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Jenny Elwood
08-29-2014, 06:08 AM
I suppose if you're fully closeted you don't have to worry about this one. If you're like me, only out to close people but go out from time to time, the opportunity might present itself with strangers. (Especially if they ask: Why do you do it? You know, reply with: Have you ever tried it? So how do you know you won't like it?) If you're out to the world, of course, there's nothing really holding you back.

For me I would probably not do it for fear of getting someone else caught in this web. You know, they try it, like it and get stuck in it as well. I used to believe you are either a crossdresser or not, which meant you started on this path somewhere before twenty. With what I've read on so-called "late bloomers" I'm not so sure any more. Some will argue it lay dormant and was triggered by something, which implies the trigger was there all along. Others will argue it popped out of nowhere. (Sounds a bit like that other nonsensical theory: Nothing exploded and created everything). Either way I'd prefer not to be the one sending someone down this path, the price it extols on the person, his family, his marriage and/or relationships is too high, and I would not want to be the person responsible, even if it's a stranger.

What's your take?

VS Fan
08-29-2014, 06:15 AM
Don't think I would recommend this out of the blue, but if someone asked me about why I do it, (or even why I shave my chest, legs, etc) I would certainly reply with a "dude, just try it... " I don't think this is a curse by any means, so if I "triggered" this in someone else, I would be ok with that... VS Fan

alwayshave
08-29-2014, 06:30 AM
For me crossdressing is innate. I need to and always have. Therefore, I can't see why a suggestion would get someone else to try it.

Amanda L.
08-29-2014, 06:40 AM
Hi Jenny
How's my beautiful South African friend?
Interesting thought but I guess the root of the matter is ' you either are or you aren't ' a cross dresser.
The million dollar question is 'why do you (we) do it?' and I am yet to find an answer that deals with this question at its deepest level instead of the usual "it makes me feel good" or "it completes me as a person" etc. Don't get me wrong I believe these are valid answers so maybe I am searching for the undefinable.
Sorry back to your point, so having said that a crossdresser will define their own path anyway. Read the plethora of articles about how people started and the triggers that spark the interest, along with the posts about how people feel if they are denied dressing opportunity. Merely suggesting that someone cross dress to try it may therefore not necessarily cause them to embark on the same path of discovery that many of us have taken. If the seed is within them then it will eventually germinate and blossom (if they care to nurture it)
You are quite correct in your postulation about the potential ramifications of crossdressing and agree that these are not outcomes I would wish upon anyone nor want to indirectly instigate. Let them find their own way.
By the way if I put on a Springbok jersey does that make me a crossdresser? (lol)
Cheers
Amanda

deebra
08-29-2014, 06:46 AM
Well you're post makes some good points, if you're a non-CD you don't have the non-acceptance problems we do but the non-CD's don't enjoy the wonderful feeling of wearing those beautiful feminine feeling clothes we get to and I'm enjoying it right now. Isn't it better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all????? Since I was born a CD I'm making the most of it by enjoying it "like right now" (panties, bra, forms, garter belt, stockings, heels, girl jeans and top). If I met someone who showed all the signs of being interested in being feminine and wearing the clothing I would tell him I am a CD and help him along, when I first started and you feel like you are the only one in the world that has a compulsion to do this I would really have appreciated another CD to have helped me along. It could have been a lot of fun, learning, shopping together and sharing this mutual interest.

Danitgirl1
08-29-2014, 07:14 AM
Hi Jenny
Hope you are well.
So my thoughts are that crossdressing is an EXCELLENT way for men to better understand the female side of things.
Walking down a street in a pair of heels and a dress and being objectified is quite an experience.
You realise just how vulnerable you are: you cant fight (very well), you can't run in the heels...
You need to be careful, use your head etc etc...
If every man did this I think we would start to see some different behaviours...
The longer and more you do this, the more 'in touch' I think you would get.
So, I think every man SHOULD crossdress at some time in his life, BUT I don't see too many being open to the idea so I wouldn't bother...
Also I don't really think anyone who isnt so inclined would do it just because I said they should.\
Just don't see that happening.
Daniella

Jenny Elwood
08-29-2014, 07:14 AM
By the way if I put on a Springbok jersey does that make me a crossdresser? (lol)

No, but it does make you a better person. :D I've seen some pink Springbok jumpers for ladies supporters though, even has a nice feminine cut, will send you one if you wish. :D Chances are you will get beat up though, not for crossdressing, but for wearing the oppositions colors! I can only imagine what would happen to me if I went to Loftus in a pink Wallaby jumper. Ouch!


Walking down a street in a pair of heels and a dress and being objectified is quite an experience.

So Daniella you have actually done it! I thought your only trip out was to Trouble (gay bar).

Lynn Marie
08-29-2014, 07:22 AM
I just can't support anyone wanting to deceive their wives and kids. It just makes me feel like the other woman. Now if you are unattached and free to dress as you like then I would definitely recommend CDing as an avocation, or hobby, or sport, what have you. Being retired and unattached myself, I'm having the time of my life. I have a bunch of great CD girlfriends and plenty of social activities to participate in. What could be better? On the other hand, I'll do my best to discourage any kind of controlling obsessions. They're just not healthy.

UNDERDRESSER
08-29-2014, 07:32 AM
Yes, I could see myself saying they should try it. I am only wearing skirts, but not, in my mind crossdressing as such. I almost certainly will, suggest some guys try that, as more people see me in them and they ask why. A few, who know me more closely, and who get the chance to explore the subject deeper, I will probably tell of how I originally thought of myself as a CD, and why I think I that started, (expressing the need to feel sexy, and being more vulnerable) which I think a lot of guys could benefit from.

Amanda L.
08-29-2014, 07:33 AM
No, but it does make you a better person. :D (I've seen some pink Springbok jumpers for ladies supporters though. even has a nice feminine cut, will send you one if you wish:D).


I would cherish it.
Luv
Amanda

Deebra
I like your point about support for someone who has CD tendency. From personal experience the best thing that has happened to me was to make some very close and dear friends on this forum who have helped me enormously with my cross dressing. Whilst I would not want to send someone down the path as Jenny says I would certainly be there to offer any support they required and provide them with some comfort around any confusion they had
Cheers
Amanda

Amy Fakley
08-29-2014, 08:19 AM
For me it has always been backwards to that.

It began with the desire to feel like a girl. That desire comes from deep inside me and has been there almost as long as I can remember. Once you're aware that you're having feelings like that, what can you even do about it? Dressing like a girl is a thing I could do about it, and so from about age 8 or 9 that's what I started doing.

If somehow I'd never had the means and opportunity to dress in women's clothes for my entire life, the motivation to do so would always have been there.

In other words what I'm saying ... at least in my experience ... the clothes are the symptom, not the root cause.

Rachael Leigh
08-29-2014, 08:49 AM
For me I have to say I would not encourage this for anyone, it comes with a lot of outside issues. Its like smoking or something like that I would not recommenced that either. I dont smoke so that was just an example.

Kate Simmons
08-29-2014, 09:02 AM
Honestly, I would advise against it. It's not for the squeamish or faint of heart and doesn't really do a lot for familers generally as it's an individual experience. and if you are going to do it you need to be committed (open to interpretation :heehee:)If, however, a person really wanted to learn, I would be happy to share my experience but it would have to be their choice. Kind of like what we do on here. :battingeyelashes::)

Anna H
08-29-2014, 09:16 AM
Hmmm, i dunno. If i weren't this way, I'd be "normal"...according to the
um...conventional interpretation. That would be terrible...for me anyways.

I guess "normal" has it's merits, but it's *not* for me...lol!

Jenniferathome
08-29-2014, 09:31 AM
This isn't like golf or jogging or knitting, etc. Cross dressing is not something anyone would "try" without being a cross dresser. It holds no interest or reason for non-cross dressers. You might suggest to a deaf person the best Beatles album to listen to but that won't go too far.

Tiffany Jane
08-29-2014, 09:46 AM
I believe that whatever form of crossdressing a person takes, it comes from within. There are many mental and emotional obstacles to maneuver while finding ones' self without someone initiating these thoughts before knowing or understanding what they mean to themselves.

PaulaQ
08-29-2014, 10:00 AM
Actually, I've suggested crossdressing to a couple of people who appeared to be suffering from fairly serious gender dysphoria, but had never actually CDed. At minimum I'd suggested underdressing. They found it helpful in quelling some of the symptoms of their GD, or at least taking the edge off of them a bit. This wouldn't work for everyone, but if someone is telling you "I know I'm a woman, I'm going to transition," then why not help them along?

Katey888
08-29-2014, 10:19 AM
Jenny - I'm glad you said you probably wouldn't... I just cannot conceive of a circumstance where it would would be appropriate to do so (accepting Paula's points in very specific situations).

Isn't this a bit like: If you have to ask the price you really can't afford it...? As in: If you really don't have the feeling to understand why anyone would want to do this, you're just never really going to get it... (which is why the Muggles don't and the best we get is disinterest or guarded acceptance...)

Defo not the thing to go talking to strangers about... :eek:

Katey x

MsVal
08-29-2014, 10:27 AM
Just because I enjoy taking the contrarian point of view...

If you knew a fellow, perhaps a friend that seemed to have an unusual amount of interest in your crossdressing, and with an anxiety problem, would you explore the possibility that the fellow has a desire to crossdress? Would you help him discover his femininity? Would you help him through his struggles toward self acceptance? Or would you ignore his interest and anxiety, leaving him to deal with his issues alone?

kimdl93
08-29-2014, 10:43 AM
No. People don't do this out of curiosity. It's intrinsic in dour nature, whether it's revealed at 3 or 63.

Jocelyn Quivers
08-29-2014, 11:12 AM
I'm going not suggest it at all, nor recommend it to anyone. Even trying to look at situations where it could be recommend- Ex. Your friend needs motivation to lose weight, exercise diet. "I have a great idea you should should cross dress" "After being too big to fit into a dress, and especially once taking pictures of yourself in said dress." You'll get tremendous incentive to eat right and exercise!:battingeyelashes:. "What's that?" You have money burning a hole in your pocket and you want to know the quickest way to burn through all of it besides gambling, lotto, real estate, etc." "Cross-dressing and going on your very first shopping spree where you have to put together a matching outfit, shoes included" "Then you can invest thousands of dollars in permanent hair removal":thumbsup: "What's that you like living on the edge/ trying to live a secret double life worthy of a spy?" "Cross dressing my friend!" "Experience the rush of hiding your femme stuff from your wife/SO, along with the thrill of when your wife finds your hidden stash, along with silly excuses why you started shaving your legs!" :battingeyelashes: Fun Times!!!!:cheer:

Lorileah
08-29-2014, 11:26 AM
the question infers that this is something you do as a hobby or pastime. Did I miss the new agenda are we suppose to recruit again?

Renee Elise
08-29-2014, 12:00 PM
So my thoughts are that crossdressing is an EXCELLENT way for men to better understand the female side of things.
Walking down a street in a pair of heels and a dress and being objectified is quite an experience.
You realise just how vulnerable you are: you cant fight (very well), you can't run in the heels...
You need to be careful, use your head etc etc...
If every man did this I think we would start to see some different behaviours...
The longer and more you do this, the more 'in touch' I think you would get.
Fully agree Daniella...I wouldn't go out of my way to advocate it...but if someone were to ask me why I loved wearing women's clothes it would be all about the look and the feel...which you could only really appreciate if you tried it and got all made up and stuff. Looking like a sexy girl is just a phenomenal experience. Definitely not for everyone. Some of us have an innate sense of femininity woven in with our masculinity so it's just a part of us.

Isabella Ross
08-29-2014, 12:07 PM
I'm not TG because of any choice I made. I'm always skeptical of late bloomers who say that they started crossdressing on a whim late in life. CDs are born the way they are. So casually suggesting that someone "give it the old college try" just doesn't make sense. However, I only got past years of denial and self-punishment when a good friend turned out to be TG and helped me realize it wasn't the crime I thought it was. I wish I hadn't wasted so much time. In that respect, if I ever encounter someone who clearly has GD and needs a little help getting in touch, I'd jump in...gently, of course.

Allison Chaynes
08-29-2014, 12:15 PM
My best friend knows about Allison. He lives 2 states away. I did recommend he give it a try. Don't know if he has yet, but he admitted he's been to a few drag shows.

Teresa
08-29-2014, 12:28 PM
Jenny I wouldn't suggest anyone should try it if it's like my rollercoaster ride ! I don't see it as a hobby so I don't think you'd get people taking it up for that reason !

If we had totally open acceptance and someone asks what's it like ? I'd probably say try it and see !
I can list the disadvantages but when the good feelings hit I can't think of many things more enjoyable !

Princess Chantal
08-29-2014, 12:30 PM
Yes, I had suggested to a couple of friends to give crossdressing a shot. In which both of them enjoyed their experiences. One of which cemented plans to do it again at a couple annual events! In the local kink community, I had received many messages that my frequent sharing of the fun I have in my crossdressing has intrigued and inspired them (yes, men and women) to give it a shot.

NicoleScott
08-29-2014, 12:48 PM
Crossdressers need no introduction. The crossdressing gremlins have a way of finding us.
MsVal makes a case (post #19) for an exception to my general take on the matter, which is no, don't introduct others to CDing.

Angie G
08-29-2014, 12:48 PM
If asked me I would suggest they try it. I would even help them if they wish. Hay why not I wouldn't be forcing them to keep dressing.:hugs:
Angie

bridget thronton
08-29-2014, 02:41 PM
I agree - it is not lime recommending a movie or video game to someone. Encouraging someone to wear a dress on a lark does not support women or transgendered folks.

6inchheels
08-29-2014, 03:16 PM
Did you really just say that the Big Bang theory was nonsensical? I couldn't possibly take anything else you said seriously if I tried. That was a very smooth way to subject us to your weird religious opinions that we never saw coming though. I know it's easy to say that anything we don't understand was wizardry performed by Zeus or what not, but what's easy is not always right.

Wildaboutheels
08-29-2014, 04:10 PM
I think very few people have even the foggiest idea of how many search engines there are. There must be at least 50 or 60 here if not 100.

http://www.thesearchenginelist.com/

Google alone lists over 25 pages using the word CROSSDRESSERS. Multiple companies/sites are not manufacturing and selling canoe sized high heels to women. Nor are they only selling a few hundred or a few thousand pairs. Even web sites with practically no overhead can't stay in business that way.

This site is only one of at least multiple dozens if not hundreds. I asked in a biker thread how many bikers here participated in any motorcycle Forums and got the expected response.

An OPEN mind, coupled with even a rudimentary knowledge of the birds and the bees and some simple extrapolation based on the available evidence puts the number of men who CD at least occasionally at double digits at the very least. The true # will never be known but it's immaterial anyway. Others here will insist it's only 1 percent or less. All the numbers that this site offers in so many places don't support that estimate at all.

^^^ Meaning you probably already have at least a few friends who CD, maybe some regularly at HOME and are happy to keep it private. Like 99% of the CDers on the planet. Few of them are going to be interested in "full presentation" or going out or discussing it in any manner.

I would not suggest it to anyone unless they do the same type workout I do which is extremely unlikely. Most folks have no reason to ask why because it's obvious.

Kris Avery
08-29-2014, 08:32 PM
This isn't like golf or jogging or knitting, etc. Cross dressing is not something anyone would "try" without being a cross dresser. It holds no interest or reason for non-cross dressers. You might suggest to a deaf person the best Beatles album to listen to but that won't go too far.

I'm still laughing at that 10 minutes later :o

Jenniferathome
08-29-2014, 09:33 PM
...So my thoughts are that crossdressing is an EXCELLENT way for men to better understand the female side of things.
...

Certainly written from a cross dresser's point of view. If I sit on a horse, do I know what a cowboy's life is like? No, of course not. No one is defined by a hat or dress or shoes. A "normal" who cross dresses will not experience anything that a woman experiences. They'll just feel weird.

karens70
08-30-2014, 03:47 AM
I have to agree with the girls that say this isnt like suggesting you should try sushi for the first time! you are either a cd or not... if you 'try it' and find its for you, then its highly likely you have always had this tendency but just not acted upon it! As much as i enjoy it i am not sure i would have selected it as a hobby by 'choice' :-)

noeleena
08-30-2014, 06:50 AM
Hi,

My Mom dressed me in some lovely dress,s , I was allso dressed by two women and 3 others well 5 of us , for a end of year do for our church in 1958-9 my Mom was there as well and over 80 people dressed to the hilt, makeup and all . we did a mime and it went down well ,

i still had make up on when i went back after to the main hall, .to watch the other s do thier bit and supper of cause ,

it never triggered any thing in me , to wont to start dressing i was never bothered at all ,in fact it never entered my head at all ,

What i should have done was wear our Clans Tartan = Kilt, just we did not know the colours I do now of cause so i may be able to have one sent from Scotland since we dont have them here,

...noeleena...

Jenny Elwood
08-30-2014, 07:00 AM
6inchheels congrats on being the first (and only one) to take the bait. And thank you for making my point by calling that which you seem to believe in a theory. Just because something is promoted in the popular media does not make it right either. Now let's agree to disagree, I don't want my thread deleted.

To everyone else thank you all for your inputs. I do agree, you are either a crossdresser or not, no amount of suggestion could make you one. I agree with Val and Paula that the only persons worthwile to suggest it to is those who seem to suffer from some form of GID in order to provide relief. The so-called "late starters". So don't worry, I'm not going to start running around suggesting it to people randomly.

Have a great (rest of the) weekend people, it's Jenny night tonight!

BillieAnneJean
08-30-2014, 07:56 AM
I discovered CDing as we know it less than two years ago. Before that I never gave it a thought except maybe once every five years thinking that I bet that fabric would feel good or something on that order. I discovered CDing as we know it, meaning really looking like a woman, while searching for a place for my CO to get glamor photos taken. NOT searching for CD makeover. I found it completely by accident. Just by searching "glamor photographs".

I told my wife before I started CDing that the makeover like fun. That I would like to try it. I asked her blessing.

So I would absolutely recommend that every guy try this because:
It is an escape from the confines society places on men.
The process of transforming myself is rewarding in itself.
The hunt for coordinating wardrobe items in places like GWs is fun.
The assembling of outfits is a creative outlet.
The fabrics feel good.
The bare skin on the stockings is sublime.
The earrings are fun especially heavy large ones.
The shoes are an experience all their own.
The long nails are a handicap you don't understand until you have them.
The shoes are a handicap you don't understand until you have to submit to them.
Having a purse to carry things is great.
The women's dressy outfits/shoes/makeup/nails/hair/earrings all are a handicap over the ease that men have in guy mode.
While CDing we become much more aware of the dangers and inability to defend ourselves while handicapped with the nails, exposed legs not protected by pants, heels preventing flight or secure footing.
I now understand the things that women must deal with in their everyday lives. I appreciated my SO even more than before.

Yes I recommend this to every guy as long as he is truthful to his SO and does not cause harm by letting anything take precedence over them. Every guy needs to learn that being a woman and looking great is a lot of work and some sacrifices. Yet being a woman and looking great has some benefits. It is a tradeoff.

This is just too much FUN to not do it.

flatlander_48
08-30-2014, 08:43 AM
If there was someone with whom I had more than a passing relationship and I knew that they were struggling with gender issues, I might raise the notion of crossdressing. However, it would be closely followed by talking about my thoughts and experiences and a strong suggestion to see a therapist. I can't see any other circumstances and probably wouldn't say anything even in jest.

Katey888
08-30-2014, 12:41 PM
Billie Anne - I adore your enthusiasm with all things CD, I hope you know I do, but I read your post here and my first thought was: "That is probably the barmiest suggestion I've seen on cd.com yet..." :facepalm:

To want recommend this to every guy is just... indescribably... something... :doh: Pick any 'universally' accepted male pastime and you will always find a significant percentage of males who hate and loathe it, be it football, motor sports, boxing, drinking beer, cricket, rugby.. whatever... because none of those things are truly universal.

But you're suggesting that every 'joe soap' might respond well to benefit examples like:


The process of transforming myself is rewarding in itself.
The hunt for coordinating wardrobe items in places like GWs is fun.
The assembling of outfits is a creative outlet.
The fabrics feel good.
The bare skin on the stockings is sublime.
The earrings are fun especially heavy large ones.
The shoes are an experience all their own.
Having a purse to carry things is great.


:eek: Well I'd like to see the response from a standard set of a thousand random males to those suggestions...

And I think this point is the 'why' it's good for you:

I discovered CDing as we know it less than two years ago. Before that I never gave it a thought except maybe once every five years thinking that I bet that fabric would feel good or something on that order.
You 'never gave it a thought' but actually you did have those latent feelings going back some way... I'd suggest those feelings are what we all experience to some degree and are what put us - whether mildly or severely - all under the TG banner... Those feelings are innate for you, even though latent for decades - for 95%+ of males they are just not there...

However - not to throw out the thought of pushing envelopes - I think your final points have a lot of merit...

Yes I recommend this to every guy as long as he is truthful to his SO and does not cause harm by letting anything take precedence over them. Every guy needs to learn that being a woman and looking great is a lot of work and some sacrifices. Yet being a woman and looking great has some benefits. It is a tradeoff.

This is just too much FUN to not do it.
Because I think most of us do appreciate what it takes and that should lead to a better understanding and relationship with our other halves - I'm sure it has for me, even in my closeted state... but I just can't see it being a popular idea with the other 95% and I for one would not want to be the one to suggest it... ;)

Katey x

Deedee Skyblue
08-30-2014, 01:30 PM
I suggested to one of my female friends once that she get her husband a baby doll nightie but she dismissed the idea.

Deedee

sherri
08-30-2014, 01:32 PM
I can't see myself ever being comfortable proselytizing because of all the attendant issues and trade-offs. I'm particularly sensitive about it with young people. That said, I think just about all of us who interact with others online or in person have experiences with curious types, and I've found the majority of them are interested in some sort of experimentation of their own -- in other words, the curiosity isn't all that idle. If I suspect it's just a sexual thrill thing, which isn't uncommon, then my attitude is sure, why not, go ahead and try on those panties, but I'm not really interesting in engaging at that level if that's all there is to it. On the other hand, when I detect deeper interest or need, I don't try to dissuade them because I understand the itch, but I do go out of my way to help them grasp a few things before they head down the primrose path --


It's a much bigger undertaking than most realize. One thing leads to another and there's a big learning curve, not to mention no small investment of time, energy and resources. Of course most of the process is interesting and enjoyable, but IME most wannabes are a little stunned at what all is involved. And btw, about that learning curve -- it isn't just about how to do makeup, hon. No matter how young or old you are, I can almost guarantee you're going to learn some things about yourself you may not have expected.
If there really is a femme person inside, once you unlock her it's hardly ever possible to put Pandora back in the box and keep her there. What's more, it's a challenge to maintain equilibrium and perspective once the gurl gets a toehold.
There is a great deal of social stigma involved and you have to take that into account when visualizing what being femme will be like in the real world. This isn't an insurmountable situation by any means, but there are trade-offs involved and your eyes need to be wide open.
Once he/she understands that some discretion is required, if she is still inclined to buy in, I encourage her to not be unduly intimidated by the world, and to experience her femme self as fully and socially as her circumstances and common sense allow.
If there is a marriage, family or SO in the picture and I suspect there could be any dishonesty, infidelity or irresponsible conduct going on, count me out, end of conversation, adios. I'm not going to be a party to that.

This sounds like I go through some long diatribe whenever I get asked about CDing, but I usually allow the other person's questions and comments to guide how much or how little needs to be touched upon.

6inchheels
08-30-2014, 07:53 PM
Jenny: I want to apologize that my post sounded so chippy. I was at work and my job stresses me out. As far as the use of the word "theory", of course it's a theory. Anyone who thinks they are certain how the universe came into being terrifies me. With that, I will tip toe away from the subject. This is a nice thread and I don't want to distract anymore.
Best regards,
Heels

BillieAnneJean
08-30-2014, 09:03 PM
Katey888,
Nope. It wasn't something latent in me. I do it for fun. If I had not found that website, it would have never occurred to me.

Thinking that a fabric would feel good every five years or so is hardly a latent desire. A comedian on the Tonight show once said that his fantasy was to jump in a swimming pool filled with grapes while he was naked. I thought that might feel good. But it didn't make me a vinter or wine maker, even though I thought about that more than once every five years. Actually every time I went through the produce section. But I went by the women's clothing section and hosiery probably as many times and only considered the feeling of the fabric as I was caressing my wife when she was wearing some dress or nightgown. And that was brief and interrupted and overwhelmed by thoughts of how good it was going to be putting myself inside another kind of outerwear. And that was maybe every five years. Hardly a latent desire.

This latent desire thing may apply to some but it doesn't apply to all of us.

It certainly didn't apply to me. I do this purely for fun. Some day when I can't do it well, I will stop. With a smile on my face that it was fun while it lasted and my life is richer for the experience.

And every guy should try it. Yes unless he is a serial killer, a homophobic who can't possibly consider it, and all the other obvious exceptions, that we can find if we dig enough or want to be precise enough, beyond the generalities of my post.

But nowhere in my post does it say that that every guy will respond well. That is your idea, not mine.

No some guys may well have a need for counseling, some might have nightmares, some may find things about themselves that they didn't want to find. But maybe there would be one or two out of thousands who says that it was fun while t lasted and his life became richer because he crossdressed. Someone like me.

So I would suggest that every guy try it, excepting those who may be irreversibly harmed by it. If that is possible.

And thank you for your thoughts, opinions, and the way you put them down. It shows that you are a real classy gal.

I am STILL having SUCH FUN!
Billie

Dana3
08-30-2014, 10:24 PM
No. Its either something that your not so much (IMHO) born with, but have an inclination toward? To suggest such to someone who isn't inclined toward it, would be to have them look as though your were from another Dimension if not Universe.

Most things Human, fall along a spectrum ~ sexuality, intelligence, sexual orientation, communication skills, emotions, dealing with emotions, math skills, mechanical aptitude, a natural aptitude toward art, drawing, sculpting, writing, speaking, oral skills, cooking, gardening, the list is literally endless? There are those of us that are stupid in one area, but genesis in others. Idiot Savants are a classical example ~ aka "Rain Man" with Dustin Hoffman and Tom Hanks.

I've a autistic granddaughter, and although she's only three, non verbal she's a brilliant child beyond years. Anyone who takes the time to learn about autism and such will find that they're not "Retarded" its that they're beyond the standard norm? There is a spectrum for autism, and some that are autistic gone on to complete not only high school, but college, write, create, etc.

When you take the "streams" of spectrum and combine them together? You end up with something more akin to a "Rubic's Cube" (to use a 3D model ~ if you extend it to a greater multi-dimensional level it can and does become more complex to grasp and comprehend) The simplest way of expressing this is that "We're the more than the sum total of our parts?"


Katey888,
Nope. It wasn't something latent in me. I do it for fun. If I had not found that website, it would have never occurred to me.

...

I am STILL having SUCH FUN!
Billie

And it is FUN! Girls just want to have fun, why should we limit ourselves to being put into and confined to a box to be checked off?

There was one time when I turned cautioned to the wind and went on a shopping spree for myself ~ as Dana, ~ and it was SO much fun and with that I really understood why women so much enjoy going shopping, ~ not just to buy things, but to just look, see, feel, experience.

CherylFlint
08-31-2014, 12:36 AM
I don't think there's, like, a choice in the matter.
The need to dress is just way too strong to repress or ignore.
People have asked me the same thing: Why do I dress?
I just say "That's just who I really am, if you want to know the truth".
So asking a person who IS a crossdresser, that be like opening the dike. Be good for them. They know all about it, anyway.
And as far as a straight person, well, different strokes for different folks. It's one of those things like, "You have to be there" to understand it all.
Actually, we're a real minority and NOBODY understands us except us.

Tinkerbell-GG
08-31-2014, 05:07 AM
I think for many, such a suggestion would be dismissed outright and they wouldn't think of it again. I think for a few others, the same suggestion would be equally dismissed but would linger a little longer than anticipated. It might even fester there, slowly growing a life of its own. I mean, after all, this crossdressing stuff is ATROCIOUS, they'll think. Why would I do such a thing?? I'll be a laughing stock...yet, it's sort of exciting. I know, I should try it, just to make sure I really do hate it. That'll end this once and for all. Dressing will dull these thoughts.

And so it continues...

Suggestions can hold power so I don't recommend you send anyone else down the rabbit hole, Jenny, just in case the genetics theory turns out to be wrong. :)

Anna H
08-31-2014, 05:19 AM
Well, after reading all this the last few days, I've been subliminally
convinced to give it a try.

What luck! I have dresses, shoes, makeup, jewelry, perfume....all right
on hand! lol!

sometimes_miss
08-31-2014, 09:40 AM
CDs are born the way they are.
Please don't make the mistake that so many others do. No, not all of us are born crossdressers. Perhaps it was for you, I don't know. But I know that was not the case for me, and from that, I suppose that there are others who weren't 'born crossdressers' either.

So regarding the initial question, no, I would not recommend crossdressing to anyone who hasn't already done it. Only those who have crossdressed in the past, and tried to stop, with adverse reactions from forcing themselves to abstain from crossdressing, would benefit from returning to that behavior. Suppressing any type of naturally felt behavior is stressful, sometimes to the point of interfering with every other part of our lives. I've felt that; I've been in the situation where stopping myself from crossdressing was so all encompassing that I couldn't think straight about anything else. So if another person was in that state, then yes, I would recommend that they crossdress at least until they can think clearly again.

Rachel05
08-31-2014, 09:50 AM
My cross dressing is part of me, i has been part of me for most of my life, I don't understand why I do it, but I long since stopped caring and just embraced the joy and pleasure it gives me, but it is just part of who I am and therefore I couldn't see myself suggesting it to anyone else because I couldn't tell them why I do it, just that I enjoy it immensely and without question, I think it is a very personal thing