Another TG sigting in my town.

[Tracii G]

I was at a quickie gas station/food mart yesterday and when getting in line to pay for my drink I see a MtF working the register.
Long hair pulled back, make up that was subtle. Just doing her job.
The customers didn't give any odd looks or make comments which is pretty normal around here.
I was in 50/50 mode as usual girls jeans,top and had rolled my hair that morning so it was still pretty wavy.A touch of mascara.
When it was my turn to pay she gave me a close look up and down and gave me a thumbs up gesture which I thought was cool.
I smiled,payed for my stuff and she said thank you ma'am have a nice day and come back.I said thanks I'll be sure to stop back by.
I love little things like this to happen. :)

[Jolene Robertson]

Hi Tracii,

Too cool, had to make her day too.

Hugs
Jolene

[Marcelle]

Hey Tracii . . . very nice story of solidarity.

Hugs

Isha

[Nadya]

Sounds like a great experience. Wish I'd run into others where I live.

[Pauline Wu]

What a great experience!!! Those are the kind of stories that give me inspiration!!

[Tina G]

Very nice story, glad to hear things like this happening.

Tina

[Alice Torn]

When i lived in Tacoma Wa five years back there was one there, also working at a gas station. The long, perfect painted nails were a give away. I just treated that person, the same as any other. Saw one working across the street a few weeks ago, on a work crew, tearing down a temporary flower nursery structure.

[Cheryl Ann Owens]

What a wonderful experience! It would be nice to have that happen a LOT more often. I was in a mall camera shop back in the '80's and knew the sales gal was MtF. She didn't seem too happy though. (??) But I treated her with all due respect as a lady. I wish we had a secret sign of recognition but I'm afraid the phobics would find out about it.

Cheryl

[NavyM2F_WAM]

It would be great to "run into" other M2Fs around here. This forum is nice and all, but sometimes, an in-person conversation would be really great. Other than my soon-to-be ex-wife, my friend, and some other online people, I have no one to talk to about my CD/TS "issues".

[Tracii G]

I don't normally stop in there but I will make a point to go back now.

[BillieJoEllen]

At our fourth of July parade there was a section of 'superheroes' that marched by. It consisted of a lot of the DC comic superheroes. One in particular was 'Wonder Woman'. My wife made the comment, "What woman in her right mind would wear a costume like that out in public?" Well guess what, it was really a guy. He couldn't hide his/her lack of skills in dressing like that. But then again I noticed her makeup and finger nails and corsetry were very well done so I was thinking that was really a man.

[Roxie]

Loving it, make sure you go back never know maybe you can make a friend.

[STACY B]

Better stop back by ,,, Were in short supply ,,lol,,, Gotta make all the friends you can !!

[Jaylyn]

That's cool the way each other can spot the other. My small town if I saw another dresser I'd just have to act normal but might just give them the thumbs up.....

[vikki2020]

Even better----she found a job, as a woman!

[Tracii G]

Deff will stop back by StaceyB maybe even in 100% girl mode.
You are right Vikki I have to give her props for that.

[BLUE ORCHID]

Hi Tracii, If you get to know her be sure to introduce her to our forum if she's not already on it.

[Desirae]

I have yet to ever see a CD "out in the wild" as it were. Or, a TS for that matter. At least I haven't noticed any. Maybe I'm not that observant.

Also, with NO disrespect or disparagement towards the OP inferred or intended, is it just me, or is talking about "spotting a TG" in the same way as an eccentric, biology professor in the Amazon who has just spotted the elusive, striped, cackling, nocturnal, flying purple people eater, or whatever, just a little bizarre? It's probably just me.

[Alice Torn]

Navy, I understand what you say about no one to be with in person. If i were down there, i would be willing to meet. Maybe not be spuper close friends, but a platonic. Where i live, i don't have one real friend, TG, or non TG. It is very hard to make friends in today's society.

[Tracii G]

Desirae its kind of an ongoing subject that comes up every now and then and I was just remarking about seeing another in my city.
My city is pretty laid back and there are quite a few transgender folks here myself included.
Not that seeing one is big news or anything I was just mentioning it.
There are threads about things like what to say if you meet another CD'r or TG person what do you do? Thats all I didn't mean to upset your apple cart.

[Rachel137]

Sweet little story. I would go back!

[Desirae]

Desirae its kind of an ongoing subject that comes up every now and then and I was just remarking about seeing another in my city.
My city is pretty laid back and there are quite a few transgender folks here myself included.
Not that seeing one is big news or anything I was just mentioning it.
There are threads about things like what to say if you meet another CD'r or TG person what do you do? Thats all I didn't mean to upset your apple cart.

Hi Tracii. I understand what you said. Like I said in my post, I meant no ill-will towards you or what you wrote. I have seen other posts in the past that discuss "spotting a CD". I just always thought it bizarre, for lack of a better word, to discuss something like this in this way. It's just "strange", again for lack of a better word, to hear it described as some kind of "event". Actually, I was hoping that by bringing this up, that it would spur another discussion of maybe why it is so big of a deal to any of us when this happens, while going "stealthy" and "blending" is what, dare I say most, CDs actually try and achieve amongst the general population. BTW, I don't have a better way or better terminology to use for describing seeing another CD or TS in public.

[traci_k]

Nice Story - Definitely have to go back.

Hugs

[Katey888]

Another nice experience for you Tracii... a good outlet for you to patronise regularly..? :)

I admit the title can seem to put us in the same category as rare butterflies, but perhaps we are?

I still only have seen a couple of very obvious folk - but then you wouldn't notice the subtle, blending types anyway unless having a direct interaction like Tracii...

Katey x

[Beverley Sims]

Sounds like a new friendship may be in the offing.
Good luck.

[kimdl93]

That was great!

[Aly Cat]

At my local Outback restaurant, there is a very sweet girl who has transitioned. She has long curly hair and is actually pretty quiet. I noticed her one night when visiting another server who is a good friend of mine. She said she is very sweet but also extremely quiet. Apparently she has been subjected to a lot prejudice and had many bad experiences so she mainly keeps to herself now. Is very sad how this world treats those who are different, but I am happy to know there are others like me close by.

[arbon]

Being "sighted" mostly sucks for a woman like that because it reminds her how people really see her as not really a woman, and that she is someone who needs to be pointed out and talked about. At least thats the way it makes me feel when I am the sighted and talked about.

[Danielle Gee]

I once spent 10 or 15 minutes talking to a cross dresser working in the small appliance dept. of a local Sears store. I'd like to be able to say that due to my 50+ years of experience that I spotted her immediately. But no, I merely left Sears with a vague feeling that something wasn't right..... Then approx. a year later . someone said to me " have you ever saw the cross dresser that works at Sears?... boy did I feel stupid

Danielle

[Tracii G]

OK arbon I'm sorry I mentioned it at all.
I'll sit in the corner and be quiet.

[arbon]

Hi Tracii :)

I will be nice, I promise! I want to talk more about it though.

It gets a little tricky sometimes because both crossdressers and transsexuals could be considered TG.

In this case your seeing her at her job, so most likely not a crossdresser. But there is an assumption here that she is "one of us", a crossdresser, and there is some sort "solidarity" (this is what I get irritated at). Its seen in most of the replies to your topic.

But is that right?

And consider AlyCats response to your topic - she is referring about another woman that her coworkers are obviously talking about and pointing out to people (they did to alycat). Do people consider her a woman?

Or Danielle's example of the crossdresser working in the sears store - was the person really a crossdresser?


So my question are how do you and others here really see women like the one you saw at work? What do you think she is? Do you think she is a woman, or a crossdresser, or something else? What makes her like you and other crossdressers?

[Aly Cat]

Well, I must say that the reason she brought the girl up in the first place is because I had just moved into the area and she was helping me network with support groups and others like myself. She is friends with the girl and one of the few people the girl is open with so it was more about introductions. My friend told me a little bit about her only so that we had more of an understanding about each other. She had told the girl about me as well. (With my permission of course.) My friend is a very sweet girl and she does nothing to offend anyone. She is very careful about asking if it is Ok to talk to others about different topics.
That aside, I do think it's sad what this girl has gone through. I have been subjected to a very similar ridicule so I can certainly understand why she is so reserved. I remain an open book however. My belief is... If you close yourself off, no one will know who you truly are. And that my friends is a tragedy. We are all beautiful and have so much to offer this world. Living in hiding is no life to live. We have to take risks. Does that sometimes result in ridicule? Sometimes, but when we choose our friends wisely, we can enjoy life to it's fullest.

[arbon]

Aly - it will be interesting to see how you feel after transition, if you like being an open book still. And what will that mean really? That it is okay if people see you as a man, a crossdresser, a transgender person, someone in between?

or are you just going to want to live your life as the woman you are?

Where I live its a low population area and I transitioned in place. So there is no secret about me ----- being reminded how people really see me is a frequent occurrence, and it can hurt. And I am not even talking about the ridicule and harrasment crap, thats lot easier to deal with. I am just talking about the little stuff that happens all that time, thats always feels like a challenge to your identity as a woman. Its not so easy

[CD_blue]

Tracii said “she gave me a close look up and down and gave me a thumbs up gesture which I thought was cool.”

The one that was sighted was Tracii not the person in question. The clerk actually gave a thumbs up and was the one showing the solidarity.

Personally I am 6’6 and 275 pounds. No amount of make up/surgery/money would ever get me to the point to where I could pass. With that said I pretty much do this whole cross dressing, transgendered, whatever one wants to call it 24/7 now.

I’ve spotted others like myself (Somewhere on that spectrum) and it’s good to know that I am not alone. That there are others like me. I like running into people LIKE me. They see me and give me the thumbs up… Hell yeah that would make me pretty happy.

Solidarity is a great thing and wish we had more of it.

[Aly Cat]

I understand. I don't think I'll ever forget where I came from, but I can see your point completely. When people ask questions, I can guage if they are asking out of simple curiosity vs being a smart @$$. If someone does ask in a way I don't see fitting, I politely let them know that it's none of their business and leave it at that. I do think it's important for people to understand us and know that our everyday struggle is real.

But! That being said, we'll revisit this topic in a few years and see if, like you said, I still have the same views lol.

[arbon]

Tracii said “she gave me a close look up and down and gave me a thumbs up gesture which I thought was cool.”

The one that was sighted was Tracii not the person in question. The clerk actually gave a thumbs up and was the one showing the solidarity.

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In the past Tracii has posted about her interactions in public with women while she is dressed in a feminine manner, and in those interactions she has indicated that she is usually looked over and received approving comments or gestures. Were those women "one of us" and part of the spectrum to?

[CD_blue]

In the past Tracii has posted about her interactions in public with women while she is dressed in a feminine manner, and in those interactions she has indicated that she is usually looked over and received approving comments or gestures. Were those women "one of us" and part of the spectrum to?

I don't know the women or the post your referring to so I couldn't answer. Regardless, Tracii told of positive encounter at a gas station where the clerk gave Tracii the thumbs up. The thread turns into "You dont' see the clerk in the same manner as you do a real female"

What your doing is asking a question though in reality your making a statement. Your saying that many of us don't see transitioned females in the same light as we do genetic females. That is perfectly good statement and I think it is completely worth discussing. Why pick this thread?

Me... If I assumed the clerk was a genetic female I would be like "yay!" if she had transitioned I would be like "yay!"

I would just be happy with the thumbs up and heck I might even make a post about it myself on here. Then again chances are I would do like I do on most post I make here.... Write it out then delete it after thinking about how someone is going to for some reason will get upset about it.

Again, I think your question is worth asking. I just don't think Tracii or anyone saying "awesome nice act of solidarity" are in the wrong. Nor do I hardly think they were saying "That isn't no REAL woman!"...

It was just simple story. Nothing more.

[Tracii G]

Well to be honest I think the "person" was either a "person" in transition or possibly 24/7 I don't know for sure.
I didn't make a big deal out of seeing the "person" I just smiled and treated the "person" a I would anyone.
I never marginalized the "person" in anyway,maybe this "person" was just starting a new life living as a woman heck I don't know for sure.
I showed respect and got respect in return.

[kimdl93]

I can recall recent posts where Traci mentions positive interactions with GGs and this one, which happened to involve one of the community. I don't see a problem here. Tracii gets out, she presents herself as she chooses, generally with a decidedly feminine twist, and from all her posts, I gather that she's well received by straight and not so straight alike.

[Tracii G]

Kim its only a problem for a few here.

[STACY B]

Hell why not make a Big Deal out of it ? We are so Private an Rare you almost want to run up to them an give them a Hug or atleast your phone number so maybe just maybe they might call or text an you can finally talk to a person with the same problems as you . Just because someone is happy so deep in the closet sure doesn't mean we all are ! Hell they have some long time chics on here are past all that lolly gagging stage an want to talk to some folks in person an have some friends they can see face to face . An even if they called you don't mean yull click with they age difference an all the other crap ,, It's like trying to win the Dam Lottery finding a local friend when there is no Local meetings . All of you that have local meeting an groups count your blessings that you don't live here . If I see a Sister I make it my bizzness to say or do Something nice .. There like Big foot sittings ,,lol,,,,

[Tracii G]

Stacy I love the way you put things!!!. :)

[Katey888]

Members,

Tracii has related a good experience here that was respectful and discreet - please let's not turn this into something that some of us might have experienced personally and negatively when it seems such a simple and positive interaction.

If anyone wants to talk about their own experiences, they're welcome to start another thread... :)

Katey
Moderator