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ericatgirlnj
12-23-2005, 02:06 PM
I am a 32 year old crossdresser. I have been married for 5 years. I have 1 daughter and another son/daughter on the way. My wife found out about my crossdressing. At first I lied and said I only did it a couple times and I stopped. About a month later she found out I was still dressing and threatened me with divorce. I came out and told her almost everything. I said I dress, I like to dress. It makes me feel good about myself. Since we are now having our second baby, divorce questions have stopped but our marriage is different. We do fight a lot and she has lost respect for me.

I still continue to dress on my own and am as careful as possible. I was afraid to tell her in the beginning because I was expecting the same reaction I got how much she hated it and I am a freak and gay (think gay slurs). I told her I only dress by myself.

However the last year I have become not only attracted to other crossdressers but men as well. I get very excited engaging in sexual relations with a man. I never ever even think about having sex with another woman and I am always the bottom so I am never the giver in the act.

I love my wife very much but the most important person in my whole life is my daughter. I would do anything and everything for her. I want to put my dressing aside and especially my bisexual tendencies but the more I put it off, the more I am turned on by men and crossdressing. I am constantly compelled to buy dresses, lingerie, skirts and tops. I have even gone out shopping dressed or not dressed and try on clothes. I am very close now with this girl at the lingerie store and I tell her how I excited I am dressing up for my men and how it turns both of us on.

I am nervous, I am scared. I don't know if I am gay. I am so afriad to lose my wife and most of all my daughter. I am also afriad of my family finding out. I am also very afraid that I prefer men over my wife. I don't know what to do. I am freaking out.

Dayna
12-23-2005, 03:26 PM
Erica, that is pretty heavy stuff. I think you'll find support here, but what you need are real answers...too much at stake.

If you had a crack habit or a problem with alcohol, you could quit; wouldn't be easy, and would probably require professional help, but first you would have to want to quit, once and for all. The question you need to ask yourself: would you give up everything Erica for your daughter? This goes waaaay beyond a wardrobe purge.

Good luck,

ericatgirlnj
12-23-2005, 03:51 PM
even though I don't want to, for my daughter I would do anything and give up anything for her. She means more to me than anything on this planet

Nikki Dee
12-23-2005, 04:03 PM
Hi. Erica...Believe me ..it's not that uncommon a story....is there any chance that your wife is willing to actually find out what it is we are...i.e...there are sites that can help to explain cd/tv/tg...I think her reaction is such a common one...it's called FEAR.!...fear of the unknown, fear that suddenly the guy she married is "different" in a way she can't understand. After all, how would you have felt if she had suddenly decided she wanted to explore her male side.?...and you weren't TG.?. It's a big issue for them to deal with Hun...a lot of patience and caring is needed on both sides...you gotta take things slowly and show her that she is still needed and loved. As for the sexuality...well, that's not uncommon too...although there is a lot of denial out there sometimes...I honestly believe that there are few Tgirls who haven't at some point fantasised about being treated like a real girl by a real guy...so try not to worry too much about that. I don't have all the answers love...wish I did...but I do hope that you find a way through this. I went through a similiar period when I first came out...but now I have a wonderfully supportive and accepting wife who I love to bits. Good luck.
love Nikki. xx

Stlalice
12-23-2005, 04:13 PM
Erica,
I've lost count of the number of times that I have given this advice but that does not make it any less true. You NEED to get yourself into therapy with a good therapist who specializes in gender issues. Before you can begin deal with your wife and kid(s) you need to work out for yourself exactly who and what you are and learn to accept it. If you can talk your wife into going to at least some of the sessions with you it will help you both understand whats going on and what your alternatives are. To find a gender specializing therapist try going to the website for the International Foundation for Gender Education at www.ifge.org or calling them at their Waltham Mass. office - they have professional listings for therapists in all the states and as a bonus you will be talking to a TS/TG/CD person who has "been there - done that" and will give you good advice. If all else fails PM me and I'll try to point you at some other resources. :angel: :angel:

ericatgirlnj
12-23-2005, 04:17 PM
thank you I will try.;)

kathy gg
12-23-2005, 04:22 PM
I am going to try to be as objective as possible without putting my own feelings into this post. And that is HARD because I am the wife of a crossdresser with a small daughter as well.

Everything I do as a Mother (and everything my husband does) has to keep the consideration of our family at stake, our well being, our health, and our happiness. To jeprodize any of those things for sex or anything is not even in my vocabulary....so this is tough to answer...but I saw your post and want to adress you.

You wrote:
I have been married for 5 years. I have 1 daughter and another son/daughter on the way. My wife found out about my crossdressing. At first I lied and said I only did it a couple times and I stopped. About a month later she found out I was still dressing and threatened me with divorce. I came out and told her almost everything. I said I dress, I like to dress. It makes me feel good about myself. Since we are now having our second baby, divorce questions have stopped but our marriage is different. We do fight a lot and she has lost respect for me.
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I am curious as to when you decied to fess up, was this just a few months ago or right around the time that your wife was pregnant or right after giving birth to you daughter? You did not say and I believe this makes a HUGE difference in aceptance. When you have to worry about the care of a small child or during the time of being pregnant, it does not take much to set a woman off. Only because it is an incredibly demanding and exhausting time. Not only physically but mentally as well.

Also there is that period of time even after you have your child where you body does not look like it used to, you are tired all the time and you really dont' feel like a 'hot mama', you feel like this 'thing' that is getting tugged at or cried at or just this blob that makes food. Not a good time to start the crossdressing dialog because moral and self esteem are at veery low points already.

Well you both must have desired or wanted each othe enough to attempt being intimate.... becasue you say she is pregnant again.


You said:
I still continue to dress on my own and am as careful as possible. I was afraid to tell her in the beginning because I was expecting the same reaction I got how much she hated it and I am a freak and gay (think gay slurs). I told her I only dress by myself.
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Well did you take the time to educate her about crossdressing? have you given her any books or printed info out of the computer? If you just annouce one day you are a crossdresser and it makes you feel good and the conversation ends there, I am not surprised at all by the reaction you have encountered. WOmen do not know about this unless they learn about it. If you have taken no time to get her info about this you have no one to blame but yourself. Most women don't even know where to begin in educating themsevles, not all are computer savy. And truly, type in crossdresing in google and you wont get support sites, you get porn, no wonder she might be confused....

Next, You said:

However the last year I have become not only attracted to other crossdressers but men as well. I get very excited engaging in sexual relations with a man. I never ever even think about having sex with another woman and I am always the bottom so I am never the giver in the act.
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There is a HUGE difference between fantasy and reality. Reality is messy, while fantasy are usually flawless. So you fantacise about having sex with a male...right well I know plenty of hetrosexual women who fantacise abotu ANgelina Jolie, but that is just it, it is a fantasy. There are ways to enjoy this fantasy without hurting anyone. As for not even thinking about sex with another woman, well I would hope you dont' look to act that one out either being that you are married.

If you wife is pregnant chances are you are not having lots of sex, espically if you have a small child at home. If she is near the end of her pregnancy, she may just not feel like or or have instructions otherwise from a Dr. Find other ways to rekinkdle your sexual attraction, without sex. Offer to massage her feet (I never met a pregnant women not up for that). Give her an evening of a nice meal that you made (or ordered), send your kid off the a sitter, draw a bath for her, put on fav music. Do what YOU need to do to feel something that takes you back to when you made those babies. They were not immaculant conceptions......

and you said:

I love my wife very much but the most important person in my whole life is my daughter. I would do anything and everything for her. I want to put my dressing aside and especially my bisexual tendencies but the more I put it off, the more I am turned on by men and crossdressing. I am constantly compelled to buy dresses, lingerie, skirts and tops. I have even gone out shopping dressed or not dressed and try on clothes. I am very close now with this girl at the lingerie store and I tell her how I excited I am dressing up for my men and how it turns both of us on.
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You say you love your daughter, but all of your talk indicates right now YOU are into loving yourself more. You have to learn to balance your needs without hurting other people.

But I would hope that you are experiecing some gender euphoria right now, which is a truly selfish stage when one discovers crossdressing and puts that need above everything else .....adn this is a phase which will ease off in time if you learn to get a hold of yourself. Because although having your needs met is great and all, right now you are NUMBER 3 in this world. You have TWO children who look to you for love, a home, and all that is necessary to survive.

You said:
I am nervous, I am scared. I don't know if I am gay. I am so afriad to lose my wife and most of all my daughter. I am also afriad of my family finding out. I am also very afraid that I prefer men over my wife. I don't know what to do. I am freaking out.
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Sounds like you need to make a list of what is important and then what needs to be done in order to make sure that the item of importance is kept that way.

Divorce is expensive and trust me you wont be buying as many clothing if you have to go to court and pay child support for two. Not to mention if your wife really decides to get back at you for leaving. It would be very tempting for a new mother to have loose lips and make sure your family knows exactly why there is a divorce. I don't condone those actions, but it is a real posibility.

Is having the occasional tryst with a stranger jsut for the sake of some momentary pleasure worth all that you have? Is sex and clothing worth the gamble?


But you hold all the keys to yoru future!!!!!!!!!!!! You can control everything that hapens. And you don't have to lose your crossdressing idenity. You can learn to cope with your attractions and keep them in check.

You said you dont' know if you are gay or what, I dont' know the answer either. But if you are, putting your wife at a health risk is not the way to find out. This may take some time. If you feel the same way in some period of time from now, then you may have to admit to your wife, your children, and yoru family who and what you are. But experimenting with a stranger is not the way to find out. Your spouse deserves better.

If being on the internet is giving you a place to flirt with men then dont' go to those places. If you are flirting with some sales girl then don't go back there. Start learning how to flirt with your wife again., if you want to save your marriage.

if you decide that you truly feel nothing for your pregnant wife anymore then do her a favor and do what needs to be done so both of you can move on.

But I hope you will find the silver lining in your home. Expecting a child is supposed to be one of the most exciting events in a couples life. There really is so many wonderful ways you could be channeling your inner female. Helping your wife write a memory book on her pregnancy and yoru feelings as well, getting a scrapbook ready with things from 'big sister'. My GOd this is Chruistmas time (and unless you dont celebrate) there are so many fun things for a fmaily to do this time of year!

Find ways to express who you are inside that don't deal with sex. And if you have to put crossdressing 'on hold' till after your wife gives birth maybe that is something to think about. It is not a 'purge' just a break to give yourself time to prioritize and refocus all this pent up engery you seem to have.

I KNOW FOR A FACT that being a crossdresser and being married and having children and having a happy home are all POSSIBLE. Both people have to want their marriage to work, love each other, take time to communicate and share their feelings and most of all trust each other. When those things dont' jive anymore you have to ask yourself why you are even married.

And please note......everyone who does respond to your post is going to give their answer based on their owns expereinces and feelings. ONLY YOU KNOW WHAT YOU NEED TO DO ..... .and ONLY YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE.

Julie York
12-23-2005, 04:31 PM
Wow. Where's the million points rep button for Kathy.


What she said.:thumbsup:



Or put simply.
Wife pregnant. Wife pregnant.
Slap round head. Selfish.
Wake up!

BettyAnne
12-23-2005, 04:34 PM
Most of this has been said before, but in my case, my opinion ( and that's all that it is) comes from over 60 years as a tv.
Fist, as you most probably are aware, the urge to dress will most likely never go away, so you will have to come to terms with it some way or another.
A therapist can be a great help.
Most important, if you hope to preserve your family unit, assuming that you do feel that this is the prime motivation in your life, you have to make clear, by both word and deed that your wife and daughter are the very most important things to you in your universe.
And I don't mean by just a few genuflections.
I mean 24/7 in every way you can think of. Don't minimize the effect of small acts...like flowers.
As much for the advice of this ancient crone.
Betty

Christina Nicole
12-23-2005, 05:23 PM
Erica,

The interest and the longing to dress up never go away. But the alcoholic's thirst for drink never dies either. However, just as they can put aside their drinking for themselves and their family, so can crossdressers put aside dressing.

Set reasonable goals for yourself. Don't dress for a period of time, and then make it a longer period of time. You are the master (mistress?) of your desires.

Realistically, you probably will crossdress again in the future, but now is a critical time for you. Put it aside. I have put cding in reserve for a few years at a time because it was necessary. Eventually, I allowed myself to dress again because the timing was better. You'll eventually be at that place again. You are not there now. Put it away. Put you things in storage or get rid of them. Sometimes purging is necessary. If you purge, donate as much as possible.

I am sure that you will get though this. Best wishes for you.

Warm regards
Christina Nicole

Honey GG
12-23-2005, 05:34 PM
Wow your post is a cry for help. Please get yourself an appointment with a counseler as soon as you can. You really do need to figure out where you want to go with all of this.
AS a wife of a CD who found out after many years of marriage I will say that your wife could at some point accept your crossdressing, WITH alot of love, communication and time on both your parts. The CDing is really not the issue here.
Being Bi is fine also, having a fantasy is fine, as long as you don't act upon it. I get from your post that you have acted upon it and that is where you have taken a sad turn. You are in a committed relationship. Work on that and you may find that you have a very understanding wife. As long as you continue to cheat on her, be it with a man or a woman then you risk loosing your family.
What do you want? If you don't feel you can make changes that support your marriage then maybe you need to rethink staying in it.
I have happily accepted and support my husband along with the crossdressing, if he ever cheated on me with anyone we would be done....

Make that call and get your life going in the direction you really want.

Honey(GG)

Tamara Croft
12-23-2005, 05:57 PM
You know, you say your wife has lost all respect for you, but she's the one that's having your baby and your the one cheating on her!!! How does that work then hmm? Not only are you cheating on her with a man, but you are getting close to another woman and telling her stuff that turns you on, but alas, it's your wife that has lost all respect for you. Have you actually asked yourself why? Has it not occured to you that she probably knows what you are doing? Women, I'm afraid are not stupid.

You say you are afraid to lose your wife, well sorry to be harsh, but she would be better off without a cheating husband who obviously has no damn respect for her, your daughter and your unborn child. Then you come here looking for sympathy, well sorry, but you ain't going to get any from me, you don't deserve any :angry:

KathrynW
12-23-2005, 06:39 PM
Set reasonable goals for yourself. Don't dress for a period of time, and then make it a longer period of time. You are the master (mistress?) of your desires
Christina-
This is excellent advice. The bottom line is...CD-ing IS a choice. Nobody is holding a gun to our head and forcing us to do it. (well, a few of us probably wish there *was* someone forcing us, but that's a subject for whole different thread.) ;)
Erica is quite obviously on the big slippery slope of CD-ing.
The question: Make your way back up to the top of the slope, save your marriage, honor your family, put all this behind you and never look back, OR...
slide on down the slope to end up who-knows-where?
Honestly, I can't condone cheating within a marriage. I know quite a few here go with the "If It Feels Good - DO IT!" theory...but, quite frankly...That's Crap! ;) Please do what's right for your wife and your family. You can still enjoy CD-ing when time allows, without finding out what's at the bottom of the slope.

JennyCD
12-23-2005, 06:50 PM
OK, I'm no expert, but a couple of points.

1. Therapy

2. You shouldn't cheat on someone you love.

kathy gg
12-23-2005, 07:01 PM
Just realized something, you have posted numerous times to the forum, most times you are posting photos of yourself, discussing your interest in men, talking about going on dates and crotchless panties. I did not know all this when I sent my lengthy reply.

I feel very sorry for your children. Adn espically sad for your wife. I thought you were only contemplating the idea of guys. But it appears you are living it. It really breaks my heart when this happens.

As Tamara said, your wife has no respect for you, well niether do I. I normally brag about how sensative and caring and special crossdressers can be. In most cases they make AMAZING partners to spend a life with. My husband truly is not like other men and I thank some of that to him having this softer side.

I adore many in this community and enjoy being a shoulder and friend to many. You may think you look as pretty in that picture, but your actions are truly 'ugly' and unattractive as they come.

Sharon
12-23-2005, 07:29 PM
Personally, I think you would be doing your wife a huge favor by leaving her.

Summer
12-23-2005, 08:24 PM
I think your wife is nuts for staying with you. You have to earn respect!
Tamara is right on point! way to go
Summer

ericatgirlnj
12-23-2005, 09:03 PM
I read all your posts and everyone is 100% right. Looking at myself in the mirror I am not happy with what I see. I know what's important and it's not what I have been doing these last few months. I have been lying to my wife and to myself. the most important thing in my life is being a good father and a good husband. I know what I have been doing is wrong but I ended up doing it anyway.

I am glad you have been so brutally honest because it has helped.


BTW, I tried explaining my dressing. I tried sending her websites. She wanted nothing to do with it. She thinks it is sick and perverse and that no normal guy does it.

I don't think I am gay because I love women especially my wife but maybe I am searching but because of the fighting I maybe let myself get too comfortable with what I was doing and not who I wanted to be.

Everyone can call me trash and I deserve it but I love my family so much. I feel horrible now.

KathrynW
12-23-2005, 09:32 PM
BTW, I tried explaining my dressing. I tried sending her websites. She wanted nothing to do with it. She thinks it is sick and perverse and that no normal guy does it.
Erica...
Actually, she's probably right. But, who's to define what a "normal guy" does anyway?
I hate football and most normal guys don't. ;) Many cd's have wives/so's who aren't accepting and they still find a way to deal with things. For some wives, it takes a LOT of TIME to wrap their mind around Cd-ing and even begin to understand it. This is still NO excuse to do what you've done.

I don't think I am gay because I love women especially my wife
You may not be exclusively gay, but you're certainly not 100% heterosexual.

Everyone can call me trash and I deserve it but I love my family so much. I feel horrible now.
Well, I hate to say it, but you should feel bad. And the timing is especially BAD, tomorrow is Christmas Eve. Geeeeeesh!
If I were you, I'd apologize about a thousand times, bow down and kiss the ground your wife and daughter walk on, and do whatever possible to redeem yourself. The new year is a week away. Put this behind you and start over. Merry Christmas.

Stlalice
12-23-2005, 09:33 PM
Erica,

Reading the other replies to your post the best and ONLY advice that I can give you is to get yourself into therapy and figure out what and who you REALLY are. You owe that to both yourself AND you wife & kids. You could be a CD, you could be a late onset Hetero TS, and yes it is possible you might be gay. There is NO way to KNOW without getting into therapy and working out your issues with someone who is way better qualified than any of us on this forum. Once you have worked out who Erica REALLY is then you can start to deal with what will become of you, your wife, and your kids. You owe it to them and you owe it to yourself kid - Hang in there and yes I'll talk to you if you feel the need. PM me if you wish. :angel: :angel:

Kaitlyn Michele
12-23-2005, 10:34 PM
Erica

i told my wife in march..

maybe you've seen some of my other posts..i have 2 daughters 9 and 11...after xmas they find out daddy is leaving..we agreed to separate and i'm already in the apartment just staying at home a couple more days.

today my wife broke down and complained to me that everybody thinks she is nuts for wanting me to leave, that the holidays are hell etc etc..

this is a tough issue and tough time to be feeling like you do...i wish you the best and can share this

we are still going back and forth..some days i feel like we are going to make after some time apart...in my gut i think about getting lots of crossdressing in while i have an apartment. maybe even go out to some places!!

when i feel like we are going to stay apart...i feel in my gut that its NOT WORTH IT!!! i want my family!!!!!!!!!!!...its a vicious circle and unfair to my wife for sure...

i want to tell her exactly this but i simply can't . i feel really down and although i'm seeing a therapist its not gonna help for the next couple of days..

so hang in there best you can, focus on the child you love so much and the wife you love and hopefully good will come of it

you are not alone

ChristineRenee
12-23-2005, 10:41 PM
Been following this thread closely Erica and got to agree with the consensus here...get yourself into therapy...for your sake and that of your family.

melissacd
12-24-2005, 12:42 AM
Erica,

I cannot condone what you have done, however, I can empathize with your confusion. We all go through periods of our life where the whole world seems totally messed up. It is at those times, when we have lost our anchor and our boat drifts at sea that we do desperate (and sometimes destructive) things.

I agree that the best thing that you can do is get therapy and start to get your priorities in proper order. Saying that your wife and children are the most important thing is not the same as making them the most important thing. Actions speak louder than, in this case, thoughts.

It may well be that though you profess that you love your wife and your daughter and your marriage that perhaps you love the CDing and the boys on the side more. You need the aid of a third party such as a therapist to help you really look deep inside and answer those critical questions.

The plain and simple truth is that you will not be able to sort this out by forum posts and lamentations and self deprecating statements. You can only sort this out by deep honest soul searching. In the process you will hopefully discover the real truth and that truth may indeed be that you want your family more than anything else. Right now though, mostly you sound lost, confused and mostly you need outside help from what I can see.

Huggs
Melissa

Marlena Dahlstrom
12-24-2005, 01:19 AM
Yeah, it's another "me too" post, but therapy is definitely in order to help you figure out who and what you are, and you need to decide what your priorities really are. You mouth is saying one thing, but your actions are saying something different.

You've realized the damage you've done to your marriage, now you need to do something about it.

LisaRaye
12-24-2005, 01:21 AM
in deed what kathy said i feel for you:)

Lulie GG
12-24-2005, 03:43 AM
There is no easy answer but can't you put your own feelings aside until after the baby is born and concentrate on one of the most exciting things in the world bringing a new life into the world.

Lulie

ericatgirlnj
12-24-2005, 07:50 AM
I don't dress often and even though it isn't right to do at all, it's only been a couple times with guys. 99% of the time I am a loving father to my 2 year old and a devoted husband. I think I let my other feelings take place when things were tough. My wife is due in july. I know the sex with other men is gone permanantly as long as I am married, I still can't stop dressing and fantasizing. Continuing to dress is something I can't stop. I have tried plenty of times as almost all of you know already. Like I said my wife wants nothing to do with it. I only do it in private when no one is home. What d i do for this when she wants no part of this and wants me to stop.


Thanks everybody and have a very merry Christmas.

kathy gg
12-24-2005, 09:59 AM
Erica I am going to ditto and suggest you do get couseling and hopefully in time couples counseling.

But this is where you are getting it all wrong

I don't dress often and even though it isn't right to do at all,

Really, so being a crossdresser is wrong? I have to disagree with you. Being a crossdresser is as much a part of personality is as having blue eyes or brown hair. What is "wrong" about it is when you put that ahead of everything else and don't give any consideration or empathy to anyone but yourself.

I dont' think anyone here is going to condem you for being a crossdresser. Certainly not I.

I think you are equalizing devotion with bringing home an income. And that is not all there is to being a good husband. It is jsut one of the many peices.

You say you have tried to help by giving your wife info. But you never answered my original question, if you tried to srping this all on her when she was pregnant or shortly thereafter, I dont' think any woman (even the most open minded and acepting one) would handle it too well.

As for her non refusal to accept, again keep in mind you only got married 5 years ago. And have one baby and one on the way. This is about the crumbiest time to decide to 'come out of the closet'.

There are probably a million fears that ran through her head.

You may have to face the reality that she is not in a place right now to deal with this. You may have to face that this part of yourself will have to be private. But privacy does not mean go out and have sex with strangers.

You say you can't stop, I dont' think stopping is in the cards. I think yo ucan 'manage' this by seeking therapy to sort through your crossdressing feelings and sort through your sexuality issues.

But you have to face the reality you have created.

YOU CHOOSE to get married and YOU CHOOSE not to tell. I mean there are people on this forum who got married pre-internet, pre-transgender community.

The net and the communtiy were in full swing 5 years ago. You decided to decieve and now you pay the price. You have to live with your actions, or start a new life and then you can do as you wish when you wish.

There are plenty of people on this list who are married to unaccepting wives, and I am pretty sure if given a choice the wives woudl want their guy to stop. So, being married to a person unacepting happens all the time, you are not unique. It probably is not the idea situation, but people do it and manage to live.

If you wanted to have a 'female' partner to share this with you should have married one who was into this.

Most people can tell while dating if a woman is open to kinky things. If you wnated a kinky partner you should have found one. THere are plenty of kinky women in this world. Unless you like making people think you are 'johnny normal' and marrying a kinky girl would have upset that apple cart.

Erica, get offline, go spend tiem with your wife and kids and book a therapy appointment. Let your wife know after the holidays have died down what your intentions are and that you are not going to 'get cured' but to find a way to be a better person with this.















it's only been a couple times with guys. 99% of the time I am a loving father to my 2 year old and a devoted husband. I think I let my other feelings take place when things were tough. My wife is due in july. I know the sex with other men is gone permanantly as long as I am married, I still can't stop dressing and fantasizing. Continuing to dress is something I can't stop. I have tried plenty of times as almost all of you know already. Like I said my wife wants nothing to do with it. I only do it in private when no one is home. What d i do for this when she wants no part of this and wants me to stop.


Thanks everybody and have a very merry Christmas.[/QUOTE]

Sarahgurl371
12-24-2005, 10:44 AM
Erica, I feel bad for you about the confusion and issues you are facing. Yes, even sympathize with you. Even good people sometimes go astray. I would agree, therapy sounds like a very necessary idea.

In the last two years, since reading the book, "Crossdressing With Diginity", I have really tried to apply this definition to how I live. I have always tried to live a dignified and respectful life, but CDing was kinda outside all that. So I would definatley recommend this book. Food for thought.

As for all the extra marital sex, and even the sharing of your intimate life with a person who is not your wife. Well, I think you already know, and probably have known all along. I am married as well. I also have these "fantasies", as it would seem many do. I also would like a "kinky" wife, in the bedroom. But, I am married. I have to live by MY code. And BTW, that means accepting that she is not kinky.

I guess recently, I have realized that FEAR does all kinds of horrible things. FEAR.... Why would anyone lie, thru non disclosure or deception? Why would a married man, with children, choose to be intimate with a stranger? Why do we act out in some times a selfish manner? Why do we act like gluttons, and hoard clothing and such? Why ..... I think at the root of most of it is FEAR.

Fear of being honest with OURSELVES first, and our loved ones second. FEAR of the unknown. The very same fear that our SO's have when we tell them of all this stuff. Fear that we are gay, or BI, well I have had that fear myself. Fear that we will want to be a woman and have SRS. Had that one too. Fear of what will happen to US. Yep.

If I were not afraid too be myself, I can think of all kinds of things that I have done, that I wouldn't have.

My opinion, get some therapy, do some serious soul searching, maybe even put dressing on the back burner. Just do something other thatn acting out. Be proactive. There is nothing wrong with being gay. There is nothing wrong with being BI. There is nothing wrong with being TS/TG/CD. Its how we conduct ourselves in the name of what it is that defines us, that can be wrong.

God Bess!

KathrynW
12-24-2005, 11:43 AM
I don't dress often and even though it isn't right to do at all, it's only been a couple times with guys. 99% of the time I am a loving father to my 2 year old and a devoted husband.
Erica-
It sounds like you're getting into "excuse making" mode. But...But...But...
Please don't go there. You're going to have to humble yourself and accept that what you did was inexcusable, and try to improve, from there. IMHO...this is not the time for excuses.

Tamara Croft
12-24-2005, 05:07 PM
99% of the time I am a loving father to my 2 year old and a devoted husband.Somehow I think you totally miscalculated that..... sleeping around with other men..... I'd say you weren't devoted at all or you wouldn't have even contemplated that!!! :thumbsdn:

Tell me something, why is it always 'get therapy'?? I've never read so many posts like it..... is that the answer to everyones problems outside the UK?? therapy??? I really don't understand, seriously I don't get it!

julimac2003
12-24-2005, 08:55 PM
Erica darling what can I add that the girls have'nt already said we are here and we will be your backbone and I'm sure everyone will agree you can lean on us but you have to get a structure,you have to get a therapist who can look into your situation from the outside and see all the things that you cannot see and can tell you that you have to make a a value structured assessment
about where you want be and where you want to perceive yourself as a person.
I know as an older CD I have been through all the different gambits that life can throw at you, but honey you have to have a structure as to what is most important to you, you state that you will do anything for your daughter but you have put yourself in the situation. You have made your wife pregnant and if you say you will do anything for your daughter then you must feel that you will do the same for your new sibling be it male or female.
I sacrificated a large portion of what would have been a much better feminine future in my life because I beleived that I jointly brought a new life into this world and I was jointly duty bound to support and cherish and uphold his(or it could of been her) upbringing until they werre able to care for themselves in this world.
Darling you have to think that what is happening to you not only effects you but effects what will happen to you and your descendents in the future. Please do'nt look at it as a me me situation, please try with the help of others who can look at your situation objectivley, in a detached manner and say this is the best course of action you thould take. No one has said yet but what about me what happens about my feelings?, well sweetheart you are in a a situation where you have to prioritisise, what is most important, short term gain ie your sexual satisfaction being a girl and being with men etc etc or the longterm strategy, what happens to my children and subsequently me and my spouse, cause if you go down the current road that's what she will be a ex spouse or partner and lett me tell you she will make your subsequent life very awkward socially and otherwise unless you decide you want to move totally away and have nothing to do with your current family situation and never ever see any of them ever again( I do'nt think so).
Erica darling please get some help and let a therepist or counscillor try to put into perspective what you feel is what you want and need to try and make this all work out to at least bring a satisfactory situation that includes everybody and takes into account everyones best interests.
Please get yourself sorted Erica, you owe this to yourself and your family at least!
If I can add any more please pm me.
Love
Julie

Sarahgurl371
12-26-2005, 11:24 AM
Somehow I think you totally miscalculated that..... sleeping around with other men..... I'd say you weren't devoted at all or you wouldn't have even contemplated that!!! :thumbsdn:

Tell me something, why is it always 'get therapy'?? I've never read so many posts like it..... is that the answer to everyones problems outside the UK?? therapy??? I really don't understand, seriously I don't get it!

Tamara,
I think that here in the US, many people today see therapy as a very good opportunity to delve into oneself. I agree that we put alot of influence on saying it. But I think that sometimes one might be inclined not to look too deeply at oneself, or ask the tough questions, and a therapist helps to guide you into asking those tough questions of yourself. i sought a therapist out because I want affirmation of myself from someone who was impartial and had experience and expertise in mental issues, who could tell me if I was OK or not. It would also seem that here in the US, we are really good at identifying "abnormal" people and making them feel really bad about themselves. I guess its just another tool to use in becomming a better person.

Sorry for being off topic