So just how CONFIDENT are you?

[Wildaboutheels]

Confident as in... YOU go out "dressed" regularly into the RW.

Maybe you have never had it happen? [yet]

If not, just take your best guess as to what your very FIRST impulse or thought might be IF... you hear a "wolf whistle" while out in the RW.

1] I've been busted

2] I obviously "passed"

3] Totally ignore and go on with your shopping or whatever you are doing

4] RUN FOREST, RUN!

5] You IMMEDIAYELY turn to the direction of the whistle, to attempt to gage intent

6] Autonimously go into Kung Fu mode ready to tear some wisea$$ a new one.

7] Other???

[Jodi]

I have had it happen. I totally ignore it.

Jodi

[Princess Grandpa]

On a scale of 1-10 I would have to say my confidence is about 2. I went out in public once and it freaked me out. I have a great time in the safe environment we have found however.

Hug
Rita

[Kate Simmons]

As I said in another thread, probably wiggle my buttski.:)

[AllieSF]

Depends how I am dressed, where I am and if I can actually see the person who whistled. But, most likely, I would just accept it and keep on doing what I was doing. In some circumstances and depending on my mood, I might actually try to see that person and smile and maybe even say "Thanks". I am at a point now where I don't even pay attention to call outs to me or "us" when we are out. In fact one time last year someone we know did that and after quite a few steps we looked at each other and asked, "Did someone just call out my name?" We eventually, many months later, saw him again and apologized for our lack of paying attention.

[linda allen]

I would ignore it and move on. At my age, nobody would whistle even if I was a GG. Besides, I'm not interested in meeting or even seeing a guy who would do such a thing.

[Kelly DeWinter]

My confidence totally outstrips reality. LOL

[Wildaboutheels]

It seems obvious from the "other" thread that most would somehow feel insulted? Does that mean when people say not a single word and don't bat an eye, that people think they "passed"?

[Tracii G]

I have had a few wolfies first one I turned and looked to see who did it and did a bow and a curtsy.
Second one I smiled when I turned around and caught an applause from the group of guys that did it.
I actually like it when it happens.

[sandra-leigh]

I have been going out dressed for 8 years, and I've never gotten a wolf whistle.

I have gotten "Hey, sexy" and a few similar calls (including remarks on my clothes) that, in context, were obviously intended to be derisive (the snickers give it away). I just walk on by; they are usually trying to provoke a reaction. Yes, in theory I could approach them and turn it into a "teaching opportunity", but I don't have the time.

I had one (younger) creep follow me in his car taking pictures and calling out the window that I was cute, and asking whether I wanted to "work" a party. I kept going (though with an eye to my safety.) He didn't deserve a response (other than perhaps to be given the middle finger -- or to have the police called on him.)

I have received some polite normal-volume remarks on my appearance that did appear to be directly sincere, or at least seemed to be expressions that I looked okay and that the person was complimenting my efforts to be myself. I say "Thanks" to those, and I might remark on where I obtained an item.

The most sincere compliment I ever received about my female body appearance was relatively early on, and was not given to me directly. It was a summer evening, I had a thinner shirt on, and underneath I had taped two layers of "add a cup" shapers using double-sided Scotch tape. As I walked near one of the local universities, a few seconds after I had passed a group of three younger people, one of the guys exclaimed to his friends, "Did you see that? Those were nice breasts! ... I mean, really nice!". The remark was very spontaneous and was not being spoken to me: it was exactly the tone and timing of a young man who has just seen someone with breasts the fellow really liked. The group had already passed me so I didn't say anything, but I certainly did smile to myself afterwards :o

[kimdl93]

It's never happened. I don't know if I should be disappointed or relieved.

[DeeArel]

When it happens and it is not often, I turn, smile, and then continue on. I take it as a compliment.

[melissakozak]

Beats me, but I have never had any problems going out, and I do on a regular basis both to clubs and the real world....keep calm and carry on...and rock the living crap out of whatever you have got!

[Aly Cat]

For me, its pretty easy to go out dressed in just about anything. I've got a lot of confidence in wearing whatever. Thats the joy of being a total nerd! I go to conventions dressed up as comic/movie characters, I've done performing arts as a mime in the Piazza Nuvona in Rome Italy etc. Dressing in a skirt or dress? No problem. My downside is that I really don't care at all what people think so I also don't try and present as a woman. I'm manly enough to know I could never pass so i just wear whatever I enjoy and leave it at that. NOW! I have not actually gone out dressed en femme but that is only because i have not had the opportunity. Especially since my wife is so anti crossdressing. I may have a chance at some point in the near future since a female friend of mine loves my fashion sense and wants me to be her personal shopper for a day. Hopefully that happens soon. Im so dying to get out there!

[docrobbysherry]

Well let me see. Things I can worry about:

1. Flying pigs.
2. What to say if God speaks to me?
3. Someone whistling at me.

#3 is the least likely.

[GBJoker]

I have zero confidence. I have tried my best to avoid going outside while dressed, and managed to only go outside once for a class presentation about appearances. I absolutely refuse to be around other people when dressed.

[Tina B.]

If I get a wolf whistle, I'm going to run, he must be deranged!
Now as far as going out, years ago, I got up the nerve to go out, because I was on a site for CD's and everyone said you just have to get out.
I went shopping, was in a Large store, and found myself the subject of interest to two 14'ish aged young ladies that stocked me around the store trying to get a better look, I got out back to the car, and have never tried to do it again, I've gone for drives, and end up a nervous wreak just from passing cars, so I gave that up too.
It's funny, I can shop in the women's section so comfortability that it must be obvious I'm shopping for me, but I can't get passed the fear of being out dressed.
Oh well, since the wife worries about safety and reputations, it makes her happy I'm such a chicken.
But I know me, someone laughs, and I'm not going to be a lady about it!

[RenneB]

I'd say mine's pretty high...'bout nine out of a ten.

It's taken me a while but I pretty much go where I want when I want. I've gotten everything from "OMG it's one of them" by a 20 somethin' in a store to "hey this dress would look nice on you hun" from a middle aged GG lady in a thrift store. Walking downtown, got "hey someone's looking beautiful today" from a guy in a pickup truck and just smiled and kept walking.... lovin every step...

It's one of the hardest things to do I've found in this CD world is to get the IDC 'tude. I mean, I care what I look like, but I really don't care what others think. ...

Renne......

[Tracii G]

A few days ago I was out enfemme and had a 40 something guy ( long hair long beard kind of duck dynasty looking) pull up beside me at a traffic light and he looked over and smiled and said I love when a pretty woman drives an SUV.
I asked why is that? with a smile of course.
He said because it shows a tomboy side and I like that.
I replied thank you. I do love a little off roading.He got a huge smile and said right on sister!
I'm assuming his eyesight wasn't all that good but I took it as a compliment LOLOLOL.

[NathalieX66]

I like me.
Malls, Trains, Airlines, car rentals, everywhere.
The young folks (car hops) on rollerskates/rollerblades at Sonic Drive in just don't seem to notice or care how I dress. They seem to appreciate me. I just want my Coney Island Chili Cheese Hot Dog & lime lime-aid.

[5150 Girl]

Well, I feel I pass reasonably well. I have not received a Woolf whistle yet, however, I believe my first reflex would be to establish intent. If it is genuine, I think I would likely return with a little hair toss, and an eyelash flutter, and go on about my business.
If it was because I was read and they were making fun, I think that would receive an eye-roll, and I'd move on.
How-some-ever...... In my case in dealing with the flirtatious, they have insisted on trying to put their hands on me. Usually though, brushing the hand away, and stating "I'm a lesbian" is good enough. I did have one joker who refused to take no for an answer. I ended up having to sink my nails into his arm as I removed it from my shoulder for the millionth time. I sank my nails in hard and brought him to his knees, and said "what part of "lesbian" do you not understand?" I then kissed my Polar Bear (this was the night I met her BTW) The guy finally got the hint.

[Leona]

I'd do what Katydid. (Terrible pun, sorry, but what Kate said!) :)

I haven't gone out en femme, but I go out mixdressed, so when I see gawkers that are trying to hide the fact they're gawking, I turn my ass to them and shake it. I haven't flashed anybody yet (besides my wife), but it's usually a slit skirt where the slit goes to the waste, so it's definitely on the menu.

[Nikki A.]

Not very likely in my case. That said, if I'm not in a situation where I'm worried for my safety, a wink and a smile and continue on my way before he comes to his senses.

[lingerieLiz]

Only in my youth, but then back then nice guys didn't do wolf whistles. Now days even the bad guys would whistle at an old woman.

[Princess29]

I am struggling with my confidence. I know there is no mistaking me as a man in a dress, no matter how much effort I might put into my appearance and I have to try and find my inner "screw you" to the world and learn to not care what people think. Not there yet though by a long way

[Tracii G]

A whistle is pretty harmless IMO.

[Cheryl T]

3 works for me. I've had a few stares and a couple of comments but mostly I just don't pay attention to anyone anymore. I go about my business and let others do the same.

[Angela Campbell]

I guess my reaction is usually 4.....I have been whistled at and I have had the "hey baby" and even the hand on the arm. I don't like it one bit and want nothing to do with it. I feel very threatened by it. But then I have a pretty big fear of men so it does not take much for me to get frightened by them. A woman has never been anything but nice to me when in passing or conversation. I usually try not to go out alone.

[stephNE]

I'm in the 1, 2 and 3 group. Sometimes I don't have any negative contacts so I feel as though I passed. Other times I've been busted for sure. Most of the time I jut go on about my business and let it go.

[Princess Chantal]

I'd say that I am quite confident and comfortable with my crossdressing. When I receive something like a wolf whistle, I wonder if the person is admiring the same attribute(s) that I, myself took an admiration of while looking in the mirror before heading out in public. Hmmm maybe they are expressing their admiration to something I did not see?

[Sabrina133]

As I said in another thread, probably wiggle my buttski.:)

I have done the same. Turned, smiled and wink.

[Angiemead12]

Ignore it for sure!

[happyallie]

In my book I haven't really been out. My confidence is growing daily. This is the reason I'm going to SCC this year.

[Audrey34]

I'm not very confident either. I only go out into the RW when I'm with a group. Would never go alone. The last time I was out and about with my friends we were walking from the wig shop we had just visited to the car when I noticed two guys walking towards us. I was bracing myself for the negative comments (hey, looka the freaks, etc) and instead I hear "good evening ladies" and the guys kept on walking. Talk about being in shock. I wasn't expecting two young men to be so polite. Or maybe because there were 4 of us girls and we had them outnumbered?
-Audrey

[linda allen]

A whistle is pretty harmless IMO.

So is calling a black person a "n****r", but it's not appropriate. :raisedeyebrow:

GGs shouldn't have to put up with that crap and neither should we.

[krissy]

When i was younger my ex-wife dealt with my dressing by putting me on the spot like dressing me in her short dresses ahd heels apurse and makeup we would then just walk around the neighborhood it was on a main street oOMG!! i remember the absolute fear panic and thrilling it was it felt great to be ackowleged but scarey TOO. It was the only time i felt alive .now that im older i dont feel that any more and miss it sooo much now i sit in my yard by myself .

[Jana]

I've gone out many times in my life but never had that happen. If that did happen, though, my immediate reaction would be #3.

[suchacutie]

A wolf whistle? ROFL I'd start laughing hysterically. At 63 they must be pretty desperate! I'm chuckling just thinking about it.

[dawnmarrie1961]

It pisses me off every time that happens! But I've trained myself to let it slide on by without giving the source a visible reaction, which is what it is intended to illicit. They aren't worth it.

[Druscilla Supernovae]

Not confident at all. That's why I wear my stuff around the house or at a custume party. Alot of people perceive crossdressers as gay in which I'm not and if my parents found out it would prolly upset them considering my brother is gay. They had a hard time accepting it at first but then they became ok with it. My parents want a grandbaby and at this rate they will never get one. I give up trying to find the one.

[Allison Quinn]

Probably 1 :P
I've never gone out trying to pass u.u
Only once in shorts and I got eyeballed but honestly I got over it but it was terrifying at that moment .3.

waha if when and if I ever go out trying to pass and that happens, I'll try to be confident enough to ignore them, but internally I know i'll think i'm busted :P

[BillieAnneJean]

I am confident between a 9 and a 10 but I put a lot of effort in to it. Everything from a waist cincher to hip and butt pads. Women's watch and an imitation but believable wedding ring set ($40). Well done makeup. nails, false eyelashes, but appropriate to the venue. When I go out in public I look as much like a woman as possible.

I have had one time where two younger guys in a hotel lobby while I waited at the elevator about fifteen feet away, had made me, politely. One whispered to the other who replied in a wisper "Oh Yeh". And one time where a fire truck, not on the way to a fire, stopped in the lane on the opposite side of the street, honked twice, and left. Also without any impolite comments. Each time I reacted just like a woman would.

But I don't care. This is so much fun that I am willing to take the potential bad with the definite and frequent pleasure. The burden is on THEM if they make a mistake. Think about it. What if YOU approached someone you thought was a crossdresser to invite her to a local support group? What if the CDer was actually a woman? How would you and the surrounding audience react when she throws a fit? One day I may be confronted by a self-appointed representative of the inhuman race. What if I AM a woman but one who had been shortchanged in the genes? What if I react exactly like a woman would, with some combination of drama, pain, anguish, loud, hurt feelings, sad face? Then that self ppinted master of gender determination would be judged by the people on the periphery as having offended a woman. Doing a socially unacceptable act. The risk is theirs. So I don't care because I am going to continue to have FUN with this.

I avoid the biker bars, the malls from 2:30pm to 7:00pm, the locations frequented by teeny boppers, tweens, and homophobes. But I also don't frequent those places when in guy mode. So I am not sacrificing anything.

So go if you want to. Get out there and have fun. Maybe in a town an hour away from your home town. Or on the other side of a big city. Pick safe places and times. But enjoy yourself. Just because some ass thinks that they are so wise because they "made" you is not enough of a deterrent to give up your enjoyment.

I would rather do something (within reason of course) and be able to say I did it and enjoyed it, or that I did it and found that I didn't enjoy it, than to look back and say I wish I had tried that, or I wish I had done more of that.

I have had too many people in advanced age tell me that their one regret was not experiencing...................................... ......................

[MsRenee]

I have had that happen several times and its kinda nice.
My response is usually a wave and some times blow them a kiss.
Renee

[prettyinpink57]

I am not confident at all in fact i know i cant pass but i have a loving wife who supports my dressing and i am happy to do it at home. At least for now.

[Laurie A]

Definitely not confident here, so I would fall into the Run Forest Run category. If some where, some how, there was a place to go out and not be judged I would (probably) try it, but really its just not in my DNA. I'll just stand here quietly in the closet and be jealous of those who have what it takes to step outside.

[CynthiaD]

I totally don't pass, so I don't have to worry about wolf whistles. Mostly I have to deal with the puzzled looks that say, "Why is that guy dressed like that?" I just ignore them.

[Dora]

I would feel very confident but also I prefer dressing only around the house, I live alone and don't have no one to go out with, if I had someone to go out with then yes.

[Nikki68]

My first full dress attempt was also my first trip out. My crossdressing was initiated by my boyfriend, (its a "bondage" relationship, and he ordered me to do so.) My wife was thrilled when I told her, and helped me every step of the way, including coming with to his house.
So we arrive, both dresses in our LBDs, heels and stockings, on a saturday night about 10. There were a group of guys hanging out in the neighbor across the streets yarx drinking, and one of them whistled and yelled out, "lookin GOOD Ladies!"
We waved, and I was HOOKED!
That's what really started it for me... aside from a few episodes in my early teens with my stepsisters panties....

[Kali]

I'm 6'5" tall and weigh 280.

I go out in public daily and would be more concerned about the villagers and their pitchforks than getting whistled at.

[Lynn Marie]

I'm confident enough to post a "real" picture of me as my avatar here, and to include a link to my Flickr site, which includes a few pictures of me "out and about" with friends. Speaking of "friends", I feel quite fortunate that I can count at least 20 CD girlfriends whom I see and hangout with regularly, and a few more in more distant places that I may only see yearly but whom I love dearly.

[DanielleT]

I am confident enough to go out fully dressed to LGBT/T-girl/Lez clubs late at night. As far as my daytime dressing, while I love going out during the day fully dressed as a woman, I tend to limit that to situations wherein I don't have to interact with others. Usually, that is things like gassing my car, dropping off dry cleaning at a remote site and so. While I am quite passable, my deep voice is a dead give away.

[Wildaboutheels]

Thanks for all the replies ladies. The purpose of this thread was to determine how YOU would INTERPRET a wolf whistle and how did you handle it OR do you have any idea what your reaction might be.

[Amy07]

So my view, you and i don't pass... to what are tolerates that... going out dressing...
i don't know where you live, but if you don't get it right, you may get hurt. NY, Texas, MD, LA...
Be safe.

[kellycan27]

Wolf whistles don't bother me in the least. Confidence wise.. I'll stand proudly next to any GG.

[Beverley Sims]

My confidence scale is about nine and if I get a wolf whistle I guess it goes up at least a point.
Sometimes I do make eye contact.

That was at least twenty years ago.
Those were the days.. :)

[PretzelGirl]

I go out all the time and haven't head a wolf whistle yet. What does that mean?

[Leona]

The burden is on THEM if they make a mistake. Think about it. What if YOU approached someone you thought was a crossdresser to invite her to a local support group? What if the CDer was actually a woman? How would you and the surrounding audience react when she throws a fit?

This is on the same level as asking a woman when she's expecting and congratulating her, and then finding out she's not pregnant.

OOOPS.

[RedBaron]

I've been going out in skirts for 12 years. I wear skirts all the time. Had lots of wolf whistles, probably because I love to wear short miniskirts. I just ignore them.

[Trisha65]

I would say 9.9. I present as a woman 24/7 but there is always a slight fear of being found out. Will that go away even after HRT and SRS? I doubt it as the truth is that I was still born a male for some reason.

[Chickhe]

It happens. What you need to remember is, it happens to woman all the time...to any woman. What do you do? ...hell if I know, that's why I ignore it and keep on moving and I don't think I want to explain to one of those guys why he's suddenly attracted to a man! ...but, I've also had some close conversation and passed for a little bit...its scary at first because I don't want to trick anyone and yet its also liberating to experience what most woman get....even for a guy, I was shocked at the crap guys say to impress a woman....total BS.

[Leona]

For those who don't pass, post on craigslist as t4m and you'll see how men try to impress women.

It's downright pathetic. I was going to write an article about it, but deleted the messages before I had the blog engine on my site, and I haven't managed to work up the stomach to deal with doing it again just to write an article about it.

I promise I'll do it, but it might be awhile.

Men don't know how to flirt. Period. They've got no clue. When they wolf-whistle, they really do think on some level that that's going to get them laid. It's crazy. It's irrational. It's no surprise that it's MEN.

[Micky]

I'm not passable but I have gone out solo, on rare occasion, with pantyhose under my jeans and a pair of nice sneakers. If I'm with my wife and we go out to a movie, then I feel much better about it. I think the shocker was being caught in public one day while at the post office checking out my mail. I had a pair of ultra sheer nude pantyhose on under my jeans, which weren't long enough to cover to the top of my deck shoes. I remember the janitor staring at my feet and saying something to the effect that that guy is wearing nylons to a coworker. How he could of made that determination was beyond me but I started to go into panic mode and left rather quickly. I guess it's safe to say that as much as I want to wear outside the house, I still get flashbacks of that moment in time.

[linda allen]

....... The purpose of this thread was to determine how YOU would INTERPRET a wolf whistle ........

A male who would whistle at a female does it to embarass that female. He knows she won't and can't do anything about it.

A male who whistles at a crossdresser is doing pretty much the same thing, trying to embarass her. Or insult her.

The point I tried to make earlier is that anyone who would do something like that, to a GG or a CD, is a low class, uneducated sort of person. Someone who is likely to be employed as a ditch digger, not an executive.

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I go out all the time and haven't head a wolf whistle yet. What does that mean?

It means you are going out in a better part of town, not where the low-lifes hang out.

[Princess Chantal]

So if a GG whistles at a cd, ts, or men it is trying to embarrass them as well?

Before, you say that GG's don't do such a thing.....
I've had received some from gg's in both gurl and guy modes....

[irene9999]

I think you'd have to be really passable and wearing really sexy clothes to get whistled at (even most GGs don't get whistled at most of the time). I think if it happened to me I'd probably just smile and walk away

[Wildaboutheels]

Seems to me, that Interpretation is EVERYTHING. Unless I have misinterpreted some of the responses, not all members consider them insults or derogatory? I'm clearly not the only one here who can't read minds.

I'd also bet my last dollar that not all GGs consider EVERY wolf whistle derogatory. Is there a GG alive who hasn't gotten at least ONE from a SO at some point in her life?

[JamieOH]

I am 43 years old. And been through allot of embarrassment and agony over my cding in these 43 years. I woke up recently realizing that through all of it. I am still here. I didnt shrivel into a ball and die. I am still the same person I was albeit older and wiser. And not nearly as slender. Though I did lose 50 lbs recently which has really made a difference in the clothes I can wear. I wear lace camis or ladies tshirts/tanks and ladies jeans over a pushup bra and panties around the house regularly. And go to the store/drivethru etc in the same. Sometimes I shave sometimes I have stubble. Dont really wear makeup. Dont really care. My confidence is at an all time high because guess what? Noone really cares. Sure there are your Westboro/right wing moral types out there. But they are truly a minority not majority. Most people pass by without a glance others smile or just pretend not to notice. Some even give me the approving grin and nod. I get a few chuckles or giggles from very young immature people. But very few. As a friend of mine from England says CBA. (can't be arsed).......

[Frédérique]

If not, just take your best guess as to what your very FIRST impulse or thought might be IF... you hear a "wolf whistle" while out in the RW.
7] Other???


7] Other. I would just laugh...:heehee:

[Leona]

I'd also bet my last dollar that not all GGs consider EVERY wolf whistle derogatory. Is there a GG alive who hasn't gotten at least ONE from a SO at some point in her life?

Well, none of the girls I've dated have gotten one from me. I can't whistle. ;)

[Audri]

My confidence, along with my ego, was boosted while grocery shopping a while back.
Strangely enough I was not en femme at the time, rather I was in my summertime male attire consisting of tee shirt, shorts & tennis shoes.
A clerk kneeling down to stock a bottom shelf looked up to see my shapely clean shaven legs, and said; May I help you Miss?
That even then I was well past the age one normally associates with a Miss only added to my pleasure at being mistaken for a woman.
I positively beamed as I responded: Thanks for noticing but I'm doing just fine. I like to think there was a little extra wiggle in my walk as I struted away from the young man.

[Amanda63]

Though I have not had the proper moment to step out into public dressed up I know it will happen and at 50 don't really care what somebody else thinks.

[Launa]

I've had this happen a few months back and I just blew a kiss towards them and waved. They were in a car but if it happened within close distance I would want to yell at them.


So is calling a black person a "n****r", but it's not appropriate. :raisedeyebrow:

GGs shouldn't have to put up with that crap and neither should we.


I think calling someone that N word is a heck of a lot worse than a wolf whistle and its not harmless at all, its in fact very harmful.....