

I have no issues with others from around the world i treat them as i like to be treated,

Okay ill concede many white people are beautyfull ,ill take it you mean women , itll depend on what one means by beauty. some of us white women dont have that outer beauty refered to, i certinly dont so if my beauty is not seen it must come from with in so i show my inner beauty that way,

...noeleena...

[MysticLady]

Aaron, Andy66, Ryan.........Thank you for joining our discussion. I really appreciate you all sharing your stories w/ us. I am a bit surprised that we haven't had responses from others. Please, join us and let's talk about life. Don't forget your coffee:heehee:

[Ryan A.]

Ryan, I was just reading through the posts I normally do not get to read. Can I make a suggestion that may help you in your journey? If you are going to be successful in your new gender, never be embarrassed about who you are or how you might look to others. If you truely are Ryan, own him and all that he stands for. As you progress things like hormones (if you chose that route) will help convince others you are Ryan. Transition is 98% mental and 2% the rest of what it takes.

Thanks! Sometimes I forget my own voice... I'm still attached to other's opinion...

I'm bigender, but I want a more androgynous look... One day I thought getting on T, maybe a little bit to make it easier to fluid from one to another gender, but it won't be that easy, especially because I have trauma with needles :(

Wish I could change my gender everyday like Shezow or Sailor Uranus LOL


Welcome Ryan, from Brazil. What a Green, Lush and beautiful country you have.

Thanks! It's not that green anymore, unfortunatelly :(


Hi,

Each county has different peoples some are black , brown & other close colour's & some of us are white, im classed as white though im olive part of my background, why do you say black is ugly some of the most beautyfull people i have known are black they are just lovely people ,

our people Maori are many different shades of brown many are lovely as well some have stricking features,

My race was hated during the 2 nd WW, & we have many different groups sub groups from different places, im proud of my people not so as to what was done to us or what we did to others yet are any of us blamless no of cause not what we need to remember is we are all related after all just because we have not over the years been nice to each other mores the pity because we all can give to help each other,

We may be different in colour race , belive & where we live, we are all human wether we be male or female , i try to foster friendship with others who are different, wether its in music or just being on this & other forums im on i do P R through our groups seen by many people so friendships can be formed .

I have no issues with others from around the world i treat them as i like to be treated,

Okay ill concede many white people are beautyfull ,ill take it you mean women , itll depend on what one means by beauty. some of us white women dont have that outer beauty refered to, i certinly dont so if my beauty is not seen it must come from with in so i show my inner beauty that way,

...noeleena...

Oh no, that's not what I wrote :( I think you did not understood what I said.

When I said that black was ugly and bad, I was saying how brazillian society thinks (and maybe 99% of the world). It was never my opinion and never will be. I think against racism, sometimes arguing with others that say racist things, sometimes protesting online and offline. But even doing this, I know that I'm not the voice to be heard, I'm not the protagonist in this fight.

I think your comment it's really cool, thought. You did not get violent. I appreciate people that prefer to teach then to fight!

[Sallee]

What a great discussion interesting hear the other side as it may be. I am a cd and I like both sides of me and I to can be embarrassed when I am dressed and perceived as a man in a dress. I prefer to pass and blend when dressed.
I see female clothes as fun, flirty and beautiful, colors and styles I also see females in general as eye candy, no offense meant to any one.
My question is do the FTMs see males and male clothing the same way. In my way of thinking they,ftms, are missing the fun of being a girl but I realize that is not true. Thanks Sallee aka Stu

[mistunderstood]

I like ties and suits. I will admit I am a lazy dresser. T-shirts and shorts or jeans. I do not really go for colorful clothes. Blacks blues and greens are main choices of color.

[MysticLady]

My question is do the FTMs see males and male clothing the same way. In my way of thinking they,ftms, are missing the fun of being a girl but I realize that is not true. Thanks Sallee aka Stu

That's a great question Sallee. I wonder if the clothes that I consider blah would cause a different sensation to a FtM. I just see male clothing as just something too throw on.


I like ties and suits. I will admit I am a lazy dresser. T-shirts and shorts or jeans. I do not really go for colorful clothes. Blacks blues and greens are main choices of color.

Hi Aaron, it appears your just like me,:heehee: Kinda, I hate suits and ties. Too Me, they're just Blah. I'm sure you think a pretty dress and heels are blah. Oh well, that's just us, right:hugs:

[mistunderstood]

I like the look of a nice dress just not on me.

[Ryan A.]

What a great discussion interesting hear the other side as it may be. I am a cd and I like both sides of me and I to can be embarrassed when I am dressed and perceived as a man in a dress. I prefer to pass and blend when dressed.
I see female clothes as fun, flirty and beautiful, colors and styles I also see females in general as eye candy, no offense meant to any one.
My question is do the FTMs see males and male clothing the same way. In my way of thinking they,ftms, are missing the fun of being a girl but I realize that is not true. Thanks Sallee aka Stu


That's a great question Sallee. I wonder if the clothes that I consider blah would cause a different sensation to a FtM. I just see male clothing as just something too throw on.



Hi Aaron, it appears your just like me,:heehee: Kinda, I hate suits and ties. Too Me, they're just Blah. I'm sure you think a pretty dress and heels are blah. Oh well, that's just us, right:hugs:

Yeah for me, that grew up like a girl, I remember that I loved the colorfull outfits, that it was really fun to wear girls outfits. I used to love make-up and long hair, etc... But I've always seen that the boys outfit were much easier to dress, doesn't bring that much of attention... I've always preffer baggy clothes, I don't like to show my "curves"...

I understand both sides, FTM and MTF. I think it's really pretty dress and heels, but it's been some time that I don't feel good in them anymore. I prefer suit and tie, it's classier and don't bring so much attention.

Actually, I'm scared. I'm really scared. I consider myself bigender, but it's been 2 months that I don't feel my women side anymore... I'm feeling disgusted when I put my women clothes when I'll go to work. I'm not happy, but I don't know it's just a wave that just got longer that it used to be. I'll see if that keeps growing.

Resuming: When I'm a man, I see woman clothes like it's too much. Like a cake that it's too sweet for my taste.

[mistunderstood]

I can not put on a piece of women's clothes with out feeling like I might throw up.

[Sallee]

Interesting Those are the colors I wear most to has a guy. Don't know if they are my favorite It is just the cloths that are out there. I guess you could call them guy colors.

[Beverley Sims]

I can not put on a piece of women's clothes with out feeling like I might throw up.
Aaron,
I can not eat vegetarian food as I gag at the thought of eating it.
I like vegetables and eat them regularly but tell me it is vegetarian and I am out.
I think it is conditioning.

[mistunderstood]

No I have had that feeling ever since I was 3 years old.

[MysticLady]

Hello All

I hope this note finds all in good spirit.
I have a question that I would like you all to give comments on. My first time out en femme I was a dance club w/ a friend. Now, I had never been to a gay establishment and was amazed the many different folks that were there. Now, I noticed a lot of pretty GG's and they we're with other girls sometimes or as groups. Of course since I'm more familiar with asking a girl too dance than waiting for me to be asked too dance, I had asked a couple. One said yes and another said no. Now, I don't really know the protocol regarding transmen and their girls so I did not continue to ask since I did not want to offend someone by asking their girl out to dance. If I should wish to and ask a GG to dance while I'm en femme, is there any advise you all can give to look for so that I will not ask someone's girl too dance since sometimes it's difficult to tell if they're there w/ friends or as someone's girlfriend. I would really like your opinions or ideas on what too look for or be aware of. Thanks

[mistunderstood]

Ummm not sure what to say. I guess best to just ask. If they say no then move on. If some one gets up-set just explain you meant no harm and move on. Some gay bars are really up tight and some are real cool and easy going. I will admit I do not go out were I live there are not any safe bars let alone gay bars. Do you have any gurl friends you could take with you? I find friends help with breaking the ice.

[Beverley Sims]

Wait, what??? We arent allowed to talk about spirittuality? Aaron, is this true? I guess I cant wish anyone a Merry year end religious holiday anymore or try to comfort someone whose relative passed away? :sad:

Andy,
I would hate to think that we would get that politically correct.
I am into tongue in cheek all the time.
I was talking to some in a group the other day and they agreed I was white and they were black, all the other names were just labels and equally offensive as each other.
My label for you is "A pussycat with glasses."

[mistunderstood]

Sorry I missed the post from Andy 66. Wishing someone happy holidays or religious holiday if fine. Any thing more go in the religion section.

[MysticLady]

My label for you is "A pussycat with glasses."

I agree. I also bet he's cute in person.:o


Do you have any gurl friends you could take with you? I find friends help with breaking the ice.

Thanks Aaron for the response. I guess I'll learn the more I visit. I just couldn't believe the amount of beautiful girls at a gay club. I wish I would have know this when I was younger:D

[MysticLady]

Hi All

Well, I've noticed that we have been blessed w/ more "boys" joining the forum. I want too welcome all of you and thank you for sharing your story. Everyone's story is an adventure that we all appreciate reading. For all of you out there not yet here, what's your story? :)

[MysticLady]

Hi You all that are reading this. Please come in and have a cup of coffee w/ us. I'd love to hear your story.

[KatieOnTheKeys (GG)]

Hi. I'm a GG, but bi, and did spend some time after breaking up with my long term bf in guy mode. I'm now married (to a cder) and have a 9 month old daughter. I'm still really confused where I sand in myself. I completely identify as biologically female, but I feel much more comfortable dressed as a male. Recently I'm getting more comfortable, and also enjoying, my female look (my figure, experimenting with make up etc) so I'm even more confused now lol.
Nice to meet you :)

[Raychel]

Nice to meet you Katie,

You sound like you are dealing with the same issues that a lot of us on the forum have.
In one body, but really prefer to be dressed in the clothing of the opposite gender.
But then there are times when you enjoy the gender that you were given at birth.
It is so confusing.

Anyway, welcome to the forum, :hugs::hugs:

[RoryKitrick]

Hi. I'm a GG, but bi, and did spend some time after breaking up with my long term bf in guy mode. I'm now married (to a cder) and have a 9 month old daughter. I'm still really confused where I sand in myself. I completely identify as biologically female, but I feel much more comfortable dressed as a male. Recently I'm getting more comfortable, and also enjoying, my female look (my figure, experimenting with make up etc) so I'm even more confused now lol.
Nice to meet you :)

I'm the same way!
For a long time I thought of myself as transgender, but as time went by I came realize that I didn't want to change my body. I flip flop these days between feeling more female, or more male.

[MysticLady]

Welcome everybody. I'm glad you're here w/ us. Please don't hesitate to ask questions or share your experiences w/ us. You'd be amazed at how much your experience may help or give someone else the courage to move forward in life.