Litmus test - four questions

[Krististeph]

I acknowledge this is an unscientific inquiry.

The band Rush has probably one of the higher ratio of male fans.

Ergo, one might assume the 'average' CD will like the band less than men as a whole.

1 So, do you identify with CD TG TS or other specification?

2 Do you like Rush?

3 Why or why not?

4 Do you thing your gender identity has any influence on the music you listen to?

extra credit (??) Can you thing of a male band that is divided along the lines of conventional genetic gender?

Me:
(1):TG
(2):very
(3):excellent lyrics, music, and voice- second or third perhaps only to Brad Delp or Freddie Mercury,
(4): No. I love the energy, fun, and conviction of the band,
(ec): Ultravox (+female)? Journey(+female)? Devo(+male)?

[Tiffany Jane]

CD, I have heard of Rush, couldn't tell you what they sing, I believe music is more a reflection of what we were listening to as kids and what emotion we want to have portrayed in our day to day lives. I like classic country, southern/classic Rock, pre-pop country (80's through 90's). So I would assess from this, that I must have more to explore in my cding adventure since I have heard of Rush, but couldn't tell you if I have listened to them.

[Tiffany Jane]

Now I have to go and find out what they sung. Will keep you posted if I am converted.

Oh! That Rush. I have listened to their songs and enjoy them, but never knew who sung them. They always reminded me of Fleetwood Mac or Heart. So, cding is just something I enjoy. Not something influenced by my listening choices.

[Emi_]

My wife likes football and prefers pants. Does that make her TG? There is no definition of what is definitely 'male' or 'female.' Even trends and preferences are not absolute indicators of any particular gender orientation. I never liked playing with dolls growing up, but my niece liked playing with trucks. I am TG and my niece is happily a typical teenage girl now. It is, however, a very male characteristic to categorize and label behaviors, something many cross-dressers seem very pre-occupied with as if marking all the right boxes will make everything better.

[Isabella Ross]

I view myself as being somewhere on the transgendered scale.

I am Canadian. Therefore I LOVE Rush.

Why do I see myself as transgendered? I love to feel and look pretty. I think that's pretty much TG. Why do I love Rush? Because I'm Canadian...and because they are the best three man rock band ever (sorry, ZZ Top fans).

Gender effect on music? None.

[PaulaQ]

1) I'm a woman.
2) Yes, I like Rush.
3) They were popular when I was young, all my friends liked them, so I liked them too.
4) No, my gender identity has no influence on my musical tastes. Indeed, out of all the myriad things about me that have changed since I started transition, my taste in music hasn't changed one iota.

[Krististeph]

My wife likes football and prefers pants.

Understood. IMO it makes her a real person.

I'm just wondering if the BSTc region associated with CD/TS has an effect on music taste. It may be too complex of a question to distill, but it never stopped me from asking.

Thanks for replying!

k

[Allison Chaynes]

1. Yes
2. No
3. Don't care for their singer's voice
4. No
EC: Toadies had a female bassist for a few years.

[typhoidmary]

listening to the first Rush song that youtube came up with... it's definitely not my thing. I like some prog and can see the appeal but a lot of it feels a bit on the pretentious side for me, Rush included. My gender doesn't affect my music taste, I just like what I like, artists whose music I find beautiful, or relatable. that said I love a lot of the early 90's sadcore/slowcore bands (red house painters, codeine etc) and wouldn't be surprised if a lot of them weren't mostly listened to by depressed male 20 somethings... definitely a demographic I belong to.

[Katey888]

Excellent unscientific start to my evening... :)

I had listened to them donkey's years ago but YT popped up Xanadu and La Villa Strangiato as a quick reminder... (No, the former nothing to do with ONJ, Aussies... ;)) They're a bit like Yes or E.L.P. and also of that era... so to address your questions (which always seem to escape some respondees - I guess these are the folk that spoil ballot papers too... :doh:)

1: CD/TG
2: Hmmm... they're OK - very like Yes I'd say, but I'd probably prefer something like Deep Purple or Hawkwind from that era... :)
3: Why - similarities to other bands of that era
4: No - I listen to a huge range from rock, through folk, R&B, blues, jazz to classical and opera
ec: I imagine most of the neo-nazi skinhead bands might have a predominantly male following... :eek: (and are probably not recommended venues for us folk... :))

Katey x
3:

[Nadine Spirit]

1 - TG
2 - Yes very much so
3 - An amazing amount of music put out by only 3 guys. I like their originality as well.
4 - No. But potentially as I view myself as more open minded than any of my friends and my musical interests are far more diverse than anyone I know.
EC - nope

[Zylia]

Male transgender cross-dresser, but not a huge fan of Rush. I do like a lot of guy music though, including King Crimson, Pink Floyd and (a tad heavier and not as old) Opeth. I am my gender identity and I am my musical preference. They're obviously connected but it's not like I choose to listen to certain kinds of music because I happen to be a guy.

[Brianna_H]

LOL. I just watched the Rush biographical film last night. Great band.

1. TG, but I'm still sorting this out. Had my first therapy session today.

2. Yes! Love them.

3. thoughtful lyrics, awesome musicianship, sweet guys. Great band.

4. It must have. I bonded very early with metal music. Started playing guitar when I was 14 and really enjoy music with virtuosity. I've also always loved women singers and folk music. I've joked that I have a bi-polar musical taste, metal and folk. I see a bit of that as an expression of my non-standard gender identity.

5. My Chemical Romance. Evanescence. Queens of the Stone Age. Avenged Sevenfold has a strong female audience for a metal band. I think more gothic music in general has a broader appeal. Bauhaus anyone? Love Peter Murphy.

[LilSissyStevie]

1. Queer
2. Meh
3. Progrock is just background noise to me
4. No

[PattiL]

1 CD/TG

2 No

3 Just not my thing

4 Yes, I listen to many singers/bands that I don't think I would otherwise (Lady Gaga, etc...)

[iGenny]

(1) CD
(2) Yes
(3) Music, Geddy Lee's vocals
(4) No

[Adriana Moretti]

1 So, do you identify with CD TG TS or other specification? CD

2 Do you like Rush? Ehh...they are good...they were the first band I ever saw in concert , but have not listened to them in 20 years.

3 Why or why not? Neil Pert is a pretty awesome drummer

4 Do you thing your gender identity has any influence on the music you listen to? Kinda sorta...those here who know me know its part of my dayjob to be a musical nerd and a guru of useless musical information...but I like and listen to everything...I have to...while dressed though it def gets a bit more femme though.

extra credit (??) Can you thing of a male band that is divided along the lines of conventional genetic gender?
IMO Music has no gender....Only guys like Rush cause well...have you listened to rush? LOL......It's Nerd Rock.


Put nails in the loop holes of your boots and kick someone !

[darla_g]

Very unscientific method i'm afraid. For myself, i like Rush but I've never felt that stuff i like as a guy needs to go away just because i like to dress up in women's clothes from time to time. Conversely the only influence my dresssing has on my musical choices is perhaps a tendency to more female oriented music. Joan Armatrading is one example.

[Michelle colson]

1. CD
2. No
3. Don't like the lead singers voice and don't like the lyrics.
4. Maybe.
I am a big rock fan,everything from Zeppelin to Metallica but also enjoy bands that are normally called chic bands. Paramore is my favorite current rock band and I also have artists like Katy perry in my iTunes. I don't know if I like these "chick bands" because I'm a cd or not but I do know none of my guy friends admit to liking Katy perry or Kelly clarksen.

[Michelle789]

1. I'm a woman
2. I never heard of Rush.
3. I would have to go to youtube and try listening to some of their music to see if I like Rush or not.
4. I don't think gender has anything to do with the type of music you listen to.

I believe our musical tastes are a reflection of what kind of music we grew up listening to, and is always subject to change. I generally like soft rock, easy listening, disco, and I like a mix of oldies and modern music.
A few artists I like are Lionel Richie, The Beatles, David Bowie, Katy Perry, The Four Tops, Foreigner, Sara Bareilles, Ellie Goulding, The Spinners, Paul McCartney, TuPac.

[Marcelle]

Hi Krististeph . . . here goes:

1. TG

2. I like Rush but would not say I love them.

3. Like the sound and besides as a Canadian I have to say I at least like them.

4. No, my taste in music is quite eclectic and has not changed

Not going to try for extra credit.

Hugs

Isha

[LilSissyStevie]

I might add that if Ricky, Julian and Bubbles like Rush, they can't be all bad.

[Dana does shopping]

1. TG/TS
2. Yes
3. Because "his mind is not for rent for any God or Government".
4. Yes & No Love bands that play it hard & adore Feist & Sara McLaughlin ...
Depeche Mode, Bowie & The Cure have us all thinking twice ... three times ...

[Bria]

1. CD/TG

2. Never heard of them

3. NA

4.

Classical music is my favorite, also like classical jazz New Orleans style and some bluegrass.

Hugs, Bria

[Sarah Doepner]

CD
Never spent much time listening to them
I fell for bands in the previous generation and then branched out to other types of music, jazz, classical, blues, bluegrass, etc. Kind of missed most of the Rush era bands.
My gender identity has little to do with my taste in music, although I do occasionally find k.d.lang to be a wonderful listen as I get ready to go out. Some bands or songs can get me a little more in the mood, if that makes sense.

[mykell]

ok
mikell:
1- CD/TG
2- saw them 13 times, 3rd row one time and watching geddy play bass, sing, use foot pedals simultaneously was awesome.
3- hung out with friends who played in garage band, was never about the singing to me then, it was the musical talent more for me. some bands got by knowing three cords. La Villa Strangiato is my favorite rush tune, the backwards bass riff was cool.
4-my music varies from ELP, stevie wonder, black sabbath, i wish kelly clarkson would front a rock band, shakira, Evanescence, pink floyd, yes, kid rock has some very nicely engineered albums, michael jacksons dirty diana, prince, quite a mix now that i typed that up. just like what i like.
ec, nope, tired of typing...

[Samantha Clark]

I'll play, FWIW.

1. CD.
2. Huh, who?
3. Umm, who are we talking about? Not the Limbaugh variety I hope...
4. Nope, pretty sure gender identity has no influence on music tastes.

[JamieG]

1) CD, and therefore TG too
2) Yes
3) Music is original. Pert has written some of the smartest rock lyrics I've ever heard. Favorite songs include Subdivisions (which is very relevant to our crowd "Conform or be cast out!"), "Spirit of Radio" and "Free Will"
4) Nope. I listen to a wide variety of music, much of it "guy music." Although in my older age, I allow myself to like bands like the Cure, Depeche Mode, and such that only girls and goth kids listened to when I was in high school.

[AndreaSC]

1.) CD

2) I LOVE RUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

3.) You have three guys that have come together and can put out BETTER music than bands with more members and they put on some AWESOME concerts!!!

Yes, it does...I love Adele as well....heehee :heehee:

[janetcgtv]

1. non-op TS
2. Who's Rush
3. See 2
4. Maybe
I love classical, rock and roll, jazz, the blues, easy listening, country and western,disco, Rap(must be non-violent), opera( don't care to much about the singing because it's in Italian however I love the costumes)
I hate hard metal or any other metal

Of Coarse my favorite singer is CHER

[Nadya]

CD/TG
Rush is OK but I acknowledge their contribution to the rock genre. Haha
It's probably the singer's voice. The music is pretty catchy.
My taste in music is all over the place. I can find something I like in every category (from pop to country to heavy metal to rap) so I don't think it would be easy to say if my taste is influenced by it. I will say that my tastes have broadened over the years because I have allowed myself try other genres and not afraid to like things that might be considered girly.

[Suzanne F]

1. TS
2. Yes
3. They were intelligent and rocked
4. Yes in some ways. I am a Stones fan and always thought Mick was androgynous. I knew that turned me on in an unusual way

[Krystalina]

1. CD, and love it very much
2. *Shrugs*
3. I'm not that familiar with them
4. Nope. I'm all over the place, love rock, rap, Jpop, etc.
Extra Credit: Asian Kung Fu Generation?(male)

[Laura J]

1 TG

2 Never heard of them until Google told me. Sounds like music I may listen to occasionally.

3 My musical taste varies drastically. Sometimes it's The Beatles, other times its Marylin Manson...

4 No

[susan jackson]

1 So, do you identify with CD TG TS or other specification?

I am TS


2 Do you like Rush?

On record, I liked the first 4 LP's - 'Rush', 'Fly By Night', 'Caress Of Steel' and '2112'. However, when the keyboard became the main instrument, I stopped listening to them

Saying that, tho, in England we have a radio station called "Planet Rock", which specialises in classic rock music from the 60's to 80's, and they have a number of Rush songs on heavy circulation - 'YYZ', 'Tom Sawyer', 'Spirit Of Radio', 'La Villa Strangiato', and I have found myself getting into them again (albeit, not the synth heavy music from the 80's)


3 Why or why not?

I think they are good musicians. With the exception of John Enthwistle (The Who), Geddy Lee is my favourite bass player. Neil Peart's drum solos are always entertaining (something I never thought I would ever say!) and Alex Lifeson is a guitar virtuoso.

Although I have not seen them live, I do have a lot of their concert DVD's - 'Exit...Stage Left', 'Grace Under Pressure Tour', 'A Show Of Hands', 'Chronicles: The DVD Collection', 'In Rio', 'R:30', 'Snakes And Arrows' and ''Time Machine', and they always seem to have a lot of fun onstage, but I am still not sure why they have the washing machines as a backline!


4 Do you thing your gender identity has any influence on the music you listen to?

Not at all. As a boy growing up, I listened to a lot of rock, heavy metal and punk bands - The Who, Alice Cooper, Iron Maiden, The Ramones - and now, as a girl I listen to the same kind of music

I will admit to being more open-minded now (I also like Kylie and Lady Gaga), but that has more to do with me getting older, rather than gender identity

[Jillian Faith]

1 CD

2 Absolutely Yes

3 Fell in love with 2112 in college and the rest is history

4 Not sure I understand the question but here goes East Street Band

[Erica Marie]

1) TG

2) Rush is awesome

3) I saw them back in the early 90's in concert. They were cutting edge back in there time. Besides they probably had one of the best drummers around.

4) I promise being tg has nothing to do with the music I listen to. I enjoy everything from Alan Jackson to Katy Perry to ZZ Top.

[sometimes_miss]

I'm sort of CD/TG. I thought I was TS when I was a teen, before I knew what differentiated how males and females think and see the world.
2 Yes, well, their hits mainly. I don't listen to their whole albums.
3 I can't tell you why I like some music; it just sounds good.
4 Right now, I'm listening to a lot of pop music, mainly Korean and Japanese female vocal/dance groups. To some extent, I would like very much to be one of those girls, even though I know that it's impossible. Their current songs virtually always focus on love and relationships, where as most American songs (especially rap), well, for the most part just suck.
Favorites: SNSD aka Girls' Generation; Brown Eyed Girls; AKB48; Rainbow; SPICA; SES; FinKL; BabyVOX; and one lovely young woman who hails from Scotch Plains, NJ: Ailee. Terrific voice, great songs. Check this one out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7762P32shE

[Krististeph]

Thank you all so much for your replies! It's really great seeing the gamut of responses. I have not run any number yet, and i'm not sure how i can translate qualitative responses to quantitative, but it seems that music taste runs independent of gender orientation, but perhaps with a low positive correlation of genetic gender (basing this also of other responses from primarily female respondents.

For what it is worth, I think you all have a great range of tastes, which IMO is impressive and healthy. I LOVE the classification of Rush as "nerd rock", and I'd bet money that this is how Geddy, Alex, and Neil would classify themselves!

BTW- Neil wrote a short book recently called "Clockwork Angels", seems to be a bit of a cross between Eco's "Baudolino" and Rushdie's "Haroun and the Sea of Stories". I would say it is Tolkienesque, but only in spirit, not in detail.

Musical taste seems to be pretty independent of most other personal characteristics, but again thank you all for your input!

[Tracii G]

1. TG
2. Never got into Rush all that much.
Not that they aren't a great band mind you.Neil Pert is amazing.
Music and being a CD/TG has no connection IMO.

[Cheryl T]

Ok...here goes.
1. Yes (I hate labels)
2. Sort of...saw them the first time ages ago when they opened for Humble Pie at Asbury Park Convention Center here in the Garden State. Never became a huge fan, but I like them some.
3. No particular reason, except that I mostly prefer classic rock and jazz.
4. No...no influence. I just enjoy any type of music that is good music from Rap to Classical and every where in between.

How about David Bowie? He always blurred the lines and I love him.

[RenneB]

Interesting thread... I'll play.

1) CDr heading towards TG...
2) Yes, got introduced to their music in the 70's ... gosh that was a long time ago. Actually saw then in concert too...
3) Great story rock songs.... love 2112...
4) No... I listen to a vast array of music from Bach to disco to rock to pop...

EC ..... Ahh Boy George, and a bunch of others....

Renne.....

[flatlander_48]

TG in general, CD specifically; BI
I've heard the name, but I have nothing specifically attached to them
I'm probably too old
I don't think there is a relationship between music and gender and sexuality for me. My musical tastes are very broad. Examples would be Billy Joel, Stevie Wonder, Dave Brubeck, Keb' Mo', Scott Joplin, Fleetwood Mac, Hilary Hahn, Enya, Creedence, Glenn Gould, Sergio Mendes, Adele, Buena Vista Social Club, The Temptations, TuPac, Sade, Clifton Chenier...



If you see a pattern in there, let me know...

[joank]

#2 -I thought 'Rush' was Rush Limbaugh.

[Ginger Jameson]

1 So, do you identify with CD TG TS or other specification?
CD


2 Do you like Rush?
They're ok. I don't own any, but they don't have a lot of songs that make me want to change the station.


3 Why or why not?
Too overplayed. They have maybe 5 songs that ever get any radio time.


4 Do you thing your gender identity has any influence on the music you listen to?
Deinitely. I listen to a lot of female pop and R&B singers. Then again, I also like Slayer and Metallica.


extra credit (??) Can you thing of a male band that is divided along the lines of conventional genetic gender?

Pretty much any metal band, and especially Death Metal, Speed Metal, and Thrash Metal.

[Kathyxd]

1 So, do you identify with CD TG TS or other specification?

2 Do you like Rush?

3 Why or why not?

4 Do you thing your gender identity has any influence on the music you listen to?

extra credit (??) Can you thing of a male band that is divided along the lines of conventional genetic gender?

1. CD
2. Yes (seen them live)
3. Neil is one of the all time great drummers, written some incredible songs (Subdivisions / Distant Early Warning / The Enemy Within / Tom Sawyer / Spirit Of Radio / Limelight and many others)
4. None whatsoever.

Sisters Of Mercy. (A Goth Band). Been to their gigs and Male Goths love to wear as much make up as the females and push the clothing boundries all the way

[susan jackson]

Hey, Krististeph. Here's something you might be interested in

On November 11th, the band are going to release a 10-DVD or six-Blu-ray set entitled 'R40', to celebrate their 40th anniversary

The set contains the previously released concert videos 'Rush in Rio' (2003), 'R30' (2005), 'Snakes & Arrows Live' (2008), 'Time Machine 2011: Time in Cleveland' (2011) and 'Clockwork Angels Tour' (2013), as well as a bonus disc with previously unreleased live performances:

Bonus Disc Contents:

Laura Secord Secondary School 1974

1. "Need Some Love"
2. "Before and After"
3. "Best I Can"
4. "I've Been Runnin'"
5. "Bad Boy"
6. "The Loser"
7. "Working Man"
8. "In the Mood" (partial)

Capitol Theatre 1976

1. "Bastille Day"
2. "Anthem"
3. "Lakeside Park"
4. "2112"
5. "Fly By Night"/"In the Mood"

1988

"Lock and Key"

Molson Amphitheatre 1997

1. "Limelight"
2. "Half the World"
3. "Limbo"
4. "Virtuality"
5. "Nobody's Hero"
6. "Test for Echo"
7. "Leave That Thing Alone"/Drum Solo
8. "2112" (all seven parts)

2011

"I Still Love You Man"

Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Induction, 2013

1. "2112," featuring Dave Grohl, Taylor Hawkins and Nick Raskulinecz
2. "Tom Sawyer"
3. "The Spirit of Radio"

The box set also contains a 52-page hardback book, including photos of memorabilia and from concerts throughout their career.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nk1j2JY75J0