Breast forms-a step too far ?

[Teresa]

This is not a question about which is best, I have a dilemma about forms.
I have a 31" waist so I add just enough filling in my bra so I don't look too top heavy and have to start padding my bottom half (which I hate!). I use balloons filled with water but the stupid part is I use two, one inside the other because they work better, forms would probably do a better job and yet I feel I'm crossing the line. I would going from something to fill a bra to suggesting I wanted breasts !
My wife has seen me twice ( accidentally, not a happy bunny!) but never asked what I use but I think it would make a big difference to her if she knew.
Does anyone else have the same thoughts please ?

[Suzanne F]

I don't think wearing forms means you want breasts. It could just mean you want to give a better presentation. If you are not bringing these into the bedroom I don't think it is crossing the line. I am basing that on that your wife knows you dress completely as a woman already. Just my opinion! Good luck
Hugs
Suzanne

[Vanessa Rose]

Teresa,


not with the wife necessarily, but earlier on with my ex, I did tread lightly because I did not want her to be overwhelmed ... all about timing and ability to adapt. For me the thought of dressing and being feminine is related to shape and form, so I did not question this. Neither did she... it was part of the female body that men find attractive.


Don't know if that helps much but ultimately I did get many sets of forms... may be good to also have some thoughts about how you would address this if asked. My response if it were today, "no I don't want these things all the time but they are part of the female image so I wanted to see how they changed my look...what do you think?"


hope that makes sense... if not please promptly file in the round filing cabinet.


Vanny

[Chari]

Something else to consider is your height, present weight, and your blouse/dress size. If you add too much to your breast size, you may look top heavy and your clothes may fit too tightly. Observe GG's in your stature/shape to get ideas for a figure you would be confident and comfortable with showing off.

[Brandi Lesalle]

Teresa, I have a very similar situation as my wife has never seen me in fem but I tried on a set of forms the other day and I was in love with them.not only are they more natural in shape but in feel as well. I'm debating getting some just "to make my tops fit better"

[PaulaQ]

The main thing you will notice about breast forms is that the better ones feel very realistic against your body. The motion you get from them against your chest as you move feels awesome - my brain really loved it when I wore mine. (I can't use them anymore, and loaned them to a friend, who had the same reaction - her brain wanted breasts too.)

And yes, your clothes surely do fit better, and you'll feel a lot more feminine. Breasts are a pretty huge cue to gender.

[DonnaT]

forms would probably do a better job and yet I feel I'm crossing the line. I would going from something to fill a bra to suggesting I wanted breasts !
If you don't already have a desire to want breasts, I don't think having forms will make you cross that line. After all, they will be mainly for filling your bra.

If you already had the desire to have breasts (which you apparently don't), proper forms would have helped you achieve your desire without going to the extreme of making body changes.

[Jordan]

I think forms are used by most of us just to give the finale touch to our outfit. Forms do give a better fit I just love wearing them when going up and down stairs they give the feel of being real. But wife as excepted them

[Kaz]

Many many years ago I did the balloons with water trick too. Silicone forms just feel so much better and look so too. Cannot really explain but you will find once having had them there is no turning back. But it is about what you want really... I want to look and feel the best I can given what I have...

Kaz xx

[julia marie]

I suspect that we cross a line the first time we put on a bra and panties, and skirt and heels, and makeup. Forms, even the less expensive ones, feel and look far better than balloons (tried those).

[reb.femme]

I love wearing my forms as they do add to the gender presentation. Without them, my stomach is competing for first place ahead of my chest anyway.

As with all things CD, TG, TS whatever, it really is an individual thing, but I couldn't present without them now. Same as not wearing my wig.

Rebecca

[Lainie]

Forms come in many sizes, easy to find the one that fits your needs. MUCH more convenient than messing with nested water balloons! Would you feel less guilty about wearing panties if you sewed your own out of dish towels, rather than buying them at the store? Forms are just another article of feminine wear. GGs buy gel pads off the rack in the bra section of the department store. You could too. Knee-highs, thigh-highs, and panty hose are all just variations on a theme, appropriate for different occasions. Pads and breast forms are another set of related products for different occasions. Have to agree with others here--they feel great!

The largest forms available don't look oversized on my wide chest. But I don't (ever remotely) pass, and I do have second thoughts when going out in public with them, since they are obviously synthetic on this man in a dress.

[Caden Lane]

Most websites that sell them have a chart that shows which breast form size fits best with your chest measurement.

[Katy120]

Rather than describing breast forms as a step too far I'd describe them as a step in the right direction. IMO, go for it after you have done your homework. There are online resources that can help you select an appropriate size. I think you will be pleased with the result. Best wishes.

[Laura912]

I mean this kindly but latex filled with water versus latex filled with silicone? Both are space occupying masses within a bra and will not lead you any where unless you wish to go. And what everyone else said......

[Annaliese2010]

I use them now and then but mostly prefer au natural. My itty bitty real ones :battingeyelashes:

[sheilagirl]

Get the Forms...You won't regret it.

[Helen Grandeis]

I loved my silicon forms. A lucky sister in Grand Rapids inherited them in my post reveal purge. Someday soon I will replace them. You look great in a British prim and proper, dignified flavor.

[Sophie Yang]

Teresa,

In one of your previous posts, you mentioned that you were a photographer or had done a lot of photography in the past. Most likely you had different lenses, light meters, filters, lights, and used different film speeds. These are all standard equipment for a photographer. Most likely you upgraded to a digital camera by now. For me, forms, wigs, heels, etc. are standard equipment for a cross dresser.

My wife's reaction was a bit different. My first pair she said were too big for an Asian and asked me to order a smaller pair, which I did. I took the smaller pair on location where ever I was working. When I was at home I would use the bigger pair. She takes me over to the local transformation service and had me fitted for an expensive smaller pair for home. In the end I mostly use the second smaller pair I bought. For my wife, it was a safety factor for me.

[natcrys]

I love my forms.. and sometimes I wonder why I didn't get them years earlier. They might be expensive but they're worth every cent! The feeling is great.. and it actually gives you consistent measurements which comes in handy when you're buying your clothes.

And about crossing the line.. don't know about that. I would never want to go out without my forms, but I also wouldn't want real breasts. I actually like the fact that I can take them off.. and put them on when I want to. :)

[Adriana Moretti]

I suspect that we cross a line the first time we put on a bra and panties, and skirt and heels, and makeup. F.
yea...you got your toes in.....now jump in the waters fine

[teri g]

I think I'm in the same situation as you. First off, I'm in a dadt. I never revealed, I was discovered. It was an extremely difficult period of adjustment for my wife with all the usual suspicions, questions etc. She did eventually accept that I couldn't change and begrudgingly accepts it as a part of me. I am strictly hetero, wish to present completely (will only ever in my dreams) and have gone out a few times at nite to open, public places. I didn't own forms when I was discovered but have acquired them since. When she stumbled upon them a few years ago it was not pleasant. Mind you, her response was not overtly confrontational but all the unspoken signs of displeasure were there. So yes, for me it crossed a (yet another) line.

[JennyLynn]

Go to a breast form store. Do a size smaller than what you think you need. Been there, done that!

[Andi1979]

I am in a similar situation, but my wife doesn't know about Carla. I am about to order a set of forms...they are the logical next step so my bra fits properly. If she knows I don't think there is a line to cross, at least not with forms...go for it

[Patty F]

Didn't think much about it, balloons and socks just didn't give the right look or the feel that I wanted so I got forms never regretted it. Having forms doesn't mean you want breast, just a more natural look.

[Beverley Sims]

Sometimes our growing breasts is the greatest problem for our wives to get around.
Nothing wrong with water filled balloons and even small silicone ones for that matter.
I say smaller is better and just little mounds to start with work wonders.
After all other 13 year olds did not grow B cups over night. :)

[CarlaWestin]

Every time you get that little idea in your head and that warm fuzzy feeling, thinking about experiencing all things female, you've crossed some kind of line. Isn't that sometimes why we do this? That heart racing scandalous feeling when you step out in heels, completely dressed and ease into the car, heading out for an adventure. Breastforms? Personally, that was the first fascination. I love that warm, weighted feeling with a nice hugging bra, even in male mode.

[Zylia]

I'd say if you're happy about the way your current (water-filled balloon) breasts look and feel you might as well use that money you would otherwise spend on forms for a nice date with your wife or something like that. The most expensive options obviously are always the best solution, but I do think we're a little bit too occupied with them and it's clearly a case of diminishing returns. Do what works for you, not just as a 'woman' but also as a husband and a human being.

Full disclosure: I do not own any forms myself.

[prene]

I started with water balloons also.
I have moved to small attachable enhancers to get 36A breasts.
I now own 10+ pair of 36B to 36H(to big) forms and 1/2 are attachable. I love them.
I think I want breasts, If I could pass I know I would start hrt and get breasts.
I also have started Herbal supplements containing- Melatonin (Feverfew and St John's Wort), Black Cohosh, Ginko Biloba, Green Tea, Yerba Mate, Magnolia Bark, Chamomile, and Valerian.
I have been taking them for 6 months and have a cleavage.
I do agree. "Do what works for you".
This works for me.

[DaphneMiller]

I definitely recommend getting some forms.
Don't make the same mistake I did though. I had to have them delivered to my work, and decided to pop home during my lunch break to try them on. I loved them so much, I couldn't bring myself to take them off again. I had a real willpower struggle to get back into guy mode and return to work...

Get some. They're great.

Daphne

[Aprilrain]

Does it not strike you as odd that in your avatar you are wearing women's clothing, a feminie style wig, make up, something (whatever it is dosen't really matter) to fill your bra that you don't functionally need and yet your worried that you could be crossing a line by using forms?

Correct me if im wrong but my understanding of your situation is that you are closeted and that your wife knows but does not approve, is that right?

What difference are breast forms going to make?

[Karren H]

I've crossed so many lines that I've lost count....

[Tina B.]

I've been dressing at home in front of the wife for almost 40 years, and have used just about anything you can think of to stuff a bra.
Rolled up socks worked for a while when I was young, but then I've also used bird seed, long grain rice, water, gel, foam forms, and Silicone.
They all worked and got me by at the time. Socks suck, foam, rice, and birdseed are lifeless, water is dangerous (balloons break), but silicone
feels oh so right. As far as any lines, really, I wear women's clothes, wig and makeup, I would say something under the clothes, and out of sight
that does almost the same thing visually as all of those other things, shouldn't make much difference. But then my wife bought me my first set of forms
so I guess I would have trouble finding that line anyway.

[Danielle_cder]

If u are already wearing, heels, hose, panties, slip, dress, bra, blouse, wig, make up….Forms are just a small part of the picture. For me I just like to have nice shape and form, water balloons were great for movement and weight but as for how realistic they looked, not so much. If u are trying to protect your SO and she has already seen u dressed up, then finding a set of forms won't be such a shock ;)

get some sillycone :D and enjoy

[Carole]

I used doubled up balloons as well, Teresa, in my earlier days, went across to something else when one burst and left me quite wet, (most embarrassing cd moment to add to another thread). I got some breast shaped bags filled with small glass beads from somewhere. Silicone forms are awesome when tried for the first time. As others have said they complete the look both in movement and overall shaping.

[Nadine Spirit]

I've tried many different items to fill my bra out some. Balloons, socks, rice bags, gel filled baggies, breast forms, etc. I never looked at anyone of them as being much different than the others in terms of what it meant about my desires for breasts. They have all just been bra fillers or breast emulators. I will say that I did go through about 8 pairs of forms, each one getting more expensive and smaller. I enjoyed them while I used them, but now I just use a padded bra and some small cutlets. It looks better and allows for me to create my own cleavage.

[Steph_CD_62]

I had been stuffing my bra with home made forms made from some white fluffy material that I found in a fabric store. When I found some less expensive real breast forms, I showed my wife and asked her what she thought. She said if it made me happy then get them.
My wife isn't real thrilled when I wear my breast forms, so I usually only do it when she not around. On Sundays I will admit that I wear them all day even in front of my wife.
I don't want my own breasts and she knows it, but it feels nice when I walk around and I can feel them "bounce" a little.

[Jenniferathome]

You are kidding yourself if you think there is some deeper difference. Stuffing your bra, regardless of the source material is the same thing. Forms are just better and far more convenient.

[Taylor186]

My wife has seen me twice ( accidentally, not a happy bunny!) but never asked what I use but I think it would make a big difference to her if she knew.


So what is your current status with your wife - does she know you are a crossdresser or not? Given that you say she saw you twice and was not happy, I'd say forms (versus balloons) are the least of your and her problems with it.

[BLUE ORCHID]

Hi Teresa, I don't really want breasts I just love wearing them when I'm dressed.

[LenGray]

That's up to you, Teresa. Only you can decide what's 'over the line' or even if there is a 'line' at all. :)

I don't think that getting a form would indicate that you want breasts, much as me wearing a binder doesn't mean that I don't want mine. That being said, I've wondered about the same thing with buying a 'packer'...I don't particularly want a penis and find it rather unattractive when I see male's genitalia press against their pants(almost single-handedly the reason why I believe men shouldn't wear slacks lol) I agree that it would make me look more 'believable' but I'm not unduly concerned about believability as much as being comfortable with myself.

Do you like how you look with the balloons? If not, consider whether you would enjoy having realistic breasts or even just go natural with your own. There are several women who have small breasts that aren't horribly noticeable and they're still attractive.

If you feel uncomfortable after thinking through your preferences and options, don't do it. But if you're curious about it, why not give it a go? It's your life and expressing yourself creatively is a part of that wonderful experience :)

[Requal Jo]

I use rice in a knee high stocking (one inside the other for added strength), I have 350gms (do not know oz) in each breast which gives me a B cup. Solid, weighty and moulds to the bra cup like a natural. Lower or increase the weight to adjust the size. I do agree that forms would be more natural but it my wife would have a fit.

[gonegirl]

Wearing forms is embarking on a slippery slope. Before you know it you'll be on hormones, transitioning, kicked out of your house, and living full time as a woman. Don't do it!!!

Just kidding :-)

Fake boobs are just that, whatever it is they are made from. Just relax, have some fun, and thank your lucky stars that you are a cross dresser and not a woman in the wrong body.

PS. Just quickly scanning this thread- every time I read a post where someone refers to "the wife" I give a small scream inside.

[Patty-Fay]

... forms would probably do a better job and yet I feel I'm crossing the line. I would going from something to fill a bra to suggesting I wanted breasts !
If you feel a line is being crossed, then yes - a line is being crossed, a subjective one for you.

If you perhaps have some fear of going too far, consider making greater efforts to enhance the masculine side of you. If you can become more secure with your masculinity, you may no longer worry about going too far to enhance the femininity. You CAN have it both ways.

[drushin703]

when I first bought breast forms (online from the Breast Form Store) I bought
the biggest ones they had available. In my mind, size equaled voluptuousness.
I was wrong about size but not about intent. I needed to create a more educated,
female presentation. Baloons, rolled up socks, foam rubber cut outs, bean bags,
hell I've tried them all. But when I finally decided on my correct size, the breast
forms were just perfect..Perhaps the ideological lines were crossed but the whole
spirit of crossdressing is that of crossing lines.

Relax.
Have some fun.
Life is short.
Crossdress till you die.

dana

[HeatherBrett]

I use balloons for now [try larger single balloons - like those punch-ball ones, but don't fill them all the way - better bounce] but if i had it in my budget it would be the realbreast forms. I'm with the group. We've already crossed that line. Why stop there?

[heatherdress]

I am in a similar situation, but my wife doesn't know about Carla. I am about to order a set of forms...they are the logical next step so my bra fits properly. If she knows I don't think there is a line to cross, at least not with forms...go for it

Carla - Be careful if you have not made your wife aware of Carla. She might intercept your forms and discover Carla the hard way.

[Leslie Iz]

Invest in breast forms if you like, they are worth it! Estrogen therapy might be a step too far for me personally but yet I fight the craving everyday. I should have done it when I was 10 instead of thinking of it at 45, oh well.