What if we were all NUDIST

[kendra_gurl]

A lot has been said as to why we dress in feminine clothing, all the reasons from they feel better to how they allow one to express ones true gender or they are just a fetish. We all have different reasons we my never know so this is not to debate those differences. This just got me to thinking about myself when I am naked. I do look like the typical male after all while nude.

I've never been a nudist or been around nudist so this is just for something to think about .

Imagine living in a place where no one wore clothing,could you feel normal looking like every other male? No way to hide your junk :o or have a need to cover non existent breast. How could you express your feminine side? Would you have the need or desire too?

[Nadine Spirit]

I've been to nudist places. It has been quite enjoyable. Just another side to me. It was funny when one of the operators of the resort I was at looked down and saw my painted toe nails and she kind of jumped/laughed. She apologized pretty quickly but apparently my painted toenails startled her. It was quite funny actually. So yeah there are ways to express yourself and not look like every other male. Actually with my toenails and fingernails painted and my body hair shaved it wasn't all that difficult to look quite a bit different than every other male. Oh and also the fact that most of the folks there were in their mid 60s and quite overweight. And at the time I was in my 20s and 30s and not a bit overweight.

[Adriana Moretti]

If this was the case I would be lathered in baby oil....but honestly I LOVE nude sunbathing i go with usually a wig with a scarf on my head and big old jackie O sunglasses

[RADER]

Now if you lived in Illinois this winter, you would have been a frozen Popsicle.
Rader

[KaceyR]

I'd wondered on this... And like mentioned you could still do up nails.. (Both hands and feet really)
And thought maybe still decorate with a bracelet/anklet/necklace. (Although not if you didn't want tan lines...:)
Might be a little odd..but doable. Wig and makeup use would be another thing to think on if out in hot sun...
It is a slightly conflicting lifestyle though..

[kendra_gurl]

Nadine I bet you turned a few heads even if they couldn't see your painted nails.

Sure painted nails wigs and makeup are things one could wear but unless one is "out" would you dare wear them. Do you think the need to wear these things would still be there if you could not hide your naked male body?

[Nadine Spirit]

Thanks Kendra.

[JennyLynn]

I would prefer to not be nudist, but if I were, I am not ashamed of my body. Would still prefer to put on the forms with some sexy lingerie! Nothing to be ashamed of being naked as a man, but I feel sexier as a woman.

[Kate Simmons]

While we are who we are inside and have our feelings, from an external perspective, the point would be kind of moot I think. After all without the right original equipment the illusion would kind of fade after a time, dontcha think?:battingeyelashes::)

[Alice Torn]

i WOULD NOT EVEN CONSIDER IT.

[sanderlay]

I still think I would have the need, but I don't know for sure. With my long hair, earrings and necklace, and of course most of my body hairless, I would most certainly have some feminine accents. I don't currently paint my nails but I might at least gloss them, if I were a nudist, to reinforce my feminine side.

From what I understand of nudists one reason is to remove pretense. In other words a male power suit or the little black dress can no longer make you look better or worse than another person. Quite simply you are what you are for all to see. So my jewelry might be seen as a pretense to some purists.

[Jocelyn Quivers]

Intriguing, sounds like a potential Star Trek TNG (Transgender) episode. Although most options are limited due to lack of clothing, at the minimum shaving legs, pits, face, and everything else in between is a must. I guess letting my hair grow long in feminine manner, or going natural non straightened hair look could be an option. Only other thing, diet and exercise is a must, being that Spanx, corsets, shapewear would be non existent due to the nudity issue.

[5150 Girl]

Yea, you can kinda tuck it, may have to use book binder's, or packing tape. I suppose forms can be glues/taped on

[devida]

I guess the question you could ask yourself is do you feel like a typical male when you see yourself in the mirror naked? I don't but I don't think that my genitals determine my gender. If you do why then you are just like the majority of human beings who associate their genitals with their gender. I don't do that so I think that's weird and a bit creepy. I do understand that most people think I am strange but when I look in the mirror naked I see me, neither male nor female, but a bit more femme than macho. I can't live my life on the basis of what other people think I am and I don't have the time to carefully explain to them what I know I am. I like the cues of bras, panties, dresses, and make up I use to reinforce my self identification as transgender but I am still transgender nude.

[BLUE ORCHID]

Hi Kendra, It would be very interesting to be a male nudist with glued on breast forms.

[Beverley Sims]

I would have to transition.

No other way for me.

[Deanna11]

This is a topic very near and dear to my heart as one of my other passions in life is nudism. I have belonged to an organized nudist club for 14 years so I guess that makes me a nudist! Two conflicting lifestyles for sure! I usually shave my legs in the winter and have painted toes. Unfortunatly I go back to my hairy self in the summer. I do love the lifestyle, just like cross dressing it is a tremendous way to relax and forget about the stresses in life. I still feel the same, have the same feminine desires and I know in due time I will address them,but in the summer with a full body tan! I am considering keeping my legs shaved as I love the smooth feel and feminine look. Body acceptance is part of being a nudist, big or small, hairy or smooth, we are all there to enjoy the freedom and pleasure of social nudity!

[trisha kobichenko]

Hmm, great question. Aside from the obvious...genital differences...what distinguishes male from female? Hair length? Facial and body hair? Make up? How you walk? Sit? Talk? Seems like there is a whole range of bodily presentation decisions that can affect how you can project your real self to the world.
Hugs,
Trish

[noeleena]

Hi,

easy for me so long as every one is female id have no issue's at all because im female and would fit in as a normal looking female,

if males were around id be gone plan and simple .apart from i dont like males..... looking ....sorry just not me.

Jos and our 3 children spent a night at a nudist camp we of cause did not know till we saw a woman wearing only high heeled red stileto shoe's and the guy wore a scottish hat

And we had to step over a few laying on the ground no idear why to get to the toilets and the Boss man was starkers our three had a good laugh ,

in the morning we set off on our way in our bus 27 ft bedford 1969

it was Ruby Bay in the Nelson area called Rabbit isl , Marlborough sounds top of our south isl .this was about 1988 or so

...noeleena...

[Babbs]

Kendra I think I get what your saying. there is no way to hide you are a male as a nudist, so would you still present as a female while everyone knows your male as opposed to know if you are passable when dressed, you present as a female while people think your a female. When dressed you hide your true gender...If that's it I don't think it matters because I believe no matter how well a man presents as a woman, he has some sort of "tell" that he's a man, so yes if the opportunity were there I would still find time to "femme" up occasionally.

[Marcelle]

Hi Kendra . . . fun thread :)

Okay, so I am living in a society where people do not wear clothes and still wish to present female. First issue . . . dude body is going to get noticed immediately and I will be read. Wait a minute . . . I get read now whenever I go out dressed "en femme" so it would not be much different. Albeit, the junk, chest muscle vice breasts, wide shoulders and larger biceps will get me read a lot quicker. However, I would still get read in either case. :o

Could I still express myself as Isha while being nude. I think so. I am assuming there would still be subtle differences in the way naked men and women present in this society. As such I would emulate those differences as much as I can. For example wig (still an option), no body hair, laser hair removal of beard, make-up, jewelry, some sort of purse (I am guessing you would have to carry your ID and money somewhere :battingeyelashes:). Of course, walk, mannerisms and voice and just plain old self confidence.

Will people look at me and say now there is a gorgeous woman? Not on your life. But then again that doesn't happen now. The only difference will be clothing or lack thereof. :)

Hugs

Isha

[Katey888]

If this is imaginary I'll apply the biggest fantasy I can here...

I'd just never do tattoos in real life - but think of the options here... let's say henna body painting...

You could do body shaping patterns to accentuate and enhance a femme curvy image one week, flip to a male inverted triangle the next... Yep - If life was totally nudy, I'd be arting up my bod to the max! :)

That actually seems cool... :cool:

Katey x

[Teresa]

Kendra, I wouldn't be ashamed of my body don't carry any extra fat but I can't see the point. I watched a holiday program a while ago featuring specialty holidays including nudism, they showed various activities the one that really got me was a fairly ample couple supermarket shopping, the sight of them leaning over the meat counter, it didn't put me off meat but you can keep nudism ! I think it would be a manly run to the exit !

[kimdl93]

I guess the practical study would be of cultures where clothing is negligible. Like Amazonian tribes. among these societies, there are methods of adornment (not enough to be considered clothing) that are decidedly male or female.

It's just human nature.

[Kate Simmons]

This thread seems to have brought out the nudists, potential nudists and the closet nudists. I wondering if all would really do it, given the chance, however.I still feel that mentioning nudity and CDing in the same breath is pointless and unless we would wear blendable breasts, super tuck or wear a v string when nude I fail to see the point of trying to "pass". I mean if you can do it don't stop there, may as well pose for Playboy if you look that good nude. Not that I have that bad of a body for an old guy but it would be obvious I was a male if I decided to become a practicing nudist.:battingeyelashes:

[Cheryl T]

Certainly not something I would like. I'm not into being naked with a group of naked people. I'd have to borrow some of Eve's leaves for strategic placement.

[sometimes_miss]

What if we were all NUDIST
Simple Then gender identification would be done more with behavior.....and perhaps, make up, hair styling.

[LilSissyStevie]

My gender variance is mostly played out in my mind. It's fun to dress up but not essential. Ultimately, I don't care how I look or what junk I have. This world is not my home.:daydreaming:

[AngelaKelly<3]

That's a good question...

Am I allowed make up and a wig?

Am I allowed other things to make me look like a female naked (breast forms etc)? *jiggle jiggle*

:)

[ShelbyDawn]

I have browsed this thread a few times and find it interesting that it illustrates the differences in the way many of us look at our crossdressing. Several have commented that their dressing would become mute since there would be no possibility of passing while others have indicated they would find ways to express their femininity in spite of the lack of clothing. What a wonderfully diverse group we are. :)
My reality is that in spite of my best efforts, wig, forms, makeup, etc., I really do not have much chance of passing anyway and to be honest that is not why I dress. Personally, I fall into the second camp and would keep my wig, paint my nails, continue to shave my legs and body, opt for allowable jewelry, etc.

[Alexand]

I have been on nudist beaches dozens of times. There's always room for expressing one's feminine side.

First of all I am shaved.

I go there wearing a thong and keep it on for some time in order to get a thong tanline, but this is not what you are asking. In your all-nudist society I would not wear anything.

BASICALLY what I do is lie down in a feminine/sexy way. Anyone would guess I am gay (I don't think about men at all, I don't watch gay porn) but what excites me, is what I look like. I want everybody to see me while I am putting oil on my body while sitting in a sexy woman pose, or putting down my towel and remaining in a doggy-style position for some seconds. It's all about me and how my body looks. What I find interesting, is that I don't want to do it in front of men. It's women that I want to bee looked at by.

[wilt575]

Hi Kendra, It would be very interesting to be a male nudist with glued on breast forms.

You could always get implants, no glue required. Also remember total body shave and a good tape tuck.

[Alice B]

I've been to several nudist places, including a beach here in San Diego. No big deal at all. The only thing different for me is that I'm completely shaved, which only adds to the experience

[Melissa_59]

Imagine living in a place where no one wore clothing,could you feel normal looking like every other male? No way to hide your junk :o or have a need to cover non existent breast. How could you express your feminine side? Would you have the need or desire too?

There's still makeup and mannerisms, unless we're striking makeup out as well. :) Mannerisms would be left, and I think there would be people who would still "present" feminine mannerisms if clothing was gone. Absolute conjecture and WAG though, I have no data to back up this statement.

~Mel

[antonyio]

real good question,i surpose if you can wear the wig ,paint your nails and somehow tuck thats not so noticable and act the femmine way it would be ok,saying that i have been to a couple now as a male and find no-one takes notice of whats down below so if they are all the same it wouldnt be a problem

[Barbara Dugan]

Actually crossdresing nude is a personal favorite, to complement the look there still the need for a smooth body, nice wig, makeup, nail polish and sometimes nice shoes too...clothes don't really do much for me when I can have all of the above

[sara lahna]

i was just thinking of this the other day