Your natural hair color?

[sandra-leigh]

I was just watching a YouTube video 10 Little Known Facts About Human Hair (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfm0Se5cdBc). Not much too it, but it did mention that "Blondes have more estrogen".

Now I am indeed naturally Blonde, of the shade sometimes called "Dirty Blonde", which is a shade that can appear brown in the interior, and which is fairly easily sun-bleached into lighter colors. Is this related to my transnessness ? Who knows?

What is (was) your natural hair color, and how strong would you rate your CD/TG/TS identity?

[Martha G]

My hair color was darkish brown.

Now it is flesh colored.

With fair skin and blue eyes I usually use a blonde wig. Also like red lips as well.

[celeste26]

I have almost a rainbow of colors from stark white to deep auburn it flows all the way down to the middle of my back.

Not sure how to rate my CD/TG/TS identity? TS mainly.

[Kate Simmons]

That is something only my hair dresser knows for sure SL and she ain't talkin'. :heehee::)

[Mafalda]

Black! With some whitish...

[sanderlay]

I'm a dark blond / light brunette. I'm about 3.5 inches, 8.9 cm, below the top of my shoulders. On top is my problem because I suffer with male pater baldness. Currently I can comb back the hair to cover the issue. But in about 5 years I may loose that ability. Wigs and hats are what I'm considering. But it must be comfortable and full time use.

I've accepted who I am and I'm full time with my dressing. I'm not planing on HRT but I always leave the door open. Never say never. So I guess I'm CD / TG.

[Ezekiel]

Can't help but feel a bit... lets say surprised... at this thread.

How can hair colour be related to transness in any way, when transness is all over the planet? From people with very dark skin and hair complexion to extremely pale skin and hair complexion.

Am I missing something here?

[natcrys]

My hair is as black as the night! And I think of myself as a person who is as CD/TG as possibly can be.. so how this does all work?? :confused:

I noticed the video didn't have any references to scientific studies.. does anyone have anything solid?

[Erica Marie]

My natural hair color as a child was a sandy brown color. As I got older it got a bit darker and my tg tendencies got a bit stronger. Not sure if science has anything to do with it or just the way I am.

[susan jackson]

I'm lucky in as much as my hair is very long, so I don't need to wear a wig any more

When I was born, my hair was very blonde - almost peroxide blonde. As I grew older, it got darker, so now it is best descibed as 'mud' colour!!! Sadly, I am also showing signs of greyness

Anyway, this is my true hair colour

[natalie edwards]

Hmm....interesting. As a kid it was a dirty blonde/light brown, as I got older it became a darker brown.

[Raychel]

My hair was always dirty blonde/light brown as well, then I got married and had kids,
now it is mostly gray or so it looks when I see the trimmings after a hair cut,
Looking in the mirror I still see light brown, But that may just be a problem with the mirror or my eyes. :heehee:

[ArleneRaquel]

As a youngster my hair was blonde, it grew darker as I aged, now its snow white. Ebfemme I wear wigs.

[Ezekiel]

My hair is as black as the night! And I think of myself as a person who is as CD/TG as possibly can be.. so how this does all work?

Of course, basically what I was saying. My hair is dark too. This doesn't make sense.

[anna kate]

Was dark brown as a kid. Now (at 74) is getting lighter, because the gray is starting to infiltrate. It's long enough to curl under, but short enough to comb back, in male mode. Consider myself a CD, no desire, at this point, to make any alterations.

[DesireeFl]

Brown and getting very thin, it wouldn't rate at all with my Cd identity, thank goodness for wigs!

[KaceyR]

Mine was always blonde... dunno if it was considered dark enough to be a "dirty" blonde. Beard was darker with some red.
What it means to my CDing/younger 'sensitivity' I dunno.

Now probably some gray (with receding hairline I keep it all shaved off anymore)-I know beard has some grey..
Funny though... when I got my first regular style wig for CDing, I got a blonde matching what it would have been when I had good hair.
Mom said "that color doesn't look good on you" when she saw it.... go figure :)

[BLUE ORCHID]

Hi Sandra, Maybe that explains why I dye my gray hair blonde.
Maybe I have too much Estrogen.

[Felicia Dee]

Born with light golden brown. Quickly turned black. Flesh toned now, lol. As such, I gravitate toward wigs that are closest to what my hair was. On that scale you mentioned... I seem to float. Basically, I consider myself to be part of the TG community as a whole.

[NathalieX66]

My hair is actually walnut brown and kind of straight. It is shoulder length, but but kind of feathery. My present hair style looks like politician Michele Bachmann, who I hate. I'm about ready to do something different like layering or hilights.

[DorothyElizabeth]

IN my youth, my hair was very light blonde. During the Summer, it got even lighter - to the extent that when I returned to school in the Fall, I was often accused of having bleached it. As I aged, it got darker, and is now mostly what I would call "dirty blonde" - well - except for the grey, that is. I am always surprised at how grey it has gotten in the past ten years. The color rendition in this picture is pretty accurate. That photo was taken two years ago, when I went to my hair dresser to have him deal with the split ends and color my eyebrows, which had gone very grey. HE was funny, though, and talked me into having some highlights done in my hair, to reduce some of the greying. (If anyone is in the Baltimore, Maryland area, and wants his name, send me a PM - he is top notch.)

[Marcelle]

When my hair grows out it is dark brown bordering black. However these days it is a little further back on my head than it used to be.

Hugs

Isha

[Beverley Sims]

I was a honey blonde, this faded with time. :(

[Tracii G]

When I was little my hair was white then turned blonde with auburn streaks.
A bit darker now and more a light brown with auburn highlights.

[Adriana Moretti]

mines shaved....one of these days I am going to take a picture with full makeup with a shaved head....i kinda like the way it looks in that Grace Jones Kinda way...

[ReineD]

How can hair colour be related to transness in any way, when transness is all over the planet? ... Am I missing something here?

It's wishful thinking I'm afraid. The article also states that blondness does not relate to (genetic) male hormones levels.

Here is another article with the same fact, plus a few more facts about blond/es:

1. Blondes are more susceptible to age-related macular degeneration.
2. Blond hair and blue eyes might be correlated to certain medical conditions (learning disabilities, dyslexia).
3. Blond men may be discriminated against in Britain.

... and 6 more facts about body hair, redheads, beards, eyelashes, baldness, etc.

http://listverse.com/2013/11/27/10-incredible-facts-about-human-hair/

[Ezekiel]

I was trying to point out that exactly, that it just seemed ridiculous to me, and kind of felt offended by the thread. It would not make any sense given, again, how transness is found all over the planet.

[Kelly Greene]

Hair is red turning white as my years increase

[Katey888]

Yes - once again, Interwebs factoids come up trumps!


3. Blond men may be discriminated against in Britain.


This was what one statistics based paper implied - but check out other statistics about the Brits and you'll find that blondes make up between 5-47% of the population depending on which region you look at... so those with a high incidence of Danish Viking incursions and Anglo-Saxon settlement (where I'm from, coincidentally..) have a much higher proportion of blondes... but we're obviously not the stuff of CEOs... way too girly, I suppose... :devil:

And Ezekiel - don't be too offended - I think anything on the internet has to be taken with a pinch of salt and a wry smile... Pretty much anything can be 'proven' with statistical correlation - like the direct but inversely proportional relationship between the number of Pirates (as in 'Hah, hah, Jim me lad'... - type) and Global Warming... :facepalm:

So I'm light brown with a fairly sallow complexion - perhaps why a darker blonde suits me, but I can get away (I think!) with an auburn brown.

Just don't believe everything you read - even here.... :D

Katey x

[ReineD]

Katie, I wasn't taking the article as fact ... just pointing out the other things it suggested to put the 'blonde' fact in question.

[Anna H]

I think anything on the internet has to be taken with a pinch of salt and a wry smile...

On my work related forums, people get into Googling contests trying to out-prove
each other. It takes about 10 seconds sometimes to cut and paste the exact same
quotes they're using as "proof".

Some of the quickest Googlieros don't even realize we're onto them! lol!

The internet is a great thing....but lots of info is much better used for making baloney
sandwiches. And Tons of high quality "natural" fertilizer (...otherwise know as BS ;-))

BTW...my hair was blonde. It's turned a silver-blondish streaked color. Which sounds
Much better than "grey". (I'll have to google it and see if I can get away with
saying that...) :P

:happy:

[Melissa_59]

My hair - back when I had some - was red. Now it's mostly gone, and what's left has more white in it than red. My eyebrows are mostly blond though. Strange, I know.

[Lorileah]

Of course, basically what I was saying. My hair is dark too. This doesn't make sense.


My hair is as black as the night! And I think of myself as a person who is as CD/TG as possibly can be.. so how this does all work?? :confused:

I noticed the video didn't have any references to scientific studies.. does anyone have anything solid?

Of course not, if there was it would be a good way to diagnose low T or high E right? I am sure the OP was poking fun here not stating that she saw this as a scientific fact. It is no different than saying you are T because your mom dressed you as a child or you had sisters.

[sandra-leigh]

I was trying to point out that exactly, that it just seemed ridiculous to me, and kind of felt offended by the thread. It would not make any sense given, again, how transness is found all over the planet.

Doing Science starts with an idea, that is turned into a hypothesis; then one considers how the hypothesis can be tested, and proceed to test it. Testing may disprove it completely, or facts might give evidence for a modified hypothesis, or facts might uncover evidence for a nearly unconnected hypothesis -- for example, while examining the patterns of spider webs, one might notice a new species of insect.

The responses here so far suggest an "excess" of blonde haired individuals associated with CD/TG/TS. Is there actual correlation to that, or is it selective response (i.e., the non-blondes tend not to reply), or is it socio-economic related (Caucasians appear to be over-represented on this board relative to the general population) ? At least two of those possibilities lead to ideas worth further thought.

Was the original hypothesis that all CD / TG / TS is associated with blonde hair? No. Some genetic mutations occur more commonly with particular hair colours. That doesn't mean that no-one else has those mutations, and that doesn't mean that any one mutation is the only cause of some result -- but it does mean that if you pick a blonde person at random from the population of the earth and you pick a red-haired person at random from the population of the earth, then there are some conditions that are more probable in the blonde, and there are some conditions that are more probable with the red-head.

The fun being poked here is, by the way, around the fact that so many of us spend so much time looking for "reasons" why we are as we are. None the less, if I were to end up with an Ignoble Prize out of this ("Science that makes you laugh, and then think"), I would be happy to accept :)

[Ezekiel]

The responses here so far suggest an "excess" of blonde haired individuals associated with CD/TG/TS. Is there actual correlation to that, or is it selective response (i.e., the non-blondes tend not to reply), or is it socio-economic related (Caucasians appear to be over-represented on this board relative to the general population) ? At least two of those possibilities lead to ideas worth further thought.

My overall opinion is: No, there is no correlation to blondness and transgenderism. It just disregards those of us who are not blond, and given that most people is not blond, and blonds are a minority on the whole planet, I doubt it is related to transness in any sense. I mean, I can say its very frequent in Thailand for example compared to the U.S., just because they look to be so many, but its probably just as frequent arround the rest of the world and in the end its just that they are more noticed in Thailand.

Basically yes, I understand that you are trying to point that there may be more transgenderism in blondes than in the rest of us, that it occurs with an higher chance. But I just don't see the connection anywhere, and its not because I don't understand the hypothesis, its just because I don't see why would it be related given the frequency of it in places where there are no blondes arround.

So in the end, I think the survey will not really give much information.

[sandra-leigh]

Are red-haired people generally less sensitive to anesthesia? Ezekiel, your reply would be, "No, that disregards those of us who are not red-haired, and given that most people are not red-haired, and red-haired people are a minority on the whole planet, I doubt that being red-haired is related to sensitivity to anesthesia in any sense." And yet that situation does have scientific studies that establish the link (http://science.howstuffworks.com/science-vs-myth/everyday-myths/redhead-anesthesia.htm).

You cannot establish a fact about a group by studying only the non-members of the group. You need to compare between groups , which you are not doing.

[Ezekiel]

Sure, there are differences in all of us, and some are more prone to some things than others, based on their genetics. But, as I said before, I don't see any relationship between hair color and transness, and I have my reasons, just as you have your reasons to see otherwise. I am not searching comparisons because I just don't see enough reason to start doing so.

I'm sorry, I don't see the link between hair and transgenderism, and as I said, its my opinion, to which I'm entitled, and I'm not establishing any counter actions. I could not help but feel a little offended by the thread and that probably was a mistake, but thats all, not my intention to antagonize you.

[sandra-leigh]

Really I just tossed in this topic for amusement, but the more I look at it, the more it is appearing that there really could be some science to this.


A ‘digit ratio’ study indicates that prenatal exposure to estrogen is higher in individuals with blond hair or non-brown eyes (Mather et al., unpublished).

Which is a quote from an anthropology blog article about whether eye colour is sex-linked, http://evoandproud.blogspot.ca/2011/05/is-eye-color-sex-linked.html

Digit ratio is experimentally correlated with transgender and transsexual people, matching the hypothesis that at least some TG /TS cases are linked to interference with the testosterone gradient at about 6 weeks, leading to incomplete masculinization. This has been demonstrated in animal models, but is under dispute in humans.

I do not have any difficulty with the hypothesis that hair colour might link to a higher prevalence of tg/TS, as long as no claim is made that there are no other mechanisms at play. To pick a figure out of the air, it would be interesting even if the prevalence of TS in blondes turned out to (say) 10% higher than in the general population.

[KayleeAnn]

I'm naturally a brunette but I don't like it. I keep my natural hair short so I can go out as a man but when I'm at home dressed I wear what I call my "natural" hair color wig which is red, light red really.