HRT and libido?

[whowhatwhen]

I'm going to be blunt here.
After 19 weeks it hasn't really changed much and I'm friggin' horny more often than I'd like.

Is that a sign that my T levels may be too high?
I know that having a libido is a normal, healthy thing and I'm not angry about having one, I'd just like it to tone itself down a little bit.

[LeaP]

Everyone is different. Mine pretty much tanked within weeks with starting dosages. I started with high T levels and they dropped by half, but that did it.

[Angela Campbell]

Mine went to nothing for a while then has gone way up, but in a different way than ever before

[Aimee20]

It really all depends, trying to gauge hrt results in weeks is too nerve wracking though, the results are best measured in years

[whowhatwhen]

I know that's a fact for physical appearance changes but it's so common to read about HRT chopping down someone's libido, I kinda thought it would have happened by now.

[Kathryn Martin]

My libido went down then up then down. After SRS it came back but very different.....

[I Am Paula]

The only problem with my libido is...I can't find it.
Luckily, I haven't needed it.

[Leah Lynn]

I'm in total agreement with Paula. It was strong when I started hrt, but after a year, No libido; No need...

Leah

[Megan G]

My libido never completely went away but has been drastically reduced. A much welcome change from pre hrt levels.

Megan

[whowhatwhen]

In all fairness I don't want it to go away since it's a normal and healthy thing to have, I was just curious as to why it hasn't toned down a bit yet.

[KellyJameson]

OMG, I know I should be sensitive to your plight but the way you worded your thread gave me a bad case of the giggles.

There are advantages to having a high libido if GRS is on the horizon because you are more likely to come out of it with the ability to orgasm so there is a silver lining, if that makes you feel any better.


One thing you can try is reducing your dietary fat intake and increasing your fiber but check with your doctor first because it will knock down your T levels and may affect your dosage.

Diet impacts libido and there are a number of natural ways to reduce it.

[whowhatwhen]

Thank you!
I needed a reason to increase my fibre intake and reduce the fats for other reasons, this is just a side bonus :D

Interestingly enough I never really had any real orgasms until I started HRT and had the help of Mr. Hitachi.
;)

[Nicole Erin]

The reason your libido hasn't went down is probably more about your younger age than anything. That and all the pr0n websites you may be frequenting.
If you are wanting your libido to slow down, hang up a bunch of pictures of Hilary Clinton. That will help you lose weight too cause she is icky.

And also, who is Mr Hitachi? Is that someone at the massage shop who offers a happy ending?

[LeaP]

I thought maybe it had something to do with power tools or something ... takes all types.

[whowhatwhen]

Hillary is hot, I find the ability to raise large segments of the population into a pool of anger very sexy.
:P

As for the other thing, well... I'll leave that to google XD

I am liking the fibre idea though, anything else?

[I Am Paula]

The problem with googling Hitachi, is they DO make power tools, heavy equipment, cranes, front end loaders, and the like. Your readers may think you're up to something REALLY weird.

[Rachel Smith]

Mine changed in about 3 months. It's not completely in the tank. It no longer has a mind of it's own. It is no longer a driving force in my life. It just doesn't matter now, orgasm though is out of the equation.

[whowhatwhen]

The problem with googling Hitachi, is they DO make power tools, heavy equipment, cranes, front end loaders, and the like.

No comment...

The best way to describe the feeling is this:

Body: "So.... *nudge* *nudge* you wanna?"
Brain: IT'S 2 IN THE MORNING FOR GODS SAKE LET ME SLEEP!

Inconvenient is a good word to describe how it is at the moment.

[Rianna Humble]

who is Mr Hitachi? Is that someone at the massage shop who offers a happy ending?


I thought maybe it had something to do with power tools or something ... takes all types.


I'll leave that to google XD


The problem with googling Hitachi, is they DO make power tools, heavy equipment, cranes, front end loaders, and the like.

Don't forget that Hitachi also make nuclear power stations :devil: now that would be really weird! :confused2:

[sandra-leigh]

Theoretical sex still has a non-trivial place in my life. The physical side sleeps most of the time, and rarely wakes up for visuals anymore.

Analogy: the physical side is as if I had already had sex several times that day and it feels pretty doubtful that there is anything left, where even a partner doing a strip lap dance seems unlikely to result in a stir. But if someone bothered to work on it for a while, there might be one more short round left... most days not.

[DeeDee1974]

The interest is still there only less often. One thing that has not changed is that I still want someone else to initiate. And if I actually had someone there to initiate I would probably want it more often. But since I don't have anyone at the moment I am happy to have less of a libido.

[whowhatwhen]

Don't forget that Hitachi also make nuclear power stations :devil: now that would be really weird! :confused2:

There's a joke in there about inserting control rods into the core but we'll just leave that be...

^^^^^^^^
That's what's not fair.
I've literally lost zero in libido and functionality in just under 5 months while others get some relief within weeks.

[Marleena]

I'm not sure what's wrong with me but I'm going to ask a serious question here... Are you on any type of T-blocker?

[sandra-leigh]

My libido went down dramatically as soon as I decided that Yes, I was definitely going to go ahead with HRT. The mechanics still worked at the time, but random arousals and internal feeling of "need" to exercise the mechanics went far down. Even "morning wood" cut way back. This was before even a single dose. The psychological is pretty powerful.

I did go through anti-androgens. Spiro did dampen the mechanics a fair bit. I think cypro did more in that regard. I was not on finesteride long enough to give an opinion on it.

I have been off of anti-androgens for about a year now. The urge sometimes builds up over time, even as moment to moment the mechanics are pretty quiet. My testosterone levels are more or less self regulating even when I skip my estrogen patches for a while.

I can't say if there is still any sperm being produced, or what its motility or viability would be. I can say that there is more than just pre-***, but in much smaller quantities than original.

My speculation is that if I were in a sexual relationship that involved the equipment that my libido would probably increase, and the volume would probably increase as well. With no prospects in sight for... years, maybe... the subsystems are turned down.

[whowhatwhen]

I'm not sure what's wrong with me but I'm going to ask a serious question here... Are you on any type of T-blocker?

Yep. I'm taking Spiro now and as of my last endo visit in July(?June?) my T had dropped quite a bit.

[StephanieC]

Yes. Mine has been zero for quite some time

[Marleena]

Ah, okay! I thought you were going to go down in the anals of history as having a spiro resistant third leg.:heehee:

Sounds like you might still need an adjustment with the spiro. Glad I don't have that problem but it seems you found a temporary solution anyways (hitachi).:)

[whowhatwhen]

Just an interesting side note:
The libido still hasn't dropped, yet tissue shrinkage has begun, boners are a little bit painful now but I still get randoms.

Not complaining (much), it's just an interesting effect.

[DebbieL]

This is a really tricky question to answer without getting too graphic or too explicit. On the other hand, it's a very legitimate question that requires some very specific information that you can't describe in pretty poetry. Hopefully, no one will be upset.

I found that my libido did drop a bit, but in many ways that was a relief. Male arousal and even orgasms were often filled with frustration and despair. Even a rush of lust would caught in a swirl of "I want her, I want to look like her, I want to BE her", then the despair of "knowing" it wasn't possible. When a partner would try to seduce me like a boy, it was so painful I would have to tell them, often forcefully, to stop. I could please them, but if they treated me like a man, I actually got turned off. I was also very short, under 4" (erect) in my twenties and smaller before and after.

With hormones, I didn't get those rushes of lust, but I could get aroused when I wanted to. Furthermore, as my breasts grew, especially once I had B cups, the wiring changed, and I could get very easily aroused when I or my partner played with my breasts. In addition, I'm even shorter, smaller than my thumb erect, and pretty much flat otherwise, which works out pretty well for me, no tucking required.

Stimulation to orgasm takes longer, and I find that my hitachi "magic wand" helps, but they build slowly, with lots of little orgasms on the way, and eventually some that get incredibly intense, much more like female orgasms. In addition, Lee, my wife, has introduced me to orgasms from breast play only, which is very incredible.

Hormones change your neurology in hundreds of subtle ways, and make your nervous system more feminine. Erections are really soft, not useful for sexual intercourse. If the idea of ED freaks you out, you should think twice about hormones. if you really want that part to keep working, the doctor can give you different options, but they will slow and limit transition. In some clinics it could even be an indicator that you should NOT go on hormones.

You will need to get used to the idea that your erogenous zones will be different, things that weren't that great before feel incredible now (breast play, prostate play, anal, ...) while things that you previously may have liked (intercourse, penile stimulation, ...) will be difficult if not impossible, and possibly even painful. This can actually be helpful in preparing you for vaginoplasty, as well.

It's hard to explain to someone who still has boy parts and testosterone flooding the body what it is like to have your testosterone shut off and have your body at estrogen levels that are normal for a healthy girl - a teenager for the transition period. A normal healthy cis-gender man would think of it as his worst nightmare, and even most cross-dressers would crinng and maybe even freak out entirely at the prospect, but if you are a transsexual, and you can embrace the femininity along with the breasts, you will absolutely love the amazing ways your body changes. In fact, playing and experimenting sexually and exploring your feminine side will help you be more comfortable with your feminine sexuality as it develops.

Too many girls try to shut themselves off sexually, thinking that they have to give up sex to be feminine. Often, this can cause some great distress and suffering that doesn't have to be endured at all.

[whowhatwhen]

I'm not worried about it losing function, in fact I've lost none at all.
It's just a bit weird how I get slight bonerpains now yet no loss in libido, kinda weird imho.

Nips are numb, no sensation whatsoever.
From what I've read that mostly comes with progesterone.

[Aprilrain]

I've been on hormones since February of 11. My libido has been all over the map. Just now I it's a medium to medium high. I'm sure my T levels have gone up some because I dropped my E a bit (I was getting migraines). I'm scheduled for SRS in 3 weeks so I'm not going to worry about my T level, I assume it will naturally adjust downward after surgery. In fact my Dr sometimes prescribes T to help jump start ones libido after surgery.

I know this is a little off topic but it's related. I seem to be at my "best" when my T is up a little, like higher than your average female but still well below the range for males. What I mean is I get less depressed, feel less flat emotionally and enjoy and want sex more often. Oh and I get far fewer migraines.

[whowhatwhen]

Yeah, I remember reading that GGs need an amount of T to function normally as well but I'm not sure about the specifics.
I see the endo on the 20th so I can ask him what my levels are, I did the bloodwork for it yesterday so it should be ready by then.

[Leah Lynn]

13 months on hrt, and my libido is MIA... It's been missing for more than six months, anyway.

Leah

[MarieTS]

Can I assume you are also on a T blocker? If not, that probably needs to be your next step.

[Rachel Smith]

Too many girls try to shut themselves off sexually, thinking that they have to give up sex to be feminine. Often, this can cause some great distress and suffering that doesn't have to be endured at all.

I made no conscious effort to shut myself off it just sort of happened. I used to be very sexual but now it is rare that I even think of it and when I do it is just a fleeting thought that lasts maybe 30 seconds. It's like I have no feeling left even a Hatachi has no magic for me :sad: . I used to enjoy nipple stimulation a lot now it does nothing for me. I have had some shrinkage since starting hormones but not a lot. I don't really miss the intercourse part but I certainly miss the feeling of an orgasm. GRAPHIC ALERT! I used to enjoy sex with men and women now I just don't have a desire for it with either it has gone from pleasure to work.

At 59 how much of this is due to age I don't know as I have never been this old before :D

[whowhatwhen]

Can I assume you are also on a T blocker? If not, that probably needs to be your next step.

Been on it since before I started E.
When I went up in my dose of spiro it went down for a few weeks but then returned to where it was.

But yeah, the image of bongos at a drum circle comes to mind.

..Shou-should I be moisturizing it to help with skin elasticity to reduce the discomfort?

[MarieTS]

Excellent advice Debbie: Thanks!

April, mones since only Feb., and srs already? Wow! I also had an intermediate T boost as well, with somewhat similar rwesults.. Good luck with your Op. will keep U in prayers!