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dreamer_2.0
03-21-2014, 10:14 PM
I'm sorry if this post is a bit disjointed. It's been a very hard day and I'm trying to piece things together.

Over the last week my GD and depression have gotten extremely bad. A few days ago on the bus I was surrounded by women around my age who I deeply envied. I felt so trapped, the anxiety was building and I just wanted to explode, but kept my lid on. This morning however, perhaps aided by a poor sleep last night, I think I may have officially broke. I spent close to 45 minutes in the shower desperately trying to cry or find some form of release. Suddenly I lashed out and punched the wall hard then sank to my knees cradling my bruised but thankfully not broken hand.

I wandered around my apartment in a daze after this, periodically sitting on the couch or a chair just staring at nothing.

Today was a day off work and I had planned on visiting my parents for dinner and doing some laundry. That wasn't going to happen with my current state of mind so I called them to cancel. My dad answered and I apologized asking to reschedule. He asked what was up and if I was ok. I hesitated, unable to answer this simple question. He repeated the question with concern in his voice. After a few moments I answered, honestly, no I don't think I'm alright...and then the tears started flowing. He was now very concerned and asked if I wanted him to come over. I said yes and he left right away.

Crap I kept thinking to myself, what have I done? I can't tell him about this trans bullish*t. I'm not ready yet! Perhaps I could just talk about everything but being transgender.

He arrived a short while later and I told him how depressed I am and how I feel like such a mess. I've become a recluse, have lost contact with most of my friends, work at a soul-sucking job I hate which offers zero satisfaction aside from the paycheque. I feel as if I've accomplished nothing, have no ambition and no interest in anything the world has to offer. I feel completely disconnected from the family because I'm just so different from them (they're conservative Christian and I am most certainly not).

He assured me that a lot of this was all wrong and that I have accomplished a lot in various life adventures. Not many people fall into their dream job and often just have to roll with what life gives them. As for our family, we have our differences but I'm still loved very much. We talked about various high points I've had in my life but both agreed that the last few years or so I've been quite stagnant.

My dad is an intelligent man and questioned where this all came from and if there was some underlying connection. I froze.

After a long pause, I said I was about to tell him something that I didn't want him to ever know, at least not until I was ready to tell him. He said we didn't have to continue but I pressed on saying that there has been something beneath everything I've told him. Something that's been with me since childhood but never understood or believed it to be connected to the rest of my life.

I decided to test the water first, as I did with one of my sisters several months ago, and asked what his thoughts would be if I told him I was gay? He took a deep breath, looked at the ceiling and after a long pause finally said that he didn't know what he would think. He understood that many people chose to live that lifestyle and while he didn't agree with it he still loved me.

I nodded and told him that I wasn't gay but wished I would as it may make what I was about to tell him easier. I explained that after speaking with a couple therapists and hours researching that I've concluded I'm transgender.

He was vaguely familiar with the term and asked me to explain. I shared that I suffer from Gender Dysphoria, essentially hating that I'm male, and feel it's ruining my life. I emphasized that I do not want these feelings and that I just want to be a regular guy but based on experience and research that wasn't going to happen. There's no cure and it's lifelong as evidenced by my admitting these feelings have been around since childhood through all my highs and lows, it's always there.

Understandably, he didn't really comprehend this, I didn't expect him to. Fortunately he remained civil though questioned my choice to live this life.

I told him that, like homosexuality, this is not a choice and repeated that I do not want these feelings. I do not want this life and certainly do not want to be having this conversation with him.

It took him a while but I believe he eventually conceded that this wasn't a choice I've made for myself. He strongly suggested I seek alternate life paths or choose to live on despite these feelings as many people live on with their struggles. I explained that I've tried seeking alternatives with attempting to alleviate the depression by taking anti-depressants, exercising, eating healthy, ignoring or suppressing everything. But nothing has worked. The closest I've come to finding a "cure" is something called Reparative Therapy though there is no credible evidence that this is an effective treatment and is widely believed to do more harm than good.

If there was no cure, he asked, then what does that mean for me? I told him about HRT and a possible MtF transition. It was easy to tell how uncomfortable hearing this made him. He again suggested I seek alternatives but I repeated that after 32 years I feel as if I've run out of options. I explained that many men attempt to pursue a traditionally masculine life, get married, raise a family, but this often ends in ruin. Suicide is staggeringly high among transgender people and while I haven't made an attempt on my life...the thoughts are there and they're quite powerful.

I can't live like this I told him.

We discussed how the rest of the family would take the news as we've never experienced something like it. The closest we've come is a cousin of mine who is gay. My parents don't agree with his choices (I corrected him again saying this isn't a choice) but they still love him. But this? This is very different and will have a significant impact on everyone. This I agreed with and shared that I had already come out to one of my sisters months back and that her and her own family will support me completely.

My older sister on the other hand...

My parents are quite conservative but they're nothing like my oldest sister. She's very strict with her kids (small example being she's anti-Harry Potter as it promotes witchcraft). There is an extremely small chance of her accepting this news warmly. I expressed my fear in losing contact with my nieces and nephews. My dad said that was possible but they may come around eventually. Who knows though.

My dad also expressed deep concern over how my mother would respond. This is completely understandable as I'm their only son and they were so happy to have me after having two girls. He said that, for the time being like my older sister, we shouldn't mention anything. I agreed.

He was happy that I'm seeking help but wanted me to continue trying to find alternatives and even requested that I give Christianity another chance. I apologized and declined that request saying that religion has no place in my life. I grew up being a bible-thumper but started thinking for myself and came to my own conclusions about it.

Our conversation continued for a while and concluded with me saying how sorry I was for all this. I didn't want this burden and certainly don't want to share it. He appreciated the apology but said it wasn't necessary as he still loves me, no matter what.

With that, he got up, hugged me tightly and left.

Overall the conversation went better than I expected even if he doesn't fully understand what I'm going through. I acknowledged that he would probably need some time to process everything (heck, I'm still processing it and I've been working on it for around a year now!).

This conversation was a few hours ago and I'm still in a daze from it. I can't believe I told my dad...wow.

ChristinaMarie
03-21-2014, 10:32 PM
That's a great story hun, I'm glad he at least hugged you and supported you! You won't please everyone but I think once ppl see you during and after transition and how happy you are they tend to start to understand and accept more..

Ineke Vashon
03-21-2014, 10:42 PM
You have taken a big step. It took a lot of courage to do what you did. I hope that your talk released some of your pressure.

Good luck,
Ineke

DreamRin
03-21-2014, 11:54 PM
Congratulations on taking this hard step!
Fortunately your dad could at least understand your condition and try to reason with it. It probably has something to do with you being an independent girl and (judging by his responses) a very reasonable person.
Unfortunately i didn't have the same success with my mother, but that is a story for another time.

Regarding your family it might be wise to slowly introduce them to who you are, taking slow steps so as not to shock them much. I think it'd be way worse if you just showed up one day fully dressed, it takes some time for people to realize that the one you are inside isn't going to change, its only the exterior that suffers alteration to match with the person you always were!

Have a nice day~

GenieGirl
03-22-2014, 12:29 AM
Congrats on coming out to your dad and I wish you the very best with your future and family.

sandra-leigh
03-22-2014, 02:08 AM
Dreamer, this is very much something that can break us, and take us to the places we never wanted to be, and have us tell people we never wanted to find out, because the alternatives for us seem worse.

I suspect you were probably practically physically shaking before you could get the words out to your father, worried about what he and the family would say, worried about whether you were just about to ruin your whole life. I've been there not long ago, shaking before taking to my mother.

You may perhaps have felt that telling him was through "weakness" on your part, but telling him was from the part of you that wanted desperately to live. It takes a strong sane person to reach out for assistance when it is needed.

Have you had a chance to see Jules (gender therapy) yet ? She's not going to "cure" you, but she will help you find your way to live.

In the UK, the head of the largest "reparative therapy" group, a "Christian" group, announced about 1 1/2 years ago that the group was stopping doing gay reparative therapy because they had not been able to really help even a single person, and that instead the people they had treated who had become fully functional members of society were those who had accepted their homosexuality and entered into loving long term relationships. Everything that I have seen so far suggests that being trans is even harder to "get rid of" than being homosexual. Except that the people going through trans reparative therapy tend not to go on to become healthy productive members of society: they have a tendency to kill themselves instead.

Your father is shocked. But considering that he told you he loves you and hugged you, you might find in time that he is willing to go to the meetings of the Parents And Friends of Transgendered, which is at Rainbow on the second Tuesday of every month (staring at 7:00 pm)

You are shaking, but not so long from now you will understand that this day was progress. Sometimes progress is frightening while it happens.

mbmeen12
03-22-2014, 02:49 AM
That was huge and thank you for sharing. I thought the post was well written too. They say in these many words of advice on this web site that when you decide you have to transition, be prepared to lose everything to friends family etc. The love and support of your father was there!
With that, he got up, hugged me tightly and left.
//Kara//

marshalynn
03-22-2014, 02:53 AM
Dreamer-girl, when I told my mother and brothers about three months ago, it was the best thing to happen to me in a long time, I did not feel quite as alone, than before telling them.. now I feel free to be my self, as I want to be. I bet you will get this weight of guilt and lonely feeling lifted from your life now as well. May I suggest you start living your fem life a little every day. May be fem jeans, fem conservative shoes and add a little more as you are ready. I hope things work out better for you. Love Marsha

Rianna Humble
03-22-2014, 05:10 AM
I know I've said it before, but it applies here: parents can surprise us pleasantly.

You had all sorts of fears about his reaction - I believe that was the GD trying to hold you back - but they didn't turn out to be true. He probably hasn't understood very much at all of what you told him (who can blame him, it's hard enough for us to understand), but the most important parts of his reaction IMNSHO were when he told you he loves you no matter what and when he hugged you .

Angela Campbell
03-22-2014, 05:12 AM
Yes, telling people close to you is very difficult. The good news is you only have to tell him that one time and it is over. Next time you talk will be easier. That talk with my mom was the hardest thing I ever did.

things will get better.

I Am Paula
03-22-2014, 07:46 AM
As hard as it seems, coming out to your parents is just one of those things that's 'on the list'. Your Dad seems to have handled it well enough, and opened doors for you. Knowing you have at least one person in your court can help immeasurably. They should get easier as you go, and use the mindset that you win a few, you lose a few, and hopefully you discover how few you lose.

Dawn cd
03-22-2014, 08:24 AM
Brave girl, with a loving father. It must be such a relief to take the lid off, even in a small way. Remember, you don't have to take care of them. From now on you just take care of yourself.

MsVal
03-22-2014, 09:36 AM
Those conversations are often very difficult, but then again, less difficult than living without them. It's a tough thing to do, and I want to congratulate you and your dad for the way it was handled.

Best wishes
MsVal

Amy A
03-22-2014, 11:12 AM
Well done, I know how terrifying that moment is when you say words that can't be clawed back. Hopefully once you've got a bit of distance between yourself and the big event you'll start to feel a bit of that weight lifting. You have carried this burden long enough on your own!

I understand completely the need to apologise, I know I did when I came out to my parents, but as time goes on you'll feel less guilty and start to see this as the start of an upturn. My parents now view my coming out as the point when I stopped drifting away from them and life and started to look happy again.

On the reparative 'therapy' point, I watched an interesting documentary on C4 the other day, where an openly gay doctor tried various 'treatments' to cure homosexuality offered by various religious groups and fake doctors. It was an eye opener and it was impossible to view these techniques as nothing but destructive. All they managed to do was delay people coming to terms with and embracing their sexuality, causing more self hate and misery.

Anyway, congrats, this is a really great step for you, and I'm really happy for you :).

dreamer_2.0
03-22-2014, 11:25 AM
Thanks for your support everyone. A weight may have lifted but I don't feel that yet. If anything, it feels more weight has been put on. Perhaps I'm just in shock from what happened and it will feel better in time.

Today I'm debating on going to work. I should probably be around people but not sure if work is the right place.

Emjay
03-22-2014, 11:57 AM
Congratulations on your conversation with your Dad. I'm so glad to hear that he took the news well and is supportive of you! As Rianna said, parents can surprise us. I know my Mom did when I came out to her recently. My Dad is next on my 'list' to come out to and I'm hoping it goes well.

I hope the weight you are feeling lessens soon, you're absolutely, *definitely* not alone.

Rachel292
03-22-2014, 02:38 PM
He now knows, he may not fully understand, but he says "he loves you no matter what". You have started a very difficult process. And after it settles down, you will be able to take another step. It may only be a small one, but they all count.
You cried out for help, and you were not turned away.
Give yourself a bit of time for it to settle in.
You may not get favourable responses from everone, but I can assure you that it wouldn't have helped by keep living a lie. From experience the pressure only gets worse, you have now opened up and it's down to you to take advantage of the reduced pressure and Start Being Positive.
if there is one thing i've learned is that you should do things or make decisions on the circumstances at the time and above all you must be honest with yourself (tell yourself a lie and the decision is wrong). You will in the future look back and think, yes it was right to do that then, and with hindsight you could say, I would do the same under the same circumstances, then it was the right thing to do. I hope that you can now work through your issues and achieve a positive outcome. If transition is the answer then you must at least consider it. It will be painful for some to accept but hopefully they will eventually understand. I only told my mum a day ago (that i'm a crossdresser) and it couldn't have gone better, like your father she said she loves me no matter what.

Bria
03-22-2014, 03:09 PM
Dreamer, I cried for you all the time I was reading your post and the replies. I'm so happy that your Dad still loves you and can hug you. I'd give you a big hug if I was there I hope you will see a light at the end of the tunnel that is the light of love and happiness.

Hugs Bria

Rachel Smith
03-22-2014, 06:38 PM
While I didn't have this conversation with my parents because I am in Virginia and they are in PA. If you look in the Coming Out Letters section you can see the letter I sent to them. The result I got was almost the same, it doesn't matter as long as you are happy we still love you. For me that was just the greatest thing I could ever hear. When they see how much happier you are they will come around. My parents said they could even hear it in my voice. My parents too are very religious as well and I was sure it wouldn't go over to well. Just give them some time to process it then perhaps talk with your Father some more. Either way congrats, I remember how nervous I was after I mailed that letter and I am sure it was much worse for you doing it in person. That took some courage, I must say.

Thanks for sharing
Rachel

Lilo
03-23-2014, 01:55 AM
Congratulations! Every time you come out to an important person in your life is super stressful and takes a while for you to realize the 'reduction' of weight. You probably feel more weight right now because the cat is out of the hat and with every person you loose more control over who knows. Yet, you will find (if you continue on this path) that every time it is a bit easier. I think this is due to self acceptance. You will quickly realize that you can do this and much more. You also realize that you deserve a full and happy life without having to settle for any of the 'alternatives' that others will suggest. Congratulations on this big step.

dreamer_2.0
03-23-2014, 10:17 AM
Hopefully this liberating feeling comes around as I'm totally regretting coming out to him. It was unexpected, unplanned and premature. If I don't go through with transition then my dad now knows something he doesn't need to know.

Still in shock perhaps but feeling more ashamed than ever.

Lilo
03-23-2014, 10:30 AM
Well, I dont know how 'normal' this is but it is EXACTLY how I felt when first coming out 1 1/2 years ago. I had the same doubt about letting go of this 'dark secret' (I had thought). Truth is that there is never an 'easy' time. I realize you feel it is premature but you should also understand that you can take as long as you need to do anything else. There should not be any pressure on you to do anything. I am sure you will find that the world does not crumble when you open up and this will eventually give you confidence to open more. This was my experience and I hope it pans out similarly with you.

Rachel Smith
03-24-2014, 06:53 AM
. If I don't go through with transition then my dad now knows something he doesn't need to know.

First don't feel ashamed. That is a bad road.

It's not that your Dad knows something he doesn't need to know but that you think it would be better off hidden and you keeping the status quo. That only keeps you in a place that is not good, IMHO. I would like to ask you some questions. Do you find no comfort in knowing that even though he may not agree with you that he and your Mother still love you? To me that was one of the most positive experiences I ever had. Can you not see the positives in that? Have you ever been this honest with your parents? Does that not feel good? You now have someone in your life that when they ask you how you are doing they REALLY want to know. It is up to you to keep the honesty with him/them going and take comfort in the fact that their love is unconditional and you always have a soft place to land.

None of this means you have to rush into anything or do anything at all ever. Take your time, hell I took two years from the first thoughts of transitioning to actually starting.

Stay positive and don't rush. You WILL know when and if it's time for you.

Hugs
Rachel