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Jenniferathome
01-19-2015, 11:44 AM
That's right. Went out, non event, like always. My wife and I spent a nice long weekend in Monterey, Ca. The weather was perfect and coincidentally, Nadine and her wife Jules, both members here were in Monterey as well. We met Sunday for dinner at Montrio Bistro, in the main part of town, not the cannery row tourist part. I was the only one in a dress, but it was a casual dress. The staff grated us with the same courtesy as any guest. The hostess even asked if it was a girls night out for us, to which we all replied yes. We enjoyed a meal some drinks and a perfectly normal conversation like any two couples would. There was no drama, no stares, no worries. Just four people hanging out.

This is is what going out is for those who are still afraid. It's normal life. Monterey is not the hotbed of transgender acceptace. It's old money, the coast guard, and tourism. Behave and dress appropriately and you will be welcomed. So endith the lesson.

kimdl93
01-19-2015, 12:26 PM
An excellent lesson, Jennifer! it is, or can be normal life, if we allow it to be and, as Jenn says, present and conduct ourselves appropriately. Let's not debate what's appropriate...we all know it when we see it;)

Jodi
01-19-2015, 12:33 PM
I concur. As I stated in another thread, dress appropriately, act appropriately, and you will have a great time.

Jodi

Persephone
01-19-2015, 12:46 PM
Congratulations on another normal night out, Jennifer!

Isn't that one of the greatest feelings in the world? Just being ordinary women out for an ordinary evening.

Enjoy!

Hugs,
Persephone.

"Gabriela"
01-19-2015, 12:49 PM
Agree!
Just be as nice and polite as you usually are and enjoy every second of it.
Cheers!
Gabriela

Amanda M
01-19-2015, 01:11 PM
Jennifer - may I be allowed to be just a little bit jealous? Glad you had fun!

StephanieCLT
01-19-2015, 01:12 PM
But Jennifer, most of us can only dream about looking as good as you! :heehee:

Jorja
01-19-2015, 01:16 PM
For those not "out" as yet, yes there are some creeps out there that will cause you problems but these days they are far and few between. It is nothing like 1977 was where as soon as you were made you were destroyed and told to get out of an establishment or worse, arrested.

Glad you had a good time Jennifer!

Amie Marie
01-19-2015, 01:20 PM
Jennifer is correct. I was sitting in a "mainstream" restaurant and the only attention I received was a lady in the next booth who wanted to know where I got my necklace. If you don't cause a seen there usually isn't one.

Jenniferathome
01-19-2015, 04:23 PM
... Let's not debate what's appropriate...we all know it when we see it;)

Just like pornography, right Kim?


Jennifer - may I be allowed to be just a little bit jealous? Glad you had fun!

Of course you can be Amanda but Southern Spain is not exactly hell on earth;-) Hope you're out having fun as well!.


But Jennifer, most of us can only dream about looking as good as you! :heehee:

Well, thanks for the kind words Stephanie, but it may interest you to learn that as were were leaving, I did catch several glances (no pitchforks, of course and no comments). I told my wife about the glances and she said she saw them as well and suspected that people were wondering if I was a transexual, NOT a cross dresser. For most, cross dresser = drag queen. So a manish looking, female dressed, person is more likely to be thought of as a transexual. I don't kid myself. I do not pass. A glance, I can survive, but sitting three feet from another couple at dinner is just not possible. Chatting with the waiter, not going to happen. And that's ok. Now, I have often written that being considered a transexual is about the best a cross dresser can hope for. After all, we ARE being considered a woman, just not with original equipment. Also, more than looks, it is confidence that gets you through. Look like you belong and act like you belong and everyone else takes it in stride.

justmetoo
01-19-2015, 05:00 PM
Sounds like a good fun evening.

You are so right, going out in public and being treated fine is not about whether you look good. Most people these days aren't going to hassle you; most people providing a service are going to treat you with the same respect and courtesy they treat any paying customer. And, like you said, it is confidence that gets you through. Your comment about being thought of as transexual also makes sense. I never though of it that way.

(got a chuckle out of the "original equipment" remark)

Caden Lane
01-19-2015, 05:45 PM
Allow me to say that there is far too much reason and common sense on this thread, and this reasonable stuff you speak of is preposterous!!!

Seriously Jennifer, it is always good to read of an uneventful normal evening. 'Tis a pleasure to hear it went well.

Ever & Always,
An envious Caden Lane

Hell on Heels
01-19-2015, 05:47 PM
Hell-o Jennifer,
Thanks for etiquette lesson. You are right about just being respectable, and no one will care.
Now how about another lesson on how to let a friend know when your going to be in their backyard!
I'm happy to hear you and Nadine had a nonevenful evening.
Much Love,
Kristyn

Nadine Spirit
01-19-2015, 10:12 PM
It was indeed a lovely, normal, night out. I never did find out how the ravioli was. It looked good.

Oh and sure, sitting in the middle of the super crowded restaurant, of course I saw a few folks looking at me. But not anymore so than I was looking at any of them. People look at people. It is okay. I have nothing to hide. Oh and no folks, it is not that I pass so super well that nobody can tell, it is that nobody cares.

And Krystin, sorry. It just means we will have to arrange another trip to that area specifically to have dinner with you!

Oh and Jennifer, please don't let it be your last post about another normal night out. Yours is a voice of reason, and if you stop, then there will only be one less good voice in a sea of confusion. :)