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LelaK
08-22-2014, 10:14 PM
CDs, were you already "weird" aside from crossdressing?
GGs & GMs, were you "weird" in any way?
Does crossdressing seem weird? Or does not crossdressing seem weird? And does weird seem appealing or unappealing?
How much weirdness can you stand?

Before adulthood, I never thought I was weird or odd, but when I was about 28 I learned that my Sun sign is considered eccentric or weird. And when I thought about it then, it did seem that at least since I got out of high school that I had a lot of odd tendencies. In HS I had been too shy to ask any girls out or anything, but that was common in my rural hometown. Oh yes, something odd from my teen or preteen years was that I did art and grew flowers. (And I sometimes crossdressed in private.)

A few years after HS I started investigating odd things, like socialism, anarchism, alternative science, vegetarian diet, alternative health, astrology, spiritualism, celibacy etc. I never considered crossdressing weird, but most people seem to.

Does anyone know what astrological sign/s is/are said to make people weird? (i.e. just people who have signs)

SO1Adam12
08-22-2014, 10:30 PM
I have been called "so normal" by so many people that I wonder if I'm boring!!! The truth is, if my close friends and family knew about my SO's CDing, they would look at me like I had grown another head for staying with him. I can't explain it and trying is just too exhausting.

My SO, on the other hand, leaves many scratching their heads....not that they have the slightest hint of his CDing, it's everything else about him. Maybe that's a result of his CDing or maybe his CDing is a result of his quirks. Once again, trying to figure it out if the chicken or the egg came first is also too exhausting!

So yes, he's weird, but he's weird about everything.

SuzanneS
08-22-2014, 10:46 PM
"weird" is just about as common as being "normal", isn't it? Who decides what is weird and what is normal, and who says they are correct in the way that they think?

It's only "weird" if you let everyone else think that it is.....

I know....easier said than done... ;)

Suzanne

abby054
08-22-2014, 10:48 PM
That is how I received my name, "Abby": according to my wife, I am "Abby-Normal". I am a Prince of Geeks and all-around weird one.

Brenda456
08-22-2014, 10:50 PM
People think I am "normal." I used to think I was "normal." Now I know there is no such thing.

Jorja
08-22-2014, 10:58 PM
I am not strange or odd, that is a terrible rumor, started by those who fail to understand, appreciate, or comprehend the unique and interesting aspects and contradictions of my personality and character.

LelaK
08-22-2014, 10:58 PM
Speaking of "Normal", Chris Crocker had interesting things to say about it while "dressed" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0VRkCF2a80

Did any of you see that before? Neato.

Jenniferathome
08-23-2014, 12:05 AM
...Does crossdressing seem weird? ...(i.e. just people who have signs)

Of course it seems weird! We can't even explain it to ourselves. Why should we think others won't find it weird or be offended that they do?

ReineD
08-23-2014, 12:38 AM
My SO has always been on the fringe. He was academically gifted as a child, and this set him apart. He also had difficulties socially as a teenager which resulted in an inability to ask girls out, like you. He was political in college, but again in unconventional ways. He has been the odd one out all his life, and this is why being a CDer never really bothered him. It was just another thing. I think he takes a great deal of pride in being outside of the box. lol

I think I'm normal, but people with traditional values think I'm odd. I'm rather liberal. I have both an artistic side that is full of passion, and a cold analytical side. Both these states live side by side and produce some rather unconventional internal reactions to people and events. I also tend to think outside of the box so I guess my SO and I are well suited to one another.

But overall I think that my SO and I are both well within the "normal" range. The range is wide indeed and I think that only a small percentage of people fit within the rather narrow conventional confines of the stereotypical "normal", whatever that is.

DebbieL
08-23-2014, 12:50 AM
Our very nature is to challenge and question fundamental truths that most people consider axiomatic. Most people believe that their sexual identity should be defined by the few cubic inches between their legs. If they have boy parts, then they are boys who will become men and will do the things that men do because that's what men do. They will fight as boys, fight as men, and even go to war. Many will die and will do so while blindly following orders, because that's whan men do. If they have girl parts, they are girls. They will be discouraged from fighting, they will be trained to become mothers, to cooperate with other mothers, to give birth to children, to submit to the men who have survived the wars. They will learn to behave as the survivors want them to behave. In some cultures, wars are so common that men are scarce and women must share their men with other women, whether other wives, mistresses, or prostitutes, and each woman has her own way of getting what she needs from the men she serves. She will look, act, dress, and behave in the manner which provides for her needs.

But the transgender, the cross-dresser, takes NOTHING for granted. They question everything. Whether it's Joan D'Arc, or Queen Elizabeth I, or Marie Antoinette, transgender women have saught and gained power, and acheived greatness as women. Transgender and homosexual men have often produced great art, feats of engineering, and played a decisive role in wars without ever carrying a weapon. Whether Merlin, the Michelangelo, or Alan Turing, the wizard, the artist, and the engineer have challenged the established knowledge and introduced extraordinary innovation. Many of the greatest changers of history chose NOT to accept the fame and recognition they had earned, so that they could live their private lives as they chose.

History is filled with Wierdos who questioned the very nature of reality, Jesus Christ, Francis of Assissi, Budhha, Confucious, Lao Tsu, the Wright Brothers, Henry Ford, Mercedes, Honda, Edsel Ford, Einstein, Oppenheimer, Steve Jobs, Steve Wozniak, Bill Gates, Paul Allen, Oprah Winfrey, Martin Luther, Moses, Aristotle, Ben Franklin, John & Abigail Adams, Thomas Jefferson, Mahatma Ghandi, Martin Luther King Jr, John F Kennedy, and so on. Look at any great accomplisment of civilization anywhere in the world and you will see the work of men and women unnamed and unknown whose ability to question the status quo, the "truths" which were established by those who wished to protect the status quo. Whether it's flight, or the Internet, you will find among the innovators and instigators the "wierdos" who often struggled to challenge the established order by bringing illumination, who challenged the power of absolute rulers, advocating independent thought and government by consent of the governed. Many were given insights and made great discoveries and yet were forced to recant at risk of being condemned for heresay or treason.

I'm proud to be among those thousands of "Wierdos" who have helped to change the world while remaining anonymous rather than give up the freedom to be who I am. I'm not alone.

Anna H
08-23-2014, 01:54 AM
I guess it could be said that I am. At least, I've heard it
before...lol!

We moved a lot when I was growing up so I never had time
to fit in. And being the new little thang on the block, I was
always at the bottom of any pecking orders.

I'd get into trouble trying to fit in. Trying to please everyone
and be liked. I'm lucky I didn't end in in a bad place...or dead.
But, my little secret kept me from going too far because I knew
that one day, everything would be OK and I'd be able to just be
myself....if i could just last until then....lol!

I didn't live anything even remotely considered a normal life.
There have been dozens of times that I'd go stick my thumb
out and catch a ride to some major city with not a cent to my
name.

Always, the idea was to make a brand new start and settle into
discovering exactly what this "condition" I have meant. Far away
from family or anyone I may bring embarrassment to.

But then, I'm right back where I started. At the bottom of the
pecking order, and back into trouble once again.
(minor trouble....i'm too scared to be much of real bad-ass...lol!)

So...like the bottle says. Rinse-Repeat.

Thank God my wife came along. I wondered many times if she herself
is normal to want anything to do with an odd one like myself.
But, I'd say it's all finally worked out. It sure took awhile, though!

:)

sarahcsc
08-23-2014, 04:07 AM
My friends didn't think I was weird, but then again, I hung out with a group of people who everybody else considered weird. My family also said I was weird, in fact, they were the ones who were most aware of my demeanor and kept telling me "not to be weird" or "start acting normal". Looking back now, I thought I was just being myself and I suspect I'll always be weird to somebody no matter what I did or didn't do. Despite what everybody was saying to me, I felt like they were the weird ones and not me, and I still do! Lol.

I like being weird, I like the whole idea of weirdness because it is so exciting! I mean... Sure being normal means having a simpler and possibly happier life (no guarantees) but why be happy when you can be weird and interesting!? Some people hate weirdos out of their ignorance and fear, I love weirdos because they are so interesting! It's boring to hear a normal person speak, but it's thrilling when a person speaks weirdly!

Anyways, I digress. My point is... I'm weird to somebody out there and so is everybody is weird to me. But that's exactly how I like the world to be.

Love,
Sarah

noeleena
08-23-2014, 04:21 AM
Hi,

lets face it i was going to be weird long before i was born , different if you must , for my self weird means i dont have to prove im sane or normal in fact being different opens more doors to people and more ? s. are asked,

just means more people get to know me and why im different , im not talking a few 100 i mean a few Million , doors opened to speak with so many people had i been normal life would have been so boring .

oppitunitys were given to myself, you know you can stay at home and do what, live life and not do much or go places, just live in one place , no not this family Mom and i moved a lot and Jos and i moved a lot more , worked in different places out of NZ met more people and all round the south isl of New Zealand .

My life may be weird it sure was and is not boring , thats for sure,

Being weird what does that really mean to me . to be born different intersexed both male / female not sure how to answer this part so ill try.....

To see life with different eye,s not like a male yet being were a male is and seeing it unfold before you, plus you are percived as a male yet your not , did i understand how a male does ,

No because i could not relate to or with males i looked on just was not a part of thier world , as for work oh yes very much so because i had to work under them , talk thier langauge as in learned in some respects yes so i could hold a some what reasonable converstion with male about some parts of life as i saw it, other than that i was a reject and felt like one ,

From my femaleness i was not accepted as i should have been yes i was by a few women though for most some would have picked up details about my self that would have said female though really for most no.

this i belive was because of my facial features so i was tarred and feathered as male ,

So weird i was born and weird i live .and weird i,ll die, mind you it can be fun most of the time though i get my down days like any female does,

Live -lieben ist das Leben zu leben

To love live is to Live life,

To the full wether we are weird or not just enjoy the Day .

...noeleena...

typhoidmary
08-23-2014, 04:37 AM
I've been perceived as weird and different since I was a kid, what with having such massive social anxiety which has always been an obstacle for me. I used to hate it and wish I was just normal like everyone else but I guess I learned to work around it, if nothing else it's kind of comforting that no one really expects me to be "normal" based on how I look, it makes it easier to just be myself.

Laura J
08-23-2014, 04:51 AM
I'm certainly the weird one. Weird things come easier to me in conversation than normal things.

Vickie_CDTV
08-23-2014, 05:26 AM
Oh yes, I was always considered to be a "weirdo" and was a bit of an outcast growing up. I'd say I was socially awkward too, but "socially awkward" would be an understatement. People always thought there was "something wrong with me" without ever having known about my TVism.

As an adult, doctors would later confirm, yes, there were quite a few things wrong with me.

KimberlyJean
08-23-2014, 05:51 AM
I must be the weird one on this forum, I have been completely normal and successful my entire life. I think my crossdressing is life's way of keeping things in perspective for me.

Marcelle
08-23-2014, 06:54 AM
Hi Lela,

Well anything is going to seem weird when you don't conform to one person's or a group of person's perception of what "normal" is. For me, Isha is a normal part of who I am and so I don't consider her weird. If someone wants to look at her and say "freak, weirdo" that is their baggage not mine. End state for me . . . we are no more weird than any other person on the face of the planet. I had a friend tell me "dressing as a girl seems weird" (he was not being mean just stating a fact). I then replied "Not dressing as a girl seems weird to me". He said "point taken" and we continued enjoying our beers. :)

Hugs

Isha

Katey888
08-23-2014, 07:50 AM
Yes - I think so... a bit wacky... :lol:

Is this weird? For most folks - yes - of course... not majority 'normal' so must be...

Is weird appealing? Yes - for me :) I like things and people that are a little 'off-centred'... I think generally it leads to more interesting perspectives on life... but how much can I stand? Well, I need a break and immersing in normality at least once a week, just so I don't misbehave too much... ;)

Anything to do with star signs..? Not in the least... unless anyone's buying free drinks for Capricorns and then 'yup' - I'm bought in to that aspect... :D

Katey x

Kris Avery
08-23-2014, 08:28 AM
Hi Lela,

Well anything is going to seem weird when you don't conform to one person's or a group of person's perception of what "normal" is. For me, Isha is a normal part of who I am and so I don't consider her weird. If someone wants to look at her and say "freak, weirdo" that is their baggage not mine. End state for me . . . we are no more weird than any other person on the face of the planet. I had a friend tell me "dressing as a girl seems weird" (he was not being mean just stating a fact). I then replied "Not dressing as a girl seems weird to me". He said "point taken" and we continued enjoying our beers. :)

Hugs

Isha

Awesome quote. Isha

Yes, I'm 100% weird to society...right now... so (your point)?

In 100 years will it be? We will all be wearing grey spandex body suits and have no hair right? (yay)

Krististeph
08-23-2014, 08:48 AM
Yes i was weird. But quite the opposite of any meta-physics, spirituality, or new age- quite geek-ish, a result of being raised by much older parents with serious business and scientific training, and siblings who supported this as well. I got on much better with my teachers than my peers. Of course this had benefits, the girls I dated were quite mature for their age, and being able to converse intelligently and maturely with their parents kind of gave me the 'keys to the castle' so to speak (and quite often their Dad's car or truck to take their daughters out with, not a bad deal).

In the army, I suffered the dual curse of being small in size, and relatively smart, meaning i didn't just think about beer and babes. When I was not being accused of being gay, I was being ostracized for not being stupid like everyone else.

Crossdressing was never that weird to me, I saw it as partly a hold over from the days of youth- playing dress-up with girls, who aside from having girly-germs(tm), were wonderful to play with, at least until they got old enough to start being catty to each other.

And crossdressing is about appreciation and celebration of things female, and damn if i wasn't attracted to females. I had guy friends, but a lot of that was simply because guys tended to hang together as the girls were supposed to be sexual objects and only used for such or seen in that light... lord forbid they be friends.

My wife of a quarter century was a lot like me- except for the crossdressing- we are best friends as well as spouses- an we make a hell of a team when we put our heads together.

CynthiaD
08-23-2014, 08:51 AM
I've always been considered weird. I do a lot of weird things, but crossdressing isn't one of them. As I said before, crossdressing is not weird. Being transgendered is not weird. Living your whole life pretending to be something you're not? That's weird.

Eringirl
08-23-2014, 09:29 AM
Through the lenses I view the world (albeit with somewhat of a rose tint), everyone has their idiosyncrasies and uniqueness, so to some extent, everyone is "weird" to someone. So is "weird" the new "normal"?

Just my thoughts. Now back to your regularly scheduled discussion....:)

Jonithan
08-23-2014, 09:56 AM
I was born and raised weird. I'm left handed in a right handed world. I eat and write with my left. Cut with scissors with my right. Put on pants and skirts right leg first. Step into the shower left foot first...

... I'm not just weird, I'm a freak

joni (freak)

Adriana Moretti
08-23-2014, 02:53 PM
In high school they had awards...you know like most popular, class clown....etc...I won most unique...i even won it the year after i graduated LOL...I like that word better than weird...eccentric is another good one.....i also love the phrase "Stay Weird" though.....nothing wrong with being a bit weird normal is boring anyway

Alice Torn
08-23-2014, 03:16 PM
Always, with eccentric, alcoholics, odd balls, weird, dysfunctional bachelors, dysfunctional women, now with a very loneristic people hating woman next door, about the only person i talk with. Yada yada.

Ressie
08-23-2014, 03:47 PM
Y'all are weird! I mean everyone is at least a bit different. Supposedly normal people might be the weirdest! The only way to see others as unweird is to try to understand why they are the way they are. My immediate family are some of the most normal people to me, but each of them still have their own peculiarities, especially myself. hahahahaha

Tracii G
08-23-2014, 09:36 PM
I may seem odd or abnormal to some but does it make me worry about it?
Not in the least.I am as normal as anyone else.
I wake up each morning feeling like myself and that feels normal to me.
Being a non conformist is a good thing.

SuzanneS
08-23-2014, 09:56 PM
I am a huge fan of the movie Tombstone....

As Doc says near the end of the movie... "There's no normal life, Wyatt, it's just life. Get on with it."

Oh, and by the way.... would LOVE to wear the dresses they did back then, although they do look a little warm. Might have to see if I could seek some employment at the local saloon...looks like they might have better "uniforms". lol

Suzanne.

Gillian Gigs
08-23-2014, 10:52 PM
I, for the most part have walked to the beat of my own drum. The problem is that everyone is telling me to stop beating that dam drum! It is easier being a loner, than attempting to fit into their pigeon holes. Sad but true, it is difficult finding someone who thinks like I do. It is difficult to find someone with the same interests, and by that I am not talking about CDing either. One of my common interests with others is football, so I have something from now until the super bowl in February, then the drought after that until the following September. What's Normal, a small town in Nebraska?

Amanda L.
08-24-2014, 06:10 AM
Weird is just a subjective manifestation of someone else's bigotry.
Cheers
Amanda

Ressie
08-24-2014, 08:20 AM
That is watering down the meaning of bigotry IMO. Viewing someone or something as weird doesn't necessarily indicate intolerance or predjudice. Something weird is simply strange or unusual.

SO1Adam12
08-24-2014, 01:38 PM
230919

Saw this on FB and this thread immediately came to mind... :)

Kate Simmons
08-25-2014, 07:11 AM
I was maybe considered a little "odd" by my peers as a teenager as I didn't bother much with the normal stuff boys my age did, including dating girls. I had my own adventures in my own little area of operation around my home, including gravel pit woods, creek and local swamp. Plus rode all over town with my bike. I loved and enjoyed comic book super heroes, especially the female ones and science fiction books of all kinds. I loved any TV show or movie that featured an empowered woman character. This was a pattern I followed into later life. When I got out into the world and work force I learned that people are our greatest assets regardless of what kind of whiz bang tech is out there. As a mature CD I now value my friends and people in general. :battingeyelashes::)

LilSissyStevie
08-25-2014, 11:05 AM
I'm not so much weird as I'm obnoxiously, compulsively contrarian.:tongueout I almost always take the road less traveled. Sometimes that hasn't worked out so good but most of the time it has.:D

6inchheels
08-25-2014, 11:46 AM
Personally I find astrology to be far stranger than crossdressing.
That's one big batch of nonsense.

JamieG
08-25-2014, 12:48 PM
I was definitely a weird kid: comic-book collecting, D&D playing, computer nerd. My parents taught me to embrace my quirks, so I didn't worry about it. I suppose that's why my crossdressing never caused me much anguish. I "knew" I had to keep it a secret, but I would just do it, and then move on til the next time. Now that I've accepted it, I'm kind of proud of it. Sure, crossdressing is weird, but that doesn't make it wrong.

sometimes_miss
08-25-2014, 06:23 PM
I'm a crossdresser, I play with model trains, race cars, motorcycles, love disco, jazz and hard rock too. Rarely drink, don't smoke. Like drinking V8 but hate eating veggies. Prefer the company of women. Favorite color is dark purple, or orange. Like flight sims and submarine war games, but not first person shooters; for some reason it's perfectly to flame someone's ass from the cockpit or sub but not while running around? I like just sitting on the peak of my roof and looking around. Huge feet and hands, small penis. High IQ scores, terrible school grades. I can build cars, motorcycles, computers, made an amature radio. But can't sew decently. I can cook, but baking pastries well eludes me. Yes, I'm weird.

Isabella Ross
08-25-2014, 06:43 PM
I spent the first 80 percent of my life feeling weird for one reason: I liked to dress in women's lingerie and clothes. What increased the weirdness for me was comparing it to the other interests in my life: sports, cars, music, guitars, art, motorcycles, girls. Then about eight years ago I clued in that there's at least enough of us TGs to populate a few small countries. These days I feel boringly normal.

Beverley Sims
09-16-2014, 06:10 AM
I never felt weird, I do not wish to appear weird or outlandish.
I was always different, it did attract girls though.
My male friends seemed rough and uncouth by comparison.
That is why I gained the girls company more than my friends.

devida
09-16-2014, 08:54 AM
All my life I have mostly associated with people others considered weird. After all these years a number of my old friends have succumbed to normality and present as regular folk. I do not and never will. In the circle of people I know, with very very few exceptions (and not counting the clinically insane :D ), I am the strangest person I know. And I know some very strange people.

KittyD
09-16-2014, 09:18 AM
I'm not weird... just strange :D
I've studied some of these subjects too - now that is weird...!

KD

GingerSeti
09-16-2014, 09:28 AM
I never felt weird, I do not wish to appear weird or outlandish.
I was always different, it did attract girls though.
My male friends seemed rough and uncouth by comparison.
That is why I gained the girls company more than my friends.

That's exactly how I felt. I had a female boss once who I admired and respected immensely. The guys who worked for her, hated her but I thought she was the best boss I ever had, still feel that way. I once spent an evening in New Orleans with her and we got smashed together and had a blast. I don't enjoy getting tipsy with too many male friends because they become people I don't like. So in that respect, I suppose I'm weird.

cassandra54
09-16-2014, 10:15 AM
My SO has always been on the fringe. He was academically gifted as a child, and this set him apart. He also had difficulties socially as a teenager which resulted in an inability to ask girls out, like you. He was political in college, but again in unconventional ways. He has been the odd one out all his life, and this is why being a CDer never really bothered him. It was just another thing. I think he takes a great deal of pride in being outside of the box. lol

I think I'm normal, but people with traditional values think I'm odd. I'm rather liberal. I have both an artistic side that is full of passion, and a cold analytical side. Both these states live side by side and produce some rather unconventional internal reactions to people and events. I also tend to think outside of the box so I guess my SO and I are well suited to one another.

But overall I think that my SO and I are both well within the "normal" range. The range is wide indeed and I think that only a small percentage of people fit within the rather narrow conventional confines of the stereotypical "normal", whatever that is.

Bingo. I've been called weird, creepy, odd, strange and a whole lot of other things. I too am bright, (around 135 in the i.q. range.), very creative, emotional, and have a very vivid imagination. I was never good at sports, although I"m good at working with my hands. I'm about as different as anyone can be, regarding my political beliefs, society and my views towards religion. Being socially challenged is just normal for me. In some ways, I am a lot like Sheldon Cooper on the Big Bang Theory. One thing I read or saw somewhere said,"not only do I march to the beat of a different drummer, I have my own percussion section."

That being said, I did have a lot of angst in my life about not fitting in. I always thought it would be cool to be "just one of the guys". I could have game, be able to have lots of women and take advantage of people for my own benefit. None of that ever happened for me. People take kindness as a sign of weakness and so it went for me.

I was always interested in wearing women's clothes, but never felt I was a woman trapped in a man's body. But I did think it would be cool if I woke up one day and I was a woman. A real woman. But I always attributed that thought to being different. I thought my interest and desire to wear women's clothes was just one of the many ways that I'm different.

Being socially challenged, I never had much luck with women. I've had a lot of bad relationships, co-dependencies, enabling and so on. When I was younger, I even had a gay relationship, where I lived with a man for over a year. But I found out later in life, that when it comes to meeting either men or women, I am pretty challenged. I got pretty lucky with the girlfriend that I have now. I posted a personal ad on CL and told people not to read the ad or answer it, because I was tired of dealing with flakes. However, I've learned from my mistakes and while this relationship might appear to be a godsend, I am keeping a watchful eye out for my heart.

I would have to say that my biggest regret in life was not doing what I did about 7 years ago when I was 53. I decided that my talents and abilities would rule and shape my life. It's been difficult at times, but I can say that even with the loss of someone very close in my life it's been the best time in my life. I've learned that intellect, talent and abilities are precious gifts and can be used at any time in our lives. I believe that having your own set of beliefs and using them to make your world better is key. I am proud of who I am and I own it. Just like with my new girlfriend. I've told her about my dressing and why I do it, she seems to be really on board with it.

My dressing or as I would like to say, gender-fluid or femulation was only one of the many good things to come out of the last 7 years. No it doesn't seem weird to me. I am not conflicted and I've come to love who I am as a guy. In fact, it seems the more I dress, the more I like who I am when I'm not. Like I said, this came late in life, but I'm making up for lost time.