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Josephine
05-29-2015, 08:57 PM
I went to my favorite Chinese restaurant today. Got my food from the buffet, and went and sat down. Was eating my food, and noticed this really big marine. He looked like he just got back from the war. He was looking right at me. Soon he said "Some people in this country are really sick and should be killed". His wife was sitting there next to him and asks "How could you do that?" He replies while staring at me, me not looking at him. "Just take it out in the country and shoot it like a sick dog." I think that her question was not answered the way she hoped. as she seemed totally embarrassed. I got up to leave and glanced at him. He was looking straight ahead with the face of a mad bull. He was at least 6"2" around 225 pounds of all muscle. I think he could have bitten my head off with one bite. I have been on hormones for 9 months now, living full time female for almost two years. SRS is 6 months away. I have never felt so vulnerable and scared in all my life. However, the only way for people like him to get me to stop my transition is to kill me. If I can't complete myself, I would rather be dead anyway. I had electrolysis around my lips today (almost finished with treatment, Yay!) so I didn't look so good today, being a little swelled up with bee stings. I usually have no problem passing, but not so much today. Should have stayed home as my conscious told me before I left for the restaurant. Can anyone relate? How did you handle your emotions and fear?
Jill_cd
05-29-2015, 09:16 PM
Josephine, I'm sorry about what happened. You have to live your life the way you want to live it. You should not hide at home for fear of 'offending' someone.
Launa
05-29-2015, 09:23 PM
Fear can strike me different ways at different times. Lately I look at most situations and say to myself if the worst outcome for me is death then let it happen. If some piece of shit can beat me in a fight and kill me then he'll be in jail for a very long time. That's their punishment if that's the final outcome but usually I'm in a position to handle myself as I'm not on hormones and still workout etc. Remember its easy to call names to people 99% of the time they won't act while they beak off like that.
Josephine
05-29-2015, 09:45 PM
Hi Launa, I agree with most of what you are saying. However. I am a 5'8", 135 pound weakling. Now that I have found myself, I could never go back to being the miserable unhappy male that I tried but failed to be.
Dawn cd
05-29-2015, 09:52 PM
Not to excuse his speech which was hateful and possibly criminal, but some people come back from war with their heads really screwed up, violent and suicidal. I'm sorry you had to be on the receiving end.
arbon
05-29-2015, 09:55 PM
It is a reflection of the type of person he is, and has nothing really to do with you. Some are sicker than others.
Robin414
05-29-2015, 10:25 PM
Tell the mother fi g piece of sht that you were treated for testicular cancer and it's air borne...want some, no seiously!
Launa
05-29-2015, 10:31 PM
Hi Launa, I agree with most of what you are saying. However. I am a 5'8", 135 pound weakling. Now that I have found myself, I could never go back to being the miserable unhappy male that I tried but failed to be.
Don't get me wrong I get scared like anybody else. Just because you're 135 lb woman doesn't mean you're weak compared to this redneck. Remember he has fears too and one of them is the consequences for his actions if he became physically abusive. If we lived closer I would teach you some Escrima. A good practitioner can level the playing field against strength. Back to what happened this guy has got a lot to learn and his little world is getting smaller for him. We will survive and they can go hide in their caves. More people like us than don't like us.
Leah Lynn
05-29-2015, 10:40 PM
Sounds like a real jerk. There will always be haters, and we can't spend the rest of our lives hiding from them. We have every right to go about our lives, just like everyone else.
Tomorrow is another day. Hopefully it will be a good one.
Hugs,
Leah
lingerieLiz
05-29-2015, 11:16 PM
That Marine is going to have a real hard time when he finds out that the guy next to him in the barracks is gay and maybe tougher than him. Once knew a guy that tried rolling gays. His big mistake was when he tried it the gay guy was a fighter and beat the daylights out of him. Took him several weeks to fully recover and a heap of embarrassment. We didn't let him forget it.
Victoria Demeanor
05-29-2015, 11:16 PM
Hi Josephine,
I served for 23 years and I like to believe that I stood the line to protect your liberties and rights to be happy as I believe the majority of those who serve do. I have met guys like the one you encountered. They are small minded little boys inside that are so insecure in there own masculinity that they have to pick on what they perceive as weak just to make them self feel big. honestly they are an embarrassment to the military and to society in general and not worthy of your time.
You my dear are the brave one. you have stood up to nature and said you made a mistake and I am going to correct it. You are forging your path to happiness against what society has thrown at you and stood tall. you deserve to be respected for your courage and I for one salute you.
Girl, forget him, he's a miserable little twit that will live a miserable little life and probably didn't get anything from his wife that night.
I hope all goes well as you move along your path and you reach the joy and happiness you deserve.
Victoria D ;)
Ann Louise
05-30-2015, 12:11 AM
Gosh no honey, I don't think you're off base at all to be scared. This really embodies a very common danger we all have the possibility of confronting, almost any time, anywhere. The fact that he was military doesn't seem to be as crucial as it is that he was a physically mature, aggressive and mouthy transphobe. There are many of these dudes around, and why discretion and tactical retreat are good skills to keep current. Just thinking out the reality of it...
Badtranny
05-30-2015, 12:18 AM
What can you do?
This is our lot. We are openly hated and in most places we have zero legal protections. I live in the great state of California so it's a lil bit better, but some of you girls are literally surrounded by wolves.
Transition is a hell of a thing.
cheryl reeves
05-30-2015, 02:36 AM
im confused here,just cause your transitioning,you seem to forget how to deal with these dirtbags..along time ago 28 yrs ago i weighed 135 and could pickup 3-400 lbs and i looked scrawny..when i went to basic i had a dirtbag in my unit that learned to be very afraid of me,tried a g.i. shower on me with 40 other guys and they found that 135 lb weakling was strong and mean as hell...even now at 49 i still do not look like much for i hide my strengh real well...you need to relearn a few things and self defense is one of em.
Badtranny
05-30-2015, 04:06 AM
...you need to relearn a few things and self defense is one of em.
LOL
way to go bro.
She wasn't attacked, she was mocked. What would you have her do? Get in this dudes face? Why? To defend her manhood?
Let me tell you a little secret about HRT bruh, it really saps your strength. I am only a fraction as strong as I once was, ...but I'm a whole hell of a lot prettier.
Self defense is about protecting yourself from an attack is it not? She didn't tell a story about being attacked, she told a story about being openly mocked and enduring a hostile environment. That's the world us full-timers live in. Are we supposed to be punching dudes in the face whenever they sneer at us or call us names? Sorry but I wasn't that aggressive as a dude, and I'm definitely not gonna be picking fights with dudes who are clearly bigger and stronger now that I'm much smaller and weaker.
stefan37
05-30-2015, 04:42 AM
im confused here,just cause your transitioning,you seem to forget how to deal with these dirtbags..along time ago 28 yrs ago i weighed 135 and could pickup 3-400 lbs and i looked scrawny..when i went to basic i had a dirtbag in my unit that learned to be very afraid of me,tried a g.i. shower on me with 40 other guys and they found that 135 lb weakling was strong and mean as hell...even now at 49 i still do not look like much for i hide my strengh real well...you need to relearn a few things and self defense is one of em.
This comment is the difference between a person that is says they are TS and not transitioning and one that is TS and transitioning. Women do not pick fights with men. Living your life as a full time women is a process to integrate as a female. The older you are when you start the process the more challenging it is to be accepted as female.
As Melissa said Hrt reduces muscle mass. A female 135 lb person has no where near the strength of a135 lb male.
I am 5'10 185. Full time close to 2 year's and I would have done exactly like the OP did. Verbal confrontation with a large large testosterone pumping hostile ex marine would not have ended well.
Josephine, you did the right thing by avoiding confrontation. Early transition is challenging and it will take many years to erase or hide the male traits we developed. If you want to succeed integrating your life as a female. When you feel uncomfortable or fearful going out is when you need to push through that and go out. This develops your confidence and shows society that you are what you are.
kimdl93
05-30-2015, 06:46 AM
This individual has serious problems....probably not limited to his intolerance for transgendered people. Sadly, he really didn't understand the freedoms he thought he was defending and probably never will.
I will cut him just this much slack. It could be that he is suffering from PTSD. The experience of combat and prolonged deployments have taken a toll on thousands of GIs. If that is so, I hope he gets the help he needs.
ErikaS
05-30-2015, 07:05 AM
As a former Marine I am sick and tired of these people who are so just out of it. We need to stand up and get in there face and do the right thing not just for us but for the whole world to see. I have seen and been around these small he man women haters for a long time and have gotten in the face of many of these and said to stop or else. I am very proud of you Josephine you are showing a far greater strength than he will ever have. keep taking the hill Girl we are behind you all the way.
We got your 6 !
Erika
Emma Beth
05-30-2015, 07:06 AM
If he had just gotten back, then he may be dealing with a lot more than what it looks like on the surface.
He could have been carrying wounds that you can not see, such as PTSD. People react in different ways to this.
He could also be dealing with the fact that he may be getting out of the Marines soon as well. From personal experience, it is very nerve wracking to go through discharge. You face re-acclimating to civilian life, which is very different from life in the military and it can be very scary.
Now don't get me wrong; what he obviously did is not acceptable, and I do not condone his behavior in any way. I'm just trying to add a different perspective of understanding. Our service men and women that are dealing with PTSD is a huge problem that all of us need to be aware of.
Josephine, I fully agree with the other girls in that you handled yourself wonderfully.
If it were me in your shoes; I most likely would have approached this man (with caution of course), and thanked him for his service. That most likely, in my case, would have led to a brief conversation about his life in the military and possibly swapping "war" stories. But that would just be me.
Michelle.M
05-30-2015, 07:58 AM
im confused here,just cause your transitioning,you seem to forget how to deal with these dirtbags..
Hardly. But the way I dealt with these fine examples of humanity as a man was far different than how I am compelled to do so as a woman. As Misty says, the loss of body strength changes the power dynamic in ways you obviously can't imagine. That changes the tactical approach as well.
There's a word to describe trans women who deal with this sort of thing in the way you suggest - statistic. If Josephine follows your suggestion then she might end up in a position where I could be reading her name at the TDOR memorial service in November. Let's not promote this sort of dumbassery, OK?
Josephine
05-30-2015, 08:04 AM
There was no way I was going to try to talk with this man, I did not want to give him a reason for hitting me, or start a real confrontation. Since I started my hrt treatment, not only has my physical strength diminished to less than half of what it was, my aggressive attitude (which was not much anyway) has mostly disappeared. I have noticed that the responses to my post vary between the ones that are on hrt and those that are not. The people here that are not on hrt are much more aggressive than those that are, with some exceptions. My testosterone level is at less than 5 points, so it does not drive my thinking anymore, thankfully. There is nothing easy about transition, and this is just a part of what we have to face. Fortunately, 99 out of a 100 people are either friendly, curious, or they just don't care. I do feel sorry and sad for him if it is PTSD, and I do hope he gets the help he needs before he harms himself or someone else.
Laura912
05-30-2015, 08:12 AM
Well stated Josephene.
Barbara Black
05-30-2015, 09:00 AM
When it comes down to it, he has to make changes of his own, just as you are making changes. Or as said above, he will end up paying for his ignorant attitude and any stupid reactions he makes in society. You were right to be scared, but he doesn't have the right to be stupid.
Launa
05-30-2015, 09:09 AM
Josephine, don't get me wrong when I talk about self defence I don't think you want to jump in someone's face.. I think you did the right thing by not confronting this guy. You're right about those of us on hormones vs those that aren't on them and there has to be a huge difference in strength as people mentioned. The only reason I harp on self defence is it helps control the fear and makes us react in different ways if we know how to control it.
Some of us here including myself might say do this and do that but chances are if we were in the same situation we would do the same thing you did. Everytime you can escape from a dangerous situation it is to be declared as a victory. So remember you won he did not win. YOU ARE THE WINNER! He has to now deal with what he said because it sounds like his wife was not into condoling his behaviour.
That was disgraceful behavior. Someone needs to remind that marine that his job is to defend the USofA where generations have fought for our freedom of belief, not beat up or mock those with whom he disagrees.
Amanda M
05-30-2015, 09:56 AM
Josephine, Josephine. How sad that you should have been confronted by some one whose only solution for dealing with which he cannot understand is to kill it. Useful for governments perhaps, but not for civilization. Think Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Ceaucesu and all the rest. You did marvellously well. The only other thing I'd like to say is that I did my little bit of service on the medical side, and I can assure you that the big pigs squeal the loudest when the are hurt!
Dana44
05-30-2015, 09:57 AM
Josephine, you did the right thing. Bad people like that just steer clear, they try to ruin everybody's day. Now if he pushed you into a corner. just tell him. Hey, I did not bother you. Now if you want bothered keep it up. I took American karate, art sport and self defense. Now the best thing to do is steer away from any fight. You did the best you could, you left the environment. But any big man can fall as easy as any small man. In Karate, I concentrated on the big guys and how to take them down. Heck just poke him in the eyes hard. That would stop him long enough to run out of there. A girl does need to work on self defense. I could protect my SO and I when we are out. But would always walk away from a fight if I can because somebody would get hurt bad.
Jean 103
05-30-2015, 10:42 AM
The guy is a moron, and he will get his, really in front of his wife? Do not feel bad and do not fight with these types it will get you nowhere, just stay safe, and ask for help if you have to. If he is on active duty he could get in so much trouble for this kind of behavior. If he is too dumb to know that this is another reason you did the right thing by not confronting him.
ShayLeigh Dominique
05-30-2015, 10:56 AM
On behalf of those of us in military service, and the Navy Department in particular, I apologise with all my heart. I believe he is not indicative of the mindset of all marines, nor does he represent the true spirit of our military service.
Please also take into consideration that if, as you said, he had just returned home from a deployment, he is probably hurting as well. War does nasty things to the human mind, and often it retreats into a "safety bunker" of what it holds to be "right". HE is the sick dog, not you; and he doesn't need to be put down, he needs help and lots of it. I understand your fear, but just remember he has his own psychological wounds to deal with and though his are somewhat self-inflicted (he didn't have to enlist), they are no less heinous than the ones inflicted on the transgender and transsexual populations.
Please don't let this color your view of those of us who offer ourselves on the altar of self-sacrifice (even me in my oh, so small way) so that we all can enjoy the possibility of freedom and the pursuit of our own brand of happiness.
... They are small minded little boys inside that are so insecure in there own masculinity that they have to pick on what they perceive as weak just to make them self feel big. honestly they are an embarrassment to the military and to society in general and not worthy of your time.
You my dear are the brave one. you have stood up to nature and said you made a mistake and I am going to correct it. You are forging your path to happiness against what society has thrown at you and stood tall. you deserve to be respected for your courage and I for one salute you.
What Victoria said goes double for me... It hurts me that my shipmates, my brothers-in-arms would lash out at the very citizens we swore ourselves to protect "from all enemies, foreign AND domestic."
Know that you are loved. Loved for your courage, loved for your tenacity, and loved for the example you set by daring to be yourself. Strength is not measured only by how much you can physically carry, the intellectual and emotional weights are sometimes far heavier with longer reaching consequences.
I want everyone to know that in no way am I putting down our people who are serving. I appreciate very much the fact that I owe my ability to transition at all to the people that protect our country and rights. I would like to thank all of you that served or are serving.
Oh sweetie... I, for one, didn't think you were denigrating those in service. That was done by the guy who verbally attacked you! Know that I support you, and that I joined the service to give you (and me) the ability to seek your happiness whatever the price, whatever the cost! Just know, there is always a piper to be paid...
Dianne S
05-30-2015, 11:08 AM
I'm really sorry that happened to you. I think you were absolutely correct not to confront the guy. Escalation is almost impossible to control.
Was he in military uniform? If so, I would put in a complaint with the US Department of Defense. Someone wearing a military uniform presumably is supposed to behave in a way that reflects well on the military. They might be able to track him down, or perhaps the restaurant owner knows his name.
Josephine
05-30-2015, 11:30 AM
In response to going after this guy through channels, I do not want to go after this guy at all, why look for trouble.
I want everyone to know that in no way am I putting down our people who are serving. I appreciate very much the fact that I owe my ability to transition at all to the people that protect our country and rights. I would like to thank all of you that served or are serving.
I, on the other hand, am a big sissy, weakling, etc., and always have been. The woman in me has always come through, even though I did my best to try to act like a male. I have been beat up quite a few times. Once in grade school, I was actually beat up by a girl. The boys used to pull sticks to see who got to beat me up that day. Mostly because of my feminine ways and not wanting to do what boys do. I liked playing with the girls, and got caught dressing like a girl at times. I never had the desire to learn to fight, as I hate all violence. I refuse to inflict pain on others, even at my own expense. I know, many of you are going to say that is just plain stupid. It is the way I have always been, and can't change as its a part of my soul. Besides, I can run really fast!! lol
Jean 103
05-30-2015, 11:42 AM
Maybe I should have stated, I was in the Navy and had friends in the Marines. We went through sensitivity training and this behavior in not condoned. If you were to make a complaint it would go in his record making a permanent mark. I would let his wife and his buddies, which will likely find out straighten him out. I have been with Marines when they do stupid stuff like this and they are just looking for a fight, not exactly like this but close enough. I have had to physically pull them away before we end up in a brawl.
Take care Jean
cheryl reeves
05-30-2015, 12:30 PM
im going to open reply to the responses i recieved. i learned to really fight by my middle sis who would not take crap from anyone and she is far from being a sissy. i got bullied because i looked more like a girl then a guy,i was scrawny,no indication of muscle mass and those bullies learned real quick to listen to me when i told them to leave me alone. ive had dirtbags talk to me and make threats and i responded that they were beneath my time and energy,guess they heard the edge in my voice for they learned to leave me alone..lets put it this way i give off a aura that tells people mess with me and some one is going to get hurt. sure im not on hormones but ive seen a 125 lb girl take down a 250 lb jock with one kick,so just cause you identify as a sissy,dont make yourself one,self defense is more then fighting,it gives you a backbone on dealing with these peopke without a fight.. 27 yrs ago i lived in n.o. la. first job was at this day labor place that opened at 6am and was first come,first in line for the good jobs. prob was this place was in a real bad part of town,2nd day i got there at 5am and was dozing by the door when two huge black men approached me and asked if i was afraid to be here,i pointed to my car and said why should i be afraid,if i can put a 4 cly engine in the trunk of my car by myself why should i be afraid.( at rhus time i was 23 and weighed 138 and stood 6'1" and looked like a sissy)they did not believe me til i showed them the engine in my trunk,word got around to leave me be. so self defense is more then fighting.
Josephine
05-30-2015, 12:40 PM
Cheryl,
I am not saying you are wrong, you have a lot of valid points. Its just not for me. Maybe someday I will find a mentally and physically strong man with an attitude like you, to protect me.
Badtranny
05-30-2015, 01:54 PM
This thread reminds me of someone who used to post a long time ago.
During a thread about all the hugging that goes on when CDs meet at various events he posted something like "if anybody tries to hug me I'd probably break their arm".
I literally laughed out loud.
...and then I was just kinda sad.
Josephine
05-30-2015, 02:31 PM
I think the only way to truly understand us, is to be one of us. Nobody really understands us better, even the therapists. Unless you are transsexual taking the hormones and blockers, and doing all the other things to transition, you can never understand. A man never really will understand a woman!
Paulette
05-30-2015, 02:43 PM
Just remember you can not fix stupid! You did the correct thing by just letting the fool stew in his stupity.
Josephine
05-30-2015, 03:06 PM
badtranny, those are my thoughts exactly!
Paulette, I do believe I did the right thing too. When it happens again, and I am sure it will, I will do the same thing again.
Dianne S
05-30-2015, 08:09 PM
I, on the other hand, am a big sissy, weakling, etc., and always have been. The woman in me has always come through, even though I did my best to try to act like a male.
Women can be just as strong as men without sacrificing our femininity. My sisters and mother are among the strongest people I know.
Choosing how to react to a situation like the one you faced is highly personal and no-one can criticize how you handled it and how you plan to follow through (or not). But that's you... it's not that women are weak, it's just that you don't want confrontation and that's fine.
Cindi Johnson
05-30-2015, 10:00 PM
I'm a veteran (Viet Nam era) and I know that veterans are no different from others. Some are good, some are fools. This penchant prevalent now to call every veteran a "hero" is ludicrous. Anyway, the electrolysis around your lips likely hurt more than he's ever gonna hurt you.
I'm a veteran (Viet Nam era) and I know that veterans are no different from others. Some are good, some are fools. This penchant prevalent now to call every veteran a "hero" is ludicrous. Anyway, the electrolysis around your lips likely hurt more than he's ever gonna hurt you.
I agree wholeheartedly with this. At least, the calling every veteran a "hero" part .. haven't had electrolysis yet, not looking forward to it.
cheryl reeves
05-31-2015, 02:44 AM
try telling my wife she is weak,lol or my sisters or my mom that they are weak,i know women better then i know men. men to me are much harder to figure out,and ive had to pretend i was one of em. i learned at a early age some fights can be won without fighting,but if a fight were to happen make them never forget that wanting a fight was a bad option. i may never want to transition and i have my reasons for that,but that does not mean im ignorant,been dealing with this to long to be ignorant.
Aprilrain
05-31-2015, 04:04 AM
This penchant prevalent now to call every veteran a "hero" is ludicrous.
This is the most sober thing, regarding the military, I've read in a long time.
Wow there is enough testosterone in some of these posts to drop a transmans voice 2 octaves!
This sounds like a really scary situation, you did the only reasonable thing you could do, removed yourself from it.
Josephine
05-31-2015, 07:05 AM
No matter what you write, there are always critics! I never said or implied that women are weak. I said I am weak, not all women. Nor did I say that all veterans are hero's. I never called anyone ignorant or stupid. All I am saying is that if you have testosterone in your system, your emotions and reactions will be different than mine. Even your answers are driven by your testosterone. I am sure that someone out there will take these words out of context too.
STACY B
05-31-2015, 07:21 AM
Bad, Bad Deal all the way around, I would have bailed to it's not worth it. Just another DUMMY in a SEA of DUMMIES. That think everything is Black and White because this certain Problem does not pertain to them directly.
FEAR,,FEAR, (ANGER ) is a natural reaction to FEAR ! He feared YOU, Remember that, So when some Bone Head does it again just remember they fear you not the other way around.
An if it EVER gets to Crazy appeal to woman close by you an tell someone to call the Cops,9 times outta 10 the Bone head will Run away because of the fear of Cops. I would nave just moved to another table or asked the manager to do something, Embarass Him back.
It's not all that important to them really, Just trying to show off an prove his Man Hood anyway. Bet he had Pink Panties on just like you. Friggen SUPER MAN complex I'll bet. Most of those Sissies will cry like a Little Girl when the Cops get there ! :2c: :devil: :devil:
Dianne S
05-31-2015, 07:25 AM
Josephine,
I believe you did imply that women are weak, but I don't want to belabor the point... I do agree that your reaction was appropriate and that no-one has the right to tell anyone how to react. I doubt my answers were driven by testosterone because I've been on spiro for almost 9 months and my T levels are waaaay down.
It's tough being TS. It really is. So it helps to develop a somewhat thicker skin to deal with the problems life will throw at us.
Josephine
05-31-2015, 07:30 AM
Give me a break!!!!
mechamoose
05-31-2015, 07:35 AM
He is unable to see you. He has spent the last several years in a testosterone-laden, competitive, unforgiving environment. He doesn't know any better.
Credit him like the limited-view child he is. If it were some 10 year old saying that, you wouldn't feel threatened. The difference is his level of physical threat.
You have EVERY RIGHT to be who you are, and no jarhead can take that away. Some of our soldiers go out there and never come back, they treat the whole world like it was the battlefield. They are deluded and wrong.
He went out there to protect your right to wear that dress, (though he may not have been thinking about it t hat way) and to preserve your right to be yourself. He is just too close to it to see it.
I feel bad for him.
- MM
Jorja
05-31-2015, 07:35 AM
So I have read all the way through this thread. There was some good advice and bad. You now know these people are out there. It is real. Some people would rather see us dead than have to see us at all. Each and every time you walk out the door, know they are out there. Have a plan for your safety each time you step out the door.
Nigella
05-31-2015, 08:22 AM
As always, Jorja, the voice of reason :hugs:
Rogina B
05-31-2015, 10:16 PM
As Misty says, the loss of body strength changes the power dynamic in ways you obviously can't imagine. That changes the tactical approach as well.
There's a word to describe trans women who deal with this sort of thing in the way you suggest - statistic. If Josephine follows your suggestion then she might end up in a position where I could be reading her name at the TDOR memorial service in November. Let's not promote this sort of dumbassery, OK?
Exactly! Women are the smarter specie and have the ability to disarm these cavemen...
VanTG
06-01-2015, 12:06 AM
Don't know what to say to that behaviour but I hope it doesn't happen again. You have come so far so keep on going and look at it as just a bump in the road. A waste of space he is.
Hope you feel better with all the support on here.
scarlett
06-01-2015, 05:14 AM
How did you know that he was a Marine? In uniform? If so then you should have seen his name tag and noted it. A letter to his commanding officer will work wonders for his attitude. The Corps does not take kindly to embarrassment and misbehavior, ESPECIALLY in uniform.
donnalee
06-01-2015, 05:22 AM
Josephine, as far as self defense goes, you did enough to get out of the situation successfully, and that is no small thing.
1. You were in a public place.
2. You were minding your own business and not bothering anyone.
3. You saw that there could be a possible physical threat and acted to avoid it.
It is not your responsibility to be all things to all people and if people make hurtful comments, it is their problem, not yours.
You done good, kid.
Emma Beth
06-01-2015, 06:15 AM
Alright, the nerd and squid in me demand a word each.
First, I would like to say that the best self defense is to recognize the situation and remove yourself from it. That was great on your part Josephine. You are better at self defense than you realize or give yourself credit for.
The nerd says,
"Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." -Yoda-
The squid speaks.
MM, I have to politely correct you on one little point. You called Marines "Jarheads". While I do recognize this as an age old term for our marines. You simply can not call them that any more. The simplest reason for this is that you can put stuff inside of a jar. (Military humor)
Thank you,
Liz
JohnH
06-01-2015, 03:37 PM
This incident reminds me of what happened several years ago. I was wearing a denim skirt that does not look much different from standard men's shorts. I went up to the driveway of a buddy (male), and he comes out threatening to beat me for being a pervert. I really did not expect that kind of a response. This dude is a retired marine. I yelled at the top of my lungs back to him that if he harmed me I would press charges against him. When I yell at the top of my lungs people can hear me for blocks. As I was leaving a squad car came up to check out what was possibly going down.
John
Josephine
06-01-2015, 06:57 PM
Scarlett, In response to going after this guy through marine corps channels, I do not want to go after this guy at all, why look for trouble. I don't want him to have a reason to look for me. He was in uniform, but his name was on the other side anyway, so I could not read it.
I want to thank everyone for their input in this post, even if I do not agree with all, the thought that you all cared enough to answer makes me very happy. Thank You!!
CutieJulie
06-01-2015, 07:44 PM
This scares the heck out of me.
Robin414
06-09-2015, 11:17 PM
I was a little hasty in my last reply to this thread...sorry I'm a little new to the hormonal imbalance...what I meant to say was "you should have smiled politely and said 'Don't worry, I'm sure someone will shoot you soon enough ☺'"...seriously though I think you did the right thing and avoided the situation...it's not worth it and just remember there are more of us who understand than those of them that don't and our numbers are growing while theirs are falling 😄
cheryl reeves
06-10-2015, 01:35 AM
i agree the best defense is just walking away,but there comes a time when one should not be the one walking away the agressor should be the one walking or limping away....i have a problem with walking away from situations,if someone has a problem with me thats their problem and they can just walk away..what most transphobia people dont realize no all t.g.s are weak,they might look weak but they are not weak..like not all women are weak,they might look it and thats what gets alot of men in trouble..let me ask you if you were in a restaraunt and some alpha male told you to leave would you leave,see the moment you give ground they are going to want it all...i look like a sissy in male and fem mode,but i am far from a sissy for i dont give a inch,and alot of alpha males learned not all sissys are sissys...always remember a good offensive has a good defense..cheryl
stefan37
06-10-2015, 07:25 AM
Cheryl please. She wasn't physically attacked. She overheard some offensive comments directed at her. Confrontation could have only give south with the OP the on the losing end. For an individual that self identifies as TS and not transitioning in any way shape or form the testosterone oozing through your pores is overwhelming.
Women don't normally pick fights with individuals that are bigger than them. Certainly not for verbal assaults.
Tammy Lynn Tx
06-10-2015, 09:02 AM
Just remember..... He was not living by Abraham Lincoln's rule of thumb and proved Abe right. " it is better to remain silent and thought a fool than to speak up and remove all doubt. Good job in keeping yourself safe. Some make think you are weak by leaving, but every good tactician knows when retreat is best.
CONSUELO
06-10-2015, 11:48 AM
Sounds like a sick bully to me. The sort that many decades ago would be heading a lynching party in the deep South. Prejudiced, ignorant, stupid; all of the above and more.
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