Hugs, cuddles, pats while Wearing a bra.

[Panties4me]

:o Have you had someone give you a cuddle, hug or a pat while wearing a bra, and they weren't aware till that point in time you underdress or crossdress? What was their/your reaction? I'm a "still in the closet cder" to all bar my wife and two female friends, as far as I know anyway, and underdress 24/7. I'm sure my wife knows I wear a bra from time to time and when she comes home and I have been home by myself, I get a hug and kiss from her and if I'm sitting, she will put one hand on my shoulder and bend over to kiss me. This I'm sure is to feel for a bra strap or the hug to see if I'm wearing a bra.
Likewise amongst my circle of friends, we give each other a hug as a greeting. Has anyone been discovered wearing a bra in this fashion. I mainly wear bras at home alone and fight o take it off before my wife gets home. But on occasions I will wear one into town when I am on a day off and feeling game. I dread running into a relo or friend and having that hugging moment and being asked, "are you wearing a bra?" Don't think it would go too well with some of my relatives. What would you say or do?

[bridget thronton]

Yes - it is amazing the number pats on the shoulder I get when I am wearing a bra

[sometimes_miss]

. What would you say or do?
This is exactly why I don't go out 'underdressed'. It's the same reason why I don't go out en femme at all. When you do either, you've already made the decision that you are willing to risk someone you know finding out that you're a crossdresser. And it's up to you how you want to respond, because clearly, you will have removed all doubt. There's very little reason you can give, as a male, for wearing a bra, that anyone will believe, other than the truth.

I don't make it a practice to go out underdressed. But this type of thread has turned up before, and I have to wonder why any male would be surprised or amazed by anyone checking subtly to see if what appear as bra straps under his clothes, are, indeed, what they appear to be.

[Krisi]

For a time I underdressed in a bra but there was always the risk of someone feeling it or even seeing it through my shirt. Once I got real forms, a wig, padded panties, etc. and started dressing most every day at home for at least a couple hours, my desire to underdress with a bra vanished and I don't wear one unless I'm dressing as a female.

I do wear panties full time except for doctor's visits. I find them to be more comfortable than men's briefs and it saves changing panties twice a day.

[Kate Simmons]

I always shied away from physical contact when I underdressed while working. I wasn't concerned as much with being discovered as I was with the wise ass guys who would probably snap my bra. :)

[Candice Mae]

Its simple really, if you don't need to wear a bra why put your self in that situation? Just leave the bra at home and the problem is solved.

[Jaylyn]

I love in the summer time just under dressing in my panties. In winter I can be found in panty hose also. I wouldn't wear a bra out just too risky. Unless you are a daredevil secretly wanting to be discovered

[Beverley Sims]

If I get a hug with a bra on, I make sure I am dressed as a female.

I am very shy about getting hugged otherwise. :)

[JohnH]

At my church there is a point of the worship service of "passing the peace" when we greet each other with saying, "Lord's peace be with you". There are several ladies who hug me and I'm sure they feel my bra. Anybody who sees me knows I wear a bra since my bra size is 40D with my natural breasts. Not wearing a bra in public is not an option with my breasts.

And I do not attempt to pass as a woman - I am in the church choir and at times I sing as an octavist (a very deep bass).

No one has ever teased me at all nor ever made me uncomfortable about wearing a bra except for my wife who likes to tease me.

Johanna Anna (John in real life)

[RADER]

The past 3 weeks I have worn a bra every day. Now that is a big break through for me.
But even with the hugs and the pack patting, no one has look strange or question me wearing a bra.
I think that because It is still cold enough for me to wear an under shirt and a heavy shirt that
makes feeling a bra not that noticeable. I know when summer really comes, and I start wearing
thinner shirts, the bra will have to go. But for now, I am enjoying myself.
Rader

[lingerieLiz]

I've written about this before. Over the years I've worn a bra much of the time. Since I fill a C cup bra I still project even not wearing one. I do move up a band size and down a cup size to reduce the projection. First of all if you wear a bra it will be noticed so accept that it will. You can think it won't be noticed but that is your thinking. Many here will say they don't get caught but in reality no one has said anything to them. Last summer I was in a department store wearing a blouse and bra going up the escalator a woman looked at me and I could tell she was well aware of what I had on. I was in a store one day and a guy walked in front of me. He was wearing a loose white mens T-shirt with a black bra under it. It was clearly visible.

I get the hugs and pats. While I would like to think that it is a greeting many times it is clear that the gals are checking me out. When her hand slides along the band or straps it leaves little to question. I think it is fun and with several women I will run my hand along there bra line to let them know I know what they are doing. The other thing is when you are similar in height and your boobs get in the way. There is a whole dance ritual to getting close without squishing boobs.

The most interesting experience was when I had a therapist slide her hand under my panties to work on some scar tissue. She warned me before she did it with exactly what she was going to do. I've been to several therapy sessions where the therapist could see or feel my panties or bra.

My sister-in-law went to greet me one day. I had on jacket but open and when I raised my arm to hug her, her hand went under my jacket. As she hugged me her hand landed on the band clasp and it was instant realization of what I had on. She gave me a questioning look, but all ended well. We wear the same size bras and have loaned on vacation.

[Terrylynn]

I would think that most people will notice the protrusions under your shirt before they notice bra straps. If you are wearing a normal woman's bra are the cups "deflated" to reduce the chance of being flagged?

[Fiona Lindum]

I have been hugged while wearing a bra several times, but no one has made a comment.

[Marcelle]

Hi P4M,

I would have to agree with most here that wearing a bra (underdressing as a guy) is going to get noticed. Yes, not everyone is going to notice but it is hard to hide the tell tale strap lines and clasp, not to mention the cups irrespective of your size. All one has to do is observe women and it is clear they are wearing a bra under their shirts, sweaters, or what not. It is far more likely that people don't say anything vice not noticing. It is kind of like dressing "en femme" in public and some will say, I must have passed because nobody said anything . . . however it is far more likely people noticed but have the common politeness to not say anything or they just don't care.

However, if underdressing with a bra in public is your thing, it is how you express your TG tendencies and it gets you through the day, then go forth and enjoy. :)

Hugs

Isha

[Lacey New]

i have worn a bra while underdressed on a number of occasions but only in cold weather when I would ordinarily be wearing heavier clothing. However, in those situations, I would only wear the bra when I was going places where I thought the risk of coming across someone that I knew was relatively low. Only once was I touched when wearing a bra by a male friend who casually put a hand on my shoulder in greeting but my bra was under a heavy sweatshirt and a ski jacket so I doubt if he felt a bra strap.
I too am in the closet even to my wife so if I think there is any risk of discovery, I will leave the bra at home tucked away in my stash.

[Nibor]

I used to travel a lot in my old job and would underdress in a bra, panties, ladies jeans and camisole. I was attending a trade show in Toronto and ran into a lady I knew from my hometown and when she saw me she came up and gave me a long hug and she ran her had down my back. She couldn't have missed my bra strap and as we broke apart from the hug she eyed me up and down and looked at me and said how wonderful I looked. My shirt was a bit tight so she could see the projections of my bra (I fill out a 38B with out forms and have a 30" waist). We talked for a bit and just before I left she gave me another long hug. I ran in to tow other males I knew at the trade show and they didn't notice my projections but men never notice those things

Nibor

[kimdl93]

I never wear a bra without forms and, no one will see me unless I'm fully dressed.

[DMichele]

For the most part I wear a bra every weekend. Several years ago while at a grocery store I encountered a GG friend whom I had not seen in a long time. We actually hugged two times with her detecting my bra (through my jacket) on the second hug. She gave me a knowing smile. Later at the check out, we made eye contact and I received another knowing smile. Her reaction made me feel good.

I sometimes wear a bra at work, but I am fearful of the casual tap on the shoulder - so I do it rarely. But I must say, somehow wearing a bra makes me feel more complete/together, and would like to wear one 7 days/week.

[Stephanie47]

Until I started reading posts on this forum I never tried "under dressing." But, I decided to give it a try several times during the winter months when I would be wearing a sweatshirt. Yes, I put on a black bra, black camisole, black panty and thigh high stockings with a garter girdle. I also tried wearing pantyhose rather than the thigh highs. Unlike some on this forum I saw absolutely no sense trying to stuff a skirt or short dress into my trousers/jeans. The sensual effect? At best? Non existent! At worst? It felt as if I was being strangled by too much clothing. I decided under dressing does absolutely nothing for me. I'll leave the undergarments under a pretty dress and lacy slip.

If you want to wear a bra under a male shirt, what do you actually feel? I felt no femininity at all. If you wear a bra under a dress shirt, even if all the garments are dark colored, women will notice the bra straps and adjustors. If you're trying to not "out" yourself, you're really deceiving yourself. Maybe I run with the wrong crowd of women. The women in my circle of friends will hug each other. That seems to be a female thing to do. I suspect if I was wearing a bra I would get hugs because they were trying to confirm I was wearing a bra.

On occasion, when the neuropathy in my legs get really bad I will wear a pair of control pantyhose. They are cheaper than buying compression medical pantyhose.

[CynthiaD]

Bra straps are always visible from the back, especially with tee shirts. (Take a look at the women around you.) Hugs happen. People will notice. They won't care, and neither should you.

[jeanine38]

This did happen to me once. It was embarrassing but life went on. I didn't make a big deal about it nor did I appear flustered but it was pretty annoying. My friend was taken back but we were in a group so she let it go.

[sonja hems]

I have worn a bra to work several times but only in the winter months when i have a tshirt, shirt, jumper and a fleece on to cover all the straps and bumps. I often wear knickers and tights ( panty hose ) to work probably more often than wearing mens pants. I just feel more comfortable being under dressed while out and about. I do worry sometime though about being caught out.

[Barbara Black]

I've been underdressing for years because it is my only true sense of relief since I can't dress in front of my wife or other family members. I acknowledge that I am risking being caught, or at least recognized, with or without hugs, but that is what I intend, to get caught once in a while, hopefully by understanding people who may gawk, but not point fingers or laugh. It's a risk. However, I had a very religious family across the street from me, and occasionally I would be wearing a bra under my plain T-shirt, and it would be very noticeable, so sometimes I wonder if they didn't leave because they couldn't put up with a 'pervert' across the street? Their excuse for leaving a very nice house was rather weak. LOL

[MissTee]

I underdress, but panties and no bra. Toes are painted. That's about it. I live and work in a very huggable environment and a bra would surely get me busted.

[lingerieLiz]

We all have different needs or expressions of our gender. I've gone through many phases and lifestyles. Currently I don't care about trying to pass or look like a woman. I do like women's clothes but at my age most of the women are wearing pants and blouses. I have the latitude to wear what I choose to and if people don't like it fine. I do have a few people that I don't want to distract with questions about my CDing such as doctors etc.

I guess I would be considered out of the closet because many people know that I wear women's clothes. I don't broadcast it nor do I push it to be noticed. I shop with women friends and have purchased clothes and lingerie for myself in front of them. I don't like polo shirts in guy mode because I project breasts. On the other hand I have several women's polos that I wear.

We all have to choose how we present and what it means to us. While I wear women's clothes I feel like a guy with pretty fem clothes. In some ways I guess I'm like Steven Tyler though much more conservative in what I wear. Everyone knows he wears women's clothes. He doesn't wear or need a bra but I do. If I was a woman and didn't wear one people would talk about me.

[Teresa]

I've never had the hug or a pat to discover what I'm wearing !
I didn't need to I found that the claims Wonderbra make are true, even without extra padding I realised I was attracting attention when I walked down my local high street even under my drab clothes, the lift was noticeable when I caught sight of myself in a shop window !!

[lingerieLiz]

Yes WonderBras do give one noticeable enhancements. As I was walking in the mall today I saw a tall slender gg that was probably a C cup gal and thought Do I project that much? I'm not as tall as she was but probably same BMI range. No, I'm wearing a B cup sister size to reduce projection. Then I looked down and realized my sweater was bridging the girls.

[Fany27ab]

I wears bra at the moments of my life when i dont care if the people caught me with girl clothes.
The other day i was wearing a bra an i hug i girl friend wanting she feel it but no lol
I know more than once people i didnt know notice i wear a bra, but i dont care in this people, so at this moment in a hug no one notice i wear bras

[kellibra]

My bra is only noticeable, for now, if I wear a sweater. There’s no hiding it. Otherwise I can still hide it well. All depends on how much I want others to notice it.

[Tomara]

To me it's all about your comfort level in your dressing , if you are confident and comfortable you won't worry as much about the what ifs . I'm a full time under-dresser I wear my bras and medium breast forms along with my bikini panties or a thong on a daily basis for both work and casually and When going about my normal day I'm sure there are some people who notice my larger than normal breasts or maybe once in a while a bra strap line but to be quite honest I don't let what they may think or say bother me at all , I've gotten hugs from people I know and some of them have felt my bra band or straps some have questioned and others have not , the ones that have asked I've been honest and open with my responses and have never had any negative reactions or comments , I also have several friends and family members who know of my feminine side and my dressing and none of them has any issues with me being me , self confidence and being comfortable with yourself are I think key to being happy in life .

[sfwarbonnet]

Its simple really, if you don't need to wear a bra why put your self in that situation? Just leave the bra at home and the problem is solved.


The concensus here seems to be “if you don’t need to wear a bra in public – don’t”. I would like to have natural breasts greater that an A cup so I would “need” one.

For underdressing, try these. All are OK out in public in either "boy" or “girl” mode. Wearing clothes usually associated with the opposite sex rapidly becomes normal. Underdressing also provides a “head-start” for presenting as a woman since you are already wearing a bra, panties, slip, and nylons! Items that could be spotted as women’s clothes when underdressing, such as a bra and nylons, are more of a challenge in “boy” mode; but when there is no reaction from either men or women that invites one to wear only womenswear. I have found the following items both acceptable and practical; they are readily available and, in fact, are mass-market items in the women’s department.

!) Slacks: Women’s pull on pants are much easier to put on than men’s belted pants. They do not need a fake fly, as the absence of it is usually not apparent, but I prefer non-figured and solid color, non-pastel pants so they are not readily identified as women’s clothing.

2) Panties: Underwear with a fly is unnecessary with womens pull-on pants. Although there are no-fly briefs in the men’s department, women’s full-cut briefs work just as well, and are often cheaper.

3) Slips: Shirttails tend to readily pull out of pull on pants. This can expose panty and pantyhose tops. A “solution” is to wear a full slip that is short enough to be worn with slacks. Also slips are usually made of material that makes it easier to pull on and straighten pants.

4) Bra: Although wearing a bra in public in “boy” mode can make one nervous and it is a challenge to “hide” it, wearing a bra can make one feel feminine and can be useful in “boy’ mode to keep non-adjustable straps on a slip from falling off the shoulders.

5) Nylons: Although wearing them in public can also make one nervous, an MD suggested that I wear pantyhose to avoid the indentation in my lower legs that mid-calf or knee-high socks make. Pantyhose do not require anything that is not also needed with women’s pull-on pants. Opaque ones are best, as they aren't readily identified as women's hosiery, but that isn't necessary and sheer nylons are OK and are more available. I actually prefer thigh highs as they are easier to put on than pantyhose, they do not need to be lowered to go to the bathroom, and only one leg needs to be thrown out when a run becomes apparent.

[Candice Mae]

I still don't understand the need to wear something that you don't need, having boobs is great (although they are awkward at times) but bra's are annoying. Also why run through a mine field if you don't need to? The whole idea of under dressing seams pointless to me, its only a matter of time to your secrets out. And most GG's I know and me pretty much only wear the above items (bra/slips/stockings) when they have to, simplicity is preferred.

[Karen RHT]

I've also experimented with wearing a bra under different conditions. Not every hand that touches you will notice, but others will, whether or not they mention it. Not everyone will notice the outline of a bra under a shirt, but some will. Once again, they may or may not actually mention it. Jackets, sweatshirts, etc., easily hide the outline of a bra, as well as some projection. Anyway you cut it, if you're not prepared to "own it" you're running a risk you probably shouldn't take by wearing a bra.


Karen

[sfwarbonnet]

I'm wearing a white 42A bra with adjustable straps and a back closure and a short (18") size 38 slip with non-adjustable straps. The bra doesn't seem to show under my white tee, but the adjustors, straps, and back closure would be obvious to hugs and/or shoulder or back feels. Although that's risky, I am usually willing to accept that as it has a raison d'etre. When the risk of being "caught" wearing a bra isn't acceptable, I remove the bra, although I prefer to wear it as a bra does help to keep the narrow slip straps from falling off my shoulders, probably because I don't have natural boobs.

[VanTG]

No offence but it can help people feel who they are. IF you really think about it is underwear necessary then? It rides up your butt! I think Candace you only wear these items when you have to because you may have the chance at anytime throughout your life have been able to wear such items. I mean the same could then be said about makeup, could it not? Is it really necessary? I would love to wear a bra on a daily basis but because I am still in guy mode 95% of the time its a risky thing.


I still don't understand the need to wear something that you don't need, having boobs is great (although they are awkward at times) but bra's are annoying. Also why run through a mine field if you don't need to? T

[TrishaTX]

I absolute love nylon or satin panties and I wear them out on occasions. I find it assuming and assuring when my wife sees or feels them on me and says oh! your wearing them! lol....

[Maria 60]

A few years ago we went to the mall and we meet some family members, my cousin kissed and hugged me and while we were talking she had her arm around me and at times was twisting her finger around the bra. I don't know if that's what she does while she talks to women. I still don't know if she really realized it.

[wilt575]

Yes WonderBras do give one noticeable enhancements. As I was walking in the mall today I saw a tall slender gg that was probably a C cup gal and thought Do I project that much? I'm not as tall as she was but probably same BMI range. No, I'm wearing a B cup sister size to reduce projection. Then I looked down and realized my sweater was bridging the girls.
Do you think anybody noticed the bridge if so it's just part of being a girl did anybody notice or comment? Besides being the law,I love wearing my seat belt enjoy the separation the shoulder strap gives me lol. At stop lights or crosswalks, somethings just stick out, just like having a bridge

[amandagurl2014]

Had a sales lady pat me on the back one time a few years back. I was underdressing. Heavily padded cami, probably a C cup under my male clothes. She read me and smiled. No negative comments or laughs.

[veola]

I tried to wear bra, but it doesn't inspire me. You have to have Breasts to feel pleasure.

[sfwarbonnet]

I agree, veola, forms or other "falsies" don't provide "natural" feedback. I'd rather grow real breasts, and get an appropriate size bra. If one has no breasts, an AA cup would be best for underdressing. Adjustable straps on a bra keep non-adjustable straps on a slip from falling off my shoulders, and the slip hides the bra's adjustors and back closure.

[lily1974]

I have never been outed wear a bra but do have a funny story about another undergarment. Blackheart Lingerie make some cute body suits. Anyways I was over my sister and brother-in-laws house helping work on his car. I thought I was safe wearing an extra long shirt and jeans over my tight black body suit that had little jolly rogers all over it. He asked me to hold a wrench on a bolt under the front of the car. Me not thinking I layed down on the ground and held away. This would have been fine but as fate would have it a wind blew my shirt up just as my sister walked out of the garage. Showing my nice under dressings. Her being the loud mouth she is blurted out. Are you wearing one of (my gfs name)s cami's? Freaking out I replied "no its a Russel Brandt thermal shirt". Thankfully not being ready to be outed yet I believe she bought it because I never heard another word.