Arrested for CD--public indecency?

[sexyjean88]

Are there verified stories of girls getting arrested for CD in public because the cop thought she was being indecent in public?

Want to try venturing out more risque but am alittle fearful of consequences.

[Karren H]

I don't know of any.... but decency is decency.... it transcends gender.... so if risque is aka indecent.... take bail money! lol

[CynthiaD]

I can remember a time when it was illegal almost everywhere for a man to wear a skirt or a dress. All the T-girls wore women's slacks. Thank God those days are over.

[Tracii G]

If you are a fetish dresser keep those outfits for home.
Dress like a tramp/hooker you will be treated like one, remember that while you are calling someone to bail you out.
I'm all for freedom to dress the way you want but use some common sense

[Launa]

Don't wear those 6" thigh high pvc boots, mini skirt, belly shirt and hang around the red light district asking people if the want to party and you'll be ik.

[Rogina B]

Want to try venturing out more risque but am alittle fearful of consequences.
Please don't!!! We don't need what comes from that....Wear a long coat to the fetish club and once inside,have at it!!!

[KateSpade83]

I live right behind a hospital and I've gone there a rare few times dressed but they told me not to go in the women's restroom or they'll get security on me.

[Rachelakld]

While some singers like negative publicity, I try to keep CDing respectful and more mainstream otherwise everyone will think we are the same as "that CD" on youtube

[NathalieX66]

Never had it happen to me. I walk by mall cops, and don;t appear to notice or care.

[Tracii G]

Looking risque in public is more of a dis service to the CD image.People think we are pervs and pedophiles already why would you want prove their image of us to be true.
Does your wife dress that way in public? I'll bet she doesn't.

[Tamara Croft]

Tracii took the words right out of my mouth. You see you want to go out risque, you do that, but when you get arrested for it, that's another notch on the CD communities belt for even more of a bad reputation :rolleyes: And if you give this board a bad name, then I'll be one very pissed off Admin!

[Sophie_C]

Yes, the stonewall riots were started because of this, but that was back in 1969.

The gay community has done a pretty effective job of whitewashing the TS/TV/CD aspect out of it, haven't they?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ashley-love/on-stonewall-riot-initiat_b_634115.html

It is worth noting that socially, there was little distinction between all sorts of various crossdressing and trans things back then due to how marginalized the GLBT community was.

In recent times, though? Not really. You're more of a risk of being murdered from a random person, with the police not protecting you and the killer set free:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/parker-marie-molloy/charges-dropped-islan-nettles-murder_b_4309549.html

[joanna4]

You won't get arrested. Can't get arrested for CD.

[Amanda Shaft]

Over here the Police are supposed to treat and address transgendered people in the manor that they are presenting: so if I get pulled over for speeding the officer would address me as madam and treat me thus. All my encounters with the Police have seen them act impeccably I might add. As for what's a decent way to dress on the street will of course depend where you are, go out on a Saturday night in most places and you will see some pretty wild outfits worn by gg's. I have to agree though that essentially we, as a group, should be careful to portray the right image in public if we wish to be more generally accepted. Just ask what would my sister/wife/mother be wearing in this place at this time? Keep it fun though!
Amanda x

[Helen_Highwater]

Unless the law has changed, in England(might be different in Scotland and Wales), it's not illegal to be naked in public. What will get you arrested is if you do so to deliberately offend or be sexual in your behavior, i.e. wave your man bits about at passers by. I suspect in this day and age you'd have to do something fairly extreme to get arrested just because of how you were dressed. Watch the young GG's queuing to get into a club and some of them are wearing little more than a wide belt and half a handkerchief, oh and killer heels!

[Kate Simmons]

Well, Yeah! Just remember wearing white shoes with a black purse is definitely a sign of indecency and offends the finer sensibilities of many. :heehee::)

[Beverley Sims]

Decent is good, risque is risky.
It has all been said.
There was an indecent exposure case on the 50s where a guy dressed as a girl had his blouse open on the top two buttons.
He was arrested because you could see his cleavage.
They also thought he was a hooker.
No charges were laid and times have changed a little. :)

[Allison_Leslie]

I am of the notion here that it is best to act decently while in public due to the general idea of CD's in the first place as it has been stated here already, and for risque attire and actions I'd highly advise private residences and parties instead. :) We really do not want to be set back in everyone's thoughts on crossdressing because we are misrepresented so PLEASE do not do anything rash...

[linda allen]

You didn't indicate how "risque" you want to be, but this is the sort of thing that gives crossdressers a bad reputation. You also didn't indicate what country or what state you live in. Laws are not the same all over the world.

Dress appropriately and you'll be fine. Leave the hooker outfit in the closet.

[tylia]

love the Kate Bush quote....had almost forgotten that Kate

[susan jackson]

Many years ago, when attending a live performance of 'The Rocky Horror Show', I was nearly arrested because the policeman thought I was a prostitute!

[Stephanie47]

I fairly sure if a cop would arrest a GG who is dressed as a hooker, he would certainly arrest a man in a dress who looked like a hooker. In my locale there are street signs posted alerting hookers that it is a hooker free zone. That means, if you have been arrested as a hooker you are barred from being on the streets there. Of course, the police will stop and make inquiries of women or men who appear to be hookers.

Yes, take bail money if you're going to walk the streets. Otherwise, wear a long coat or call a cab to go to a club.

[Janet Bern]

My suggestion is that you should dress modestly and you wont have a problem at all
There are plenty of us around that are never noticed as a CD and if they dont pass
well are for the most part ignored.
Dress to blend

[Briana90802]

Actually it depends on where you live. But legally if you're not showing any brain things should be fine. Also west Hollywood after dark I'm sure you'll fit in with all the clubbing GGs and and dances.

[Lexi Moralas]

I had a incident with the police while dressed a couple of years ago. It turned out fine , ultimately didn't matter how I was dressed and I was actually dressed like and the cop did at first think I was a hooker.lol it's kind of a funny story, ill post about it sometime. I wouldn't go to the mall dressed like that but something I just feel like being out I the work looking a little trashy. And I think that's fine so long as you are careful where you go. The obvious choice would be appropriately themed club. But what if you can only dress during the day ? Which was usual the case for me. I would go to an " adult shop"
Now I am 100% straight , and not into sex toys or anything like that and normally wouldn't go to a place like that. But when I am in the mood to dress like that it seems the perfect place to go. I browse the lingerie ect. But you have to expect that you might get hit on and that some people will assume you are a hooker. But over all you should be fine as long as you are not walking around town dressed like that. A short skirt and thigh high boot don't seem all that out of place in a store that sells them lol , good luck

[BillieJoEllen]

Back in the days when I started going out in public one could and would be arrested for cross dressing. That stigma stayed with me all my adult life and if I'm out my heart practically stops beating if I see a police officer. My parents were very friendly with our city police officers and I remember one fourth of July when some police were talking to my folks and some or their other friends. They were talking about a man caught downtown wearing women's clothes. He was arrested and received 30 days plus a hefty citation. The police didn't have one nice thing to say about him. They used some very derogatory terms.

I'm glad the laws have changed and that the police have to treat CDers more compassionately and with respect.

[Nicole Erin]

Often when a TG gets harassed it is because of wearing something risque like maybe a skirt that is too short, fetish shoes, or something trashy. It doesn't have as much to do with being "read" as it does looking respectable or not.
Well like this - say you go out dressed decent like something for the office - people might know you are TG but won't say anything or really care.

That has been my experience over the years anyways. I have been on the occasional CD side and now full time. Out in a blouse and slacks, I have never had rude comments. It is only when my skirt was too short or something like shorts, black hose, and heels that people feel the need to say rude crap.

As far as arrest - if you do go out looking risque, just stay out of the bad parts. You probably won't get arrested but no need to draw attention of the thugs and cops.

[Wildaboutheels]

Dress however you want, carry yourself and walk with confidence, [not a VS runway model] and TREAT PEOPLE RIGHT, and most any reasonable person will give you a "pass" - as in not give a rat's behind about what you are wearing.

It's just that simple.

[Chickhe]

You won't be arrested for dressing, but if you look like you are doing something else you could be. Suppose you decide to dress up and go walk around the local red light district for fun....where people are already upset about drugs and prostitution in their neighborhood...you are adding to the perception of a problem...you could rightly ask why don't you dress up like that and walk around in front of your own house? Would you? I think the answer is to dress up for the place you are going...if it is a club and everyone dresses like that, then go for it. Don't go someplace where the norm is much different...you'll face unwanted public attention.

[LelaK]

Just ask what would my sister/wife/mother be wearing in this place at this time?
Why wouldn't you ask what would my brother or father wear?

Taboos don't get broken if some of the people don't start breaking them.

No one can speak for me or represent me. What another CD does doesn't represent me. It doesn't represent any group I'm in either.

[AmyGaleRT]

Tamara makes a good point: when we go out dressed, we are, in some respects, not only expressing ourselves, but are acting as representatives for the entire community of crossdressers. Our decisions to go out looking too much like a "working girl" headed out to East Colfax may reflect badly on our sisters as well as ourselves. It doesn't matter whether we consider ourselves "representatives" or not; that's how we will be perceived by the public. We can either ignore this, to our possible detriment, or we can make this perception work for us.

Early on, I had to remind myself of this as I balked at stepping out the front door: "I'm not being 'indecent,' I'm fully dressed...and quite nicely, too, if I do say so myself!"

- Amy

[AnntoAnn]

Some time ago I was on the motorway at night with the wife dressed when a few cars ahead there was an accident. I saw the hole thing as one car changed lanes without signalling pushing anther car into the central reservation that then collided with anther. Five cars in total! I stopped in time and we got out to help. the motorway was completely blocked and after checking every one, no one was hurt badly just shook up we returned to our car and let the emergency services do their job. The police come over and took a statement, it was then I realised I would have to give my male name "SH!T" I could have died on the spot. He just took all the details and never batted an eyelid, even said "thank you Miss we will be in touch"

[Lorileah]

While I agree with the idea that "I" represent the "community" (which in this case are the CDs and TSs) the OP may represent the fetish community or the drag community, where standards are different :idontknow: ? Sort of the same thing when I am told to dress my age (still looking for the women's 4o-60 department at the store, for some reason I end up in misses). I would love that everyone here look like classy Professional (not that profession) upper middle class or higher, nice make up appropriate to work or a nice dinner out. I am sure there are a few here who would tell me I overdress, I don't fit the profile. 19 degrees F here today and I am wearing a sweater dress and leggings...the rules would state I should be in slacks, boots and a fleece top with a down jacket. (Colorado girls here will attest though that even at this temperature you will see people in shorts and flip flops with a ski jacket) Gee I hope I don't draw attention to "us".

There are a lot of things in our community I don't really care for. I would like to destroy the stereotypes too. I don't like over the top or fetish outside of where it is commonly found, but we spend a lot of time here telling people to be themselves. There are some here that dress in "Goodwill store explosion" because they can't afford a wide wardrobe.

In western civilization, covering your "naughty bits" is all that is required in most areas. What you cover it with is your concern. In other parts of the world laws vary.

[bimini1]

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/breaking-news/augusta-man-arrested-wearing-only-a-turban-and-hig/nbxhm/


you mean like this?

[Jaylyn]

I don't think that example Bimini1 is a very good example he had on heels and nothing else was his public indecency charge. Now mix stupidity with all the drugs he had and I would say him wearing heels had very little to do with why they arrested him. I bet he might have been arrested if he had been fully dressed. Don't mix drugs with CD ing... Lol ( or any thing else for that matter)

[AmyGaleRT]

That's true. The man was wearing only a turban and his heels when he was arrested. I don't think his choice of footgear would have made any difference; he could have substituted sneakers, wingtips, or snowshoes, and he'd still have been arrested.

Don't do drugs, kids, stay in school. :D

- Amy

[sometimes_miss]

You won't get arrested. Can't get arrested for CD.

I'm not sure. As of the 70's there were still laws on the books in many places that were interpreted to define a man dressed as a woman as wearing a disguise of some sort, which was considered a crime somehow. I don't know how may of those laws are still in effect, but I'm sure there are some places where they are, even though they may not be currently enforced. There are a lot of outdated laws that are still on the books. Might be interesting to know if this is one of them in everyone's town.

[LelaK]

In Samoa female impersonation was illegal until very recently as per
http://www.qnews.com.au/article/samoa-female-impersonation-no-longer-a-crime
even though the law was always ignored since it was first passed in 1961, because local culture appreciates crossdressers as a third gender.

I also found a 1972 Miami newspaper article that said Miami had just struck down a law against female impersonation at that time, I think just before it hosted the Republican National Convention (for Nixon's second term).

It seems totally illogical to say that anyone represents anyone else, unless they sign a statement to that effect. Even then I think it's false. If we represent each other in public, does that mean when the public comes here to read our messages all of our messages represent all of us? Or do our statements in public represent all of us? Or only when we're dressed in public? Every now and then people here and there sound rather crazy to me. I guess that represents all CDs.

[kimdl93]

if you dress in an age and situation appropriate manner, then there's nothing to worry about. As others have said, decent is decent - indecent, well as the Supreme Court Justice once said, you'll know it when you see it. If your going to the Rocky Horror Show or a fetish ball, that's one thing. If you're going to the mall, dress accordingly.

[mikiSJ]

If you live near a large city - go to a Fetish Ball.

If you want to walk down mainstreet - ANYWHERE - dressed like a hooker, you'll be treated likewise.

I would not be so concerned about bail money but rather the attention (unwanted or otherwise) you'll be getting sitting in a crowded intact holding cell with a bunch of angry guys.