Forced feminization

[Ninna]

Hi girls! Well my succesfull thread was the CD fantasies! I love fantasies, but I want to know more of a special one! Yes a forced feminization speciffic made by a GG I really dream about a GG or a lot of GG'S forcing me to drees as a woman, of course i'm happy with that but I pretend that I don't as a part of the fantasy! Well girls what do you think about it? You think that i have rare thought???

[Lorileah]

N.B. let's keep this PG people, remember rules.

Ninna, it is a very common fantasy.

[docrobbysherry]

As Lori said, this is a common CD fantasy. When I first began dressing at age 50, it played thru my mind often. 17 years later, I often become that burdened female from those early fantasies.

Maybe when u live your fantasies they vanish? I haven't fantisized a forced fem situation in quite some time now.

[Ninna]

N.B. let's keep this PG people, remember rules.

Ninna, it is a very common fantasy.

Sorry :(

[Teresa]

Ninna,
When my dressing first started at 9 and many years after I had the recurring dream of being made to dress which developed into being in a sexual situation with a woman and being trapped in clothes joined together with hers . Sometimes that fantasy comes back at one point I asked my wife to make me underdress to do my work around the home but that was like lighting a blue touch paper , she didn't see the fun side of it !

You're probably aware of certain web sites that cater more for fantasies, after a while they lose their attraction but some people are well into it .

[Jenniferathome]

if you are a cross dresser, why would you need to have someone "force" you to cross dress? in fact, I submit that one can never "force" a cross dresser to cross dress. Is that really a cross dressing fantasy or is it more about S&M?

[Persephone]

Actually, there is more than one way in which "forced feminization" by a group of GG's can occur and it may not be quite what you expect.

I'll use my own sstory for example. Once I began to go out en femme I developed groups of friends who only knew me as a female. That meant that I had to be dressed and in character anytime I was with them. Well, I had lots of places that I still went en drab, my religious congregation being one of them. I was preparing to go to services one day when I discovered that an entire group of female friends was planning on attending my congregation! Now, if I was going to attend, I was forced to attend en femme. And, of course, once I attended a few times en femme it was expected (and they continued to attend) so I had to continue to attend en femme.

Then it became restaurants and other places that I went with my friends. Once you become known somewhere you pretty much are forced to continue to go to that place en femme.

So the circle grows, and pretty soon you become scared of being seen in male attire.

Trust me, it's true, it happened to me.

Hugs,
Persephone.

[Loni]

it would not have been much forcing to get me into anything pretty as a young girl.

more a wish than fantasy.

but never came true.


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[prene]

For me it was my way of coming out.

You know the easier way ... on Halloween, I dressed and had a few gg's help me.
Well I cannot say I was forced and I loved their help.
On what to wear and makeup and such.

Prene

[PaulaQ]

Just give yourself permission to be who you really are - whatever that is. I had these fantasies too, from a very early age - like 10. I was just looking for permission to do what I needed to do.

[Amanda James]

I have fantasized for many years that my wife would catch me in my maids outfit , take pictures and force me to dress like a real maid everyday . I'm sure I would not enjoy this in real life as much as I do in my fantasy.

[BLUE ORCHID]

Hi Ninna, I guess we have all had that fantasy at one time or another.:daydreaming:

[Danitgirl1]

Nope, sorry never been my 'thing'
Maybe I am REALLY kinky for not having this fantasy???
:-P

[Meghan4now]

Ninna,

Interesting question. The psychology of FF fantasy is varied, and is common for CDS, wannabes and plain old strait guys too. Often "forced" fantasies are a response to the recognition of a desire, real or fantasy, which is offset by the nonacceptance of that fantasy. In short, forced gives permission and absolves guilt.

They MADE me do it, it wasn't me! There are other reasons for the fantasy, but this is most prevalent I think. Once one is comfortable with dressing, and in public, the need to justify it by being forced may dissipate?

@ Jennifer, I love to wear women's clothes, but would have to be forced to do the sissy thing. Little girl stuff kind of creeps me out. I hope not to offend anyone here that's into it, but not my cup of tea. So a CD could be forced, but that would be a nightmare not a fantasy.

[Sarah-RT]

I think it would be impossible for many of us to say we haven't but I reckon the reasoning behind this is as I once read in another thread, being forced to do something you secretly like takes away any need to explain, if you get caught dressed as a woman you would try and explain the situation where as if you were forced to dress it takes away any guilt of admitting you dressed yourself that way.

[Jennifer in CO]

I agree with Persephone, it does happen. Just not the way I think the OP wants. My whole transition back in 81 was in some respects FF. When your doing hormones, your body reaches a point that living life as a woman as opposed to a skinny man with large female breasts is just easier. So, you transition. I was already 14/7 anyway. Thankfully I had a Doctor who could verify with my work what was going on and a very progressive workplace (owned by a staunch Conservative Republican no less) that made going 24/7 possible. Heck, they even fired a guy for giving me crap (when a guy 'accidentally' dumps a coke in your lap...twice...and calls you a fag to your face in the break room that kind or crap). But, I was outed because I had put the company first in the first place so that may have had something to do with the owner's support.

Anyway...it happens

[LucyNewport]

I agree that these are very common fantasies. Also that it is a way to deal with the guilt of wanting to crossdress. Personally I gravitate toward stories or mental images where I have more agency - like I'm the one who seeks out the feminization, but then events conspire to take it too far. In my own fantasies it always ends up permanent. To each their own I guess!

[Yoshisaur]

Funnily enough I haven't put too much thought about forced feminization fantasies. I could like it or hate it depending on the intention behind the forcefulness of it.

[Cindi Johnson]

In real life it doesn't happen. Few if any GG's would get pleasure feminizing a male. I'm not a shrink so I won't try to explain why the fantasy is enjoyed by many of us. But let's face it, most fiction is not realistic. I suspect real CIA agents mostly sit in dingy cubicles within bland gov't buildings, unlike Mission Impossible characters who spend lifetimes doing impossible feats, day after day. A movie made about a real CIA agent (overweight, balding, typical male) wouldn't be very big at the box office. What I'm saying is that yes, forced feminization is a fantasy, but so what? Some TG girls take offense that it's even written; I think they are a tad too sensitive.

TG fiction, like all fiction, needs conflict (psychological or physical), otherwise it'll be boring. True memoirs, I believe, are somewhat different; I've read most of them which have been written by TG individuals, from Conundrum onward. I relate to them. Their personal struggles -which are not forced- relate to my personal life. Often I can see my life tends to parallel theirs. But fiction, unlike memoirs, demands a plot with serious conflict.

I did write a number of stories with forced feminization plot lines (they're posted on the Fictionmania website). I've noticed that those who's protagonist eventually accepts his fate are less popular than stories whose protagonist never accepts and always suffers.

As I've aged and moved more and more along that M to F line, I've noticed that forced feminization literature doesn't interest me as much as before. Just as such storylines apparently have no interest to GG's, as I become mentally and physically more female, they have less hold on me (although I do still enjoy reading it, just not as often).

Cindi Johnson

[Sissy_Michelle]

Ninna,

As a fantasy, it sounds like fun. But in real life... Too many variables to worry about, at least for me. Although to answer your question, I have had those thoughts and fantasies. Depending on how many GGs it could be a lot of fun. I could do it.

@--}----
Michelle

[Lily Catherine]

It's not my own cup of tea, though having read stories revolving around forced feminisation I can venture a guess as to why it's a thing. Perhaps it is the stereotypical humiliation and guilt that surfaces from being stuck in said situation I guess, or the complete absolution of the one being feminised.

I personally would consider it a nightmare to have the stereotypes of forced feminisation imposed on me. I had one particularly vivid dream involving a GG dressing me in a maid uniform for no particular reason, squealing over my alleged cuteness and imposing particularly humiliating situations on me. It was bad, and nowhere near sexy, but nowhere near awkward either.

I would rather be girled up out of my own volition rather than have it forced on me.

[NicoleScott]

"Forced" should be in quotes, because it takes willing subject. Really, it's not forced. Anyway.....
My earliest fantasy of this was mowing a lawn for a beautiful neighbor woman who invited me inside for a glass of ice cold lemonade after the mowing was done. I was dirty and sweaty, so she offered me a shower. While I was in the shower, she put my clothes in the washing machine and offered me something of hers (lingerie) to wear while my clothes are washed and dried. And then another item....the feminization continued...with my mild token resistance...ending with a wig, makeup, stockings and high heels. And my obvious arousal which she took care of.

[michelleddg]

Forced feminization is not one of my fantasies, although I have enjoyed some of the stories I've read in the CD literature. What I do like is its second cousin (first cousin)? Pampering! Love makeovers, love facials, love mani/pedis. Also, had a session with a personal shopper recently, which was a blast, and also feels like a distant relative to forced feminization. For me this has nothing to do with being controlled or submissive, just like the occasional treat of doing something special for myself. Hugs, Michelle

[Katie01]

I read somewhere that some high powered executives liked being dominated because relinquishing power also relinquished responsibility, which led to a kind of freedom. I wonder if that has something to do with it?

At the end of the day I feel that most, if not all fantasies are by in large a good thing. It's never a bad thing to engage our imagination and creativity. Many artists spend their whole lives trying to get to that child like place.

[Ninna]

Well I guess is justa a straight CD fantasie, I love wear womans clothes an get dolled up, and I dont need nobody force me, but thats the part of the fantasie, that I act like a don't like get dressed, and a dominated GG "forced" me. thank you ladies for answer, advice and share experience!!!

[natalie_cheryl]

I have that same fantasy, that was what I used to pretend was happening when I was a kid and dressing up

[Lorileah]

nothing to be sorry for Ninna...the warning was for others who follow not to get graphic :)

Like I said this is a common fantasy, I think more to allow permission. However, you have to be careful following it up (wavy music as the picture dissolves and goes back in time). I have had two men want me to follow that fantasy. It may sound fun but in reality it would be dangerous and frightening. As they say, it's all fun and games until someone loses and eye

[Lori Kurtz]

No forced feminization fantasies for me ... not even close. I like the idea of willing and enthusiastic participation in sexual activities, whether I'm in male or female mode. A much more appealing fantasy for me, rather than forced feminization, is to be involved with a woman who would find my female sexuality incredibly exciting, and she and I would take it from there, with the extra pleasures of my male equipment.

[Confucius]

Forced feminization? Nope, but I did have a close call.

In my first job I worked in a small branch office where I was the only male. Even my boss was a female. I had a couple women working in same room as myself. One was a young girl, about my age, who never wore a skirt or dress. The other woman was trying to convince her to dress more professionally, try wearing a dress. She responded by saying, "I'll wear a dress when Confucius wears one." This comment brought laughter, and we said that if Confucius wore one then no one would notice her. We also laughed about how our boss would respond. "She'd fire me for causing a scene and disrupting work," I said. Just then our boss was in the doorway, and she heard us. "I wouldn't fire you. I think it's a good idea. It would help boost morale in this this office."

The word got around the office immediately. And within a couple days that young woman who never wore a dress, wore a dress to work. All eyes were on me to see if I would cross-dress at work. Several women in the office asked if I needed help. My response was that I never agreed to this challenge. It was forced on me. Of course at the same time I was trying to figure out how I could still pull off this crossdressing challenge. Well, within a week the whole thing died down, and everyone seemed to forget about the challenge. I always regretted that I didn't accept the challenge and the offers of help.

[Samantha Clark]

Oh my, plez don' fling me in dat briar patch, brer fox!

[Teresa]

Confucius,
It was served on a silver platter to you how could have let that one go ? Being one of the girls in the office was a dream come true !

[Sarasometimes]

As a young trying to figure it out future CD I had that type of fantasy/hope. My high school had a beauty school classroom and I so wanted to, somehow be "forced" to be a model for a head to toe makeover and of course have this done while wearing one of the nurse type white uniform dresses all the beauty school girls had to wear!
Now as Michelleddg mentioned i find getting pampered to have a touch of this in it. When I make an appointment say for a full highlight and blow out. Once the day arrives I'm "forced" to go and "endure" the 2 plus hours at the salon. My hairdresser determines what method she will use, highlights with foil and under the dryer or balayage and a head covered in layers of plastic wrap and sitting there savoring the smell of scented hair lightener (bleach).
Many other salon treatments can be viewed this way, like pedicures and certainly a full makeup application.
I think we are all staying very PG.

[TrishaLake]

I think we all have had this one, and of course I have as well. The fantasy part is great and you can play it out in your mind even when you are with your SO, after all it is just fantasy anyway...because we are willing participants. I like the idea for sure...LOL

[Candice June Lee]

This was one aspect that i attempted to help get my wife acustomed to my CD needs. She didnt really like the idea but we are managing.

[Stephanie47]

I have a slightly different slant on a "forced" feminization fantasy. My fantasy is coming home after my wife's last day at work for the summer, and, finding she has striped the closet of all my male clothes, hung all my dresses in the closet, bras and panties in the dresser, and, said, so you want to pretend to be a woman. You can have your boy clothes back at the end of the summer.

[MelanieAnne]

Been there, done that. Sometimes I tell myself, "Quit stalling and get in that shower. We're going to shave off all your hair, everywhere"!
When I'm done, I tell myself, There goes your manhood down the drain, Hon. Now let's get you moisturized, powdered, and into a skimpy dress and some high heels". "Oh no, please"! "Hurry up, you're stalling". :heehee:

[Jenniferathome]

...@ Jennifer, I love to wear women's clothes, but would have to be forced to do the sissy thing. Little girl stuff kind of creeps me out. I hope not to offend anyone here that's into it, but not my cup of tea. So a CD could be forced, but that would be a nightmare not a fantasy.

Meghan, I agree with you. Fundamentally, if someone is forced to do ANYTHING against their will, it is not fun. That's why I think this fantasy is more about control or humiliation, than cross dressing. I don't get it, that's for certain.

[Robin414]

I'm not a phsycologist (but I play one on TV ☺) and I totally get this Ninna, I've read stories of guys being forced to dress up as girls in early childhood by their older sister and her friends (who the 'victim' happens to be very attracted to (her FRIENDS people 😨!) but being pre-puberty not in a 'full on kinda way', more emotional for lack of a better word). I'm sure there's a technical term for it but it's not on my teleprompter but I do totally get it for sure! 😃

[notready4public]

I have had many fantasies about varying things, forced feminization has never been one of them. I started CDing by wearing my sisters pantyhose at around 3 or 4. But when my sisters tried to force me to wear a dress and makeup one day I was not having it. I fought them (and hard) to keep it from happening. The thought of someone telling me to put on things I like to wear never had any appeal to me, with the exception of when my SO asks me to wear stockings or lingerie. In fact, she recently took out some stockings and a little lace teddy and threw them on me as I lay in bed. When she TOLD me to put them on I wasn't at all aroused by the idea. I told her I wasn't into it that night and she left it alone. For me, a bigger fantasy is about being forcibly undressed by my SO, or her surrogate/assistant. We have not progressed to actually utilizing surrogates or assistants but I do fantasize about such.

[Sometimes Steffi]

I think the FF fantasy is made up by CDers themselves. It's just a different form of the "I lost a bet" or "I'm buying it for my wife" excuse.

It allows a CD to fantasize about being dressed as a girl, without having to come to terms with how much he likes it, because he was forced to do it. But, I'll bet all the FF fantasies revolve around being forced to do it by a GG, but not by a GM. A cd being forced by a GM would probably resist at all costs, but being forced by a GG, the CD would fake resist, because he really wanted to do it.

[lingerieLiz]

I've never been forced but was given my sister's panties when I was out of underwear.

Sometimes we become part of our own forced feminization. When I was just out of high school and out of my parents place in the 50s a male friend talked me (easily) into being his imaginary date for a drive-in car show. I went full boat and we both had fun with our secret. I soon realized he was gay and he realized I liked playing the girl. We started to make it a regular thing. While it wasn't forced it became the norm. It was accepted by everyone that I was his girl friend and should go everywhere with him. It curtailed my dating girls and other things that I liked to do. Neither of us were sexually attracted to the other and eventually realized that we needed to go our own way.

[Kristine120]

I actually found an article about Jerri Lee, the transgendered woman that created and owns Centurion Publishing:

https://www.newsreview.com/reno/clothes-make-the-wo-man/content?oid=1295662

[CarlaWestin]

Forced fem fantasy is just another facet of this fabulous gem of gender expression and adventure. I find it very exciting to have an outfit that includes a bit of naughty danger or a hint of submissive behavior. Is that coloring outside the lines? Gosh, I sure hope so.



I don't get it, that's for certain.

Yep

[Meghan4now]

I thought about this a little more. The key word here is fantasy. If it is just a role playing game, understood by both parties, with rules and bounds, it would be fun for the participants. Like the wife playing stripper, or playing cop or postman. The forced portion is border BDSM, which could also be exciting. I will not throw rocks at anyone playing games within their own bedroom. After all, CDING for many people is an elaborate RPG. (Disclaimer : not discounting anyone that CDS for other more TG/TS reasons)

Where some people have an issue, is where that separation of reality and game occur. But if your SO came to you and wanted to play that game, would you indulge them? Could be fun, knowing they were getting something out of it.

[Krisi]

I agree with Jennifer, you can't "force" a crossdresser to dress. I understand Persephone's point that once you are known to people as a female, you're pretty much forced to continue that presentation. Of course, in that situation it is you who is doing the forcing.

"Forced feminization" is the basis for lots of fantasy stories. I doubt it ever happens in real life, at least the way these stories play out.

[Sarasometimes]

To those who "don't get it", that is true with most fantasies that aren't your thing. No bashing about this but I feel guilty when I crossdress so this fantasy (not reality) if possible would help eliminate the feelings of guilt because I can't stop it.
Fun thread!

[AllieSF]

I agree with Jennifer, you can't "force" a crossdresser to dress. I understand Persephone's point that once you are known to people as a female, you're pretty much forced to continue that presentation. Of course, in that situation it is you who is doing the forcing.

"Forced feminization" is the basis for lots of fantasy stories. I doubt it ever happens in real life, at least the way these stories play out.

I basically agree with this point, unless one is "forced" to dress at a time and place that is way out of their comfort zone, and then maybe have to go out when one is not the leaving the closet type. Also, when taking the fantasy aspect into account, one may just like to take the passive role in that moment and let someone else or others take over and do the total transformation. If one throws in some sexual play, it then takes on another distinct side of it all. So, from a BDSM point of view, there may be a firm definition of what that means. However, when thrown out the general public it can easily take on other meanings.

[JenniferR771]

OH YES! Forced crossdressing was one of my earliest fantasies. Still a favorite. Its a sort of a fetish for me. It is a very common theme in crossdressing short story literature. There is an amazing and creative range of ideas and reasons of why a man must be forced to crossdress.

I read an article years ago about one of the earliest stories about crossdressing--about 1843. It involved a boy whose sister had died. His mother was distraught until she convinced the boy to dress in his sister's clothes for a few minutes. That escalated to a few hours and a few days...and on and on. Original in French, published in Paris.

[Sissy_in_pink]

I often wish that I was the youngest child in a family of girls and that my mum would dress me in my sisters hand me downs from day one. Then when it came time for me to go to school and mum took me to the shops to get me a uniform to wear, I would refuse to try anything male on and insist on wearing my sisters school uniform and go to school as a girl.

[Elli87]

Yup I had that allot, though these days I kinda feel like being a woman or like a woman isn't or doesn't have to be an entirely submissive thing. Sometimes I see myself in a devastating pantsuit with low heals and a little cleavage showing from my blouse. Like a high powers business woman,

[Jane P]

Perhaps it is more forced self-realization that we desire. Eg. A woman who knows or suspects you are a crossdresser pressures , convinces , assists in a feminine transformation . Stands you in front of a mirror and makes you look at yourself and asks , " What do you see? " reply , " A crossdresser ." Her reply , " Exactly ; now get over yourself and get on with life. " Of course the rest of the story reads like a romance novel .

[chinabrown]

Most GG's do not know hot to feminize a man with makeup or hormones.you have to find people who are trained to do it like Porsche lynn or someone experienced in the SMBD world and there gonna want $$$$$. Hollywood,San Francisco and new York is famous for having those places.it mostl for the rich or wealthy.

Tara was someone was trained in Hollywood by porsche Lynn and there are many more.
Tara is famous like Porsche Lynn and look like a super model.

There is also Rosa in nevada