Self defense.

[Tracii G]

Today it got ugly and my bad side took over.
Normally I'm really easy going and don't let people get to me.
I was in 50/50 mode like always and not really dressed overly femme maybe just call it rock star ish so there is some latitude there.
Picked up a few things at the gas/quicky mart type store on the way home about 5:30pm.
There were 2 bubba type guys in their 20's behind me in line and there were comments made about my long hair and earrings.
I let it go paid for my stuff and walked out. Well one of the guys walked out behind me leaving his buddy still in line inside.
The guy that followed me out put his hand on my shoulder and stated squeezing my collar bone.
Here is where my bad side(good in this case) came out.
I was able to grab his wrist and force him to loosen his grip by twisting his wrist,bending it down and putting him on the ground just as his buddy walked out the door.
I must have broken his wrist because he was crying like a baby his buddy just stood there not knowing what to do.
I let go and told him you don't go( f word ing) with people you don't know.
The manager saw the whole thing on camera and came running out with a side arm.
The two guys ran off and the police nabbed them at the other end of the parking lot.
The cop asked for my statement I gave it and he said have a nice day bro' ya did good because that guy is balling like a baby in the back of my cruiser.
The guy had priors in Colorado so he is off to jail there.

[jaleecd]

His hands were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Sorry that this happened to you. this could have been done to a fem person who didn't fit the criteria of a G.G., and someone could of really been hurt. Good stop.

[Tracii G]

It pays off to have the training to handle things like this.
If I had been like I used to be I would have gone farther than I did.
I used to be a nasty guy and I credit CDing and accepting my femme side for keeping him in check.

[donnalee]

You did good, kid!

[toering63]

Glad you are ok. Some people are just plain stupid and shouldn't be allowed in public without proper supervision.

[Tracii G]

The main point is always be prepared or at least know how to get scrappy if you have to.
If you don't know self defense tactics maybe you should look into learning.
If you are a good sized guy maybe you can handle yourself just fine.
I'm short so pretty used to being picked on from an early age.
I guess I was femme looking enough to this guy so maybe that did have something to do with his actions.

[LaSirenaBella]

Good work. Good if you broke his wrist. He had it coming.

[BLUE ORCHID]

Hi Tracii, It's like they used to say on the A-TEAM, I just love it when a plan comes together.:hugs:

[Candee]

Way to go Tracii! You go girl!

[notready4public]

I don't usually condone violence in a situation that has not been given a chance to be diffused by other means. But, as soon as he put his hand on you uninvited he crossed the line into attempted assault, possibly even able to drop the attempted part. Any time someone puts a hand on you uninvited they are asking you to show them how badly you can injure them!

[Genny B]

Next time I go out I want you with me Tracii! I have no idea how to do that but I am glad you know! Maybe you can post some self defense video's!

Genny B

[kimdl93]

It's a small and select group of idiots who commit most crimes. This one picked on the wrong person. I gotta say, though I'm a substantial person, I doubt I could have handled the situation anywhere nearly as effectively.

[Robin414]

Holy crap Tracii! WAY TO GO, I have dreams about this, no, seriously!!! (plus, I carry a brick in my purse 😐)

[TrishaLake]

Great job Traci and sexy too....confidence and independence .....good for you

[Ceera]

Good for you! And I'd say you handled that extremely well! Enough force to stop the situation, and not any more, really, than needed. (Well, maybe a bit more if you did break his wrist, but what I mean is that you did one action to stop the assault, and didn't follow up unnecessarily.)

Well done, sister! My martial arts instructors would have been proud of you! I certainly am!

[Erica Marie]

Way to go sister. You took care of yourself and you did it in a civilized manner. No different than any male or female who knows self defense. You held your ground and protected yourself.
It was nice to know that the shop keeper had your back as soon as he knew the situation and that the authorities also protected your rights. Good will always prevail over bad!!!

[Gillian Gigs]

Good on you. I know the move you made on him, if his wrist is broken, he has no one to blame but himself. Self defence training pays off, you were only responding to his assault.

[KittyD]

Sounds like you got him with a ju-jitsu wrist lock or hold :)
Very painful and gains full control of the person in question... Well played Tracii :D

[joanna4]

Very nice Tracii! I am so happy to hear that you did the right thing and being so courageous. Serves them right.

[NicoleScott]

The irony. He thought you were limp-wristed, but now he is. haha

[psion128]

Major props to you! You did awesome. I live in a big city. Getting some self defense training has been on my bucket list for a long time. I really need to just be prepared if something like that happens to me. You never know.

[Donnagirl]

Well played sister.... Although breaking his elbow by forcing it the wrong way is a permenant reminder of the error of his ways... Hopefully he's a little more respectful next time...

[Sarah Beth]

It sounds like you handled that really well. I had something similar happen to me last summer, the first and only time I have ever been out anywhere in public in a dress. Although there was no physical confrontation I did end up having to talk to the police about what happened.

[mykell]

glad things worked out for the best traci, i have to admit to being good sized and always felt it was a detriment for me as far as blending.... in that situation i feel that it would still be that way with no formal training and theyre presumption that being the same size it would be fair for them to hassle me....too many surgeries make me fragile so i may pursue a self defense class.....

thanks for posting....glad it worked out well and that your "bad side" is just rough enough....sometimes you just cant be "lady like"
maybe he will find out about that at the "grey bar hotel"

[Fi-Fi LeFemme]

One interesting thing to note here is how professionally the police handled the situation.
I don't live in the US but there certainly seems to be areas where the law enforcement takes a dim view of anyone who isn't like them.

[Meghan4now]

Good job, glad your instincts kicked in. You must have practiced that technique a lot at a younger age. Like riding a bike. I know a few variants of the technique. You described it pretty well.

[Krisi]

It's great that things turned out the way they did but it's also a reminder to the folks who talk about going out in public and nobody noticed. People do notice and while most ignore it, some can't resist the temptation to throw their weight around.

[paulaprimo]

good for you tracii, way to represent...

he's probably telling his "cellies" how some big huge football type guy attacked him
as his buddy smurks in the corner...

[Tracii G]

I studied Shao Lin karate as a kid thru my mid 20's and still do Tai Chi to keep flexible.
IIRC the defensive technique is called kukki and if you google wrist take down technique move you may find info. It may be on you tube as well so you can see how it works.
It is amazing how the brain remembers what to do in situations like this.
I'm just glad his grip wasn't too tight and not ready for a fight.

[Alice Torn]

Sorry it had to come to that, but he learned a lesson, i hope. You were picked on for being small. I was picked on for being so tall . I think a smaller person has some advantage in a fight, because he or she is a smaller target, whereas a big or tall person is a large target. I plan on going out today, and am cautious about those nearby. Oh, I remember an incident at work, many many years ago. One old guy who was pretty rough, got mad, and tried to kick me hard, and my instinct said, to grab his foot. He fell and broke his wrist, too. We were not enemies. I just grabbed his hat, and he came at me.

[Tracii G]

Alice its prudent to always be cautious.
99% of people won't do anything as we all know its just the 1% you need to watch out for.
Stay safe Alice and enjoy being you.

[paulaprimo]

It is amazing how the brain remembers what to do in situations like this.

I had a similar experience about 3 years ago. it was my 2nd time out in public. a guy was giving me a hard time in a bar,
I went outside to get away, he came out and walked towards me, thinking he was going to apologize or bump a smoke
he punched me in the head (his mistake, can't hurt this head) I use to box in the 70's, so without thinking and with painted nails hit him once,
his face exploded and he dropped, I thought I killed him. I was scared to death. he came to as he was being put in an ambulance, screaming to press charges,
the cops took my info, and im thinking court and the newspaper omg, thank GOD for witness's. the cop was professional and said to me
as far as he was concerned, justice was served. I never heard anything more, and have gone back to that place many times.

it was a gay friendly bar so I never thought I would have a problem there. I am much more "aware" when I go out now.

[Stephanie_83]

The irony. He thought you were limp-wristed, but now he is. haha

Omg, this is perfect 😂 You did great - so glad you were able to handle yourself!

[Tracii G]

Paula instinct just kicks in at the right time it seems like.

[Allisa]

Just goes to show what is out there, sometimes we forget and get complacent. I to have had training in self defense and being of a smaller stature it has helped in many situations during my life so far and I agree that maybe my femme side does control how far I will go when I have to get nasty and limit the ugly dark me. Good reaction time and controlled aggression. Elated all worked out for you and no harm was done(to you that is).

[Kate Simmons]

Hopefully Bubba learned not to judge people by their appearance. I've had similar run-ins myself in the past showing them where it was. :)

[Carmen]

Traci you handled that situation well.
I'm wondering just why he put his hand on you to begin with!?

[reb.femme]

Well done Tracii,

I love a happy ending with the heroine triumphing. Your actions remind me of an old cartoon character. Who is Hong Kong Fuey? Could it be the telephone operator, the janitor (not in this case) or even the person in front of you? Could be! :devil:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va_Rmpd3PZI

Many happy chopping days Miss.

Rebecca

[phylis anne]

Atta Girl give it to em but try to stay safe and if it comes to getting ugly you choose the battle field not them meanwhile I bet he was popular at the jail

[Ann WA]

Love your story.

[LeslieSD]

You did great. Some guys deserve to have a lesson taught to them in the hard way. Thank you, sister!

[Jorja]

Way to go tracii!!!! I had an incident a few years ago where some jackass came up to the table where my friends and I were sitting, pulled out a 9" hunting knife and said he was going to gut all of us fags. Without moving out of my chair, I disarmed him and used the same wrist takedown move and held him there until the police arrived. And they said I never paid attention in self defense training.

[Paula Siemen]

I took some tai qwon do many years ago and learned so defensive moves....I doubt I could remember them if I need to use them. You go girl

[STACY B]

Dam Dummies will never learn,,lol,, It don't Surprise me, Hell you spent most of your life in Dangerous Truck stops and driving all over God knows where at all hours of the Day and Night in strange places. Hell no Dam wonder you handle yourself so well. Those weak fools that never did a hard days work in there lives will never learn it is a Disorder we have not a Handicap. I told my SO just think of how many Women said to themselves at one time or another( I wish I was a Big Tough Man so I could whip such and such's But) Well that's me,, A BIG MAN with a Girl brain 24/7 ,, Hard to refrain from doing things to people most times, But we live an learn,, This time lesson were in order. Girl Power,,,,

[Dana44]

Nice going Tracii, Yes even as a male has to protect themselves, we girls need to be ready at any time. I'm tall yet very thin and have always been that way. In Karate, I had to fight to the finish in a tournament with four broken ribs from a kick. I went through the next five fights and took first place. I'm scrappy and when my bad eye goes out. I can protect myself even if I'm in heels. I do yoga and get-fit to keep in shape. There are predators out there. Some people walk though life with ever seeing one though. But, an incident can strike at any time.

[Robin414]

Just looked up that wrist move, wow, marine grade, non lethal, close quarters combat technique, LOVE it 😃

[Maxi]

Nice job of putting him in his place.
I like to think of myself as a Trogan Horse. I'm still the redneck who can kick your a@*!. I just look like a woman.

[Robin414]

Nice job of putting him in his place.
I like to think of myself as a Trogan Horse. I'm still the redneck who can kick your a@*!. I just look like a woman.

I hear yah Maxi! I've been in more than one bar fight in my day!

[Tracii G]

Robin that move induces a lot of pain and the person can't really move to any degree without breaking their arm so they usually stay still.

I would have been nice to have Stacy B there for back up.LOL

[BLUE ORCHID]

Hi Tracii, You just can't fix STUPID !:daydreaming:

But you sure did slow it down a lot.:hugs:

[Claire Cook]

Hi Tracii, Indeed you did great. Your post is a warning to all of us -- if we are going to present as women (or be accosted by yahoos), we have to be prepared to face what women face. Thanks, I at least am thinking about self-defense training. And yes, I have to admire how the cops handled it too,

[Talyla]

Well done! Tracii. Glad everything worked out for the best. Thanks for the reminder to always be aware, and when that fails. To be ready to fight when necessary.

[Tracii G]

Keep your eyes open and watch the people around you is the best thing you can do.
Hearing the guys behind me making comments was my first tip to be on my guard,then the guy coming out behind me was the second.
I'm sure he figured me for an easy mark so he followed me out of the store.

[STACY B]

You know it Kid,, I love to Dance,, Drinking and Dancing,, Woot,,, Woot,, Maybe even pulled there Britches down and give those Snot nosed punks a Proper spanking Old School Style,,lol,,, Sometimes you gotta teach folks how to treat a Lady !!!

[Tracii G]

Didn't want all this to happen but if the boy wants to "dance" I can do that.
Pretty sure he got surprised and hopefully learned a lesson.
I can't wait to run into his buddy again if he is still a free man.

[Robin414]

Robin that move induces a lot of pain and the person can't really move to any degree without breaking their arm so they usually stay still.

I would have been nice to have Stacy B there for back up.LOL

I know, I saw a few you tube videos with Marines practicing, talk about a simple but highly effective close quarters combat maneuver! As for backup, how about M. Moose!?

[ShriekCassandra]

This really put a smile on my lips. The merciless side of me kinda makes me wish you'd broken a lot more than just his wrist, but I know realistically you did enough of what was needed to quickly get you out of a hostile situation that could've turned for the worse on your end if you hadn't reacted back as fast as you did.

[Loni]

great news you are safe and sound.

good if you did snap his wrist, crooks/bad guys deserve no mercy.

sad this happoned, but at least you know how to take care, every now and again a fool trys to take advantage of what they belive is a weaker person, then they find out they are the weaker one.


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[Stephanie47]

As Traci has stated it is best, whether en femme or drab, to be aware of your surroundings and people. So many make the assumption nothing is ever going to happen to themselves. It's always the other person. There are enough creeps out there to harass anyone and everyone, who does not look like themselves. In most states what Traci experienced was fourth degree assault, which can elicit a stronger response than just injuring this guy's paw.

[Suzanne F]

Ladies
That is what happens when you mess with a girl from Ky! Traci I know what courage it takes to be you where you live. I face it when I visit but not on an every day basis. I am so inspired by your audacity. It makes my life easier to face.
Suzanne

[CONSUELO]

Glad you are safe!

[Tracii G]

Ky people in my area are very accepting in general and we do have a fairness clause that offers some legal protection.
My town has a large trans community and going anywhere here is pretty safe.

[Suzanne F]

Traci
I agree that there are many accepting people in Ky. I know many trans people in Louisville. However, I know I feel a difference in acceptance levels while going about my daily life here in SF Bay Area as compared to when I am in my hometown of Owensboro. I believe you live in the Lexington area which I know has a progressive outlook as a city. But I also know on the fringes of Lexington there are some pockets of racism and trans phobia. I was not trying to lump all Kentuckians together.
Suzanne

[Tracii G]

Lexington is a very open place and lots of trans people out and about.
Louisville has the same fairness clause and my trans friends there seem to be doing fine.
I have been in 99% of the towns close to Lexington enfemme and never any issues.
The band I roadie for plays in Louisville a lot and I have seen quite a few MtF TG's in the rock and roll type clubs and nobody bothers them.
Its become so common its sort of a non issue.

[kryss.cd]

I'm so glad you're safe! It's a great thing you were able to defend yourself and I hope that others out there are stay as vigilant and prepared as you were. It's important for everyone to be able to defend themselves from bad situations.

[mechamoose]

I know, I saw a few you tube videos with Marines practicing, talk about a simple but highly effective close quarters combat maneuver! As for backup, how about M. Moose!?

Thank you :)

Yes, I know close quarters stuff from my Kung Fu training.

What? Are we forming "The Trans Panthers"?

}:>

- MM

[Suzanne F]

Traci
You did start this thread by telling how you were assaulted. Before you were assaulted they made comments about your feminine appearance. This was at 5:30 in the day time. I would say there is some trans phobia left in our state.
Suzanne

[KayMcLaughlin]

Really well done. :)

I've been out and in a few places where I was extra cautious... It's an eye opening experience for me, really. As a man, I had two decades of martial arts training, including some time teaching combatives to the infantry back when I was in the Army. I really was never nervous about being anywhere, no matter what time of night. Alert sometimes, but not nervous. And I never truly understood why a lot of women would get nervous about being out on the city streets at night - until I was there as one, and really "get it" now.

Staying alert is important. Looking confident helps. And some self defense training is a great idea.

[Tracii G]

Suzanne I guess long hair and ear rings was this guys tipping point or me not wearing baggy boys jeans or a flannel shirt.LOL
Some people just have problems with people that are different than they are.
Its not the first time so I always scan my surroundings.

[JamieQ]

I been out with Tracii in Lexington a number of times totally enfemme as I could be at the time and felt extremely safe. I think Lexington and KY in general is quite accepting of us but we always need to be on guard for the unexpected. I was recently out and about with a Marine veteran and they commented how good it was as I looked around and was very aware of the surroundings. I do notice that most people go about their way and barely notice anything...

[Candice June Lee]

Sounds like you handled yourself pretty well. Sadly there is always someone who thinks their freedom is better than yours. All because you don't fit his social norm. Aikido works pretty good. It is a softer art and doesn't require punches and kicks. It will sure take a person by surprise.

[Tracii G]

Good to see you posting JamieQ I hope you have been doing well.
Our times out have always been fun and educational too.

[Sarasometimes]

Nice work "Too Girly" I don't think so. With him having priors I think he had plans beyond squeezing your collar bone. He got what he deserved. I wonder what lame story he will come up with when asked how his wrist got hurt?
I'd like to see how the others in the slammer would react if he tells the truth. "Well you see I got my wrist broken by a guy wearing cute earrings, lip gloss and capri pants." "I was just going to ask him where he got the earrings and Wam! The next thing i know my wrist is broken. His bracelet scratched me too! Just not fair!"
Way to represent and defend yourself and our freedom! Glad to hear that CDing has mellowed you, you did good to stop then.
Would not have worked out so well for me, I can't fight worth a damn.

[mechamoose]

Just so it is said, you don't need self defense training to defend yourself. Be Confident in your carriage. Don't look like a victim. Don't go into dangerous places (dark, unknown). Don't be alone. Get a permit to carry mace. Carry an air horn.

If you feel you must, then lots of places offer 'self defense for women' which teach some basics which can help to give you enough time to avoid or escape an attack. Even for a trained martial artist, the first goal is to avoid the fight in the first place. The second is 'create an opening to escape'. Only when those don't work do you reach into the 'bag of tricks' to physically defend yourself.

<3

- MM

[Saikotsu]

Glad you're alright. Incidents like these are part of the reason I don't go out en femme. Even though I've had quite a lot of self defense training, I'd rather not have to use it.

[Tracii G]

No sense in being scared to go out enfemme.
Dressing at home just gets boring to me.
Its a big old world out there and I want to enjoy it.

[Saikotsu]

I wouldn't say there's no sense in being scared. After all, there is a very real possibility of violence. At the same time, being cooped up in my place can make it feel like a prison. And yes, some days it is worth the danger and fear to be myself out in public. It's not like I haven't gone out, after all I was walking around a convention recently presenting as mixed. But the fear does factor into how often I do it