Clothing - TS & GG responses only

[Nigella]

Quite often we see "women don't dress like women anymore" being posted. To me this is just a stereotypical comment made on how women looked in the 50s and 60s.

Do you feel that this comment is fair, or like me do you dress as most modern women do? Comfortable and situation appropriate?

My working situation means that I wear jeans, trainers, T shirt etc, certainly not typical "womans wear". Heels and skirt certainly would not suit digging in the garden :) but then again the heels could make the holes to plant the seeds :heehee:

Outside of work, it is very much mood dependant, no hard and fast rule, just what I feel comfortable in for the situation.

I certainly won't dress in the stereotypical way, but then I am not a stereotypical woman :D

[Tamara Croft]

That comment pisses me off every single time I see it and I have to bite my tongue not to comment. People need to realise we are in 2013, not 1813 and we don't always want to wear dresses and skirts, it's not a fantasy for us, it's our daily lives and to be told we're not feminine enough because we don't dress the part all the time, well those people, with all due respect, can get stuffed :D

[stefan37]

I am a casual person. I normally wear jeans and tee shirts or peasant blouse style tops. I believe my wife as worn a dress maybe 2 tines in the last 5 years or more.

[sandra-leigh]

I do not wear "party wear" or "high class" items unless I am going for an event or at least an "evening out".

Around the house I am more typically in skirt or jeggings. I go through bursts with the skirts, but generally "multi-purpose". A denim-look mini (half way to the knees, not short-short) or a plain full-length denim skirt are not uncommon for me. Sort of like jean-shorts or jeans in spirit. Something I can toss in the wash after I get grass stains on it from cutting the lawn.

If I have somewhere to go during the day, I might put on a dress. Which depends on the weather and my mood. At this time of year, probably one of my linen dresses. Pleasant to look at, good-wearing, warm, perhaps a bit more fashionable than the average woman would dress for "not going anywhere special" but still visibly not an "evening dress". Might get a small bit of attention for not being "dress down" but not much. Just a simple dress -- though getting into that area of "the simpler the dress, the more it costs".

I probably do wear skirts and dresses more than the "average woman" around here (at least outside of work.) But my estimate is that about 20% to 25% of women around here wear skirts or dresses regularly, so I do not stand out. People take more notice of the Hutterites and Amish and the "old school" Mennonites (the women of which always wear dresses.)

My wife wears dresses or skirts more days than not.

[Badtranny]

It's a strange thing for a CD to complain about and it becomes bizarre when they suggest it's the actual reason why they cross-dress.

I am literally the worst tranny possible because not only do I wear pants at work and jeans on the weekend, I don't even shave my legs unless I have to. My legs are typically pretty wooly and when I need to wear a dress it's a 3 day process to get them smooth, soft and tan for the event. I do love to get all dolled up sometimes though.

The Sparkle is coming up next weekend and I'm really looking forward to wearing a saucy cocktail dress and partying with my girls. I better get started on my legs.

[Kimberly Kael]

Women fought hard for our right to dress as we please, so why shouldn't we? Depending on your climate, job, mode of transportation, etc. it may well be that jeans and a t-shirt are the most practical attire. I'm wearing jeans and a sweater today. So what? It's cool outside in the Pacific Northwest where I'm visiting for the weekend. My office job in California gives me the ability to dress more or less as I please, and while I often choose to wear a skirt or a dress I certainly don't think any less of the women I work with who don't.

[DaniellaNYC]

I agree with Tamara. :)

Women may not dress like they used to, but neither do men. Times change, people adapt. Well maybe not everybody. But feminine is not the clothes.

We should wear what makes us comfortable or happy or both :)

[Sandra]

I to don't like that comment either, I guess some think we should still be tied to the sink and have the pipe and slippers ready at home time but I digress :D

I wear what I feel comfy in, whether it be everyday wear or something for a night out. I don't wear heels even for a night out they are uncomfortable and I'm not going to be laughed at tottering down the road.

Just because I don't dress to the nines doesn't mean I'm scruffy or untidy as some on here seem to think, it means I wear what I want, when I want, and to be as comfy as possible.

[emma5410]

At work I wear skirts or dresses as most of the women do. A few wear smart trousers. Jeans, leggings etc are not acceptable except on dress down days. Having said that there is a very wide variety of outfits. The men are expected to wear smart trousers and shirts but ties are optional. Some of them think that the women have far wider choice and it is not fair.

Out of work I were dresses, skirts or jeggings. Most of the women in my area dress androgynously in jeans, sweatshirts etc. They still look like women. I do not have that confidence. I am afraid that it will affect my ability to pass. Plus I actually feel more comfortable in skirts and dresses. I have spent a lifetime in trousers. I am 5'9" so I do not wear heels and wear hardly any make up.

[Angela Campbell]

I mostly dress for comfort but within the appropriateness of the place I will be. No I do not wear a dress or skirt to the grocery store, but if going out to a nice restaurant I may. (not always) I am in Florida and it is hot most of the time so I like shorts most of the time with a tank or loose top. No I will not go out sloppy but I am not going to look like June Cleaver either. Pantyhose...almost never, skirt....not often but sometimes, dressed to the nines...well if going to a place that calls for it, sure. High heels? Not usually I like sandals. I always wear jewelry though.

But then when I lived as a man I didn't wear a suit much either and almost never a tux.

I have to wonder...."women don't dress like women anymore"

What do they dress like?

[Beth-Lock]

... with the skirts, but generally "multi-purpose".... A denim-look mini (half way to the knees, not short-short) or a plain full-length denim skirt are not uncommon for me.... Might get a small bit of attention for not being "dress down" but not much. Just a simple dress....I probably do wear skirts and dresses more than the "average woman" around here (at least outside of work.) But my estimate is that about 20% to 25% of women around here wear skirts or dresses regularly, so I do not stand out.

The 1950's made me. It influenced everything I do, though I have adapted to modern times, manners and things too. Where is the issue to get upset about in that? You do what you like and we'll do what we like.

P.S.

I don't even shave my legs unless I have to. My legs are typically pretty wooly and when I need to wear a dress it's a 3 day process to get them smooth, soft and tan for the event.

SRS certainly has helped me with that.

[Tora]

As noted styles and norms change. In the 70's I wore a coat and tie to work. I wear a coat and tie a couple times a year. June Cleaver is still a picture in my mind. The Wife and I noted that you can't even find a proper need to get dressed up.

[Tamara Croft]

I don't wear heels even for a night out they are uncomfortable and I'm not going to be laughed at tottering down the road.My god that's me in a nutshell lol... I started taking sandals with me in my bag (yes they fit and it's a small bag lol), but that got too much so I just wore those instead and they are pretty pink with huge sparkly things on them :D

However, doing the walk of shame with heels in hand can be quite funny... especially when you lose said shoes for almost a year, thinking your kids had pinched them, to leaving them on the bus etc... and then finding them in the drawer under the bed that isn't even your side lol :D

An added thought, on tuesday, I will actually be wearing a skirt suit... and high heels (5 inches lol)... I will take some pictures, because it will be the first time I've worn a suit in years and with a skirt... gosh the horror :eek:

[Jorja]

That statement pisses me off too each time I hear it. During business hours I wear skirt suits and dresses unless it is really cold outside then it is a pair of nice dress slacks. I am the company and feel it is expected of me to look the part. After hours you will find me in anything one can imagine including jeans and sweats. I wear any type of shoe from sandles to heels to trainers. It really depends on what I am doing. If peole don't like my attire, they can kiss my a$$ for all I care. All they have to do is ask first. ;)

[Di]

When I read that kinda comment it makes me want to scream and throw my computer across the room.......just ticks me off sideways.

My previous job I had to wear a suit to work......could be a pantsuit or a skirt suit. But now days I wear whatever I feel like can be a skirt,jeans or leggings very rarely heels unless it is some fancy event and even then I slip them off. :daydreaming:

[Badtranny]

SRS should help most people with that.

What? SRS will stop hair from growing on my legs? I'm fairly certain that my equally woolly GG friends would disagree.

I've been on the juice for over three years now and I've had implants in my breasts, hips, and buttocks. There's only one thing SRS will do for me and I'm not sure I want it.

[Michelle.M]

I don't even shave my legs unless I have to. My legs are typically pretty wooly and when I need to wear a dress it's a 3 day process to get them smooth, soft and tan for the event.


SRS should help most people with that.

HaHaHaHa! Oh, that's a riot!

[ReineD]

... but then again the heels could make the holes to plant the seeds :heehee:


^ lol.



I agree with you. Styles change. Dressing like a woman today means wearing slacks a lot. Dressing like a woman in the 50's meant looking like June Cleaver. In the 19th century it meant wearing long dresses. In the 18th century it meant wearing long dresses and bustles. Etc.

Did women during the 50s look less feminine than women in the 19th century?

It's unfortunate there are people who are stuck in styles that were popular 60 years ago, just because these CDers feel they need to not wear pants if they don't want to be read. I mean it's OK for them to wear what they want. But to impose their own sense of fashion on others is ridiculous.

The good thing is, I think it is only the vocal few who feel this way and not the majority of our CDing community.

[Tamara Croft]

I'm fairly certain that my equally woolly GG friends would disagree.Pretty sure I've had to shave my woolly legs today... they are getting more sparse as I get older, but if I left them all winter, I could make a nice woolly coat out of the hairs ;)

[Anne2345]

I love you to death, Tam, and you know it, but the mental image of a wooly, winter coat made of shaven leg hair is just a *wee* bit more than I can handle. :puke:

lol!

[I Am Paula]

A lot of men, and CD's still seem to think sexy is a garter belt, seamed stockings, and impossible heels. A very sexy look....in 1947!
Fashion evolves, and the hieght of women's fashion can be jeans and a t shirt- witness 7 for all mankind jeans, and versace tees.
Maybe I always knew I was TS, cause I've always wanted to just be everywoman, even when I called myself CD.
Last week I saw a t-person walking down a suburban street. She was well put together, and despite a six foot plus stature, was very feminine. The tell wasn't an adams apple, or hip/waist ratio, simply, she was wearing a short dress, heels, and carrying an evening bag. At noon. Among women in jeans and sweats.
Back to the OT, do women dress like women? Yes, if those observing will get there heads out of 1963 television.

[Tamara Croft]

Some people are just so ungrateful :eek:

:lol:

You do realise, that I'm the one who will get slapped for taking this thread off topic don't you!!!

So, back on topic (you go sit on the naughty step Anne!!) about clothing :D

I find most mtf cd's on this forum are 'mature' generation and have 'old style' values.. which makes me wonder, perhaps they are actually trying to dress like their mothers?? Me and my mum do not have the same taste in anything and I mean, absolutely nothing!! I can see something and hate it and buy it for my mum because she'll love it lol... like clothes... urgh... I've taken her shopping for clothes a few times, I gave up, I get her beautiful clothes, they look fab on her... and the next week she's taking them back!!

She doesn't dress like her mother, my gran wore that many layers of clothing (seriously old fashioned), I'm surprised she didn't need the next dress size up to fit over them all!!

I went sorta off topic again... yeah I'm going to get slapped :hiding:

[Nicole Erin]

When they talk about women not dressing femme enough - It is pretty much the fetish/fantasy style at work on their minds. You hear some CD's talk about a tranny event and you hear about all these long, flowing beautiful gowns and dresses.
Yeah it might be fun to watch or dress that way at special events but trying to do that kind of crap daily would get tiresome real fast. The fantasy clothing is best left for home entertainment anyways.

Most days if the weather is warm I have a cute blouse and shorts and in cold weather it is slacks instead of shorts.

For TS dressing - it is true we need to put forth a bit more effort. I know some TS who wear raggedy jeans and concert tee shirts and then wonder why they have a hard time passing or being taken serious. A bit more effort means something more femme than androgynous. It doesn't mean running around in a cinderella gown.

[Badtranny]

Pretty sure I've had to shave my woolly legs today... they are getting more sparse as I get older, but if I left them all winter, I could make a nice woolly coat out of the hairs ;)

So having a Va-Jay Jay doesn't make a difference then? ;-)

I only shave once a month or so probably, maybe we could start a "Locks of Love" style movement? We could donate our leg hair to those that don't have any.

[Tamara Croft]

OMG Melissa, you're killing me... that made me laugh so much haha!!! We could just give them all to Anne, she could make a fur coat... I know she wants one really lol ;)

(sorry Nigella... it isn't me... it's that Melissa lol!!)

[sandra-leigh]

Somewhere I saw a picture of tights designed to have obvious hair -- for use by women who want to downplay their looks. (You know the old "you were attacked because you dressed so attractively" malarky. Or, I suppose, even just a woman who wanted to have a quiet drink at a bar without having guys hover all over her.)

[thechic]

I dress mostly casual except when going to work always jeans, or if it out and about I wear a dress or skirt, it just depends of the mood and what im doing.
Why do you ask , just because am ts am I meant to dress different.

[gonegirl]

The notion that a woman should dress a certain way because a man says so is extremely sexist, whether it's on this site or IRL.

But let's face it, when a dude on this site states that women should wear pretty dresses then his rhetoric is going to be entwined with his desire to wear one himself. It's just the way it is.

[LeaP]

The comment is entirely a CD weirdism.

They mean that women don't dress in feminine clothing any longer. I don't know what planet they come from, because it's rare enough that I see a woman wearing truly male or truly androgynous clothing - IN A WAY THAT LESSENS THEIR FEMININITY - that they stick out like a sore thumb. Besides, fashion is bigger than ever, and reaches more broadly and deeply into the population than ever before.

[Kathryn Martin]

If you mean dressing like the modern women means wearing pyjama pants and a spandex top to the grocery store, then no I don't dress like the modern women. I dress in pants, tops, dresses, skirts, leggings, tights, tunics, suits heels, flats, sandals, shirts, blouses, socks depending on how I feel in the morning and who I am going to see or where I have to go. I wax my legs three times a year because little or nothing grows there, and I hate pants in the heat of the summer.

I wear make-up under the less is more maxim, and take care of my skin.

While I find the line "women don't dress like women anymore" amusing and sexist (depending on who the line comes from) I often think: "oh honey, did you look in the mirror before you left the house." But then so does Elizabeth and almost all women I work with. The County where I live has two women with a transsexual history in a population of 35,000 and I am one of them.

[Michelle.M]

Kathryn makes some excellent points here. If the fight for equality has taught me anything it's that a woman ought to be able to do her own thing without judgement. So, dangit, if I wanna wear a dress and heels I'm gonna do it!

And, like Kathryn, I also make many other wardrobe choices depending on my mood, on the occasion and whatever other factors are applicable. But for so many women, dressing appropriately for the occasion is a foreign concept.

Individually, we like to look our best but as a group, women today are slobs. In Europe they roll their eyes when they see Americans coming, because we look like trash. I'd be ashamed to be seen in some of the stuff I see women wearing in public.

Same here. I do not dress like modern women and I'm proud of it!

[Marleena]

I deleted my earlier replies because some of the Cders who make or agree with those type of comments might be offended.

I'm convinced the "people of Walmart" webpages aren't doing us any favors.:sad:

[Tamara Croft]

those type of comments might be offended.Seriously?? I snipped your post to quote it... but seriously?? They offend me every single time they say it, they offend me everytime they say they look better than their wives, they offend me when they dress like hookers and go out thinking they look fab...

I think I'm gonna go sit on the step... cus I'm getting annoyed. Marleena, don't delete your comments because you think someone is going to get offended, they can pull their big girl panties up and get a grip... and if anyone is offended by my comments, well... I care not!

[ReineD]

Individually, we like to look our best but as a group, women today are slobs. In Europe they roll their eyes when they see Americans coming, because we look like trash. I'd be ashamed to be seen in some of the stuff I see women wearing in public.

Well, if in Europe they roll their eyes when they see Americans coming, this means men as well as women. Please stop targeting women.

I do agree that the manner of dress in some pockets of the US and Canada (don't know about other countries) has become very casual. I would not quantify that as being a slob or looking trashy. The values are different is all.

[Michelle.M]

Well, if in Europe they roll their eyes when they see Americans coming, this means men . . .

. . . it does . . .


. . . as well as women.

It does as well.


Please stop targeting women.

I wasn't. But we do happen to be talking about women and how we, as women, choose to dress. So women are the topic, not a target.


I do agree that the manner of dress in some pockets of the US and Canada (don't know about other countries) has become very casual. I would not quantify that as being a slob or looking trashy.

And I did not use the term "casual" because that word did not apply to my (or Kathryn's) observations and comments. Any rational person knows the difference between sloppy and trashy as opposed to casual and relaxed.

[Megan G]

Well, if in Europe they roll their eyes when they see Americans coming, this means men as well as women.

I whole heartedly could not agree more!! I am starting to see more and more baseball caps worn by guys to weddings.... formal, traditional weddings!! Society as a whole has become more casual, not just women...

And I seen Marlenna's post and agree you should not have deleted it, it was right on the money..

[Nigella]

Thanks for all the responses. I did not intend this to become as controversial as it has. It was just a straw poll on how women dressed in certain situations and the reasons why. I can understand the frustration and annoyance of us women when how we dress is called into question, but I don't want this to cause a rift on this forum, Thread Done :)