Famous crossdressers

[Heelios]

Hi everyone,

I have been working hard recently on giving myself a bit of a break and not beating myself up about the fact I like to crossdress, learning self acceptance etc but it got me thinking - how many famous people out there that openly crossdress? And I mean hetro men/women who are crossdressers, not drag queens (gay) or those who have transitioned. Without looking online I can think of 1 - Eddie Izzard. I also heard that Lady Gaga sometimes performs dressed as a man so I guess that's actually 2! Without looking on The Internet can you think of any well known crossdressers and what are they famous for?

Also, and this may apply to UK based folk more so, what do you think of the current run of money supermarket ads? Is it a good thing or perhaps damaging to hoe people might perceive crossdressers? (Those who don't live in the UK can find the ad on YouTube - search money supermarket ads 2015) Personally, I'm not sure. I saw an interview with the guy strutting in heels and I get the impression he was gay although he never said he was so in some resects it may reinforce that thing with thee juggles that only gay fellas crossdress.. Whaddaya think?

[JeanetteX]

You probably dont know him but over here in the Netherlands we have a famous novelist called Maarten Hart who openly crossdresses. Nobody knew until some years ago he suddenly appeared en femme on a tv chat show and totally confessed and came out. Think he got loads of stick for it but I gave him every credit! Other than him I wouldn't know of any.

[kayegirl]

Nope can't think of any other famous cross dressers either.
The money supermarket add???? I'm not sure that anybody really perceives the man as a cross dresser, rather than just another actor in a very second rate ad. Personally I find the whole bunch of ads for these comparison sites to be utter rubbish, in fact so bad that I would never even consider using the product.
End of rant.

[Katey888]

Hi Heelios... glad to hear the self-acceptance is coming along - just remember it's society's fault for not appreciating just how creative and fabulous we all are! :battingeyelashes:

Without Googling - Hetero CD....? - I can add Grayson Perry (British artist who received his CBE from Prince Charles crossdressed) - is Kiefer Sutherland or is that just a rumour...? I think the difficult thing will be determining sexual preference as many will keep that quite private. That's probably all from memory...

Even with Google you won't add many... and then change 'famous' to 'influential' and I think this demonstrates that the stigma of our condition is alive and well across western society - the muggles will expect artists and actors to do weird and wacky things for their art, but anyone who wants to be taken seriously and maintain their male reputation keeps it firmly in their closet...

Sad, really... :(

Katey x

PS: Money Supermarket ad? Hate it - find it a little demeaning to both CDs and GGs..

[Lily Catherine]

Here in Singapore, radio DJ Dennis Chew a.k.a. Auntie Lucy comes to mind. Mostly of local fame, a recurring personality, but not at all famous worldwide.

That said, NIMBY is still everywhere despite his popularity...

[BLUE ORCHID]

Heelios, My favorite Crossdresser was Bugs Bunny.:daydreaming:

[Ineke Vashon]

Joan of Arc comes to mind. Oh, wait, I believe that was before internet.:devil:

Ineke

[Ninna]

In Mexico we have a youtuber famous transgender girl, she is Victoria Volkova she is a very cute girl I watch always her videos in youtube, has a very great style!

[Teresa]

Heelios,
I commented about the ad a while ago, I found it thoughtless and tasteless ! My wife is OK with it but I can imagine what goes through her mind, but can you imagine if someone is in dire straights with their CDing or they've gone through a separation over it ! Besides I can't see the connection with price comparison advice !

Famous people, who CD , Ed Wood, J Edgar Hoover ( I hope I've got the name right !) Grayson Perry as Katie said, I haven't made the Who's Who list yet so you won't see Teresa on the list !

[Aleca]

John Travolta, Dennis Rodman?

[rockerreds]

Ed Wood
Dan Dailey
Marvin Gaye
David Johansen
Buzz Bissinger

[audreyinalbany]

checked out the ad…sets back the perception of cross dressers by a good twenty years

[Judith96a]

Heelios,
I'm inclined to agree with Katey and Teresa regarding the MoneySupermarket ad. I find it pretty creepy and demeaning.

[Li'l Miss]

What about Dennis Rodman?

[Joni T]

J . Edgar Hoover.

[Lorileah]

I wouldn't claim Dennis Rodman. Just saying he isn't someone I would use as a role model for crossdressing. John Travolta? Other than his role in Hairspray?

May be a good caveat to say "real" crossdressers and not people who dressed for roles.

[Mink]

not sure how much musical performers count.... cuz sometimes it's just for a larf / shock ? performance!

Marilyn Manson
Kurt Cobain / Nirvana dudes
Steven Tyler of Aerosmith
Scott Weiland of Stone Temple Pilots (confessed on Craig Kilborn to enjoying wearing panties and bras ...?! the confession made kilby / craiggers quite nervous~ haha!)
Bradford Cox of Deerhunter
DAVID frickin BOWIE
Homer Simpson (strictly a comfort thing! as he discussed...)

[mikayla1964]

Patrick swayze

[Alexis08]

Aren't they called drag queens if they're only doing it for entertaining purpose? Is there any celebrity who came out as a crossdresser after becoming famous?

[Persephone]

Lord Cornbury (Edward Hyde, 3rd Earl of Clarendon) was appointed as the British Governor of New York and New Jersey, 1701-1708. Cornbury is reported to have opened the 1702 New York Assembly clad in a hooped gown and an elaborate headdress and carrying a fan, imitative of the style of Queen Anne. When his choice of clothing was questioned, he replied, "You are all very stupid people not to see the propriety of it all. In this place and occasion, I represent a woman (The Queen), and in all respects I ought to represent her as faithfully as I can." He was apparently also seen crossdressed on numerous other occasions. Unfortunately, his administration was marked by graft and corruption and there are some who regard him as "the worst governor Britain ever appointed to an American colony."

The Chevalier D'Eon (Charles-Geneviève-Louis-Auguste-André-Timothée d'Éon de Beaumont) began his life as a man, born in 1728. He was a soldier, a spy, and a diplomat. Very high in the political circles of his day. At the age of 49, in 1777, he began to dress as a woman and claimed he had been born female. He spent the next 33 years of life as a woman. Eon's sex was so disputed that it was the subject of a betting pool on the London Stock Exchange!

At one point, exiled from France, Eon struck a deal with King Louis XVI of France that permitted Eon's return, but only if Eon continued to live and dress as a female! Oddly enough, Eon, dressed and living as a woman, was Royally allowed to continue to wear the insignia of the Order of Saint-Louis, an honor achieved in Eon's male life.

Upon Eon's death the medical examinener declared Eon to have been physically male.

Francois De Choisy was born in 1644. His mother dressed him as a little girl. (His playmate, Philippe I, was also dressed as a little girl, possibly to keep his older brother, King Louis XIV, from seeing him as a threat to the Crown). When De Choisy grew older he tried men's clothes for a while, but then went back to women's clothes for pretty much all of his life. He was very popular, particularly with the ladies of his day. He died in 1724 and his racy and revealing book, The Transvestite Memoirs, was published in 1737.

Hugs,
Persephone.

[Sarah-RT]

One of the most famous crossdressers I can think of is of course Joan of arc! And God was okay with her doing it too!

Jokes aside I can't think of any others apart from Eddie izzard

Sarah x

[Diane1950]

Anyone remember Milton Berle from the early days of television?
How about Flip Wilson as Geraldine the Playboy Bunny?

[Persephone]

Oh! I almost forgot!

Catalina de Erauso, one of the wildest women ever! She escaped from a convent in 1599, at the age of 15, dressed as a boy (she had apparently made boy's clothes out of her underwear). She joined the Spanish army and, in 1603, was shipped off to fight in the Americas! She fought valiantly, helping Spain conquor Peru and played her role, uh, to the hilt, even toying with pretty girls. In 1624 the Pope granted her the right to remain in male attire. She is still a folktale celebrity.

Hugs,
Persephone.

[Candice June Lee]

Ithink i remember Elmer Fudd i fem attire once
a movie that starred Patrick Swayze, Wesley Snipes, and ankther.
Milton Berle, Micheal J Fox, several others in old time tv did it.
most notably remembered, Tim Curry in the Rocky Horror Picture Show.

[Lorileah]

geeze make ONE movie dressed as a woman and you are a crossdresser for life? I still would like to see this list stay with people who crossdress because they want to, not because it is a job they had. And I wonder, was Joan D'Arc a crossdresser or was she Transsexual?

Otherwise you can add Jeffery Tambor, Jaye Davidson, Felicity Huffman to a list of TSs

[Ilsa]

Two who were character actors playing in crossdressing roles are Tom Hanks in 'Bosom Buddies' along with Peter Scolari and Cary Grant in 'I Was A Male War Bride.'

For you young folk look it up!

:wheelchair: No! I'm not there yet!

Always Ilsa

My apologizes to anyone offended by my reference to Old Age.

PS - Who's to say that some of these actors mentioned in this thread weren't closeted and the roles they played were an opportunity to express their real selves.

[justmetoo]

There's a difference between an entertainer (or anyone else for that matter) who dresses as the opposite gender for entertainment purposes and a crossdresser who dresses for other reasons (whether it's fetish or personal expression or a "fashion statement" or whatever). While some people who have crossdresssed for entertainment purposes may also be crosdressers in the other sense we can't know that unless they come out and say so (or other evidence comes to light). I'd prefer to let people say for themselves what their own labels are.

Well known people who are open about their crossdressing? The ones I can think of off-hand have already been mentioned. Eddie Izzard, Grayson Perry, and a few others. Oh, there have been a few famous men who have been known to wear women's clothing and be more or less open about it, but I don't know if they have actually labeled themselves CD; such as Iggy Pop.

[iGenny]

I did a web search for one of the names I didn't know, and this link was near the top of the search results (from 2006) -

http://www.crossdressers.com/forums/showthread.php?42790-Famous-People-That-Crossdress(ed)

[Vickie_CDTV]

J Edgar Hoover being a crossdresser is just an urban legend
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2423/was-j-edgar-hoover-a-cross-dresser

I just saw the supermarket ad people were talking about... I don't get it? Is it a reference to something? Is there a reason he is wearing heels and such ridiculously short and tight short shorts?

[Robin414]

Patrick swayze

Seriously? I know about the movie gig but in real life (IRL)?

[Tracii G]

I don't count movie roles sorry.

[Davinnia]

Hollywood legend Esther Williams claimed that leading man Jeff Chandler was a crossdresser & that he had the latest Paris fashions. In her autobiography she told him " Jeff, you're too big to wear polkadots " I'm sure many youngsters here won't have heard of either of these stars.

[Stephanie_83]

I guess Alexander Skarsgard just showed up to a movie premier in full drag - he sounded pretty respectful of it, too: http://www.buzzfeed.com/lyapalater/alexander-skarsgard-explains-why-he-dressed-in-drag-and-reve#.snV0N80Y7k

[Ninna]

One of the most famous crossdressers I can think of is of course Joan of arc! And God was okay with her doing it too!

Jokes aside I can't think of any others apart from Eddie izzard

Sarah x
hahaha that's a good one!

[HollyGreene]

J
I just saw the supermarket ad people were talking about... I don't get it? Is it a reference to something? Is there a reason he is wearing heels and such ridiculously short and tight short shorts?

We in the UK don't get it, either. That company have been using the tagline "You're SO Money Supermarket", in all their advertising campaigns since they started, but I've never been able to work out what that means. I'm guessing it means that you do things differently - not like the crowd.
Just like KayeGirl said, I hate that ad so much, that I would never use them.

[Heelios]

Some good responses here but just to clarify I meant people who actually choose to crossdress - I wasn't thinking necessarily about those that have crossdressered as part of a role on a film or TV show (television! :D). And it would appear that the numbers are low... I will look some of the, up that I have not heard of though.

Persephone - some interesting examples from history there which makes me think of all the aristocracy from middle age England and how all the gents would dress up in flamboyant garms, heeled shoes, massive wigs and tons of make up! And they'd have enormous paintings done of them selves, probably at great expense, and hung up in their mansions to show off to their friends.

As far as the money super market ad is concerned it in undoubtably a pile of, ahem, dogs droppings. And now we also have the one of the somewhat over weight fella pole dancing. Also stinking of canine faeces. And to think people get paid a fortune to come up with this shit. I don't watch a lot of mainstream TV these days especially commercial TV and when I do I always mute the ads but that one caught my attention for obvious reasons.

[Princess Chantal]

Hmmm I wonder how many of the names mentioned would be crossed off the list because they are/were not heterosexual, but bisexual. Lady Gaga is proudly bisexual. The only known crossdresser/transvestite that has described himself as heterosexual is Izzard. I guess they don't really care to connect their sexuality to crossdressing

[Barbara Black]

I've no proof but I think John Travolta enjoys dressing aside from his career dressing, and along with him, Tom Cruise (I can just picture him with lipstick and trying to hide his enjoyment), but it may just be a gay thing with those two. With all their money and power, it wouldn't surprise me that they could hide it from the public successfully.

[Katey888]

The only known crossdresser/transvestite that has described himself as heterosexual is Izzard. I guess they don't really care to connect their sexuality to crossdressing

Grayson Perry is married with a child and I can't find anything that has indicated him declaring bisexuality, so that would make him #2 :) (He did share a squat with Boy George as a student, but I don't think anyone here will subscribe to the belief that just sharing somewhere with someone who's gay makes you gay as well... OK, maybe there are a few numpties here... ;))

I do think this counters a little of the belief that our condition is becoming more accepting and that there are many of us... At the risk of being a broken record, you don't reveal being a CD/TV to anyone if you want to continue to be taken seriously - being TG/TS is seen as distinctly different but the muggles are still hugely confused over what and why CD's are what they/ we are... :thinking:

Katey x

[Taylor186]

If I remember right it was Marvin Gaye's father who was a crossdresser, not Marvin himself. Though sometimes it was a hard call with those crazy 80s fashions.

Richard Simmons crossdesses a lot, but I'm pretty sure hetero he is not.

[BillieJoEllen]

As I recall, David Carradine was wearing panties when he accidentally choked himself to death.

[Lorileah]

rumors and innuendos. I really don't see what sexuality has to do with any of this. On some of these I think a few people here should work for the Enquirer.

And why hasn't anyone mentioned Sir Elton?

[Katey888]

And why hasn't anyone mentioned Sir Elton?

Because Sir Reggie is defo not hetero and the OP specifically said:


And I mean hetro men/women who are crossdressers, not drag queens (gay) or those who have transitioned.

Even so - he's still just another artiste and a little wayward fashion sense is all part of the show, isn't it... ;)

There just aren't any, are there... Has anyone thought it might be because CDing itself is a barrier to exceptional performance in any field...? (NB: I am NOT talking TS here - I'll have enough brickbats to deal with from just the larger slice of membership... :devil:)

Really... think about how obsessive we get about this thing; how much it preoccupies us... not saying it's our fault, but it can't half be distracting...

:stirthepot:

Katey x

[Chrissy1966]

Monty Python's Flying Circus. "I don't like Spam!" :)

[Alexis08]

I mean hetro men/women who are crossdressers, not drag queens (gay)

Oh, I didn't see that sentence.. so I'm automatically a drag queen just because I'm attracted to men? How silly.. How old are you, OP?

[Suzanne F]

Buzz Bissenger who just wrote Vanity Fair article about Caitlyn Jenner. He also wrote Friday Night Lights.
Suzanne

[arbon]

Brian Molko of the band Placibo

[Ezekiel]

Stas Fedyanin.

Not famous outside of Russia and the world of modeling, but he is hetero, and you wanted hetero so there you go.

[AngelaYVR]

Nobody mention Lou Reed yet!

[Katey888]

From Wikipedia - re Lou Reed:


In the 1970s, Reed had a distinctive persona: "Back then he was publicly gay...in 1980, Reed .... became openly heterosexual, openly married."

Does that mean he qualifies or not...? (can you revert to being heterosexual after being gay... wouldn't that just mean you're non-practicing bisexual...? :confused:) And did he crossdress that much...?

Perhaps we need a tighter, more mainstream definition for 'famous' too... :facepalm:

Katey x

[Taylor186]

In my book Lou Reed is super famous. Maybe you have to be of a certain age to think this. But, writing and singing a song about crossdressers does not make you one.

walk on the wild side live (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKOQapYcyhE)

[Katey888]

For the record, I wasn't thinking that Lou Reed wasn't famous... :)

Maybe just go back a few posts...

[Eryn]

Pancho Barnes, born Florence Lowe. She was a daughter of a wealthy family, married off to a preacher, who left him and signed onto a banana boat as a crewman. She traveled to Mexico and then returned overland, largely on horseback, all while crossdressed as a man. Later, she became a famous aviatrix, the founder of the Hollywood Stunt Pilot's Association, and the friend of many of the prominent figures of the Golden Age of Aviation at her Happy Bottom Riding Club near Edwards Air Force Base.

She learned to fly in the '20s. At that time, the licensing organization was very hesitant to issue licenses to women. She submitted the following photo with her application:

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The license was issued, signed by Orville Wright!

[sometimes_miss]

Rupaul, I'm not sure where he fits in, but he really does like dressing up, even if he did make a career out of it. Devine also, I believe though doing it professionally initially, also just did it for himself. There was a guy who used to rollerskate all over manhattan in a brides dress though I don't know his name, all I can remember is something like rollerina but I don't think that's it. J Edgar Hoover, well we will never really know. So many of us are closeted that he may have been, and just very good at hiding it. He was a very smart guy. Do we get to include 'Bruce' Jenner and Andrea/j Petkovic, (pre admitting to TS?). After all, they didn't know what they were for years. I think there was also a French King that dressed up and had pictures of himself painted as a woman maybe? that's all I can think of off the top of my head.

[rockerreds]

If I remember right it was Marvin Gaye's father who was a crossdresser, not Marvin himself. Though sometimes it was a hard call with those crazy 80s fashions.

Richard Simmons crossdesses a lot, but I'm pretty sure hetero he is not.
In the David Ritz book Marvin said he crossdressed sometimes.

[Krisi]

Dressing as a female for TV shows or movies does not make one a crossdresser. Neither does dressing as a woman for Halloween or dressing as part of an act. The term "crossdresser encompasses a wide variety of dressing from wearing panties to living full time as a woman.

Most famous people would keep their crossdressing secret. I can't think of one who is open about it.

[AngelaYVR]

Lou Reed was cagey when asked about cross dressing (he replied "sometimes" when asked if he was a 'transvestite or homosexual'.) I tend to think he did purely because of his fascination with the subject (and also illicit substances). Also, he was famous at the time and has several enduring songs, that means he qualifies.

[Persephone]

Jaden Smith, Will and Jada Smith's son, wore a dress to a prom. He has also worn dresses and skirts when out-and-about. Does "man in a dress." Not sure if he is crossdressing or just regards the world as a big cosplay site.

Hugs,
Persephone.

[AZashleemarie]

Not sure if anyone mentioned Oscar De La Hoya yet

[Taylor186]

In the David Ritz book Marvin said he crossdressed sometimes.

OK, we will never know the real answer but there are plenty on posts on the Marvin Gay Fourm that say David Ritz and some other author are wrong when they suggested that Marvin crossdressed. No question about his dad though.

While I was googling for that I found a link with a few names not yet mentioned. http://www.newser.com/story/175757/10-celebrity-cross-dressers.html

And, if we are going on hearsay then I will add that some time ago I read that Jerry Hall said that Mick loved to crossdress.

[kkaye]

You must agree. Famous people have an avenue to express themselves as a matter of acting or comedy. My favorite was Flip Wilson and Melton Berle. They did not hide or deny their love of crossdressing.

[Sarah-RT]

Oh I remembered one, the UK..porn star..or model..or both?! Jordan, had a boyfriend who was in the UFC was a public crossdresser, she released a biography and him, her brother and father all went in drag to promote it, I think his name was Alex, I'll do a Google search

Ah yes, it was Katie ( Jordan ) price's ex husband Alex Reid who occasionally went by "roxanne", but seemingly from the Wikipedia he was into some less than safe for work practices as well.

[Sarah Doepner]

Obviously it's quite a struggle to come up with much of a list of well known crossdressers, let alone a list of well known and respected crossdressers. It does suggest we have a way to go before there are role models for both the public and crossdressers.

[justmetoo]

I think Greta Garbo might count - although she was an entertainer she did sometimes dress in men's suits in real life. But I don't think she tried to pass as male. I guess it depends on whether you define crossdressing as simply wearing the clothes of another gender or restrict the definition to someone who tries to emulate another gender by use of clothing, makeup, wigs or hairstyles, possibly names, mannerisms, etc. And even if they do more than just the clothing, does it count as crossdressing if they do it if they do it to live the kind of life they want? For example, the many cases throughout history where women passed themselves off as men in order to fight as soldiers in various wars, to accompany explorations, work as stagecoach drivers, etc. Probably some of those were TG, maybe some were CD, and maybe some were cisgendered GGs who did what they had to to live as they wanted in a man's world.

[Paula_Femme]

Richard O'Brien, probably most famous for creating "Rocky Horror..." and playing "Riff Raff," these days lives a somewhat gender-fluid life.

"It's my belief that we are on a continuum between male and female. There are people who are hardwired male and there are people who are hardwired female, but most of us are on that continuum and I believe myself probably to be about 70% male, 30% female."

You can read more of his story here (http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-21788238).

[Leslie Langford]

To expand on Davinnia's post (above)...

1940's and '50's actor Jeff Chandler - and husband of famed movie star and swimming sensation Esther Williams - was also allegedly a crossdresser. Here's what the "classicmovieguys" blog had to say about that:

"JEFF CHANDLER (Esther’s costar in 1958′s “Raw Wind in Eden” and later her lover, in what was supposed to be an off-camera romantic rendezvous): This is probably the most memorable moment captured in Esther’s book. “I froze at the bedroom door and started screaming. I couldn’t stop myself…I just stood there in the center of the doorway and screamed.” What was all the fuss about? Well, Esther had just stumbled not only into Chandler’s boudoir but also into the realization that her lover was a crossdresser. “He was standing in the middle of the bedroom in a red wig, a flowered chiffon dress, expensive high-heeled shoes and lots of makeup.” (Since Chandler stood 6-feet-4 inches, it must have been quite a sight.) “‘Take that off! Take that off now!’ I yelled.” (Chandler’s death from in a botched back operation in June of 1961, sent Esther grieving about “for that good lovable man who almost had been my husband.”)"


Also, a question for all you Brits out there - what's the concensus on Benny Hill - merely a "clown prince", or perhaps a secret crossdresser as well? Sure had a penchant for doing skits in drag, though...

Mick Jagger also seemed to have an affinity for crossdressing, and even had a minor role in a movie some years ago where he appeared in drag. Cillian Murphy of "Breakfast on Pluto" and other films? Sure made a fine-looking girl - almost too fine - in that one. Hmmm...

And let's not forget James Franco who did drag as a presenter at an Academy Awards show a few years ago, as well as appearing on the cover of a TG-themed magazine in the recent past.

I've often wondered about Dustin Hoffman as well. A few years back during an interview, he commented on the fact that his role as "Tootsie" allowed him to get in touch with his feminine side in a way that he wasn't expecting and that it also gave him a greater awareness of what women had to deal with in today's world. Rumor has it that it took him a long time to get rid of "Tootsies' " wardrobe, which had defaulted to him after the movie was done shooting. ;)

[Katey888]

Benny Hill..? Clown prince definitely... Gay - possibly... but no more a crossdresser than any actor that has worn a dress for the pursuit of a role or a laugh, just as any actor or actress sharing a homosexual scene in a movie reveals nothing of their real sexuality. I can find only one crossdressing fashion designer, but again it's more accepted by society as being a part of 'creative talent'... Or actually muggles really just think it's still all just weird and eccentric...

Eccentric is probably the nicest thoughts anyone could have... :)

Sarah's summed it up quite well so far...


It does suggest we have a way to go before there are role models for both the public and crossdressers.

Quite so - where are the crossdressing:
* CEOs
* Industrialists
* Civic leaders and politicians
* Civil servants
* Senior police staff
* Surgeons and doctors...

Perhaps the only ones who are prepared to go public with this are those with little or nothing to lose from the subsequent stigma...? :thinking: Society does have a long way to go yet...

Katey x

[Teresa]

Katey,
Showing my age here but Dick Emery appeared to like the dressing up as did Stanley Baxter ! Evens bet that they enjoyed some off stage Cding !
Also I recall Charles Hawtrey ( Carry On Films actor ) lived with his mother and was a CDer .

[Mark/Rebecca]

I know Cary Grant was mentioned previously for a movie role, but his ex girlfriend revealed in her autobio on their relationship that he wore ladies panties exclusively.

[Alexis08]

James Franco - He has dressed as a woman several times and has appeared in drag queens magazine.

Cristiano Ronaldo - he loved borrowing his ex GF's clothes in private according to her who showed a few pics of him wearing her minishrit and high heels. I don't think i've seen him happier.

[Elli87]

John Wayne, He did it in private he did it for recreation and relaxation. He recommended it for everybody. Or so I heard, those enterwebs can trick ya sometimes

[CONSUELO]

What I find interesting is that despite three pages of replies to the question, not many certain examples are coming up. Perhaps this tells us more about cross dressers in general that they are mostly very private persons who keep cross dressing to themselves and do not share it publicly.

Several decades ago we could have asked the same question about well-known persons who were gay and found that many kept it very hidden. Would we have known about Tim Cook,CEO of Apple being gay twenty or more years ago? Now it is acceptable to come out as gay but not quite so acceptable to come out as a cross dresser.

One post made me smile. It was the statement that Cary Grant always wore female underwear. Many years ago we were on the same plane from London to LAX and stood just a few feet apart in the queue for immigration. It tickles me to think that perhaps there were at least two males on that plane dressed in knickers.

[Persephone]

Cary Grant starred in a 1949 movie, "I Was A Male War Bride," in which he dressed as a woman. Rumor has it that they had to make him camp it up as he was too good at it when the scenes were first shot.

The entire movie appears to be available on YouTube as well as from other sources.

Hugs,
Persephone.

[Rhaenerys]

Hi (first post...)

This probably sounds silly, but believe it or not, the Money Supermarket ads contributed towards me coming out to my girlfriend about my proclivities. The advert showed up one night and she joked about me wearing those shorts and heels... Well, suffice to say her reaction was favourable enough that I eventually told her all about my interests a few weeks later (after a couple bottles of wine each...)

That said, I wasn't impressed with the advert because it leans too heavily on the CDing-as-a-joke trope... Conflicted, but it definitely helped me personally!

[CONSUELO]

Just found another person who is getting some attention in the UK press. Her name is Kellie Maloney and in her past life she was a well-known boxing impresario. She is attracting attention at the moment with a lot of glamour shots that are being reproduced in the UK press.
Perhaps some of the girls in the UK could fill in the background details

[Kelli Jo-ann]

I read in a magazine once that Daniel Gregg enjoys crossdressing.
Also there was the guy from Fleetwood Mac I read about also. These where both magazine interview articles.

[Ezekiel]

Kellie Maloney, used to be boxing manager of Lennox Lewis, heavyweight champion of boxing. For those who don't know her:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kellie_Maloney

But by the way, we are talking about crossdressers here Consuelo, not TS. So she would not count in what the OP is asking.

[sugarbabe]

What I'm getting out of all this is that one of you girls needs to get famous.

[Katey888]

What I find interesting is that despite three pages of replies to the question, not many certain examples are coming up. Perhaps this tells us more about cross dressers in general that they are mostly very private persons who keep cross dressing to themselves and do not share it publicly.

I think it also tells us of another myth around here: the myth of growing acceptance... I think we keep it private because we are deeply fearful of repercussions on our loved ones, careers, reputation... Not saying I'm not amongst that group, I am. I think it puts acceptance in the context of a very thin veneer over a big chunk of deep-seated bigotry... sadly... :(


Several decades ago we could have asked the same question about well-known persons who were gay and found that many kept it very hidden. Would we have known about Tim Cook,CEO of Apple being gay twenty or more years ago? Now it is acceptable to come out as gay but not quite so acceptable to come out as a cross dresser.


Agreed - but I also think it's relevant that Tim Cook came out officially AFTER he'd made it to the top... :thinking: Even amongst the LGB community it still makes sense to some folk to keep their sexuality out of the public domain - and actually isn't that wholly reasonable?

Because what we do transgresses societal norms AND it's overt (if we choose to go public), unlike sexuality which can easily remain covert, we may be more easily discriminated against...

No fair! But while there are surely some amongst the great and the good, they sure don't trust the way society can behave towards us once we go public. The longer this thread continues without notable examples, the more depressing it seems.. :cry:

Katey x

[Robin414]

I read in a magazine once that Daniel Gregg enjoys crossdressing.

Awesome pick up! I've seen a you tube video of Daniel Craig as a woman, an ad for woman's rights I think...in any case, quite good and worth a Google search!

[ShriekCassandra]

Iggy Pop?

[deirdre travesty]

Hi everyone,

I have been working hard recently on giving myself a bit of a break and not beating myself up about the fact I like to crossdress, learning self acceptance etc but it got me thinking - how many famous people out there that openly crossdress? And I mean hetro men/women who are crossdressers, not drag queens (gay) or those who have transitioned. Without looking online I can think of 1 - Eddie Izzard. I also heard that Lady Gaga sometimes performs dressed as a man so I guess that's actually 2! Without looking on The Internet can you think of any well known crossdressers and what are they famous for?

Also, and this may apply to UK based folk more so, what do you think of the current run of money supermarket ads? Is it a good thing or perhaps damaging to hoe people might perceive crossdressers? (Those who don't live in the UK can find the ad on YouTube - search money supermarket ads 2015) Personally, I'm not sure. I saw an interview with the guy strutting in heels and I get the impression he was gay although he never said he was so in some resects it may reinforce that thing with thee juggles that only gay fellas crossdress.. Whaddaya think?

Mother Teresa.

Doesn't pass though.

[theresa renee]

Brian Molko of the band Placibo

:)

also, does dame edna count?

[Charlyne]

Matt Lauer has crossdressed for Halloween a number of times. I think I remember an interview that he said he liked it.

[Amari]

No. Dame Edna is just one of Barry Humphries regular stage characters, along with Sir Les Patterson and Sandy Stone.

[Charlotte Haynes]

Richard Branson...I've seen pictures of him dressed as an Air Stewardess, and also on two separate occasions as a bride. These were clearly publicity stunts...but three times?