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Annie M
03-12-2014, 08:04 AM
I really don't like dressing in drab and the shoes are just ugly. The shirts aren't cut right. Everything I put on is depressing. Ugh...I guess this is what the job market expects, blend in, and a nice tie.....

kimdl93
03-12-2014, 08:26 AM
Just make sure you're wearing a cami and pantyhose underneath ;)

Join the club, Annie. For most of my adult life, work has meant wearing drabs. But remember also that your job is also your independence. Find something that suits you - even if you have to wear a suit - and use the earnings to build the life you want to live.

Chari
03-12-2014, 08:26 AM
Job hunting depends on your knowledge and skills for employment. Some positions are classified as non-gender, while many require a specific education, ability, and previous experience. Consider looking for a job that does not post for "male or female", but that you do meet the required skills and knowledge. It will be your choice to tell the employer you prefer to dress in attire that is NOT "drab and ugly or blend in wearing a nice tie".

Rachel_B
03-12-2014, 08:37 AM
Job hunting is hard especially when you want to dress the way you want to. I have mentioned in a couple other threads that Macy's allows transgender people to work there as long as you follow the dress code for the gender you are appearing as. Here is a link to their code of conduct: http://hr.macys.net/magonline/emag.aspx
There is an exception under the style at work policy and a policy about transgender. I don't know if anybody here has had an issue with shopping at Macy's but the policies even state that employees might interact with crossdressers and should be treated with respect. For any of you girls that have had trouble shopping there, or might have trouble; take the name of the employee and ask to speak to their supervisor to get that behavior fixed.

ClosetED
03-12-2014, 08:48 AM
A few companies have even added SRS to covered medical benefits, if that is your eventual goal.

Kelly DeWinter
03-12-2014, 08:50 AM
My daughter once took an English course in Creative Writing, she complained that what the teacher taught was wrong, un creative and boring. Her first 3 written pieces were graded down because she did not want to follow the teachers instructions. My advice to her was simple "For the purpose of passing the class, give the teacher what she wants, when you are done with the class write the way you want to write" She ended up with an A- in the class.

I'd advise the same , for the purpose of getting a good job with good pay, dress as expected, then once you secure the position, be yourself. Just remember the probationary period is usually 30-90 days. :)

hazelm
03-12-2014, 08:56 AM
I've often wondered what wearing a cami under a shirt might look like. When wearing a suit it wont be as noticable, but with just a shirt? Unless it is a cami that looks like a vest, I wouldn't risk it.

Katey888
03-12-2014, 09:12 AM
Annie - I see you're an art teacher... :)

I'm sure the good advice here is: get the job - do a good job - pass probation - push the boundaries... gently... see how they stretch.

You're in Art...! I always thought that meant there was a lot more latitude for individual style and flair... ;)

More scope than international tech marketing... :(

Katey x

Melissa_59
03-12-2014, 09:15 AM
As an amusing aside, I saw a picture on Imgur the other day of a young lady wearing a dress and a Sauron helmet and the caption read "Dress for the job you want". Couldn't help but laugh at that.

Annie M
03-12-2014, 07:42 PM
Well I had the interview in my monkey suit, it didn't go to badly. The strange part is its a woman owned firm! I did meet some of the staff ( small group) but the other cad person who is leaving, was a woman but she had an Adam's apple and large hands. I'm not sure but they might be more tolerant of TS employees! I would love to get back into 24 / 7. Very odd day.

Beverley Sims
03-13-2014, 10:57 AM
If you want a job, a deep voiced, square shouldered woman that walks like a man is not what they need.
They are probably looking for drab and ugly anyway.
Have you got a job yet? :)

MsVal
03-13-2014, 03:12 PM
Some kinds of work require uniforms of one sort or another. They are seldom stylish, comfortable, or what you'd wear on a dinner date, but they go with the paycheck. Those that want the job accept the uniform. You may have to wear a type of uniform to obtain and retain the job.

If you are independent enough and wealthy enough to be able to do so, keep looking for a uniform-less job, they are out there.

Best wishes
MsVal

Helen Grandeis
03-13-2014, 05:33 PM
Check out Ashley Brundage on Facebook. She went to employer as Ashley and convinced them of her value. She not only has a dynamite career but also is a spokesperson for trans causes in Tampa, FL