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Annaliese
09-19-2014, 04:15 PM
As a group we get along, most the time we auger over, hose or bare leg, short skirt or long skirts, we have so much in common, we are from every country, form every corner of the world. We should be ruling, making laws, and we have a better sense of right, and a better fashion sense. What say we.

KlaireLarnia
09-19-2014, 04:20 PM
We have a lot more things "not in common" that we do in common. Until we all agree on what we do, what we want and why we do it, where it should go and how to get the public to accept us fully - we will never "rule" anything. We are a great society but massively disjointed and fragmented one.

Sadly any dreams we have of making a difference or getting a better deal are just that... dreams.

Jennifer-GWN
09-19-2014, 05:41 PM
I would tend to refer to us as a community. A community with the capability to rise up if organized. Collectively do we have a voice yes given the numbers however a mouse click 'like or a single tweet is not an army of change until there is an organized mission and leadership to channel the collective power.

I'm getting way to deep for a Friday. Time to a nice glass of wine and get into the zone.

Cheers...Jennifer

DebbieL
09-19-2014, 06:07 PM
That sounds silly on the surface, but it was actually done in many cultures. The natives of north America saw transgenders as "Two Spirit People" - they often became medicine men, shamen, healers, and "wise ones". In northern Europe effeminate men often stayed with the women and grew to be, for lack of a better word, "Wizards". Many seemed to have prophetic abilities, and many had an uncanny understanding of how to peacefully resolve complicated situations.

Effeminate males often lacked the physical stature to succeed in hunting and battle, so they turned to intellectual persuits. They would learn about herbs and medicines from the women, as well as how to prepare them for medicinal purposes. Of course, they also learned "dark" medicine, for example how to make poisons from wolf's bain, henbain, and other plants, insects, and animals, some of which could turn a simple touch into an illness lasting a week or more. This was probably one of the reasons they weren't killed off.

In Shakespear's MacBeth, lady MacBeth says "unsex me" to prepare to kill the king. Witches were often believed to be either unsexed or of both sexes, perhaps because many witches were men who lived as women.

Don Juan, aka Don Giavani, was actually based on the real life story of a famous singer who had quite a reputation for seducing a great number of women. Giovani was actually a castrati, and would probably have made love more like a lesbian. The reason he was never persecuted for his adventures was that everyone knew he was a castrati, including his female lovers and their husbands.

Many priests were effeminate or homosexual or both. Many great artists and inventors were also some combination. Many transgender and gay people have played critical roles in battle. For example, Alan Touring, who was both effeminate and gay, was the key to being able to easily crack Hitler's enigma machine. He also created the modern computer in it's earliest forms.

As for "Ruling the world", that's probably a bad idea. When any one group takes control, they tend to persecute other groups. The Amazons of South America used to castrate and enslave men, often killing male infants immediately after they were born. When Christians took over, they did ungodly things that were completely contrary to everything in his teachings.

Kate Simmons
09-19-2014, 06:14 PM
I understand what you are saying Hon but you know sometimes when folks become "organized" is when all the different agendas come out. We are not any better or worse than any other group of people.:)

JayeLefaye
09-19-2014, 06:59 PM
To paraphrase C.S. Lewis, in one of his Narnia stories...

"The king has way too many responsibilities. It's much more fun to be the prince(or princess)...

Jaye

hope springs
09-19-2014, 07:15 PM
Bunch of party poopers in here. I say yes, we rule the world!!!! Buhwahhahahaha!


On a serious note, they say there are more women in college now than men. Perhaps women will rule one day. In that era, perhaps CDers will be more accepted. If not, then we start our CD revolution. Id fly into battle with a tiara and camo skirt.

sometimes_miss
09-19-2014, 10:55 PM
We have a lot more things "not in common" that we do in common.
The only thing we all have in common is that we are men who wear clothes that are designed for female bodies, and which are not considered appropriate attire for us by the vast majority of the planet's population. That's about it.

Ally 2112
09-19-2014, 11:03 PM
If the most of the world do not aceppt us and we do not join together becuause most of us have to be in the closet do we really have a chance ?

Kate Simmons
09-20-2014, 04:14 AM
We'll start our own revolution wearing tiaras and camo skirts? This I gotta see. Many of us are not brave enough to step outdoors. Where will we get the sudden courage?:battingeyelashes::)

Katey888
09-20-2014, 05:05 AM
Annaliese - I had to read your post a couple of times before it completely sunk in...

You're being totally ironic, right...? :lol:

All I would say is that I suspect a fair few lawmakers and judges are probably already with us, just underdressing... ;)

Katey x

Marcelle
09-20-2014, 05:26 AM
Hi Annaliese,

Well since we are planning to rule the world I would like to claim the title of "Overlord of the Great White North and Queen of all Hosers and Hockey Nuts" As my first act of ruling I will banish Starbucks from my realm and make Tim Horton's the required coffee. :heehee:

Hugs

Isha

Kris Avery
09-20-2014, 09:50 AM
Katey, why do you think they wear gowns? :heehee:

Isha, Tim's coffee is good, I agree Starbucks is completely overrated.

I am sure we have a lot more in common than wearing certain clothes too.

Beverley Sims
09-20-2014, 11:47 PM
I think we are the same as any other group who strive to be different.
We have our uniqueness and our commonalities.
One of the best special interest groups I have ever been involved in. :)

Charla McBee
09-21-2014, 01:03 AM
Sure, let's take over the world! Then leave everyone alone to do whatever makes them happy.