Go buy a kilt she says

[Lena]

A little background....I've always closet dresser and thought I kept the secret well. There were the few times after we did the deed that I would put her clothes on afterwords. Not often but I guess enough to let the secret out. About 3 months ago, I suggested we go buy her a dress for the upcoming cruise. She said "why, you want a dress, we already know you like wearing womens clothes. "

That was a shock and I took the opportunity to confess that I did like wearing her clothes but not in a sexual way, embracing my soft side made me happy and feel good. She just smiles and walks away. I was left wondering WTH happened. That afternoon, we went clothes shopping together and it was an excellent time. (I had a beard. )

but we got home and she told me don't touch my dresses. I asked if I could get my own. She said "go buy a kilt. " she's actually said it a few times. Now I'm wondering if I should or not. Women's kilts rock but male kilts are long and look hot (in a sweat your crotch off kind of hot. " they look like they are bulky and they cost over $40.

But now, I'm left wondering, could this be the route to acceptance? I could start with a kilt, move into nylon stockings and a blouse? Or is she toying with me?

[LelaK]

Buy a women's kilt, or a skirt, or a slip.

[PattiAllison]

Lena, you didn't mention if her clothes fit on you, she might be worried about having her clothes stretched out. I would go ahead and get yourself the prettiest woman's kilt you can find and of course you will need a blouse, panties, bra, stockings and shoes. Be a woman and stand up for your right to dress!:heehee:

[Gretchen_To_Be]

Hmmm...I think she is teasing/testing you. Come clean, tell her what you want to do, and tell her you'd prefer to do it with her than in secret.

[Wildaboutheels]

Toying with you? My opinion is that you are clearly suffering from FIC - Forum Induced Courage. Her "stance" looks perfectly clear to me.

Unless I misunderstood your OP? Are you saying that AFTER sex you would put on maybe underwear or bra? And/or actually put on the clothes she was wearing before "the deed"? Either is a pretty good indicator of a "unique" guy that any woman would notice.

The real Q to me is just WHAT is it you seek as far as "acceptance"? JUST clothing at home whenever you want or the full blown forms, wigs, makeup etc.? Do you want or need to go out dressed? Going out dressed is not necessarily a natural progression nor will it make you a better CDer.

Why not just cut to the chase and ask HER if she would be comfortable if you bought a woman's kilt? [I never realized there were such things] OR...buy a man's kilt and hem it up a bit if it's possible AND ok with her. Your AV indicates you would not likely be happy with something that comes to your knees.

Keep in mind that many here RUINED their Relationships by pushing too hard, too far and too fast just because their SO gave an inch.

[jjjjohanne]

Whatever you do, tread lightly.

[BLUE ORCHID]

Toying with you? My opinion is that you are clearly suffering from FIC - Forum Induced Courage. Her "stance" looks perfectly clear to me.


Hi WAH, F I C , That's a good one, I love it.

[Laura912]

Perhaps asking her to sit down with you and give you some honest thoughts about her feelings would be the best rather than assuming anything.

[Roxie]

gotta own it ,buy a hot skirt call it a kilt and pack it for your cruise

[Kate Simmons]

Well, if you get a kilt, you'll also need some boots Mon. :heehee::)

[CynthiaD]

Buy a skirt, and tell her it's a kilt. Of course she won't believe you. Then act like you're too dumb to know the difference. That she'll believe.

(Nothing personal hon. All women think that they're much smarter than any man.)

[Katey888]

Lena,

It strikes me you've got over the hardest part of opening a conversation about this - I think I'd be wanting to explore that right now rather than worrying too much about what item of apparel might be appropriate... :) I might go as far as to say it sounds like she's actually inviting a conversation... but whatever it is, I think you should be saying "Seriously dear, we need to talk about something..." and see where the conversation goes before buying anything...

But whatever happens after, don't buy a man kilt... although it probably goes better with the beard.. ;)

Katey x

[Lena]

Thanks for all of the insightful insights. There is some good advice here.

[Amymonroe]

you could always buy the material and make your own kilt. i used to be part of a world wide organization known as the S.C.A. and i made my own kilts.

amy

[Windsong]

Buy a skirt, and tell her it's a kilt. Of course she won't believe you. Then act like you're too dumb to know the difference. That she'll believe.

(Nothing personal hon. All women think that they're much smarter than any man.)

Cynthia I really do enjoy your sense of humor/attitude in your posts....you do lift my spirits a lot....thankyou

[Stephanie47]

I think there at least two messages she has conveyed to you. First, she knows you like wearing women's clothing. Be realistic! Women are really aware if someone messes with their garments. Maybe a lot of guys just throw their BVD's in a draw. I bet just about all women, like mine, fold their panties in a certain manner. Their bras also. Hang their dresses or jeans on hangers in a certain order, etc. What sort of a man dons a woman's clothing after sex? Not too many I suspect. And, a guy dragged along on shopping trip for women's clothing? Where's the big screen TV section? I think your secret has been known to her for a long time.

When she tells you to go buy a kilt I suspect she is telling you she really is not being accepting of cross dressing. I've heard the kilt line before. Kilt's are worn by 'manly' men usually at ceremonial occasions. I suspect that may be her level of acceptance when it comes to wearing clothing other than pants.

If I read your post correctly, you have already come out to her. Maybe you want to sit down and have a serious conversation about your desire/need to wear women's clothing. There's no need to 'skirt' around the issue anymore.

[Judith96a]

... a woman's kilt? [I never realized there were such things]

Have you really never seen a woman wearing a kilt? I've seen women wearing kilts of all shapes and sizes (and I don't mean long kilted skirts). And not only in Scotland either!



But whatever happens after, don't buy a man kilt... although it probably goes better with the beard.. ;)

Katey x

Why not buy a male kilt? I'd love one (for drab mode) - and maybe a matching female one for Judith!

Seriously though, a proper (not light-weight) kilt (male or female variety) is warm - even in a highland winter!

[sandra-leigh]

Note: a real kilt for men is heavy, involving 9 yards of material. It is also expensive, hundreds of dollars. It is also probably not easy to find one locally in most of the USA.

[RADER]

It just might be that she does not like the idea of you wearing her clothes.
Many women are funny that way, and do not like even borrowing other womans clothes.
So go and buy your self a skirt, and show her you have your own.
Rader

[Bria]

Kilts are avaliable in the US. My wife has a subscription to Scottish Life and they have ads for all sorts of
scottish garments. Kilts are not cheap as memtioned, but I don't think that they would be hot to wear, I will find out as my wife says she will get me one. She is going to Scotland this fall so maybe she'll get one over there!

Hugs, Bria

[Joni T]

I wear the kilts AND play the pipes as well. DO NOT buy a skirt and try to pawn it off as a kilt--it simply won't work. There are between 9-13 yards of material in a kilt--most of it in the pleats. Yes they're expensive. A couple to a few hundred bucks. They're not terribly hot in hot weather-especially if you wear them regimental (that's old verbiage for '' commando'' in modern lingo) style. Boots don't mix with the kilts either. You'll need knee socks and proper brouges as well. Wearing the kilts correctly ain't cheap, but definitely fun.
Jon (Joni's twin brother) lol

[Beverley Sims]

A kilt is a kilt and will never be a skirt.
I agree with the previous poster here, kilts are heavy and I found it very difficult to do the sword dance in one.
Trousers or shorts and I could do fine, the heavier weight of a kilt killed me.

[stefan37]

You should never ever wear your partner or spouses clothes without their explicit permission. Buy your own clothes period!!!

[StarrOfDelite]

Back in the old days, there was probably at least one Roman Catholic girls high school in every major metropolitan area in the USA where kilts were the uniform, along with a white blouse, white/navy/black knee socks, and a black short tie.

I think that most of those kilted uniform schools have gone the way of real Nuns wearing wimples as classroom teachers. However, if there is such a school in your area you should be able to purchase a kilt at the store which caters to the students.

Also, I can verify that if you Google Image crossdresser + kilt + school girl that you will find some very interesting pornography. The odd thing about that is that is mainly of Japanese origin, which I find amusing.

[devida]

I have a bunch of dresses. I want a kilt. There are some fabulous new kilts out there. I don't want a Scottish kilt. I want one of the new punk style kilts, or a utilikilt, or a hiking kilt. I think Kanye rocked a fine black leather kilt recently.

But that isn't the point, is it? Maybe your SO is opening up a conversation about your cross dressing? If buying a kilt is the price you pay to start the conversation, what is wrong with that? Or just buy a cute short skirt kilt and claim that it is a kilt because it has a tartan.

If she does not give you her clothes or give you permission to wear them, don't wear them. You have to know that is just rude and, even worse, it puts you in a lousy negotiating position. Buy your own!

[Lena]

Oh, as far as what clothes after the deed? Panties and camisoles. I had a few pictures when I was young and my mother let me wear dresses, makeup and heels to trick or treat. She knows and seems to have a DADT attitude. A kilt is not what I want or would buy...... Well unless it is a first step to acceptance. But I guess we'll have a talk this weekend. By her indication it doesn't seem to be coming soon. I'll take whatI and love her for her patience with me.

[Joni T]

Or just buy a cute short skirt kilt and claim that it is a kilt because it has a tartan.


Don't do that and shame the kilts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Joni

[donnalee]

As in the old punch-line, "we've already established that, now let's discuss price."

[Taylor186]

Wearing a men's kilt, to me, is not a first step towards acceptance of crossdressing as it is not crossdressing. Yes, you need to have the talk if you want to be more open about your desire to crossdress.

[Samantha_Smile]

To me, the glib response of "Go buy a kilt" is slightly inflammatory.

It's either a targeted insult or a statement made based on total lack of understanding.
(I say this because tone is difficult to appreciate in text)

But either way, a long, possibly uncomfortable talk is needed here.
Good luck x

[Lvjim]

Sport kilt
Good price and quality
The non crossdress world will call it a skirt, which it is

Kilt on

[NicoleScott]

There's no need to 'skirt' around the issue anymore.

Good one. Your clever play on words really kilt me.

[~Joanne~]

Sounds to me likes she's saying if you want to wear a skirt, it better be from the men's section. It could just be me though.