For ALL of you who go out "dressed"...

[Wildaboutheels]

"Dressed", as in wearing anything at all on the outside that might get you "busted". [Being underdressed - no matter to what extent - does not count here]

Also, FEmale jeans DO NOT count, unless they are covered in sequins, rivets or have hand sized or bigger, butterflies, rainbows, flowers etc., on the rear end or elsewhere.

How many of you have ever attended a LGBT/LGBT "friendly" place? Bar, restaurant, event etc.?

[Nadine Spirit]

Nope, not once, ever.

[Cindy J Angel]

Ok so what r u asking. Yes I go out dress just about aver day and even work out dress in womans workout outfits and love them .
Yes I have been out to lgbt clubs as cind and as him . Back in the 84 had a lot of g&l friends that only went out to them. Dam i Miss being young

[Michelle (Oz)]

If you are asking about establishments that specifically targets LGBTs ... never. I do frequent very many places dressed that are friendly to me and therefore friendly to LGBTs.

[kimdl93]

All of the above and many more places not necessarily presumed friendly.

[Carmen]

I prefer my hip hugging low waist girlie jeans without sequins, embroidery or otherwise.

Countless numerous posts at this forum are about going to 'friendly' places...resturaunts, clubs, meetings etc.

So what is your point here?

[Marcelle]

WAH,

I am not 100 percent sure what you are asking? However if you ask about going out dressed that might get me busted and by busted I guess you mean "read" . . . every time I go out I get "read / busted" regardless of what I am wearing. I dress like I see other GGs dressed (jeans, boots, coat, scarf) I still get read. If I were to go out dressed as Pippy Longstocking or Little Bo Peep "en femme" I would get read as well . . . just quicker.

Hugs

Isha

[Adriana Moretti]

we are all "READ" in one way or another...its only those will balls ( neatly tucked of coarse) & confidence that go out. Its not that big of a deal ESPECIALLY to a LGBT place ....

[AndreaCD1963]

Yes, I have gone out dressed, both "fully" done and partially (guy wearing one or more women's items that is visible).
Yes, when I first went out, I went to LGBT bars/clubs
Yes, I have gone to "mainstream" places dressed - restaurants, stores, gas station.

Not sure what the question in the OP really is though?

[Kate Simmons]

I go to my local LGBT resort club all the time dressed to the nines of course.:battingeyelashes::)

[Vanessa5]

Although I have not attended any LGBT places I do go out to other places. I do get read but am often complimented on my attire. My local thrift store is a favorite of mine just because I am accepted there. There are other places that have been lets say less than supportive of my (our) hobby and they don't get my money any more.

[PaulaQ]

First place I ever went out dressed alone was an Irish pub in Tulsa. I apparently passed, as I'm still alive to tell the tale... ;) I've also gone to little dive bars in rural Oklahoma while dressed. These are the opposite of LGBT friendly places. I had dinner in both of them.

Once I'd done that, no place in the city of Dallas remotely worried me when I started living fulltime.

I'm not sure what the question was either. I was presenting fully female on all these excursions as I basically don't give a damn what other people say.

[Lynn Marie]

Do YOU actually READ the stuff YOU'RE asking us about our excursions into the RW?

SORRY, but I seriously doubt it!

[Zylia]

I go out "dressed" and I have attended LGBT-friendly places, or 'gay bars' as some people like to call them, on several occasions. However, I have never visited a gay bar en femme, so there's that.

[PaulaQ]

However, I have never visited a gay bar en femme, so there's that.

Interesting, I've never visited a gay or lesbian bar in drab. I was pretty uptight about stuff like that as a dude.

[sanderlay]

I have not made a point of going out to a LGBT friendly place or event, although I have considered it. I may have gone to one and not known it, but I don't think so. I do have friends, some LGB, that I have socialized with in the real world, not the internet, while I was dressed. These were generally private gathering, in and outside. Non were "T" that I know of or dressed as such.

I'm a fairly private and independent person. :)

[Zylia]

Interesting, I've never visited a gay or lesbian bar in drab. I was pretty uptight about stuff like that as a dude.
Well, I actually found out that a lot of guys visit gay bars :D Anyway, if you live in Amsterdam, you don't have to go out of your way to find one to say the least. Good places to start (or end) with a bunch of straight and gay guys.

[Rachel_B]

I have never been to a place that was actually labeled as a LGBT friendly place in male or female mode. I have been to places dressed appearing as female and was treated as I was presenting. The most "dressed" I have been while shopping is wearing a white cotton floral strapless dress w/white 3/4" shrug and 4-1/2" wedges. I went to a salon and a local mall and nothing bad happened. I do have a LBD that I would love to wear to any event that calls for one but there is usually nothing where I live.

[RachaelInLv]

"Dressed", as in wearing anything at all on the outside that might get you "busted". [Being underdressed - no matter to what extent - does not count here]

Also, FEmale jeans DO NOT count, unless they are covered in sequins, rivets or have hand sized or bigger, butterflies, rainbows, flowers etc., on the rear end or elsewhere.

How many of you have ever attended a LGBT/LGBT "friendly" place? Bar, restaurant, event etc.?

Why do I always feel like I am answering questions for a ollege Psych class or a survey taker knocking on my door when I see your posts?

[Wildaboutheels]

For those that do not understand the question...

TRUE or FALSE?

Many folks here in HUNDREDS of posts say their first excursions and/or all of their excursions are/were to LGBT "friendly" places. [Nothing at all wrong with that. Why would there be?] Makes perfect sense.

Now if you can answer true, that does not mean all CDers [however they are dressed] who go out into the RW, have been to "those" places.

IF you have been/go to "those places" you had to do some research to know WHICH ones were "friendly". Or you see signs or ads proclaiming such all the time. OR , maybe you hear people talking at work. Maybe you even entered one w/o knowing? And quickly saw or or heard something...

Forget about how you were dressed, if that confuses. It does not matter in the grand scheme of things.

I do not care WHY anyone went.

I just want to know who has actual EXPERIENCE in/at one even just one time.

I would particularly be interested in folks who have been many times. [for any reason]

I need opinions on something and you folks would be EXPERTS on it, at least compared to the general public. [me]

Also, I am unclear as to why some would take the time to respond to this post if you can't contribute anything? Seems like that would set a bad example for the newbies? Do we really need that? There are hundreds of Qs out there for people to post to.

[Princess Chantal]

Yes, I have enjoyed countless expeditions to LGBT* based places, to LGBT* based events, and to known exceptionally LGBT* friendly businesses in my various modes of crossdressing.

[Sometimes Steffi]

Yes. I've been to a couple of LGBT bars/restaurants. I've also been to numerous non-LGBT bars and restaurants, often with a group, and sometimes with a couple of friends. I've also been to numerous retail establishments (e.g., MAC, Ulta, Dress Barn, Charming Charlies, the whole mall, Nordstrom Rack, thrift stores, and numerous others, typically alone, but once or twice in a group.

[sara.rafaela]

I go out often. I generally do not dress unless I have plans to go out.

First place I went to was a transgender bar. I went because "everyone" goes there dressed and did not think anyone would even notice or care about me in particular. I found this true and developed some comfort level after some time. However, I gave up on this place because many of the ladies were pros there and the men were there to see them. People treated me with respect, but I found the interactions phony, and got bored.

Next I went to a well known gay club. I had visited it before. This club has good DJs and electronic music and draws a mixed crowd. From earlier visits I thought the staff and customers would tolerate anyone, whether a cross dresser, gay man with no shirt and silver shorts, or a boring guy in jeans. My visit dressed have found this to be true. After visiting many times the staff has gotten to know me and greet me warmly when I arrive. I have met all kinds of people there, from other girls, young women out for a party. Many times when I am alone, people will ask me to join their group.

Next I started going to other clubs, without previous visits. I look for a gay or alternative club. If they have a drag show night, then that is a good sign and I will probably go even if it is not that night. For alternative, I recently found a club that is into Goth/ Industrial Music/ BDSM. It is actually nice and tastefully done. As I suspected I was welcomed. I have not had a truly negative episode yet, some strange episodes and some occasional unwanted attention, but nothing bad or scary. I have done everything from drinks and dancing, to sitting at a bar and having a political discussion with a guy who did not seem to notice or care how I was dressed.

I usually will not go to straight clubs filled with 20 somethings, surburban bars like the chain restaurants, or neighborhood bars. I might be wrong, but I don't trust the reception I will receive there.

The last type of outing for me was broad daylight to stores and such. The reason for this is that I have gotten very confident in my look at night. I think at night I am passable at a distance, meaning that if you see me across the street or are not paying attention, I will pass. Of course if you are sitting talking to me I will not pass. During the day it is different. All the makeup needed to pull off the look does not look appropriate and I am not yet happy with my day time casual look. Still, it is a work in progress and I continue to go out. In these adventures I have not had a real negative experience yet. The worst was at one mall, a girl in a kiosk gave me some unwanted attention.

[Eryn]

Well, I've been "Ma'amed" in male mode so I suppose I've been dressed in enough sorta-femme stuff to get "busted."

I've been to LGBT-friendly places in both modes. Around here, many LGBT-friendly places also cater to the the mainstream so most everyone has patronized several of them whether they know it or not. In fact, it's rather difficult for an establishment to not be LGBT-friendly unless you're talking about a biker bar or something.

[aprilgirl]

[QUOTE=Wildaboutheels;3489511]"Dressed", as in wearing anything at all on the outside that might get you "busted". [Being underdressed - no matter to what extent - does not count here]

Also, FEmale jeans DO NOT count, unless they are covered in sequins, rivets or have hand sized or bigger, butterflies, rainbows, flowers etc., on the rear end or elsewhere.

I have a question. Where in the world are you shopping ?

[celeste26]

Actually I go to places like Walmart, the bank and my church, I rarely go to any "LGBT" friendly places. I just dont drink so there is little reason to go to bars of any sort. And I have yet to hook up with any groups that meet regularly.

AND I do it en femme so I must be bust(able).

AND I have yet to have any sort of bad experience either, except getting "sired".

[Joni Beauman]

I'm puzzled. I see no reference to shopping en femme. I thought many of us did that. Geez, I go out to eat at restaurants, always by myself, and shop at Kohl's, Pennys, and Macy's en femme several times over the years and never really had any problems. Especially after learning a thing or two. I once drove a thousand miles en femme, stopping along the way. Perhaps I have deceived myself, but nobody seems to notice or care. Goodness, now I'm nervous.

[AllieSF]

My first time out was to a small internet type restaurant, which I found out while talking to the owner also hosted regular "T" group meetings. That was not my place of choice but someone else's for my first night out as Allie. Later that evening we went to San Francisco's fairly well known Diva's, a TG bar/hangout where occasionally one can see a working sister or two. Since that first night I have only been back there once or twice. I did look for some safe places for a TG to be, but also made it a point to also go to real world main stream venues, from wine bars to restaurants o theater and plays. I still regularly go back to my "Cheers" bar where everyone knows my name. Not because it was one of my original safe places to be myself, but because I liked the place, the staff and the patrons and always have a good time there. If I was to guess about how much is LGBT friendly (as defined by those that specifically look for those types of places) I would guess that it is 10% or less officially LGBT friendly and 90%+ real world main stream places.

If there is something more specific you would like to know, ask more specific questions.

[Princess Chantal]

I'm puzzled. I see no reference to shopping en femme. I thought many of us did that. Geez, I go out to eat at restaurants, always by myself, and shop at Kohl's, Pennys, and Macy's en femme several times over the years and never really had any problems. Especially after learning a thing or two. I once drove a thousand miles en femme, stopping along the way. Perhaps I have deceived myself, but nobody seems to notice or care. Goodness, now I'm nervous.
Perhaps some people are curious about LGBT based establishments and would like information before deciding to check it out. I am sure many people are familiar with big box stores and don't need much info when attending them

[KaceyR]

While my fem jeans may not be sequined... I do have this neat zebra belt and other sparkly bet I wear with it... Even at times when not officially 'dressing'...

That said I have been out to a LGBT bar when truly dressed.. Actually almost think I was a bit over dressed as I was In A spring dress and a majority were jean-ing it up. Or doing the opposite with some extreme micro-shorts :)
But was fun. It wasn't local though..and a with a group. I'd like to get out more to local ones but just never feel right just going alone. Also would like to have a leather skirt and better top for a next bar outing..

[Marcelle]

For those that do not understand the question... Also, I am unclear as to why some would take the time to respond to this post if you can't contribute anything? Seems like that would set a bad example for the newbies? Do we really need that? There are hundreds of Qs out there for people to post to.

WAH as one of the folks who did not "contribute anything" perhaps if you concentrate on expressing the questions clearly vice a lot of hyperbole leading up to it, I would not have responded. Keep it simple and you will get the audience you are looking for. For example:

Hi all. I am curious how many of you have gone out "en femme" to local LGBT friendly venues? If so, how did you know they were LGBT friendly venues? or words to that effect.

Hugs

Isha

[Kate Simmons]

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it must be a duck.:battingeyelashes::)

[Zylia]

For example:

Hi all. I am curious how many of you have gone out "en femme" to local LGBT friendly venues? If so, how did you know they were LGBT friendly venues? or words to that effect.

Basically this. As I said in my reply, I never visited a LGBT friendly venue (whatever that means, does that only exclude places with "no fags allowed" signs or what?) en femme, but that wasn't your question.

As for how I know they're "LGBT friendly" specifically: usually it's the frigging rainbow flag on the facade :D

[Princess Chantal]

Hmmm I haven't seen a LGBT friendly church flying the Rainbow on their facade.... Seen the church groups walk in the Pride Parade with the different flags though.

[Beverley Sims]

Not being a Bar person and I don't consider Las Vegas as much of a challenge either.

Great place to dress tho and I do get around dressed whilst on holidays...
What is the question you are asking?
If it's the last line....

No.

[Zylia]

Hmmm I haven't seen a LGBT friendly church flying the Rainbow on their facade.... Seen the church groups walk in the Pride Parade with the different flags though.
And I actually have! Funny how anecdotes work ;) I didn't really say that all LGBT friendly venues have (or should have) a rainbow flag on their facade though.

[I Am Paula]

All of the above. I'm not sure if I get 'busted', I assume I do, but everyone treats me with the respect due a lady, so I'm not sure what they are thinking. I've been going to LBGT friendly places like Wal Mart, Disney World, the bank, and the dry cleaners, and McDonalds all my life. I also work part time at a gay bar.
I hope that answers, or confuses, all your questions.

[ClaireCole]

Never, don't even know about any near me aside from gay clubs

[Debra Russell]

But still whats the point?:idontknow::brolleyes:....................De bra

[secretlyhailey]

I never have. Kind of wanted to for a long time, but have never met anyone else who dresses, if I did I'd love to go out dancing with them at a club dressed :p

[PaulaQ]

FYI Dallas has a convenient GLBT chamber of commerce, so the friendly businesses have a sticker right on their window, so that you can either feel safe in your transactions with those merchants, or simply walk by in a disgusted huff if that is your preference!

The first place I ever went dressed was the Equality Center in Tulsa Oklahoma, an LGBT support organization. My presentation sucked.
On my second visit, the following week, my presentation was much better, and I went to the Irish Pub I mentioned before after the meeting.
I hope that answers the question more constructively - sorry I really didn't understand the question before.

Oh, my signature contains my opinion about "safety."

[carhill2mn]

Ever attended a "LGBT friendly place" - yes but, I usually go anywhere that I want to.

[JazT95]

I've only ever been out fully dressed a few times. And even then it was under the cover of darkness and around a quiet area of town. Now, I'd love to visit some LGBT places, but I kinda live in a tiny town in the middle of nowhere, so no such places exist for a good 20 miles. Maybe if I go to Birmingham next year, it's something I'd get into. :) x

[Lexi_83]

"Dressed", as in wearing anything at all on the outside that might get you "busted". [Being underdressed - no matter to what extent - does not count here]

Also, FEmale jeans DO NOT count, unless they are covered in sequins, rivets or have hand sized or bigger, butterflies, rainbows, flowers etc., on the rear end or elsewhere.

How many of you have ever attended a LGBT/LGBT "friendly" place? Bar, restaurant, event etc.?I have. Zero chance of passing, everyone in the neighborhood is presumed to be CD.

"King nights" are pretty fun, some "Goth nights" are pretty accepting.

[Eryn]

Zero chance of passing, everyone in the neighborhood is presumed to be CD.

That's my difficulty with LGBT venues. They are fun, but I certainly do get examined closely.

[Nikki A.]

As I've found out so far, if you're a paying customer most if not all places are LGBT friendly as long as you are dressed respectably.

[Wildaboutheels]

Thanks to everyone who posted here. It appears as though many LGBT "friendly" places may not actually advertise anywhere except possibly word of mouth? Could that be extrapolated to... many of these places could easily have a large percentage of "normal" folks also eating/mingling/drinking/yakking etc. on any given night?

I will explain the reason why I'm curious to know in an upcoming post.

[Dianne S]

When I go out, I don't specifically go to LGBT-friendly places. I've been to neighbourhood coffee shops, restaurants and malls. I probably get read, but no-one has stared and I've never had a negative reaction.

[natcrys]

My first time out in public was to a T-support group meet-up social event thingie.. so I guess it's quite obvious that that could be qualified as an LGBTQ* friendly place. :p

Did not have to do much research for that apart from clicking on the website to find the address. :)

[Alice Torn]

Bars are not my thing, really. I am not comfortable in them. Might go once someday. I would rather walk a mall, go to Walmart, a thrift store, Symphony.

[Stephanie Julianna]

I've attended CD bars, clubs, banquets, First Event in Boston and PTown events over the last 35 years. I have also shopped and dined en femme. In all that time I only wore ladies jeans once. After all, what's the fun in that? There is definitely a feeling of security when you go to a place where it does not matter if you are read or not. However, it's great when you go in straight public and can roam en femme without being read. That's not important to eveyone but I really enjoy it. Plus, that's where all the good shopping is.

[Alice B]

Many, many times. Not a big deal.

[LisaDee]

I have been to couple restaurants without incident. I went to a gay bar and the had a drag show going on, it was a lot of fun!

[RayanneA]

I've only ever been out fully dressed a few times. And even then it was under the cover of darkness and around a quiet area of town. Now, I'd love to visit some LGBT places, but I kinda live in a tiny town in the middle of nowhere, so no such places exist for a good 20 miles. Maybe if I go to Birmingham next year, it's something I'd get into. :) xDo I ever know what you are saying. I actually was out ONCE during the day. Went to a get-together of cross dressers at a private home. But that was when I lived in a more urban area and in California instead of Oregon. And I sure don't know of any such places around here. Not even within 100 miles. Maybe I'll take a trip to the Portland area and see what I can find up there.

[JanetM.]

Living in central Texas, almost all the girls wear jeans around here and not a whole lot of bling. My goal is always to blend in and not bring attention to me but rather just be out there alone and enjoying the evening as Janet. My jeans are stretch jeans and my top is always conservative. Oh, and I wear fake glasses to draw attention away from other parts.

[BillieAnneJean]

The LGBT places do not have a sign that says "LGBT friendly" but some have an item such as a flag or a logo with the rainbow colors.

I go OUT enfemme a lot. To the mall, restaurants, big box stores, resale stores, Shoe Carnival, the local grocery/super store (Meijer, like a Walmart but much nicer, and often cheaper). So I go everywhere that the general public frequents.

There are a few LGBT friendly places in Grand Rapids, MI. But they are also frequented by what might be heterosexual people too. You see these places accept everyone, judge no one, and the staff are friendly and accommodating. Well really most everywhere in Grand Rapids the staff are friendly and accommodating. Rumors Nightclub for loud music and dancing, The Apartment Lounge for quiet music and talk. I have frequently been to both.

I guess that answers your question.

Unrelated to your question:
So I really don't care what the place's focus happens to be. If the patrons are nice, the place is clean, the bartenders and staff are friendly and accommodating, it is a place I will go. If there just happens to be a couple of guys dancing together, so what.

So yes I do go to the local LGBT friendly places, and also to the places that are frequented by everyone. But hey, the LGBT places are frequented by everyone too. I guess I choose to enjoy the clientele regardless of their sexual orientation.

[Julia B]

Been out to events and general shopping. Both are fun.

[CrossJess]

Not quite sure what your asking sweety, but No never been to a LGBT never.... Lol yea right , yea i been to a few in my time and as a guy that is always in girls clothes i always walked into LGBT friendy and gay bars looking very very girly but gay bars i always looked super girly like wearing very tight denim short shorts, over knee socks and my fave tinkerbell tshirt, my long hair tied up looking slighly messy and a load of pink bangles on my wrists oh and always wore my bright pink suede 5" wedge shoes lol i always attracted attention and i was never short of free drinks lol good days, the guys thought i looked cute and unique, i guess there is something about a gay guy dressed as a girly girl always had good nights out.

Havent been to a gay bar for a while now as i have no reason too i rather have cosy nights in with my bf or going out some where nice, gay bars are cool but you cant go to them with out being pulled lol, made a lot of good friends in them though

Lol not all bars we walked in were quite so excepting lol i been chucked out and punched and called names, but thats fair play not everyone likes it

[Taylor186]

"I've been to LGBT-friendly places in both modes."

Me too. Never a problem.

[AmyGaleRT]

I go out to both LGBT-friendly places and "ordinary" places (supermarkets, drugstores, Walmart). I don't generally see any problems...maybe one or two times I thought someone might be laughing, but I couldn't be sure, and, if they are, what of it? Certainly no one's actually confronted me or anything, and I get treated like any other female customer. Even people begging for money in parking lots properly gender me ("Excuse me, Miss, do you have any change?").

Of course, my favorite venue is the Black Crown, which is LGBT-friendly but doesn't exclusively cater to that clientele. As Julie found out when I took her there, even the cisgender heterosexual customers there are likely to treat us as what we present as. The staff, of course, is invariably nice to us and treats us as ladies.

- Amy

[amyjacks2014]

^.^

I have not yet. The plan is to attend SPECTRUM meetings
once school starts again at the University of Wyoming, These
meetings are open to the community.


Amy M. Jackson

[Saikotsu]

I recently went to a restaurant as my very first true foray. I don't know if it was a specifically an LGBT friendly place, but I was well received.

[Majella St Gerard]

Just last night I was a "regular bar" wearing a black dress and sang karaoke, most people don't give a...hoot.

[2B Natasha]

Do YOU actually READ the stuff YOU'RE asking us about our excursions into the RW?

SORRY, but I seriously doubt it!

I agree completely. They ask a lot of questions. Mosh poll type and rarely if ever get back and say anything. I personal think they are do research for some college course.

[Katey888]

I will explain the reason why I'm curious to know in an upcoming post.

:waiting:

And how long should we expect to wait for the Oracle to give forth....? Hmmmmm.....?

Or have I missed the grand denouement somewhere else amongst these hallowed fora....?

:)

Katey x

[NicoleScott]

I think I could provide a better answer if I knew what you are looking for, and why. But here goes anyway:
After years of dressing in private, I felt the tug to go out. So I did, and then felt to tug to go IN. I went into a few shops, but I wanted to go to a bar or club. The problem was that I'm an over-the-top dresser, and my preferred look (Obvious Transvestite) doesn't pass. My choices were to tone it down to go out, which I found unfulfilling, or glam it up and stay home, which didn't satisfy my urge to have a social experience, not just a shopping experience. While in Daytona Beach on vacation (alone), I found a tg-friendly club online which had drag queen/drag king nights. I went there in the afternoon to check it out and asked the bartender if it was OK to come back en femme. Yes. So I did. I didn't mind being seen as a crossdresser, so I glammed myself up in my highest heels, glittery jewelery, heavy makeup, monster eyelashes, and deep red lipstick and nails. Had some good chats, got hit on once (politely declined), and had no problems. Went back three more times the next year. For sure, very near the top highlight of my CDing life. When I went back for the third year, the club had closed. Good while it lasted.

[Stephanie47]

In my answer I will not count the times I've gone out dressed at Halloween. Halloween is a blank check to do whatever one's heart desires.

I do not own one pair of jeans, pants, capris, whatever you may call attire that is not a dress. I only possess and wear dresses. The times I have gone out dressed I've worn a pretty dress, hosiery, heels, wig and makeup. Underneath I always wear a bra, slip, panty and a garter girdle to make sure my thigh high stockings do not fall down. When the weather is cool or rainy I wear a light jacket or borrow my wife's raincoat. As to the footwear, I've ditched the high heels for walks in the evening. I usually wear a flat heel (1"-1 1/2"). I find a flat heel is more comfortable than walking on concrete sidewalks.

I have not frequented an establishment that is friendly to LGBT's. I would love to attend the annual event that occurs in Port Angeles, WA every year, Esprit Gala. . I feel that would be less intimating and I would not have to worry about unwanted advances. I have gone into stores en femme on Halloween and enjoyed the experience.

[NavyM2F_WAM]

I have never been to an LGBT-friendly establishment. I don't go to bars. I'm by myself, so I can't really drink, because I have to drive back. NO DRUNK DRIVING!

Majella, that must have taken lots of courage to go out like that! I couldn't do that, unless I was en femme, of course.

[BLUE ORCHID]

Hi WAH, I will wear pantyhose without socks, so far no one has ever said anything.

[Carmen de Rafael]

I enjoy walking in pantyhose and heels so I go to places where I walk a lot. That leads me to the shopping mall or the gay district downtown.

During these excursions, I've been outed a few times. Mostly by men snickering at me or giving that WTF look. After awhile, I just didn't care what they thought and keep on walking....walking isn't the word....I keep on sashaying in my heels.

[Lexi_83]

I go into public places nearly every time I dress. I make sure that I'm wearing clothing that the other women there have on. And that's my goal: blend in well enough to be one of the girls. I've never gone to a club or a bar dressed, so I've never tried to dress myself to attract anyone.It's a gazillion times easier to pass that way as most people are polite.

Near a GBLT-friendly club it's just about impossible to pass. I know gg's who have been "read" because everyone assumes you are in a new wrapper.

[laurie01]

I have been to LGBT places dozens of times and I have also been out shopping in malls and many department stores. Obviously I get read when I talk. I do get outed easier when I wear a dress or a skirt. I get outed in a good way from many GGs and they tell me they love an outfit than I'm wearing. I do get uncomfortable in places where there's a lot of men and I tend to stay away from those places when I go out dressed.

The best way to go out in public dressed like the mall or any clothing store is to look as attractive as possible, but conservative not ****ty and when you get outed it will be in a good way. I have noticed that most GGs admire CDs.

[Jessy Jamz]

Thanks to everyone who posted here. It appears as though many LGBT "friendly" places may not actually advertise anywhere except possibly word of mouth? Could that be extrapolated to... many of these places could easily have a large percentage of "normal" folks also eating/mingling/drinking/yakking etc. on any given night?

I will explain the reason why I'm curious to know in an upcoming post.

Most bars don't really advertise...Just go on yelp and type in "gay bars". That should do the trick for anyone unfamiliar with the area their in. I think whether or not there is a large straight crowd just depends on the night and the location. I live in Madison, WI, which is a big college town, so the bars nearer to campus are going to have more straight people, especially straight women. Other locations in less hip parts of town not so much.

[Paulette]

I have been to both straight clubs and Gay clubs. When I am dressed the front door leads to the outside world where all of the fun is. I do not worry about where I am going as long as I think about my safety. I will not go to a biker bar or some other rough spots but then no lady would either. The world is full of things to do and I have tried to experience them all.

[Lexi_83]

Most bars don't really advertise...Just go on yelp and type in "gay bars". That should do the trick for anyone unfamiliar with the area their in. I think whether or not there is a large straight crowd just depends on the night and the location. //And some clubs have "theme" nights, Drag King nights, etc.

Most Goths seem pretty TG friendly, especially if you dress in all black and wear black lipstick. It's fun!