View Full Version : So... Just how straight of a guy are you??
DollMaria
05-08-2014, 07:37 AM
I've always enjoyed gay porn. I'm married and have kids, never slept with a man and am only interested in sex with my wife. How straight am I? I don't actually care.
When I first got a taste for gay porn I was unattached and in a liberal enough environment that having sex with men would have been a straight forward proposition. I frequented the odd gay club or pub but never felt the desire to have sex with a man. Am I 100% straight? No. Am I gay? No.
I like what I like. Which includes cross dressing and watching gay porn.
RayanneA
05-08-2014, 01:28 PM
.like the male body to look at and be sexual with,but the though of kissing a male doesnt do muchAnd that's the way I felt for a long time. I had discovered that I had no problem looking at or fondling another man's genitals or even performing oral sex on another man--especially if I was dressed as and playing the part of the woman, but I was attracted to the female form, not the male form and the thought of kissing a male just didn't appeal. So the first time a prospective male sexual partner kissed me, I really didn't expect it and was a bit shocked. But it kind of grew on me. A kiss is a kiss. Especially if it is leading to more. I know that being bi seems to be the exception here, but what can I say. I really like sex with women. And I found out that I can really like sex with another man too.
So "straight" I'm not. Maybe bent more than a little.
typhoidmary
05-08-2014, 01:33 PM
I went through a phase when I was 18 in which I had a couple sexual encounters with men, it really didn't do much for me at all. I can find men attractive but it's usually when they're very feminine looking, in general I identify as straight even though a lot of people find that hard to believe.
savannaxdrsser
05-08-2014, 01:47 PM
Very interesting thread! I have always thought of myself as hetro, but have always been open to all types of lifestyles. I never thought my dressing was gay, more of a gender-bending and letting my feminine side shine through. I have looked at porn, all types and do find the ones featuring CD's and Trans most arousing. A female friend thought i may be bisexual, we did talk about it and i did reveal my crossdressing and feminine side. She was and is very supportive, but as i though of it, I do consider myself very bi-curious, mostly for feminine men and other CD's. I do get aroused when watching some gay porn, it can be very erotic!
abbylhr
05-11-2014, 01:04 AM
How straight am I? I don't like shopping.
Erika_girliegirl
05-11-2014, 01:58 AM
I always had considered myself straight until the opportunity presented itself and I went for it. I've had a few experiences on both sides so I consider myself bi because I like to be with men and women. Best of both worlds ;)
JessicaJJ
05-11-2014, 03:29 AM
Im straight but if a man is sexy then i will say it to his face or say it out loud lol as gay as that sounds right now but i find men atractive too but not in a way that i would date the guy, having said that i do have a gay friend that i got it together once with when i was very young as i wanted to know what it was like to be with a guy and it was a totally different experiance, it was nice because i felt first hand what it was like playing the girl and being dress as a girl too it was a lovely feeling i felt so loved by my friend because hes such a lovely experienced guy, that all said being with a guy vs girl i still knew what side i wanted and made my mind up that i wasnt gay just bi curious, in my eyes a womans love is hard to beat.
tightsplease1986
05-11-2014, 03:52 AM
I am going to reveal something here that nobody else knows...I've had sexual contact with another man, was many years ago but to be honest it didn't do anything for me at all, all the excitement was on his side (he was bi-sexual) and I can safely say I am only turned on by women, so I guess that makes me totally straight!
kaylyn
05-11-2014, 01:18 PM
I am 100% straight. I do not find men attractive at all. I just like to look pretty and the fact that women's clothing is more comfortable than men's is just a plus.
CrossJess
05-11-2014, 04:13 PM
Lol straight? Errmm haha yea right, gay as anything me, love men far to much to even to be bi lol
Deborah
05-11-2014, 04:35 PM
If i do watch porn I imagine that I'm the girl. So where that places me....who knows
Christina Sevilla
05-11-2014, 05:28 PM
I used to be attracted more to girls and some guys. But lately i have been thinking alot about guys and to be honest craving for them now. I used to think i might be a lesbian when i finally change my sex but from what iv'e been thinking of lately i may become a heterosexual woman. :)
StephanieinSecret
05-11-2014, 09:38 PM
I'm definitely bisexual. Anything involving gender-bending, such as andogyny or transexualism, is very interesting to me. Although I am not "out" with my dressing, I have openly had both boyfriends and girlfriends in monagamous relationships. I dont think men are as attention-grabbing visually as women, but I consider it to be an apples-to-oranges comparison anyways. I really can't decide which one I like more! :daydreaming:
michelle64
05-12-2014, 06:08 PM
i dont like guys touching me..I dont like guys in general..I dont like to hang out with any guys period..all my friends are genetic broads..I aint gay or bi..nuff said
Samantha Clark
05-12-2014, 06:25 PM
I am 100% straight. I do not find men attractive at all. I just like to look pretty and the fact that women's clothing is more comfortable than men's is just a plus.
Ditto for me. Especially the pretty (I wish) part!
mechamoose
05-12-2014, 10:23 PM
Straight.. strait.. straaight.
You (we) wear skirts & heels. You really have to ask this?
Sexual attraction & presentation have *nothing* to do with each other, sweetie,
You are who you are, you like what you like.
- MM
PaulaQ
05-12-2014, 11:00 PM
Updating my answer based on my best available self-knowledge. Still not a guy (thank goodness!) - but unfortunately bisexual. It's not that there's anything wrong with being bisexual - that's not why I say "unfortunately" - it's just that men annoy me. It'd be easier to just be a lesbian. Yet I'm still really attracted to men, if I'm honest with myself. Dammit.
JamieTG
05-13-2014, 02:01 PM
I'm not attracted to masculine males however I'm extremely attracted to a "girl" with something extra. I discovered this when I was in my mid 20's and in the military. I spent some time in Singapore and Thailand and couldn't believe how beautiful and sexy the ladyboys were.
AlanaG
05-13-2014, 06:26 PM
I tend to be bi but has to be the right guy. Muscular macho hairy guys turn me off big time. More effeminate and effeminate cds and traps interest me a great deal. I would love to have a good time with the right one. A girl with something extra without any body hair. I hate hair in my meals.
LittleMissJoanna
05-13-2014, 06:45 PM
When I'm her, I can only picture myself pleasing a man and being pleased like a woman by a man, I am almost obsessed with the penis, it's part of my persona, and part of the kink I get out of being a woman, I guess that's what validates me as a woman somehow, however, when I undress or when I'm dressed as him, I have zero attraction towards men, I am no longer in the female situation and therefore I am completely straight and will only look at and get physically attracted to women. It is very strange. Sometimes I will have to pleasure myself just to get over the sexual urge that I have to cross dress and be a woman and please a man and be pleased like a woman, and once I have orgasmed, the desire completely disappears, for a while it turned directly to disgust/denial but I have gotten used to it, I have accepted this as a part of who I am, a man, with the occasional desire to be a woman and to live like one, even sexually. Hope it helps, Joanna ;) xx
wanda66
05-13-2014, 07:22 PM
After some thought the ture is I would as a male, welcome a sexy trangender woman. If she wants to be a lady I would treat her as such.with all of the attention I could gather. Unfortunately I have not had that opportunity as of yet......
For me gradually over time I have started to have an interest in men, right now I am bi curious, mostly interested in women but also am interested in other CD's, transgendered, right now I don't care what a person has down below, someday if I did find a partner I would prefer either another CD, transgendered or a GG girl.
Eselka
05-14-2014, 03:23 AM
Lately I've moved to the attitude that "gay, straight, meh, they're just two labels. If you meet a person that you gel with, that's what matters."
That's exaclty how I feel ! I guess you could say I am "humansexual" :)
Sharon B.
05-14-2014, 05:03 AM
Straight as a male but when I am dressed as a woman I often think about having a man take me and being able to please him. Over all I would say I am Bi, even though I haven't acted on having a man or pleasing one.
Tami Monroe
05-14-2014, 05:28 PM
I agree. While in male mode, I am strictly straight. However, once I get dressed up, I have fantasies about being pleased by, and pleasing men.
sissystephanie
05-15-2014, 12:06 AM
Having been married to my darling wife for almost 50 years before cancer took her, and never having any thoughts of trying anything else I guess I would be classified as a very "straight" person. However, I do have some thoughts, or curiosity, about what it would be like to actually be treated as a woman! And I do mean completely!
ronny0
05-16-2014, 12:59 AM
Well.... Pushing far past my prime.....
Never had a gay relationship / desire.....
I am amazed at how attractive many CD's are......
I am not sure what that makes me, as it is (IMO) the female presentation that sparks the attraction......
Still I have to say that when I am dressed as a fem, I feel gratitude / excitement when guys find me attractive / enticing.
Might also be the aspect that it is far more exciting to be the person being chased rather than the person doing the chasing.
To try to say that another way, as a guy you rarely know when a woman finds you desirable.
But dressed as a woman it is extremely thrilling to find people that see me as attractive / desirable, and they show that emotion openly.
Seana Summer
05-16-2014, 04:25 AM
How straight is Seana?
If something happened to my GG S.O. I would be looking for another GG. Sorry to those on this board who may be disappointed by that, but yes I have made up my mind from an early age (without "experimentation") that I wanted a woman in my life. There is just something about GGs that is attractive to me beyond compare.
At one time I seriously considered wanting to meet some of my acquaintances who also CD, but I am very hesitant because it seems like too many are obsessed with this sex thing. Why would I want to meet another CD if not for sex? you may be asking......well it is one thing to chat online with those who have been down the same road. But to meet another in person would seem like greater verification that I am not the only guy who likes to wear dresses and yet is straight.
Sometimes, I still wonder if I am a rarity
Mollyanne
05-16-2014, 06:24 AM
Me personally, I am "bent around the edges"!!!!! I am bi and have had my expectations realized and "let down" as well. I am probably more on the "gay" side than I realize.
Molly
shimmeryphantasy
05-17-2014, 02:28 PM
for me , I have always been straight.... living in a small town .... I have always been in the closet..... as for the porn I like to watch it has always just been women in satin lingerie and hosiery until lately , maybe the last couple years ... I started finding a few vids of cds wearing hose and satin gowns that I seem to like a lot because its like I know how good that must be feeling.... kinda weird though is that I only seem to like them if they are self filmed or I guess that is what is called point of view POV ? If it is a vid of a guy and a girl I don't seem to like it if I can see the guys face .... so guess that makes me a little confused .... I've never been with another CD but sometimes I think I would like to play with someone in a big pile of satin nighties and hosiery.....
mechamoose
05-17-2014, 03:12 PM
I see this as a 'roles' issue for some. If you are accepting a 'submissive' role while 'en femme', then you are "flexible" on orientation.
If your inner image is a girl, and you get a case of 'helium heels' in that mode when presented with a big burly MALE who WANTS you.. then you ate NOT straight. I'm not going to make a claim on what you ARE, but it ISN'T straight.
Why get hung up on that? You like what you like. Why are you so worried about the label?
-MM
SHINY-J
05-17-2014, 03:18 PM
I agree. While in straight mode, I am strictly straight. However, once I get dressed up, I have fantasies about being pleased by, and pleasing men.
This is exactly where I fall in as well...
Alexis
05-17-2014, 09:03 PM
I've had sexual encounters with both men & women, and to be honest I've enjoyed my encounters far more with men than women.
Dating however, I prefer women. I've tried to start relationships with men and they've all gone no where, women I've had much more luck with and honestly I prefer a relationship much more with women, although that could be attributed to my dating life going no where with men.
So I'd say I'm not that straight at all, I guess "bi" is a good a word as any to describe me.
PaulaQ
05-17-2014, 09:58 PM
Why get hung up on that? You like what you like. Why are you so worried about the label?
Fear of losing hetero privilege / homophobia / denial.
Oh, what a complicated answer to such a simple question. I have no desire for sex with anyone, but I would like a relationship with a woman, just not one that involves sex. I am not sure what you would call it but that is where i am at.
StarrOfDelite
05-20-2014, 04:00 PM
Since the OP framed the issue in the form of a question relating to porn I thought that I'd reply to this thread. I am a late bloomer as a crossdresser. I thought I was soooo straight when I younger! In the early/mid 1990's I was surfing the early internet, looking at porn, of course, when I saw my first transgender site. It was pretty mild stuff, mostly just girls with boob jobs and that something extra posing in the nude. I was fascinated, and, being of an adventurous spirit, I decided that I had to find out what those girls were all about. I dated a few as an Admirer, and then began to realize that I didn't want to be the Admirer, I wanted to be the trans-girl. I started dressing, and since my interest was sexual to begin with, I segued into being the girl with other crossdressers, and then into dating men. I still think of myself as bisexual, but the truth is that I haven't had a sexual experience with a woman for a relatively long time, and have had relations with quite a few men in the same period of time.
It's not purely a physical thing. Psychologically, I like the feeling of being the one who is desired. I like being the person who is being pursued, the one who gets bottles of wine, and invitations for drinks and dinner from her dates. I sometimes feel that I am more in control as a woman than I ever was as a man.
Paulacder
05-20-2014, 05:08 PM
Have never met a totally Hetro. crossdresser.....
Paula_Femme
05-20-2014, 07:57 PM
Have never met a totally Hetro. crossdresser.....
You need to get out more!!! :heehee:
http://www.crossdressers.com/forums/showthread.php?183293-Crossdresser-but-straight
http://www.experienceproject.com/stories/Want-To-Know-If-You-Think-Crossdressers-Are-Gay/1847982
http://www.susans.org/forums/index.php?topic=54838.0
http://www.mycdlife.com/2009/05/crossdressing-myth-1-crossdressers-are-gay
http://balkwell.myweb.uga.edu/kimberj.html
Crossdressersquirks
05-24-2014, 08:05 AM
As straight as can be pretty much.
Alice-n-wonderland
05-24-2014, 08:26 AM
I like gurls, whats that mean?
Erica Marie
06-18-2014, 06:13 AM
I can totally relate to this. I knew I was bisexual many years ago but I never realized why it was only towards other cd or tg types. To this day I prefer women but still have an attraction to males dressed as females, yet I have no attraction what-so-ever to genetic looking males. Sure makes being tg tougher than it already is.
Donnagirl
06-18-2014, 06:36 AM
I'm pretty sure I'm as hetro as you can get... Only interested in girls (well one girl, married her 17 years ago).
NavyM2F_WAM
06-18-2014, 07:09 AM
I'm a hetero man. I don't like other men. After I become a woman, I still want to be with women.
CrossJess
06-18-2014, 07:30 AM
I do get aroused when watching some gay porn, it can be very erotic!
Really? Does nothing for me what so ever lol you think it would me being gay and all, yet I can see why guys would get turned on when you have man with girl porn I get more turned on by that perhaps it's because inside I see my self as a female and for that reason I side with the female as it's the roll I prefer to take while sleeping with my bf
Desirae
06-18-2014, 10:44 AM
Truth be told, I have no idea how straight of a guy I am. I have only and always dated exclusively women. I have only had sex with women. When I was much, much younger, perhaps around 11 or 12, my next door neighbor male friend made a pass at me while we were wrestling around in my dad's basement as a lot of boys that age do. I think he was a year or two older than me. He started stroking my back and legs if I remember right, in a sexual way. I got immediately uncomfortable with it and pushed myself away from him and diffused the situation. Needless to say, things were never the same between us again. Years later, when the Catholic abuse scandal came to light, I started wondering if this friend had been abused, since he was an alter boy in a nearby Catholic church. I don't know if that happened or had anything to do with it. It just made me think about it. I have no idea where he lives now nor whether he is gay, or bi, or was just experimenting. And before I get a bunch of flack, I know that not all Catholic alter boys get abused by priests. I was just iterating something I thought about.
Several years later in high school, I had another friend who made a pass at me in his bedroom. No, we we weren't there for that "kind" of thing. We were both into music and we were thinking of starting a band. He was into "space" things and astronomy, too. He had painted the Milky Way galaxy onto his ceiling in luminescent paint of some kind that glowed in the dark. We were listening to some music (probably Pink Floyd) and he turned off the lights and we were checking out the ceiling. Eventually, his hands started rubbing on my back and chest. Immediately, again, I got uncomfortable, got up, and turned the light on and put a stop to it. Again, this friend and I were never the same again.
When I'm dressed I sometimes have "fantasies" about "playing" the female role in a relationship, but I guess that would be with a heterosexual man, not a gay man. But, that's all they are, just fantasies. I really have no attraction to the male body.
That's why I started this post with I'm not sure how straight of a guy I am.
Lexi_83
06-18-2014, 11:53 AM
// Behind that "over 21" door or alone with your computer... Just how straight a boy are ya?I think a lot of tgirls are turned on by the thought of hooking up with a guy, but don't take action on it.
I think of myself as a "third gender" and why I am attracted to certain people is often a mystery. I spent nine months trying to seduce a straight divorced guy.
Sc0rp10N
06-18-2014, 12:33 PM
I tend to think less about the labels of sexual orientation and basically do what feels good. I would have to put myself in an intermediate category between straight and bicurious. I am curious, but only mildly. I'm almost 100% straight. I don't find men attractive, but I do think sex would be fun on the receiving end. I LOVE women and find only about half of them unattractive. Which in my book, is a very small percentage.
Saepe
06-18-2014, 04:02 PM
I'm exclusively attracted to females, whether cis or trans. I suppose that makes me straight, although I've always been curious about the terminology when one's role-playing as a female or in the process of transitioning.
I'm also pretty bad at detecting whether a guy is good looking or not. I just know whether they look like they'd be my friend or not! *shrugs*
nicoletta_cd
06-20-2014, 01:35 AM
the older i get the more i can admit i am attracted to males. although women are still super hot and sexy, now i just find me the same way. i guess i am at the midpoint headed the other way... lol
Sometimes Steffi
06-20-2014, 08:10 PM
I actually had a couple of excellent gay opportunities when I was younger, and punted on both of them
Jenny Miller
06-21-2014, 07:20 AM
I suppose that I can also go into the category of not really sure how straight I am. In the past and when I'm in guy mode now, I have pretty much no interest in guys. However, as cding has become more prominent in my life, I have found myself thinking about guys in that way more often and especially so when I'm en femme. Even though I'm not really one for labels, I guess that puts me in the bi-curious category until I have a chance to experiment with a guy and can find out more definitely how I feel from that.
susmitha
06-21-2014, 07:49 AM
I am really straight. I want to dress up as a woman and be in the female role during intimacy. But I do not want a man to make love to me. I want my GG partner to dress as a man and treat me as a real woman during intimacy. In return, I will give the GG whatever is due to a real man and play the fem role happily. I don't know where it fits. I want role reversal and not being gay. It may be strange or abnormal, but please do not judge me.
joanna4
06-22-2014, 11:01 AM
Not so straight at all. Well I identify as straight and love pretty girls. I live a metrosexual life style. Dressing up and doing my hair. Also I show interest in fashion, hair, and makeup in boy mode and I'm totally fine with it.
Kristy 56
06-23-2014, 07:49 AM
Less sure than I was 6 months ago. Still have the fantasy of being with a couple ,getting all dolled up with the GG and being presented and coached to the SO for the whole fem experience. If given the opportunity ,not sure if I could pull it off though. The fantasy vs the reality could be very different. :)
JoanneCDSydney
06-24-2014, 02:38 AM
I've questioned myself over that endlessly as a teenager. Yep, used porn as a test, and the outcome: attracted to many women, some trans women, and a few effeminate men.
Lately I've moved to the attitude that "gay, straight, meh, they're just two labels. If you meet a person that you gel with, that's what matters."
IMHO, at some point the 'mechanics' of how you have sex are less important than the quality of the relationship. But I do understand why for some folks it absolutely must be a certain 'set of equipment'.
Totally agree with you there Jesse....
Marsha My Dear
06-30-2014, 11:41 AM
I don't have any interest in men. When I'm deep in a Pink Fog my wife doesn't hesitate to remind me 'I married a man', and I thoroughly enjoy everything about the 'guy' expectations she has. But she knows, and relishes, the fact that I have a complex and non-traditional personality. Marsha is how I express my feminine, and usually submissive, traits. Her force-of-nature personality lets her be very comfortable as Marsha's dominating Madame when she wants to.
I questioned myself about why I exclusively watch lesbians when I view porn. I realised it's because I want to be one of the women, especially if it involves submissive behaviour. I very strongly feel that if I were a GG, I would be a lesbian myself.
Lexi_83
06-30-2014, 01:59 PM
I don't have any interest in men. When I'm deep in a Pink Fog my wife doesn't hesitate to remind me 'I married a man', //The only part of cross dressing my ex-wife liked was shaven legs....
irene9999
06-30-2014, 10:21 PM
I'm mostly straight I guess... I definitely prefer GG females, but I'm also attracted to CDs/TS. I've even had a couple of brushes with other CDs and totally enjoyed it
NavyM2F_WAM
07-01-2014, 02:10 AM
I am exclusively attracted to women, as a straight man is. However, that is only genetic women. I don't know if I could be with a transgendered woman. It would have to be a post-op one, that looks like a genetic woman (as I want to become). After I transition to becoming a woman, I want to still be with genetic women. If the hormones make me attracted to trans-women, so be it.
atxpantyboy
07-01-2014, 08:31 AM
Not at all straight. 'Bi' is probably as accurate as anything else, but I'm not the least bit attracted to men emotionally. I have read that attraction can manifest in three main components, physical, sexual, and emotional. I'm very attracted to women in all three areas. Only sexually attracted to men, although I can appreciate them physically. They just don't cause me to turn my head for a second look like a beautiful woman does. But in the sack, I can have a blast with either, or both! I know I confuse the hell out of a lot of people, but I'm pretty comfortable with what I like and don't like.
Straight, bi... labels labels labels, they are so bad.
I am sexual attracted to GG, cd, ts and hermaphrodite as long as she identifies as a female.
When it comes to actual sexual activity I couldn't care less about the genital configuration as long as both parties feel good.
and emotionally I can love woman and men equally it just depends on the kind of person some is.
So I'm not straight or gay (obviously), I ain't bi cause i like cd ts and hermaphrodite. But pan is also wrong since I don't like men. :)
DQ Tanya
07-01-2014, 01:10 PM
for me, I dont draw a distinction between male and trans side of me...the trans one is the one I choose to be unless life forces me not to be...as has happened on a few occasions. For me, its masculine guys that blow my skirt....not even a little hetro.
People shouldnt get hung up on whatever they are though - diversity is one of the joys of the human experience
flutterby
07-01-2014, 02:31 PM
For me it is the feminine form that floats my boat. Regardless of what equipment you have, if you look fem or your actions are fem, better watch out! lol All genetic girls, CD's, trannys, ect..........
For instance, I do not smoke and find it repulsive, unless it reminds me of any of the super sexy the fem fatales from the old black and white movies, then for some strange reason I LOVE it! lol
Oh I sound so crazy!:devil:
LANKO
07-01-2014, 02:37 PM
Straight! But that doesn't mean I can't find a man attractive or even have a fantasy or two. Life would be so boring.
But mostly it's women!
janetcgtv
07-05-2014, 04:13 PM
Me:
A tree limb is straighter than me. My best friends are GG's but I prefer to be in bed with a man
herwannabe
07-07-2014, 10:30 PM
I know the game, but I dont play it. Straight as arrow >>>------->
mechamoose
07-07-2014, 10:40 PM
If a person is cool and interesting, WTF does it matter what bits they have? Did YOU get to choose your gender? Did THEY?
No.
There is physical attraction (lust) and emotional/intellectual attraction (identification).
If a person flips your triggers, then why does it matter?
- MM
Wasia
07-07-2014, 10:54 PM
mechamoose, yeah, you kinda right but.... Sexual attraction is different from just an attraction.
Just think about it this way:
If you take two people of opposite gender, and they both would be physically, emotionally, and intellectually attractive - will you try to make both of them to be your lovers? Or will one of them become a lover and the other - just a dear friend?
mechamoose
07-07-2014, 11:00 PM
Wasia,
I'd make them both lovers and have toe curling competitions... but I'm a ****.
It *really* doesn't matter to me. Male/Female/Trans/Herm.. if they are cool and interesting, I don't care about the rest. I will play with whatever they have!
Seriously...
So we're different colours
And we're different creeds
And different people have different needs
- Depeche Mode
- MM
VickiTheGamer
07-08-2014, 12:33 AM
99% sure straight. I just find the female form to be so alluring and desirable. Men can be Handsome and even cute, but not sexy. I do now ever appreciate a well built well cut man. Makes me think of the heros in comic books. Sexually though, I just get turned off by the Male Member. I can't even comfortably look at porn if the guy has it showing dramatically.
ArleneRaquel
07-08-2014, 12:34 AM
Since my wife died, in 2002, I have dated one lady(one time only) and many males.
MzVanessa
07-08-2014, 12:39 AM
When in male mode... I'm about 80% straight... Have never been with a man while in that version of me. Now Vanessa is a whole different story... She has dated a few men.
Michelle8
07-08-2014, 01:03 PM
Since I dress 80% of the time now I have thought about it a lot.I think i would definitely like to try a guy now.I have never done it before but I think about it a lot
now.Just want to experiment
Ugly Michele
07-08-2014, 02:03 PM
Well I love to be a party gurl when I am dressed, I become very willing to do many things that I would never do when I am in male mode. I am in fem mode most of the time now. Have not been with a GG in over 10 years, and could care less about my male part being used.
Kati F
07-08-2014, 08:24 PM
I'm not at all straight either... I love women first, nothing quite turns my head like a beautiful woman! But... there is something special about having sex with another man that makes it quite incredible in its own way.
Alana
07-08-2014, 09:58 PM
I'm totally bisexual, dressed or not. It's a lot more fun when I'm in full on gurl mode though.. Long red hair cascading over his thighs.. And yes, there is one special guy.
kaylyn
07-08-2014, 10:16 PM
Up until about 3 days ago I was straight. Then I went to a costume party dress all sexy and played truth or dare and I wound up having my first time with a guy. It was amazing both ways!!!! So yeah I'm absolutely bisexual now.
lpjamey
07-08-2014, 10:26 PM
Wow, the members here come up with some good questions! I consider my self as straight. I question my self on this for a long time because of my love of cross dressing.i didn't dress up for a long time and tried sex with a man on 2 different occasions and decided that it wasn't for me. I enjoy and love everything female. I'm small in the equipment department and im very uncomfortable around other men and women scare the hell out of me and I think that's why I dress, I can have both and I wont laugh at me:)
missVS
07-08-2014, 10:35 PM
Interesting answers here. From this I think there are more people that crossdress that are bi than actually gay. I have never experimented with the same sex and at age 50 I don't think it will ever happen. I love female and just don't or have attaction to male or the anatomy.
Stephanie47
07-09-2014, 11:40 AM
My male side has no interest in a sexual relationship with a man. On occasion when I was young and still very good looking I was "hit upon." Even with my wife present. That really would get her ire up. Scratch your eyes out she would have!! Growing up there was no Internet. The best thing available was Playboy down at the newsstand. However, when attired or dreaming of being attired as a woman, I envision or dream of being totally submissive, as in totally helpless. As in against my will. I have seen Internet porn where women are restrained. I wonder how many of the male viewers see themselves in the place of the GG or the TS/CD actor? Being taken against your will absolves you of any violation of societal norms?
StarrOfDelite
07-09-2014, 04:56 PM
I've slept with about a dozen women, and been married to 3 of them. I've slept with about 30 men. Referring back to the porno-meter test, I definitely would react to gay porn since "Penis Pix" fascinate me. Always have.
paulina
07-10-2014, 03:08 AM
I suppose that I can also go into the category of not really sure how straight I am. In the past and when I'm in guy mode now, I have pretty much no interest in guys. However, as cding has become more prominent in my life, I have found myself thinking about guys in that way more often and especially so when I'm en femme. Even though I'm not really one for labels, I guess that puts me in the bi-curious category until I have a chance to experiment with a guy and can find out more definitely how I feel from that.
This is EXACTLY where I think I am.
HipHugger
07-10-2014, 10:25 AM
99% sure straight. I just find the female form to be so alluring and desirable. Men can be Handsome and even cute, but not sexy. I do now ever appreciate a well built well cut man.
I'd agree with Vicki mostly here. While I can appreciate the male form in certain situations, I don't find myself attracted to men. While I can fantasize about being or acting like a woman, it's only with a woman, whether she's expressing as a woman or a man.
Trishpdxcd2
07-10-2014, 10:58 AM
I think it just goes to show that cd's have all kinds of sexual preferences. I wonder if it mimics the general population though I have a sense that there are a higher proportion of bi cd's versus the regular population, but who knows. I always think of straight and gay being poles on two opposite sides of a line and most of us fall somewhere in the middle. I used to be further towards straight though I was bi curious. Now I am a little closer to the middle. I prefer women but can enjoy men as well and other girls, well perhaps my biggest attraction now.
MzVanessa
07-10-2014, 02:45 PM
Lots of good points here. I guess I could just straight out say that I am Bi... However I think my attraction to men is mainly attributed to the way being with one, or being admired by one, helps me feel more feminine and complete when Vanessa. Occasionally I can find a very fit man attractive but they really don't sexually turn me on. Women and other CD's definetly turn me on. I guess its a mental vs physical turn on for me.
Samanthasmith
07-22-2014, 11:12 AM
For me I am mostly attracted to women. When I 'm dressed I do find a lot of other gurls attractive. I've always fantasized about dressing up and playing with a feminine gurl.
JustAlex
07-22-2014, 04:44 PM
I was at one time a straight, married, father. I loudly claimed that I was straight, totally committed to my wife and children, would always be this way and never that way. You know the drill.
I was there too. And I also wonder.
I'm pretty sure that a crossdresser is not 100% straight. I know it's debatable and for a lot it's a fact that you can CD and be 100% straight. What I can say for sure is that I'm not and I have not been 100% straight ever in my life. Never ever had sexual intercourse with another man or making out, not even touching. I don't find porn appealing, gay or straight. If I'm horny I may have an erection watching either but I don't think that's an accurate measurement of straightness.
Deep inside, I know I'm bi at least. Never went for it, never tried. I'm sure that, given the opportunity, I would have tried it in my teen years or even later. I had my opportunities with girls, took some, pass some. When I entered into young adulthood I was already in a committed relationship and that put a closure to the issue.
There are many factors. Homosexuality was (still is in some ways) a stigma, sex was a taboo topic. The opportunities may have been there but nobody were advertising and I never had the initiative, for the same reasons probably. It's really hard to tell. The criteria used to define an homosexual are not based on facts mostly. Of course you can see that a man having actual intercourse with another man is homosexual. But there is that idea that in prison a man penetrating another man is not. So, the line is actually a wide gray zone.
In the end... does it really matter?
Skylarlynn40
07-25-2014, 05:29 PM
Being married and loving my wife I would betray her trust and cheat with another person. That being said, when I was younger I would have said exclusively straight. Yet as I have grown up and tried to get a deeper understanding of myself, I would have to say I am bi-curious. I have had several fantasies of being treated like a women by a guy. I am curious how things would be from the perspective of the women and being that I will never know, I will just have to stick to fantasies.
Cara Lacey
07-25-2014, 07:27 PM
I think this study is very flawed. I do not think you can decide whether someone is straight bisexual or gay by what type of porn turned them on. I probably get turned on just as much by looking at vintage cars as I do is looking at naked women. Does that make me a crankshaft? :brolleyes:
jayme357
07-25-2014, 08:47 PM
I adore women. Making love to a sensuous woman is an incredible experience. Giving myself to a caring and gentle man is also a wonderful experience. I am truly blessed.
Badwolf
07-25-2014, 10:13 PM
I'm pretty sure that a crossdresser is not 100% straight. I know it's debatable and for a lot it's a fact that you can CD and be 100% straight.
Depends on the definition you use for 100% straight. Most common version of this discussion is using the Kinsey Scale, and very few people end up on the ends. Even without CDing most people don't qualify for 100% straight by that argument.
If you use it to mean dating only the opposite gender as their gender, then it's actually not that hard. Any other definition and it's almost impossible.
As for it not really mattering your right. It really shouldn't.
im-sparkles
07-26-2014, 12:37 AM
i totaly agree jayme . i feel Sry for all who are not bi-sexuall . men and women are both created equally beautiful
BillieAnneJean
07-26-2014, 12:59 AM
I find my wife to be so fascinating that there is no desire for anything else. So that makes me straight as a beam of light unaffected by any outside force or energy. And happily so. And happy for anyone else who finds happiness in their life through a means not necessarily like me.
Davida Kay
07-26-2014, 01:11 AM
I think I'm attracted to sexuality... Know the Kinsey scale? I'm on it, and it varies. I'm SEXUAL! But mostly attracted to the female form. So I find myself turned on mostly to GG, CD, TS... Also fem men. And generally, any one who is drop dead gorgeous!
larry
07-26-2014, 10:28 AM
Lordy that was funny Cara.
I think this study is very flawed. I do not think you can decide whether someone is straight bisexual or gay by what type of porn turned them on. I probably get turned on just as much by looking at vintage cars as I do is looking at naked women. Does that make me a crankshaft? :brolleyes:
Ugly Michele
07-26-2014, 01:34 PM
I dated a few ladies, and enjoyed it, but when I dress I want a man, and enjoy it. I love how he makes me feel like a woman, and find myself wanting more.
samantha rogers
07-26-2014, 01:40 PM
OMG...this is the thread that never dies...lol
What does that say?
Haha
LydiaG
07-26-2014, 11:14 PM
I identify as genderfluid so when I say I'm straight people get confused. I like GG's and that's it. I like having a "female" role with a female partner. I live a kinky lifestyle so I'm submissive and I enjoy being treated and used like a girl from a dominant female partner.
I love being a girl but I have no attraction at all for genetic males. I've been exposed to a lot of gay and bi males but I just have no interest in them sexually or as a relationship partner.
ophelia
07-27-2014, 08:10 PM
This is soooooo old a discussion. But that said, current society, no matter how advanced we think it is, does not appear to be ready to accept the notion of the heterosexual crossdresser. It is society which has sensually and blindly dumped that pile of fabulous scents, colours, textures and behaviors in the "female" box and the rawhide, boring clothes and stupid scents in the male box.
How about this: That gender and sexuality has nothing to do at all with those choices?
Just because I like my eyes smoky with a fire alarm red colour matte on my lips does not make me personally want to be with men, in fact it's quite the opposite.
missVS
07-27-2014, 09:09 PM
This is soooooo old a discussion. But that said, current society, no matter how advanced we think it is, does not appear to be ready to accept the notion of the heterosexual crossdresser. It is society which has sensually and blindly dumped that pile of fabulous scents, colours, textures and behaviors in the "female" box and the rawhide, boring clothes and stupid scents in the male box.
How about this: That gender and sexuality has nothing to do at all with those choices?
Just because I like my eyes smoky with a fire alarm red colour matte on my lips does not make me personally want to be with men, in fact it's quite the opposite.
Very well said ophelia. Very true for me mens stuff is just boring and woman stuff is such a range of fashion its dizzying. Funny that is my favorite look smoky eyeshadow and red lipstick. I find I am more atrracted to women since having more knowledge about dress and the whole routine. I look at woman up and down and just drool with envy at a beautiful lady.
DebCD
08-01-2014, 01:28 PM
Wow, quite a read here. Going back to the initial question of how straight we are, I know I am bisexual. I am turned on by viewing porn of men's and women's bodies as well as gay, lesbian and straight sexual situations (not the extreme stuff). I am married and enjoy sex with my wife but I also enjoy sex with men. My wife is totally anti gay so she would never accept my extra curricular activities (as seldom as they are). There is a whole other story in there, but that's for another topic. I have a cross dresser friend that I see occasionally (who is also married) and we dress girly together and enjoy sex with each other. I also have a guy friend that I see once in a blue moon (who is also married) that I see dressed as a guy and we enjoy sex together. It seems to work out nicely to have these rare encounters with other people that also just want to have same sex fun together. So that's me, I go both ways. I have been in this relationship situation for six years. Before that I had another friend that I knew for several years. So its not new, but it did take me a while in my life before I ventured into the bisexual waters and found that... I like it!
xoMindyxo
08-02-2014, 09:04 AM
Very well said ophelia. Very true for me mens stuff is just boring and woman stuff is such a range of fashion its dizzying. Funny that is my favorite look smoky eyeshadow and red lipstick. I find I am more atrracted to women since having more knowledge about dress and the whole routine. I look at woman up and down and just drool with envy at a beautiful lady.
I have to go along with you here. Although I can dress nice as man, the choices in female clothing are just downright endless, and since I have a creative streak to begin with, the possibilities are endless. And my attraction to women pretty much bumped up as well.
As for how straight am I ? Straight as an arrow here. Not attracted to men in anyway.
willow-the-wisp
08-02-2014, 12:58 PM
Wow, quite a read here. Going back to the initial question of how straight we are, I know I am bisexual. I am turned on by viewing porn of men's and women's bodies as well as gay, lesbian and straight sexual situations (not the extreme stuff). I am married and enjoy sex with my wife but I also enjoy sex with men. My wife is totally anti gay so she would never accept my extra curricular activities (as seldom as they are). There is a whole other story in there, but that's for another topic. I have a cross dresser friend that I see occasionally (who is also married) and we dress girly together and enjoy sex with each other. I also have a guy friend that I see once in a blue moon (who is also married) that I see dressed as a guy and we enjoy sex together. It seems to work out nicely to have these rare encounters with other people that also just want to have same sex fun together. So that's me, I go both ways. I have been in this relationship situation for six years. Before that I had another friend that I knew for several years. So its not new, but it did take me a while in my life before I ventured into the bisexual waters and found that... I like it!
Deb you appear to be living out my fantasy.
I too am married but have Bisexual feelings which I have never acted on
but enjoy watching.
Janine cd
08-02-2014, 09:45 PM
I think I'm Bi because I fanacize being loved by but sexes as a love object.
brandyred166
08-02-2014, 09:50 PM
I consider myself a lesbian in a man's skin. BUT, I do fantasize about being a GG and pleasing men. I have been with one man because of a trust that we had built, but I have tried to look at men in the locker room but nothing. I'm very peculiar about my men. But the idea of pleasing a man, or men and seeing the reward of pleasing them makes me very happy
Anna Renee
08-03-2014, 09:50 AM
I find most men disgusting. However, I don't consider myself to be straight. When driving I can't even say..."go straight at Main Street"...I say "go forward..."
tiffanynjcd24
08-03-2014, 10:30 AM
I know that I am bi but I am attractive more to feminine form (cd\tg\gg)
Jessy Jamz
08-04-2014, 01:44 PM
This is soooooo old a discussion. But that said, current society, no matter how advanced we think it is, does not appear to be ready to accept the notion of the heterosexual crossdresser.
Yeah well I don't think the world is ready to accept a non-hetero cd/trans person either.
I'm bi. It's funny because the majority of trans*/cd women I've met in real life identify as queer or bi or are attracted to men exclusively. This website is the opposite.
larry
08-04-2014, 03:04 PM
Ain't that the truth. AND you probably will not get many comments cause the fear of being banned is there..
Lorileah
08-04-2014, 03:24 PM
*NB*the discussions of sexual preferences are not controlled or pushed on here, however when one gets into details THAT is. You will find that the vast majority of members here, especially since it is not a dating or hook up site, are straight and most often married. If you are seeing anyone who is contrary to your non-hetero relationship, that is their prerogative as long as they don't make it personal.
If you have a complaint you can PM me or the Admins, but tread carefully here when you disagree with the moderation.
Now back to the discussion :Playnice:
Phillypa
08-04-2014, 04:09 PM
Definitely Bi and very comfortable with that!
Ash
Sarah Beth
08-04-2014, 05:00 PM
I have known since I was maybe 13 or 14 that I was bi. Of course I couldn't always deal with that and did a lot of overly macho things just trying to prove I was all man. So how straight am I not very I can't even draw a straight line with ruler.
Adam7
08-04-2014, 09:26 PM
I'm bisexual however I prefer straight erotic material because it's easier for me to envision myself as the woman... Shaved, sexy, willing, submissive, etc... Also, my tastes are different with men than women. For women, I find a variety of things sexy... For men, it's more specific, a few muscles in the right places (and growth), some good facial features, and they have to be at least 5'11". Pretty much, my men need to be tall and stronger than me and since I go the gym, I am specific.
Auntie
08-17-2014, 09:15 AM
The only time I think about being with a man is when I'm dressed as a woman.
Kris Avery
08-18-2014, 10:58 AM
I have to go along with you here. Although I can dress nice as man, the choices in female clothing are just downright endless, and since I have a creative streak to begin with, the possibilities are endless. And my attraction to women pretty much bumped up as well.
As for how straight am I ? Straight as an arrow here. Not attracted to men in anyway.
That's EXACTLY right. I don't drool though. I love my SO and only desire HER more.:doh:
I can't get over the array of clothes available - some of which I wear out - but never have been out in "total fem" mode.
anna36b
08-18-2014, 04:23 PM
Not straight at all anymore :) I know my place with a guy and I am always going to be the submissive girl that will always get to the bottom of things so to speak :battingeyelashes:
Brandie.n
08-20-2014, 12:56 AM
im a sraight i crossdess as a hobby usually making costumes
AnnabelleBethanie
08-20-2014, 12:46 PM
Well... Once I would have said straight without thinking twice... Now, however, I would say straight but with more bi-curious bisexual tendencies than I thought I had previously
Annabelle-Bethanie
Jessica S
08-20-2014, 02:03 PM
That's EXACTLY right. I don't drool though. I love my SO and only desire HER more.:doh:
I can't get over the array of clothes available - some of which I wear out - but never have been out in "total fem" mode.
Add me to the list of MissVS Mandy and Wendy! Straight.
Michelle colson
08-20-2014, 02:18 PM
I guess I'm bi. Im married and love women and have no attraction to men when in drab. However, when I'm dressed I find myself extremely attracted to the male form. So I guess this makes me bi if only barely.
jillishy
08-20-2014, 06:45 PM
I guess I'm bi also. I love women and love the female form It's what i wish i could be at times. When in that mindset of being female, sexy and aroused I see myself with a man. Making him feel the way I like to feel when I'm with a woman. It's almost like I'm make love to myself....get it?
Tiffany Jane
08-20-2014, 09:56 PM
I would have to say straight but shy from linear at times. Mostly attracted to the thought of transexuals, but it fulfills the desire to be with a dominate woman. Have to agree with the comments of a lesbian stuck in a mans body. The female body is more delicate and graceful for the most part, although very difficult to manage at times.
im-sparkles
08-20-2014, 10:55 PM
Im totally bi. My SO understands i love her but need to have a man make me feel like a real woman sometimes.
weyburn
08-21-2014, 02:08 AM
I always thought I was straight
Recently I bought a gay dvd came home put on some lingerie and watched it and it was a turn on
The next night there happened to be a drag show at one of the gay clubs so I went down with the sole idea of getting picked up which I did and it was absolutely and completely fabulous.No longer straight
Probably nothing to do with cd ing but I am going back there
anna36b
08-26-2014, 11:48 PM
Bisexual here! I enjoy being with a fem girly female, but I also really enjoy being dressed fem and girly with another fem girly cd/tv girl and pleasing her sexually and submitting to her needs.....and an occasional guy. I find myself being in a complete fem mindset when with a guy and I am all girl in every way
JessicaKasey
08-27-2014, 10:05 AM
I would say I'm straight, although I am fairly bi-curious towards Trans-girls. I admire the well looked after male body occasionally, but I'm not attracted to men.
Isabella Ross
08-27-2014, 12:32 PM
I just stumbled across this thread -- it's fascinating. I think the best advice I've read on this comes from the well-known Dr. Alice Novic (or Dr. Richard Novic, depending on what's being worn at any given time). You can read what Dr. Novic says about this at www.aliceingenderland.com but the essence of what she believes is in this quote below:
"Today’s first question is Am I gay? The short answer is No, you're not, but you’re not exactly straight either.
To me and to most gay men, being gay describes a specific thing. It ‘s more like saying “He’s Mexican,” rather than “He’s definitely not from around here.” As a crossdresser, you’re clearly not gay in the sense of wanting to be a man sexually with a man and all the stuff that so often comes with it, like a head-spinning appreciation for the male form, an Oscar-Wilde-like wit, and a passion for fashion and celebrities. Oh, sure you may be loving all the little nuances of ladies’ clothing, but that’s not the same thing. Just the simple fact you call yourself a crossdresser means that you’re not gay, for most people (and specifically me in part 1 of this series) define crossdresser as a primarily straight man who is profoundly satisfied to imagine himself as a woman. So, you’re fundamentally heterosexual on some level or sorely misusing the term crossdresser.
But, are you completely straight? Well, hey, to answer that question I first owe you a definition of the term straight. Completely straight, or completely heterosexual describes a man who is only interested in sex as a man with a woman. You, my dear reader, may—despite your crossdressing consider yourself such a man, only for that to change—if you’re lucky—as opportunities present themselves. What if you had the chance to make like lipstick lesbians with your wife, another beautiful woman, a breathtaking transsexual, or another nice-looking crossdresser? Or what about my favorite: getting to be a sweet, slender girl in the arms of some giant of a man?"
So what's the takeaway? It's complicated! As for me, I've never been attracted to the male body. I've always been in love with and attracted to the female form. However, sometimes, that female form is presented so well by a TG sister...'nuff said.
laura.lapinski
08-27-2014, 05:14 PM
These are my favorite threads because it causes us to look at our feelings, and what turns us on, both currently, and how we have evolved over the years. I find them incredibly fascinating, and interesting. I know this is my second post to this thread, but I'll just state how straight I am again. I think I am more bi/bi-curious. Like many others, I adore the female form. That means, I adore how a CD looks if he is pulling off the female look. He doesn't have to be 100% passable, just sexy (maybe 80% passable?). I could see myself, if I were single, actually dating a fem-cd. I don't have as big a desire to dress any more, but I must say I use to love to dress in-the-closet style, and yes, it was sexually exciting to dress. I think over the years, I came to accept that I liked to do that, and knew I was different, but was OK with it in private. After I discovered this site (once Al Gore invented the Internet), I was amazed to see how many others were out there with the EXACT same thoughts and desires that I had. I could still get into dressing up with someone, but would be OK with just being the guy and going out with another CD too.
I've never had any experience with another man, but I did have an experience as a young teen with another my age. Given the right circumstances, I would try it with another CD/TS.
Laura
lesli
08-27-2014, 05:56 PM
basically if i get attention from someone while i'm dressed, i'm definitely going to show interest.
tracigirl_tv
08-28-2014, 07:08 AM
basically if i get attention from someone while i'm dressed, i'm definitely going to show interest.
Lesli, I know exactly what you mean. One of the first times I attracted the attention of a man was a thrill I don't think I'll ever forget. Maybe it was just validation, but when his hand brushed my leg at the bar, whooooooeeeeee! *lol* And yes, it's still a thrill.
Generally speaking I've been trudging across the sexuality spectrum from hetero --> homo for years. I consider myself at this point to be a confirmed bisexual.
It's kind of interesting (if only to me) that on the street, it's still going to be the sight of a woman--well formed, well dressed, well accessorized, well whatever--that gets my motor running. The sight of a random man on the street does little for me. But when I'm dressed, a man's attention is like catnip to me.
:)
Traci
CostaRicaRachel
08-28-2014, 07:19 AM
I really don't know what I am.
My entire life I have only dated women. When I am dressed as a man I don't even notice men. Only women. But,
as a man, when I see an attractive women, I am not aroused by having sex with her, I am aroused by imagining I am her.
So as a man, I would have to say I am asexual, because I am not aroused by having sex with men or women.
On the other had, when I dress in private as a women ( I have never gone out in public as a woman), I am aroused by
having sex with everyone. As a women, I guess I am bisexual.
But, at this point I live as a man, (I am thinking about transitioning, but I am in kind of a difficult position),
so I guess I am an asexual "man" that dates women.
Does anyone else feel the same way?
Ciara09
08-28-2014, 12:55 PM
Behaviorally, straight. Never been with a male.
Internally, I admit I've been attracted to both sexes. Women are sexier, but there is more of a taboo to same sex attraction which adds adrenaline to the arousal when it's a gay attraction. I think that is what drives some men to be attracted to transwomen. But I've been turned on by women, transwomen, and men at different times, depending on my mood.
I think I only "desire" women. Any same sex attractions I've had have been momentary, never really come close to infatuation. But to call myself straight, I sometimes feel dishonest when I say that.
Desiree2bababe
08-28-2014, 01:05 PM
I have to be bi-sexual with a tendency to enjoy pleasing men more than women. Just something about being submissive to a man that excites me but I do love women.
SusanaO
08-28-2014, 03:50 PM
When I say I'm straight (as most people know me), it's only an approximation. My attraction towards women is far stronger than for men. With men, it's more of a taboo thing. I enjoy it because I'm not supposed to by social standards. I do, however, love being manhandled once in a while. It just feels good to me feeling what it's like on the other end, as I'm usually very dominant in the bedroom. I consider myself a 1.5 on the Kinsey (sometimes a 2)
Kimkandy
08-29-2014, 12:08 PM
basically if i get attention from someone while i'm dressed, i'm definitely going to show interest.
I'm 99% attracted to women but if I go to a Tg / Cd club I get confused because I'm fooled and can't tell the difference...
As far as attention from men it would depend on man, depends on men. So far it's been thanks but no thanks.
jeniinnylons
08-29-2014, 02:19 PM
Right now straight but not having had sex for almost ten years I'm starting to be open to other possibilities. I'm definitely afraid of the guilt factor if I ever did do something. If I did I would prefer another CD. Have been very turned on lately with CD porn. Have wondered many times what it would feel like to be taken.
Della
08-30-2014, 12:10 AM
I haven't read all of the comments to the post, but comedian Ron White had a skit noting all men are a little gay. Just a thought--nothing more.
ClosetED
08-30-2014, 05:58 AM
Don't confuse enjoying the attention of a gender with wanting sex with the other person's sexual organs. We all want acceptance and affirmation from people, and when dressed it may be extra nice to be affirmed by a man that you are attractive, and this affirmation may make you feel very good. But it not the same as wanting the man's penis in you. If we define homosexual as wanting sex with a person of the same sexual organs, then I am straight hetero.
cassandra54
08-30-2014, 11:04 AM
It's pretty simple for me, but my story might seem a little complicated. I am just me and me is just sexual. When I was younger, I wanted to have sex with a man. So when I moved to California when I was 21 I did just that. I lived with this guy for almost two years. For the longest time we were monogamous. I was his "bottom" and it was awesome. Something about submitting to a man in that way that is just incredible. But. He started dating other guys and I started seeing other women. I can't say for sure, but I think there was a least one day when I had sex with him and sex with a woman.
Fast forward about 30 years. The girl I was living with and I had decided on an open relationship. I thought this would be an opportune time to explore that side of me again. I dated women and tried to find suitable male partners. I even had a threesome with a couple. I didn't have as much luck with men as I did women. A lot of men who claim to be bisexual are just pigs. They want to meet in a park or fool around in your car. They don't want to be affectionate. I thought about dating gay men, but didn't want to get drawn into a serious relationship.
Bottom line is this: If you are open-minded, you can enjoy sex with both men and women. Anyone can enjoy certain things as long as they're open-minded, uninhibited and relaxed. I enjoy being submissive with a man, but I'm not holding out hope on ever finding a partner who would enjoy the things I do. I have a new girlfriend who knows EVERYTHING about me. I enjoy being with her and enjoying "normal" sex. She's pretty awesome.
A lot of people might not understand this, but to me it's pretty simple. I'm comfortable with who I am and enjoy it. The same goes for dressing. I'm not conflicted. I do it because it's fun.
CherylFlint
08-30-2014, 11:31 AM
When I'm drab, I like girls.
When I dress, I like guys.
Makes life a LOT easier.
MeredithG
10-04-2014, 01:08 AM
I fantasize about getting set up on a date with a man, but I can't see myself actually doing it. Like others have posted, I am interested in women parts and dressing like them at times .
ArleneRaquel
10-04-2014, 01:11 AM
I date only CD's and males. I haven't had a date with a GG in over ten years. :battingeyelashes:
Tiffany B.
10-04-2014, 01:25 AM
I'm not going to read all 157 posts on this thread just to put in my two cents. I get the idea. My thought: If you have only been with women up till now and only fantasize about men or other gurls then you may say you are straight. If you get physical with another gurl or man AND want to do it again you are bi or gay. Now doesn't that simplify matters.
I guess that makes me straight, but damn, do I have fantasies and one day, who knows if I will give in
Right now straight but not having had sex for almost ten years I'm starting to be open to other possibilities. I'm definitely afraid of the guilt factor if I ever did do something. If I did I would prefer another CD. Have been very turned on lately with CD porn. Have wondered many times what it would feel like to be taken.
Couldnt have said it better, your thoughts are exactly the same as mine
I dont mean to be disrespectful and dont want to break any rules, but for those of us that have commented about being dressed and being with a man... Would that include anal? For some reason, I dont find that to be erotic.. When dressed and when my fantasy is running at it is strongest, I tingle when I think of kissing, cuddling and and performing oral on him... but anything further just doesnt excite me..
Kaze_
10-04-2014, 07:12 AM
I don't actively seek out men nor am I attracted to men.
I'm attracted to femininity. A person's biological sex doesn't matter as much as their gender to me, they need to be a girl.
JessicaKasey
10-04-2014, 10:58 AM
I'm attracted to femininity. A person's biological sex doesn't matter as much as their gender to me, they need to be a girl.
This! :battingeyelashes:
ophelia
10-04-2014, 02:09 PM
Sexually I only see myself expressing sexually with women. I would love to have a relationship en femme with an interested woman. Does that make it kind of lesbian in nature? I have no problem at all sharing my crossdressing passion with certain women, but I am never comfortable with men in the picture.
My last time dressed I got my makeup beautifully done in a hairdressing school and one of the male students just "had to touch up my hair" and the pass he made at me felt....awful.
larry
10-04-2014, 05:49 PM
Laura.lapinski,
It took me 5 minutes to reread your note. Couldn't stop laughing after this (once Al Gore invented the Internet) hehe Thanks
AletaHawk
10-04-2014, 09:44 PM
I'm bisexual, but I've noticed the majority of the time that I'm attracted to men is when I'm in Aleta mode (at least mentally).
Clorissa
10-04-2014, 10:03 PM
I'm long hair on a skinny body frame. Love doing things with my long haired wife and her friends. Therefore bisexual.
Clorissa
Mia27
10-07-2014, 04:00 PM
I am bisexual 100%!:) i love men and women. I like guys when i am dressed up or when im not dressed up. It doesnt really affect me:P But the thing with guys though, is i'd prefer to be bottom over anything else! I love women all the time no matter what haha. Its confusing, but thats just how it is i guess haha. I guess to sum it up im just fluid with sexuality and my gender. I go where ever it takes me:) haha
NatalieBliss
10-08-2014, 10:03 PM
Not very. I identify as Translesbian.
More detail would be that I am far more attracted to the feminine, though I am not so hung up on the persons sex.
HarleyGirl
10-08-2014, 11:04 PM
For me it's 100% straight. Women are the greatest. Dudes gross me out and that includes lookin at myself in the mirror
CastleCD907
10-09-2014, 12:53 AM
For the longest time I wallowed in thinking I was 100% straight.......that changed quite quickly when I had my first meet up with a guy while I was cross dressing and then I realized that I am very much Bisexual and love both men and women. I prefer to top when it comes to guys because it makes me feel powerful and in charge but not in a master/slave type relationship. I'm definitely attracted to women but I also get excited about guys as well especially when I'm playing the lady ;)
LisaKarenAZ
10-09-2014, 01:00 AM
I wouldn't know really how to classify my sexuality. I am only with my wife since we've been married, but my years prior were a different story. I do fantasize at times that she is the man and I an the woman.
I've been the recipient of oral from men, full reciprocal with a pre-op TS, and given oral to a man. Out of everything, the TS experience was my favorite.
When I watch porn online, I always gravitate to the ******* porn.
Katey888
11-01-2014, 02:00 PM
Someone of slightly scientific bent (pardon the pun) had to do this...
This thread is begging for a summary so here it is...
Exclusions/Definitions to data:
- Members who post more than once are only counted once
- Posts that are debates and conversations are excluded
- Those who do not express a definition or waffle are classed as N/A :)
- Those who self-define as one class but just fantasise about something else are classified per history rather than fantasy
- Those who self-define as straight but clearly have active other sexual relations have been categorised as Bi-
- I've put Bi and Pan together as I struggle to make a clear distinction
- Members who express a clear uncertainty in that they may go in more than one direction (if that makes sense) have been classified as Bi-curious
If anyone disagrees with any categories I'm happy to review the definitions and the base data for a fee of $500 - PayPal accepted... :p
And the results are:
235183
Enjoy!
Katey x
Mistybtm
11-01-2014, 02:14 PM
I am 100% totally Bi no doubt in my mind
Jammee
11-02-2014, 09:39 AM
Used to consider myself bi-curious, I'm bi. No doubt
Jenniferathome
11-02-2014, 12:29 PM
...
And the results are:
http://www.crossdressers.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=235183&stc=1
..
Nice job Katey. My hypothesis is that straight cross dressers (hetero only) are more likely to refrain from comment than the bi/maybe group. I'm a big believer that the vocal minority seems to rule. I responded, more than once, I am sure, due to pure frustration. I can;t abide by the nonsense comments along the lines of, "...I'm straight except when I'm dressed..." There is no such thing as "straight except for..." Just kills me.
true there is no bi ONLY WHEN DRESSED
because in that case they BECOME the woman!
it all fits!
still straight!
(eyah!)
flatlander_48
11-02-2014, 01:51 PM
Nice job Katey. My hypothesis is that straight cross dressers (hetero only) are more likely to refrain from comment than the bi/maybe group. I'm a big believer that the vocal minority seems to rule. I responded, more than once, I am sure, due to pure frustration. I can;t abide by the nonsense comments along the lines of, "...I'm straight except when I'm dressed..." There is no such thing as "straight except for..." Just kills me.
Yes, I also had trouble understanding that, but I rarely challenge anyone about it unless they say something really stupid. I would have to believe that dressing becomes an enabler or a gateway to other behavorial possibilities for some. Once you break down that initial gender barrier, other things can happen.
Janine cd
11-02-2014, 10:46 PM
I agree with Sheri. I have often wondered how I might react to meeting another cd fully dressed or a man interested in me dressed as a woman.
Paula_Femme
11-02-2014, 11:22 PM
I can;t abide by the nonsense comments along the lines of, "...I'm straight except when I'm dressed..." There is no such thing as "straight except for..." Just kills me.
Agreed Jennifer! I replied to this thread once, months ago, but quickly got to the point where I'd simply delete the posts as they appeared in my Inbox, unless it was a poster who's name I recognized such as yourself or Katey for instance, precisely because of those idiotic "I'm 100% straight except for when it's another guy in a skirt" type posts! :doh:
MissTee
11-02-2014, 11:29 PM
I'm straight except when I'm doing yoga, then I'm kind of crooked. {sorry, couldn't resist a bit of levity}
melanie206
11-04-2014, 09:47 AM
Katey, nice chart. Is that based entirely on responses to this thread?
Katey888
11-04-2014, 10:13 AM
:)
The data is drawn from this thread Melanie - up to post #404 (the one before the chart). I have collated members' comments as closely as possible to the categories detailed in the post with the chart. I don't think any conclusions as such can be drawn from this, as it is a self-selected group who have responded. I'm not sure there's any credence in the assertion that hetero members are less likely to respond, however - I'd suggest that there isn't any strong bias for responding based on sexuality. All I think you can say about the relatively small sample size is:
- The spilt between straight or non-straight is about even
- There are a significant number of responses (for this sample size) that suggest some uncertainty regarding sexuality including a desire to explore, although many of these are likely to remain purely fantasy
- Gays are in a definite minority here (I think we guessed that... :))
Interesting... possibly representative, but by no means definitive... however, in the absence of any other more compelling data... :thinking:
Katey x
Nadine Spirit
11-04-2014, 10:24 AM
Nice job Katey. My hypothesis is that straight cross dressers (hetero only) are more likely to refrain from comment than the bi/maybe group. I'm a big believer that the vocal minority seems to rule. I responded, more than once, I am sure, due to pure frustration. I can;t abide by the nonsense comments along the lines of, "...I'm straight except when I'm dressed..." There is no such thing as "straight except for..." Just kills me.
I totally agree. This is my first comment on this thread as I have had large troubles in even reading it without loosing my fool mind! The whole "straight except for..." thing just kills me!
Oh and for the record, I am 100% hetero. I am not into guys in any way, regardless of how they or I am dressed. Now I do have a bi friend who has let me know how into me he is but he feels bad about it as he knows I am straight and he does not want to make me uncomfortable. I laughed when he told me that. I let him know that if he is into me, that is fine, but just don't expect that to be returned, like ever!
And Katey, I love your chart!
melanie206
11-04-2014, 11:20 AM
Katey, thanks for the effort. My thread with the Adultfriendfinder data was not particularly well received I think. I'm very interested in knowing who we are as a group and the "official" statistics available seem inadequate. Regarding the AFF data how it may or may not be representative, I also compared men who are only interested in women to men who are interested in more than just women and found an interesting percentage that parallels the general population - between 5 and 10 percent of AFF men are bi or gay.
Heather_Shirly
11-04-2014, 12:21 PM
So like most of the people on this thread I thought that my crossdressing is something that goes along with being gay and always wondered if i was growing up.
I still think i cant answer that but if i had t label myself i would say i am Bi. Why? Because in the porn category i always search and watch gay porn. Straight porn get me excited as well but if i was going to search for something i would most likely watch gay porn. Not sure why but I just do. The thing wiht any pron gay or straight is that it is a fantasy and i think that the fantasy of it is what is attractive to me.
But here is the thing. I find the form of a women to be the most beautiful thing there is. Men in person just turn me off. Girls are pretty and we do our best to be as pretty as them(and sometimes are more pretty then GGs). The best sex i have ever had is with women and i think that makes me more straight then not.
I am married now and i promised my wife i would never stray from our marriage bed and i am more then happy with that as she does everything for me and takes cares of all my desires so i guess i will never really find out if guys really do it for me at all.
samantha rogers
11-04-2014, 01:10 PM
Wow, Rhonda...what kind of nerve did you touch here?
17 pages and still going. Lol
So here is something to think about. Why does this matter?
I guess there is affirmation in learning that ones preferences are shared by others. Sure. I get that.
Sexuality is a touchy subject, and many people experience guilt related to fantasies or actual experiences outside the strict hetero world, whether they have gender issues or not, right? And, if guilt/shame/insecurity etc are in any way present in a person over ambiguous or non straight sexual impulses, then affirmation that they are not alone in this is helpful. I get that.
But, gender identity and sexual preferences are not the same and are only loosely connected....or, at least, that is the take I have gotten from most all of what I have read, and I believe it.
While I find the "I'm straight except..." responses amusing, I am equally amused by all the strident expressions of pure heterosexuality.
I often wonder, to quote my buddy Will, if "the lady doth protest too much" tee hee
No, not pointing fingers at anyone. I do believe there are many cds who absolutely are absolutely straight sexually.
But there is also a whole lot of self delusion, I am guessing, going on among some.
And I find that amusing.
In a world where it is now widely considered acceptable for people to be gay, or lesbian or bi, while being TG to one degree or another is still a status struggling to gain acceptance and escape prejudice, scorn and derision, how can someone be less nervous about admitting they crossdress than about admitting they might have a same sex attraction?
For that matter, is it same sex?
We make a big deal about addressing each other with gender appropriate pronouns, obviously addressing the feminine identity. So if the identity is female and the sexual relation is to a male, then is that truly "gay"?
People...respectfully...what does it matter?
I find the only time it is important to answer this question is when faced with another person hitting on me. Other than that?
Life is short and there are many things to worry about, but defining, labeling, boxing myself...there are bigger issues. Just have a good time, girls. Look for the love.
And don't forget to dance.
Lol
Love to you all, straight, bi, gay and confused.
Sammie
Heather_Shirly
11-04-2014, 01:20 PM
Sammie,
That was a very well written and thought out response. Nicely done and very good point for sure!
Cheryl123
11-04-2014, 01:22 PM
I once was a guy, so I guess I can reply here. Estrogen has destroyed my sex drive (good riddance!) along with my sexual preferences -- which were straight. Although I find myself emotionally attracted to anyone who is attracted to me I have a preference for other trans-women. So boys and girls, here's my question. Does that make me a lesbian, gay or a galesbian? I'm not confused, but some people have a hard time labeling me (poor things). I love who I love, and life should be as simple as that.
samantha rogers
11-04-2014, 01:25 PM
Haha...yes, Cheryl, I get that totally...you and I have a lot in common, girl. :-)
Lorileah
11-04-2014, 01:35 PM
:)
- The split between straight or non-straight is about even Years ago we had polls and I can remember at least one where it was 40% straight, 40% bi and 10% gay so this is reinforcing that. The numbers may skew a bit as always because of the site and who is willing to answer but I think it is a good "cross" section. Great chart
Lexi_83
11-05-2014, 07:31 AM
So like most of the people on this thread I thought that my crossdressing is something that goes along with being gay and always wondered if i was growing up. Add on when your parents tell you you must be gay if you crossdress. Takes a while to find your way.
Ceera
11-05-2014, 09:57 AM
For most of my life I considered myself to be 'bi-curious, but functionally straight'.
My dad was homophobic, to the point where he could hardly say the word 'homosexual', and couldn't discuss sex matters at all with me. Mom said dad had a bad experience as a child with a 'Baptist preacher' that affected his ability to discuss sex stuff, but no one gave me any details. Heck, for all I know maybe dad had a gay experience that embarrassed the hell out of him when he was a teen! Or maybe that preacher just drilled it into him that being Gay was horrible and a sin. Dad wasn't particularly religious, and didn't rant against gays. He just couldn't discuss sexuality issues at all. All I knew in my teens was that there was no way I could tell either of them that their only son had just had his first experience with someone else giving him sexual gratification, and that it had been another guy! I had pretty mixed feelings about it myself, and tried to ignore that one night as a one-off experience. Never got intimate with that guy again.
As I grew up, I did the expected thing and only dated girls, and only offered platonic friendship to other males. Yet I still found myself looking at some men with the same longing that I had for women - thinking that a guy was hot and sexy. And I did allow one other guy to pleasure me, one night. Then later, when I was in the Navy and one of my Navy friends came out as gay and got a discharge for it, I almost confessed to him that I found him attractive, and wanted to try sex with him myself. But I didn't dare come out. I couldn't risk my family finding out.
I married a nice girl and had a straight, monogamous marriage for 30 years, and we raised a lovely daughter together. My wife knew I had bisexual leanings. So for that time, my physical activities were entirely straight, though I would, in private, occasionally enjoy some MM fantasies.
I developed a female on-line personna and did some adult roleplaying as Ceera, but kept a very clear division between what Ceera did on line and what my real life could include. I made it very clear to any of Ceera's on-line friends that I was married and monogamous in real life, and that any on-line roleplaying was only that, and that all I offered between us in the real world was a platonic friendship.
In the last few years of my marriage, after both of my parents had died, I started covertly wearing women's underwear. My wife and daughter eventually knew, and accepted it, though my wife was a bit uneasy about me doing it.
Now my wife has also died, and I am single again, with no one to be held accountable to for my pleasures but myself. I decided to come out to my daughter about being bi and liking the idea of fully cross dressing. My daughter is 18, and accepts my choices. She even helps me to shop for girl clothes!
Since last July, I've been going out en-femme to a nearby gay club, and have been open to whatever might happen. Last weekend, for the first time in my life, I accepted an offer to 'go someplace and make out' from a guy, and took him to my home and my bed. It was my first time having sex while en-femme with another male. I... liked it. Pretty much knew I would. I think I still prefer women, but I'd date a man just as readily, if I liked him. So now I consider myself fully bisexual, with a preference for female partners.
I doubt I could ever be satisfied with trying to be a girl full-time, or with only having a male lover. I enjoy mating with women as a male too much. But I'm pretty sure that from here on out, I'll be working both sides of the street with my relationships. Maybe I can find a nice couple who likes threesomes? Who knows...
Lacyfem
11-05-2014, 10:25 AM
Tough question as started dressing at 10 and being gay or cross dressing was a no, no so I've always on the outside been straight. Now I know I'm very bi sexual and not gay as not attracted to men in particular but am attracted to other dressers though I have dressed and been with men who liked me fem and dressed. Men are OK but just not attracted to those really gay guys if you know what I mean! Sexually, a really nice penis does turn me on.
phoebe61
11-05-2014, 10:48 AM
First of all im a transexual woman! not a guy.
to answer the question i started dressing as far as i can remember about 10,11 even though i thought it for many years i admited what i was about 10 years ago.
as to being attracted to guys i like guys and gals bi it depends on the person?
I guess the idea to me is MYTHS
Myth: All crossdressers are gay!
well no... "most are straight!"
Myth 2.0: most crossdressers are straight ... 100% straight... BEYOND STRAIGHT (not even 0.00001% attracted to males)
well uh... no
it appears that most CDers are bisexual or at least HETEROFLEXIBLE (which fits with that whole straight BUT thing that people have so much trouble with)
if a gal makes out with another gal at a college party and likes it is she instantly bi or can she be straight and experimenting / having fun?
who knows!
heather ann martin
11-05-2014, 10:06 PM
Completely gay long before I knew what being gay was.
DebbieL
11-05-2014, 10:29 PM
I found both men and women attractive. Liked David Cassidy of Partridge family and Davey Jones of the Monkeys. But I was also attracted to Anne Margaret and Joey Heatherton. I also had a think for Anne Francis in Honey West.
My romantic fantasies as a kid were of me as a girl being kissed by a girl. I wanted to be the submissive, the femme, but I wanted her to be a pretty too.
Attraction is a relative thing. If you had to choose between Ethel Merman toward the end and Justin Timberlake or Leonardo DeCaprio in their prime, most of us would choose the boy.
By sexual fantasies were almost always of me with another girl, usually both of us in skirt suits.
Sarina Curtis
11-06-2014, 09:05 AM
I'd say I'm bi-curious but not straight up with a guy. I can honestly say I haven't seen a man who gave me the urge sexually. Having said that I'd be interested a TS/TG experience. Being with my wife negates the possibility entirely and that's ok with me because she's amazing.
weyburn
11-07-2014, 10:56 PM
At one time it was women only for me and would not even accept/recognize the bi or gay lifestyle
Many years ago when I dressed it was purely a sexy thing for the bedroom with my wife
Years pass by and now don't dress directly for the bedroom but to publicly pass as a woman(mostly do on occaision don't usually if I have to talk)
Now men only as I just love to play the role of a woman
And I dress day and night now
Janine cd
11-07-2014, 11:06 PM
I'm in agreement with Sheri and also JennyMarie. I love seeing a feminine form, but I'm also fascinated by the thought of having a man expressing his desire for me.
Babbs
11-07-2014, 11:54 PM
it appears that most CDers are bisexual or at least HETEROFLEXIBLE
Mink, did you invent that word? I like it. I think a lot of CDer's are probably straight but in the same way that Clothes, make-up, heels, jewelry, nail polish etc., make them feel femme and fantastic, doing things that other women do probably makes them feel the same way. Shopping for clothes, watching "say yes to the dress", gossiping with other girls, having sex with a man, for example are all "womanly acts" that straight CDers may do or think about while en femme...Hence like you say they are hetero - flexible. But when it comes to their true sexual drive, they love WOMEN.
Obviously I am not a professional therapist and only offer an opinion based on my experience communicating with you girls on this site...hehehe
BTW Mink, how do I get to Portland from Boston? "Ya cah'nt get theya from hehya" lol
rodiz72
11-08-2014, 05:56 AM
I have to say I'm not passable at all but dressing fem feels so good nd acting fem is awesome. I guess I'm bi but try to act manly lol but wen I get the urge I get all girly especially if he takes control. Don't get turned on by men but I do catch myself lookin at them up nd down wondering lol
I have to say that I fall into the Bi category. I love the female body for all of the softness and femininity that women have to offer. I also love the male body for what it has to offer as well. When put together (transexuals speaking) IMHO, you have the best of both!
Jenniferathome
11-08-2014, 10:47 AM
I guess the idea to me is MYTHS
Myth: All crossdressers are gay!
well no...
Myth 2.0: most crossdressers are straight ...
it appears that most CDers are bisexual ...
who knows!
this thread will never end, sadly. But, as I do know, to answer your question/statement, allow me....
You are correct in your first assessment of the myth. In fact, few cross dressers are gay. This fact is clearly reflected on this forum. It makes perfect sense as gay men are attracted to men.
You are wrong in your second aeeseement. Most cross dressers ARE straight. This fact is also represented well on this forum.
You are also wrong in your statement that "most" cross dressers are bi. The correct answer is "some" cross dressers are bi. Your conclusion can not be reached based on the facts in evidence here or in science.
I hope this clarity helps you
ophelia
11-08-2014, 10:53 AM
Totally straight, No interest at all in getting intimate with other males.
Minerva Morgan
11-08-2014, 03:09 PM
A common statement by cross-dressers is, "I am only attracted to women but when I am 'dressed' [athenased] I think about sex with a man". To which the response is that they are homosexual and in denial to which the cross-dresser replies, "I am not!", to which the respondent claims that they must be bisexual.
I have written a longer post on sexual identity but have not posted it (it is very long). My response in another place to someone who posed a variation of the above conundrum may be a shorter means of introducing my concepts.
Minerva.
Hi, Vicki.
What is confusing is that most people conflate 'sex' with 'gender'. As a result they make conclusions based on false premises.
For example, nobody is heterosexual. Heterosexual supposedly means sexually aroused by or attracted to the opposite sex. First of all there is no 'opposite' sex. The sexes have more in common (two hands, teeth, hair, etc.) than they have differences. The differences are centred on one's role in reproduction and even there it is simply a matter of developing differently. Females develop ovaries and males (from the same, basic physiological elements) develop testes. To say that one is 'opposite' connotes a sense that one is better/worse, bad/good, right/wrong, etc. It is the 'other' sex and even then one has to remember that the sexes are equal and complimentary and not poles on some fictitious scale.
The second thing is that it is not the other person's sex that attracts you. Consider a so-called 'heterosexual' male. He sees a very lovely, young woman and is sexually attracted and aroused. But the woman is male. Not knowing that the woman is male, is he suddenly 'homosexual' (attracted to the same sex)? Of course not! If he learns that the woman is male and is still (not being a panic-stricken bigot) attracted, does this mean he has magically been transformed to a 'homosexual'? Again, of course not! That is because it was never the woman's sex that attracted him. It was her gender (femininity rather than femaleness).
If it was the other person's sex that attracted a person, then, by definition, they would be attracted to ALL persons of that sex. This is not true so it is not the other person's sex that attracts. Thus 'homosexual', 'heterosexual', 'bisexual', etc., cannot be applied to people to define their sexual orientation. They can be applied to various sexual situations. For example male-male intimacy IS homosexual (same-sex) coitus, but that does not mean that either or both persons ARE 'homosexual'. In fact, with a little thought, you may be able to consider situations where both participants are male and at least one is not 'homosexual'. So the commonly used terms are not only misleading they are meaningless.
I prefer the terms androphile, gynecophile, asexual, ambiphile and androgynophile to describe various sexual orientations. Androphile means attracted to masculinity or to men (not males necessarily as men is the gender and not the sex). Gynecophile is attracted to women (regardless of their sex). Asexual means not wanting to be sexual (possibly romantic). Ambiphile means attracted to either or any gender. Androgynophile is attracted to someone of a blended gender or who is essentially genderless (a whole other topic).
Some people try to equate, for example, androphile with homosexual but that is an error. Both males and females can be androphiles, and a androphilic female is not 'homosexual'. Basically, as far as sexual attraction goes, sex has nothing to do with it. It is all about gender.
Another factor is sexual identity. Most people think this means whether you think you are male or female, Regardless of what you 'think', you ARE male or female, and that's not going to change. Besides that's 'sex identity' and no matter how you identify, it's still not going to change. 'Sexual' has to do with coitus, intercourse, or whatever you want to call it. And, unless you are trying to make babies, sex (male-female) has nothing to do with it. Gender does.
Sexual Identity is how you see yourself in a sexual situation. There are basically three roles: passive-receptive (feminine), active-initiative (masculine) or co-operative masculine-masculine, feminine-feminine or a variety of other combinations (if one adds androgyny). Some people are gender variant. Most people are gender invariant. That is why most males prefer to be masculine, most females prefer to be feminine, etc. This is true with sexual identity as well. The gender variant, however, when masculine may prefer to be active-initiative and when feminine they may wish to be passive-receptive. A male, gender variant, gynecophile when feminine still likes women but can be, by her own femininity, aroused to want to be in a sexual situation with a male in a passive-receptive and feminine role. It is not the male's sex so much as the male's sexual apparatus. This is why a gender variant male can have a good sexual relationship with a male without any extensive romantic component. It's just sexual!
If you can remember that sex (male-female) and gender (androgynous, masculine and feminine) are completely different things, that sex does not really matter but gender does then the erroneous nature of a lot of terminology, the confusion those errors create and massive misunderstandings concerning them become clear.
So it is possible for a gender variant male to want to have, and to have, an intimate relationship with another male without either of them being 'gay'. As for your being attracted to women, if you see a really sexy cross-dresser and feel aroused, it is not because you are 'gay' but because you are a male gynecophile.
Minerva.
AlanaG
11-08-2014, 05:23 PM
Minerva
A very interesting post. Thank you.
lilly_may
11-09-2014, 06:08 PM
After almost 30 years after having my first boyfreind I fully accepted that I was gay. Another few years before I admited to my wife.
GenderCurious Andrea
11-11-2014, 03:41 AM
I am bi curious but the funny part about this tread is differentiating what the baser attraction is due to the gender identity thing. I think the underlying question is do you find heterosexual sex attractive regardless of genetic gender identity or homosexual sex attractive regardless of genetic gender identity. Just because your watch straight porn doesn't mean your attraction is solely coming from the males perspective, no pun intended lol... I watch straight porn all the time but it doesn't mean I'm not fantasizing about what it might be like for the female... Just something to think about...
tracigirl_tv
11-11-2014, 08:30 AM
...... Just because your watch straight porn doesn't mean your attraction is solely coming from the males perspective....
Andrea, good point. Like you, when I watch straight porn, I totally put myself in her position (pun intended). Total turn on!
Traci
Lexi_83
11-12-2014, 04:31 PM
Minerva, I like your explanation of "Sexual Identity." That makes a lot of sense.
AmandaM
11-13-2014, 01:03 AM
Minerva's post is interesting. But for some of us, when the fem clothes come off, it kills the sexual desire as we "become" men again. How does that play into it?
thatotherguy
11-13-2014, 06:54 AM
I'm straight... I crossdress because I love the attention that I get. I have zero interest in other men or crossdressers in a sexual or romantic way.
belindaH
11-13-2014, 09:06 AM
Thanks Minerva.
That is a very wise way to look at the whole gay/straight thing.
Rosaliy Lynne
11-13-2014, 09:58 AM
Very interesting post. Not sure about the testing or the validity of it but the one thing I can agree on, many of the homophobes are secretly very turned on by it.
As for me, I am bi. It was a shock to me when I discovered I wanted my then wife's bf nearly as much as I wanted her.
It took some years more before I actively tested the waters though and I have liked it both ways.
I much prefer women or fellow CD/TG girls but a good man, yes there are some, is a good find too. I relate as non-op transgender and live as Rosaliy 24/7, although I retained my male image for work up till I retired.
My realization finally gelled when I realized that, seeing images I had seen before, I had stopped thinking 'I would love to be doing that with her' and started thinking 'I would love to be her doing that.'
I used to think I was fairly straight even when I started dressing back in high school. I started later than some but I started because it was 'something I had to do.'
@Minerva Morgan - a good response and excellent presentation.
For my part, I always felt that if you like what you see when I am dressed as a woman, then *I* did a good job presenting myself to advantage. It has nothing whatever to do with you, but is all about me in that respect. Too many men seem to feel that if they are attracted to you as a woman, then find out you are not really, that it someone speaks poorly about themselves as men. WRONG. But I can't help how they think of themselves.
@jenniferathome - I agree, Jennifer. If you are interested in both sides you are interested all the time, not just when you are dressed.
I would agree that some of your 'personal' thoughts might depend on how you are dressed in a given situation but interest remains interest. I thought I was straight till I learned otherwise. Not complaining. Life is good and the loving is too, regardless of who I am loving.
ChristyN246
11-13-2014, 10:46 AM
I'm mostly straight. I have almost no interest in men other than the junk. I've experimented with a friend in the past and never felt any physical or romantic attraction.
Trishpdxcd2
11-13-2014, 11:00 AM
this thread will never end, sadly. But, as I do know, to answer your question/statement, allow me....
You are correct in your first assessment of the myth. In fact, few cross dressers are gay. This fact is clearly reflected on this forum. It makes perfect sense as gay men are attracted to men.
You are wrong in your second aeeseement. Most cross dressers ARE straight. This fact is also represented well on this forum.
You are also wrong in your statement that "most" cross dressers are bi. The correct answer is "some" cross dressers are bi. Your conclusion can not be reached based on the facts in evidence here or in science.
I hope this clarity helps you
I am not sure it matters but if I had to put money on it, I would bet most cd's are heteroflexible...I like that word too.
PaulaQ
11-13-2014, 12:24 PM
You are wrong in your seconding aeeseement. Most cross dressers ARE straight. This fact is also represented well on this forum.
You know, it's a damn fine thing y'all are such straight manly men! Because, surely a straight man in a dress is much more socially acceptable than some disgusting homosexual man! Yep, the world is never gonna accept the pole smokers, the fudge packers, the rump rangers! No WAY will those guys become socially accepted, be allowed to marry, just NO WAY!
Yup, thank god for the salt of the earth, red blooded, all American STRAIGHT crossdresser! You may be ensconced in taffeta, but by all that's holy, you aren't some disgusting perverted gay man!
"The lady doth protest too much, methinks?"
Sarcasm aside (because so many of you come off as so smug and superior on this matter), the reason you all are heterosexual CDs with gender identity issues rather than gay men is because clearly your luck in this hand of cards you were dealt in life sucks nearly as much as mine does. I'd MUCH rather have been a gay man than a transsexual. Some of you act as if being a straight CD is superior to being a gay man. Trust me, from the perspective of most of America, that just isn't the case.
I'll answer the original question that was asked, honestly this time.
The fact is, I've always been really attracted to, and had crushes on, men. I just never felt free to do anything about them. It never felt right as a man. And I could NEVER admit those feelings to myself.
Even after coming out as transsexual, and starting my transition, I found this hard to admit. I guess I internalized the homophobia I grew up with really well.
It turns out that I'm a woman who's really attracted to men. In fact I'm dating one now, and my past history with women feels like I wasted my time, and theirs.
Sierra_juliette
11-13-2014, 12:40 PM
I honestly think this is an unfair assessment, I would choose CD, bi or other porn over straight porn in most cases. In my opinion it has nothing to do with sexual preference, I just enjoy it, like I enjoy my husband dressing. It is more erotic and arousing to me, a GG, so I don't think I am a gay man, at least if I am, I am very closeted.
Michelle-Leigh
11-13-2014, 12:58 PM
Not gay, but bi in which I get in these "girly" moods while dressed and entertain men. I love sometimes to perform a woman's part in sex while dressed. I am anally trained and very skilled at performing fellatio.
belindaH
11-13-2014, 03:02 PM
for what it is worth, I did some research of my own on this question of the preferred sexual orientations of crossdressers. Specifically I looked at Fetlife where individuals generally state their sexual orientations in their profiles. For the sample I examined a couple of hundred profiles and found that over 80% of them described themselves as bisexual or heteroflexible. Admittedly that is a bias sample in that not all crossdresser's will be interested in a using the fetlife website, but fetlife is quite popular and there are 1000's of transgender people on it.
Here is the post on my blog
http://harmonybelle.blogspot.com/2011/06/girls-just-want-to-have-fun-iii.html
Lorileah
11-13-2014, 04:48 PM
Unfortunately or fortunately, this thread is done. Sniping is getting too common and the subject matter is getting beyond control. Go with what you got here and be happy.
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