New data - Men in Panties in the Emergency Room

[jjjjohanne]

Previously, I asked a nurse who had been an Emergency Room nurse. She said 1 out of every 15 men wore panties. This week, I met another ER nurse. I asked her how often it happens. She said she had not seen it in 10 years of working there. She said she has seen a lot of people's clothes be cut off of them, but she had never seen a man underdressing (she did not say "underdressing"). I had not expected her answer to be, "Never". Anyhow, I thought I should share it.

[Amy Lynn3]

Do you think the size of the hospital may contribute to the two different answers ? I know some years ago I knew a person who worked in the ER of a large hospital, that was a major medical treatment center. They had stories of men being dressed, that came into the ER.

[skislopes-cd]

Interesting. I'll be heading off to the store soon, panties on, so I hope not to be some nurse's first!

[CountessVF]

I find never hard to believe. The nurse might have her objections to it and falsified her answer to make it seem less socially acceptable.

[Sarah Beth]

Some years ago I had a friend who work as an ER nurse. One time at a get together someone was saying something about guys wearing panty hose in cold weather while riding motor cycles (I know I did that but of course for reasons other than staying warm) and she said that wasn't all they wore and not just riding bikes. She then told us that she had recently been in attendance when the guy had not only panties on but a bra. When she was pressed about how often she said sometimes she didn't really pay attention to what people had on because of the circumstances of the emergency but she did say it happened often and it wasn't unusual to see it at least once every week or so. Of course we lived in a college town and not to far from a large army base which may have caused these numbers to be skewed.

[Danitgirl1]

Sorry to be (overly) pedantic, but what we have here is a few anecdotes, at best numerous anecdotes will create a narrative, but never data.
Data is a prerequisite to creating information, from information we get knowledge. Narrative can inform knowledge but never create it...
Anecdotes can never create data...

[sometimes_miss]

When she was pressed about how often she said sometimes she didn't really pay attention to what people had on
Don't kid yourself. Nurses are trained to notice minute changes in patients' conditions. They notice. Some may be too kind to say so, but they notice.

I find never hard to believe. The nurse might have her objections to it and falsified her answer to make it seem less socially acceptable.
Nurses are pretty outspoken. If they see something unusual, they'll pretty much say so. You'd be pretty surprised at what topics of discussion come up.

Do you think the size of the hospital may contribute to the two different answers ?
Size of the hospital won't change the incidence per say, 50,000 persons which any decent e.r. will see in a year. However if the hospital is located in, say, San Francisco or NYC's Greenwich Village that might have something to do with it, you'll probably see more of us chancing underdressing in large cities than say, out on the farm under the overalls driving a tractor. Still, I work in a major city and we may see one person underdressed in a year. As much as we would like to think that we're 'normal' by believing that there are lots more of us out there, wishful thinking won't change reality.

And let's not forget, people who underdress are most likely trying to avoid being noticed, and so are more careful about doing everything, which is why they may be far less represented in situations where they would need to be brought to an emergency room, even to the extent that they'd do anything to get home and change before going anywhere where they'd have to expose themselves. Having come close to being outed simply by the 'grapevine', I know how quickly word of mouth can spread information when people have some 'juicy gossip' to talk about.

[Shelly Preston]

This is one of those things we will never really know.

Even those who work in the profession wont be adding it to the patient notes, so all we have to comment on is anecdotes.

I am sure not sure its too many given all the variables involved

[Beverley Sims]

Yes!We need more clinical studies to ascertain whether there is an increase or perish the thought.... A decrease in this type of activity.

In all seriousness I think it will be all here say and speculation.

[Lacy PJs]

Not only the size of the hospital but its location would no doubt factor in to the answer of the question. I'd suspect that panties in the ER would be a lot more common in more liberal areas of the country while their absence would be closer to the norm in very conservative areas.

Lacy PJs

[Eryn]

If I had the occasion to visit an ER in the last few years I would have been counted as a panty-wearer.

In fact, I wore them to my last physical, since I discuss being TG openly with my doctor. Nobody took undue notice.

[Dana44]

I don't think there is any data on that. I think they keep that to themselves. I do know that in 1994 when I went in with bad intestines, two doctors were on duty who saved my life. After they cracked me open and fixed everything. I was in a room finally and noticed that I had thigh highs on. White ones with a frilly top. When I was able to get up and walk I asked them about them. They said to stop bloodclots. I asked how long I should wear them. They said any damn time you want to in the future. LOL So I do not think panties are typically a problem.

[jjjjohanne]

I wonder if we can get quality answers from a Nurse-On-Call service? :)

[BLUE ORCHID]

Hi Johanne, The only way we will ever know is when the Government makes all Crossdressers
register and get a license and pay a CD tax.:daydreaming:

[BillieJoEllen]

I've known three EMTs from this city. they have a combined service time of I believe twenty eight years. None of them has ever seen an underdresser. One saw a CDer in full dress.

I know a young man that graduated from EMT school and moved down to a larger city. In the three months he has been working down there he has seen a lot of underdressers and two CDers in full dress.

I find that kind of hard to figure because we have 'accidents' and situations up here also. I know we have CDers up here because I have seen them.

[Allisa]

I hope I'm not the first for an ER nurse, but if I'm in the ER than what else can you do? Own it like I do anyway and get med treatment for why I'm there. Have to wear a" gown " they give you anyway.

[JocelynJames]

Just so you know there are probably plenty of close calls though. Last summer I was in a motorcycle accident and was brought in by ambulance to the ER. I was underdressed with hot pink Victoria Secret panties on . Surprisingly enough, my pulse stayed a cool 62 and bp was normal ( ends up I was in shock!) anyways, had X-rays, bruised hip and dislocated shoulder, they put me back together and the wife came and got me. I walked out shirtless , but not panty-less with my secret intact .


Hi Johanne, The only way we will ever know is when the Government makes all Crossdressers
register and get a license and pay a CD tax.:daydreaming:
Would not surprise me in the least

[Tracii G]

Why is this news anyway?
Is it so important to know how many men wear panties?
The whole premise seems silly.

[jjjjohanne]

:) Tracii, The point of this is that it is a sampling of the community from a third party. Someone on here once declared that 1 in 10-20 male patients in the ER have on panties. I thought that there was no way the number was so high! So, when the opportunity first arrived, I asked. It was verified. Still not satisfied, I asked again. This time the number was zero. (I was a bit surprised.) I would expect that many men needing to go to the ER would change their underwear to masculine before leaving if they could. Also, some men don't underdress 24/7. So some got lucky and did not get hurt in panties. That means, the number of actual underdressers is greater than the observed number. If the observed number is 1 in 15 as the first nurse suggested, then this phenomenon has a VERY high rate of occurrence. Maybe the point is that I am a good little monkey, but always very curious! :)

[Joanncdnj]

If I had the occasion to visit an ER in the last few years I would have been counted as a panty-wearer.

In fact, I wore them to my last physical, since I discuss being TG openly with my doctor. Nobody took undue notice.

Me too......... actually last year I had to go to the ER after a job site injury. I'm sure my panties were visible, but what they
didn't see...... my pretty plum colored toe nails!!

[Janet Bern]

count me as one because I only have womans panties and wear them every day
sometimes I wear a 16 inch 1/2slip instead of panties
so I would definitely be a statistic,

[Krisi]

I went to the emergency room in panties. I thought I was having a stroke but it was a "mini stroke" (TIA).

What's odd was, I had been wearing yellow lace panties and I changed into plain black panties before I left. I don't know why I didn't change into white briefs, I knew I was going to the hospital.

We have a friend who is an ER nurse. She tells us of guys in panties and/or full women's clothing who come in. Some are regulars.

[Amy Lynn3]

johanne, I wonder if the second nurse you talked with had a problem discussing the issue for fear she would violate the HIPPA Oath? I know some medical personal that will tell you anything about everything. Others don't even want to tell you where they work.

[Jaylyn]

I really believe that if my legs were cut off and had to pull my bloody stumps into the bedroom to change from panties to mens briefs before I would even call the emergency crew here in our small town. I bet many gals on this site would do the same. A small town emergency room is a gossip of every thing. The nurses here would be on their cells calling their best friends and telling them to please don't tell but guess what happened today. I think the size of the emergency room, the professional attitude of the employees, and the location would have every thing to do in getting a count on a subject like this.