Horrible experience the other day

[Lovetocd]

Hello, I am new to this group and will hopefully learn a lot of things. What I like is to cross dress for females. I am married and my wife would never understand, so I have to find ways to satisfy my desire. So, for my horrible experience, I'm dying to tell someone!
Well, a few weeks ago, I went into a female clothing store and this woman helped me pick out a few outfits and said to try them on. I made sure they were very sexy and somewhat revealing. I opened the door and asked her if it's ok to come out and get her opinion. She said yes it is. She liked the outfit and said it looked great. The next outfit was a bit revealing and you can see the outline of my penis. She said it looked very sexy and pointed out that my penis is visible. She even smiled and said it looked nice. I tried on a couple more outfits and decided to buy two of them. She was very nice and appreciated my business. Now, two weeks passed and I went back there. She was there again with another woman. I picked out a few outfits and they sent me to the fitting room. The first one was simple and they said it looked nice. The next one was really tight and sheer. I wasn't wearing panties and you can see my penis through the sheerness. I opened the door and said this one is very sexy and sheer. They said come out let's see it. They both said it was very sexy but looked nice. I went back in and changed to the next outfit. When I came out, no one was there! I called out and no one answered! I went back in and changed to my normal clothes. When I came back out, I tried to leave but the key lock was locked and I couldn't get out. There was a huge crowd outside pointing at me through the window! I tried the back door but it was locked. Eventually, police came and opened the door from outside with the two women. They called the cops because they claimed I exposed myself! I told the cops I was dressing as a female for Halloween because I was gay and these women over reacted because the outfits were very sexy. I told them, not once did I touch myself and show them anything. I also closed the door every time I changed my clothes. The women admitted that I did not truly expose myself but they can see my penis through my clothes and the cops let me go. I feel so bad about this and I can't stop thinking about almost being arrested! Has anyone else gone through this???

[jenniferinsf]

well what can i say. you seem to have been intentionally selecting outfits that feature your genitals. plus the fact that you would leave the cubicle in search of an opinion when dressed seems at best provocative.

you were damn lucky you were not taken away and i think you did our group a disservice by your actions....it just reinforces society's negative views of us.

sorry, just how i feel

[Sara Jessica]

Ummm, but you DID EXPOSE YOURSELF.

You even admitted this fact to open up your little tale.

You probably should have been arrested for exposing yourself.

The tale reeks of getting one's jollies through the involvement of others who are unwilling participants.

Your behavior will most certainly make it more difficult for the next transgender person to walk into that business. Perceptions are already burned into the SA's minds. They cannot unsee what they have already seen.

Your behavior also will affect these people's perception of our community at large in terms of thinking we are all cut from the same cloth.

By the way, you told the police officer you are gay, you might wish to tell your wife. Speaking of whom, perhaps you should share your story with her. Maybe she can offer some help to keep you from spreading your fantasies all over town.

[Megan Thomas]

Can't help thinking a bit of commonsense should have prevailed here. It didn't and I echo the others in that your behaviour was lacking to say the least!

[falcongts]

Well first you need to tuck So when you get dressed there is nothing sticking out that is not welcome to others that might take offence to it Just Saying
I Am Glad to see you get excited about dressing up I Am the same way
From My View point it I Am sorry you went through something so Bad that said for them every time you dress you get excited down there as well as come out and say how do I look ? I Can tell you get excited but from there point of view they may have been terrified thinking sex offender there is a lot of crazy people out there
A fellow co worker where I had worked at before was doing service work in a house and the home owner came into the kitchen Nude asked my co worker to check his plumming this is what my co worker said
My Opinion if you do not tuck and are excited Do not show anyone For Me I would be embarrassed to do that
If you control (tuck) You will not have this problem again just my 2 cents I know there will be hard feelings with the store they want there shoppers as well as them selves to be safe
you could go back and talk to them if you tuck there will be no problem As well As I Am sure they will help you with clothes
or find another store and tuck

[Bobbi46]

Lovetocd, I am not surprised at all! you should have worn panties, its my opinion you went in there intentionally to show as much of you as you possibly could. Talk about bringing the side down. What you did was nothing short of exhibitionistic and does not in any way help to endear people towards what we want to do in as quietly and calmly as possible.

[donnalee]

At best this sounds like a failure to communicate, at worst entrapment.

[Sarasometimes]

The cops made a huge mistake by not locking you up!! I have been a member here for many years and I can't remember a post with the word penis written as many times as you did, even in the tucking thread! I believe your reason for going there was show the outline and see the reaction which should have gotten you arrested, IMHO. Your behavior is not that of a CD/TS who has respect for themselves or others! Trying on clothes without underwear is gross, offensive and disgusting! I pity the unfortunate next customer who unknowingly tries them on or worse buys one of them.
I feel disgraced to be associated with this kind of behavior. Hopefully this brush with jail time will open your eyes and put a stop to any future actions remotely similar! I think your thread comes awfully close to a violation of the forum rules. Kudos to the SA's who tried to get you locked up.

[Amanda_Nicole]

While I am sorry that this happened. You must understand that if you truly want to dress up it is important that you tuck and wear undies. I don't think that anyone would want to see (even the outline) of your private part. Glad you were not arrested. Lesson learned, I hope!!!!

[heatherdress]

I agree with previous posts. I am sorry you had a bad experience but you really did go well beyond typical help expectations from a salesperson who seemed to be genuinely helping you. If I were her, I probably would have asked you to leave or would have called the police, especially since there was another woman in the shop who might also have been scared and offended. You are lucky the police did not make the experience much more difficult. Indecent exposure laws vary by state. You could be charged with indecent exposure, even wearing clothing, depending upon specific circumstances. You also added that you did not touch yourself which implies you knew what your were going to do and wanted to prevent indecent exposure and obscene behavior charges.

Although your actions were probably not illegal, and probably because you set these women up by asking their permission before you displayed yourself to them, your behavior was probably creepy, insensitive, offensive, manipulative and selfish. It is insulting to justify this behavior by saying that you have crossdressing desires.

You also used a lie that you were gay - that it should be expected that gay men dress in revealing women's outfits for Halloween and gay men should be allowed to display their penises, as you did, repeatedly. Seems like you had prepared that excuse in advance. Do you really think it is OK to pass off creepy behavior and blame sexual orientation? Your excuse was also offensive and thoughtless.

I hope this was a unique experience, but the casualness of your described event behavior and the excited manner which you are "dying to tell someone" about wearing very sexy women's clothing, being very aroused and asking women what they thought, and your "almost got caught" experience, implies that you enjoyed the thrill and maybe have done this before. You desires go well beyond simply crossdressing. You seem to have a desire to expose yourself to unknown women knowing that your penis is visible and fully aroused. If that is OK for you, you might want to see a therapist before you experience serious trouble and before your offend or hurt other people.

I suggest the next person you ask for an opinion of how you look, if your penis is exposed through revealing clothing should be your wife or your therapist.

[Kaitlyn Michele]

sorry you got what you should've got... nobody wants to see your penis

you give tg people a bad name, and like Sara says you make it hard for people that don't play the games you play....you are why we read about ts and tg people getting kicked out of public places

[~Joanne~]

The tale reeks of getting one's jollies through the involvement of others who are unwilling participants.


I agree and since this is this persons first post here, it sounds like they want to keep that fantasy going.....

[Jenniferathome]

I think there is far more about which you are not informing us. Clearly, you WERE showing your junk to women in the store. I think there is ZERO chance that the women said you looked "nice" AND called the police.

So what really happened

[Tracii G]

How many gay men do you think go around women showing their penis? None.
Bad excuse and a lie no one would believe anyway much less the police.
What you did was soo creepy/perverted I would have locked the doors and called the police too.
No panties? Really? That is just gross and shows what your intentions were.
This site isn't geared toward that but maybe you weren't aware because there are a lot of nasty CD sites out there that border on fantasy and porn.
What you did to those ladies was down right disgusting.
You are very lucky you didn't go to jail and possibly ruin your marriage in the process.

[Tina_gm]

I should have known better to keep reading the op, as my eyes are now bleeding

[Jenniferathome]

.... did he really do anything more than what some of us have done by going to a store to shop hoping to try on clothes. ...

Leigh, did you miss the part where he stated his penis was showing? This is not typical "try on a dress" activity. It's, "Hey, look at my junk," activity.

[Sallee]

why weren't you wearing any panties Thats just common sense I am surprised they even let you try something on without panties. BUt what they did was wrong to they should have asked if you were wearing underwear or said something when it was realized that you were not. Not good for any one certainly not the cd community

[Rachael Leigh]

Leigh, did you miss the part where he stated his penis was showing? This is not typical "try on a dress" activity. It's, "Hey, look at my junk," activity.

I did yes Jenn but I took it to mean under the dress I didn't think it was meant literally showing maybe I'm wrong.
I do agree exposing oneself is totally wrong though

[Janet Bern]

That kind of action gives us all a bad name .. If you are buying womens clothes and they are nice enough to
treat you like a lady, please don't use the privilege as a reason to expose yourself. Be considerate of the rest of us.

[Erica Marie]

I will pretty much mirror what everyone else said. It was a pure fetish move. Going in without panties, basically you just exposed yourself, which is really against the law. Time to talk to your wife and to a counselor before you find yourself in a situation much worse. Transgender people all over the world are trying to become a normal part of society, things like this sets us back and makes it just that much harder for us to be out. :-(

[reb.femme]

This sounds more like one of those stories out of Club 21 that were about in the 70's. Sorry, put me down as sceptical in the extreme.

Rebecca

[Tracii G]

I would not be surprised is that store will refuse service to the next TG that goes in there.
I find the whole escapade just sick.......... sorry but thats how I feel.

[Erica Marie]

I would not be surprised is that store will refuse service to the next TG that goes in there.
I find the whole escapade just sick.......... sorry but thats how I feel.

I dont think anyone needs to feel sorry for their honest opinion. I think anyone who pulls such a prank, then "Is dying to tell someone about it" should be sorry for the damage it does on the TG community. Everything about this so very wrong.

[Tina_gm]

Me too rebecca, me too. I have a really hard time believing in it all. If it is true, and sadly it may be, (I really hope not) these are the people that are setting us back and keeping us from getting any respect.

[Allisa]

I feel that all the steps we have taken to advance acceptance, you have in one fell swoop set us(the CD/TG community) back again. I just hope it was no where near where I live, I have fought hard to dispel the beliefs that you now have reinforced. Shame on you. Keep your perversions behind your own doors. This may be deleted but it's how I feel.

[Sarasometimes]

LeighR, this has nothing to do with trying on a dress! Two things, either the story is made up, which I hope is the case or what HE did should have gotten him arrested and made to explain himself to a judge! My concern now is that he is further getting his rocks off by our outrage, i' m personally done with this thread, I consider it closed and I hope that becomes official!

[celeste26]

Can we even be certain this was real? Or does it belong in the Fictionmania story archive? I'm not buying it as real. A first time post in the wrong web site.

[Lorileah]

I think this is horrible that this happened to you, it doesn't sound you did anything wrong and became a victim of a sick prank. I mean the fact they could see the outline of your privates in the dress does that mean if your wearing a tight men's bathing suit your exposing yourself. I'm so sorry this happened.

Really? That's your take on someone who purposely chooses outfits that are too tight and wears no underwear? The OP admitted to going "commando". Ewww for one because I would not want to be the next person to try that on after someone most likely left some sort of remainder.

Not knowing where the OP was, I wonder about the veracity of the whole thing. After talking to the women, they let the OP go? Sexual crimes aren't usually dismissed that quickly. Also the fact that TWO women filed the complaint makes you wonder if something more wasn't done or said. i cannot imagine ANY sales woman complimenting you on your penis. Too many holes in this for me.

[Rachael Leigh]

I sincerely retract all my statements sorry if I offended anyone here. He made poor judgment and prob should be heald accountable for his actions. My bad for defending someone who may also have been a victim

[Bobbi46]

having read all the replies to this posting I am surprised that he has not been banned from this forum. reading all that has been said so far I am totally disgusted by what he did, the full enormity has been well and truly exposed and discussed here. The attitude and blatant disregard for public decency has gone way beyond the norm for proper decency in society.
It also bordering if not definitely bordering on a perverted and twisted outlook on life and to expect people accept and condone this sort of behaviour is just plain out of order.
Totally outrageous.

[IamWren]

Can we even be certain this was real? Or does it belong in the Fictionmania story archive? I'm not buying it as real. A first time post in the wrong web site.

As i got through the first few paragraphs i was beginning to wonder if he thought he sent this to Penthouse letters.

I am very new to CDing and have admitted in another thread and will again here that part of CDing is sexually arousing for me but only in that i have a hard time tucking for a few minutes.

This is on a totally different level and to the OP... if your story is true i think you are probably in need of professional help.

[lisa_vin]

If this is a true story then this line from it tells the tale: What I like is to cross dress for females. It sounds like a crossdressing man hoping to have sex with a woman while dressed en femme by trying to "entice" her by exposing his "manhood" purposely. Why else would he not be wearing underwear while trying on revealing women's clothes and asking for help and advice while showing the sales person the "results".

Disgusting and shameful!

[Bobbi46]

I do not think that lovetocd should be allowed to remain within the forum.

[Alice Torn]

Whether or not this story is true or fiction, when you push the limits and play with fire, like that, you might get burned. A disgusting stupid thing to do, and if true, you are lucky you were not put in a jail cell, with bad dudes. DO NOT DO SUCH A THING AGAIN, FOR YOUR SAKE, AND OTHER CD/TGS.

[Lovetocd]

Ok, I read all your replies and I am sorry if I offended anyone. I do realize what I did was wrong and hurtful. Have I done this in the past? Yes, I have. I always ask the salesgirl if it is ok to come out. I always inform them that the dress is sexy and revealing. This is the first time that I received a negative reaction and had police involved. Did I learn my lesson? Yes, I believe that I realize how disturbing this is to strangers. Will I ever do it again? Yes, I feel with the right circumstance and willing full person, I will do it again. I apologize if anyone feels this hurts the tg/ts community, I really do apologize. I think even if I seeked professional assistance, I wouldn't change on how I feel and what my fantasies are. Can you really just turn off how you feel about something?

[debstar]

Wow, this thread just keeps on giving.

[edit]

We have probably all been in that mind space, CDing can begin as a very sexual initially .. but some restraint and common decency must be adhered to. Keep your wild fetishes in the privacy of your own home.

You are pushing everything to the limits and seem not to under stand how to interpret a Woman's polite disquiet with the situation you put her in. If this has to be a slap in the face and a wake up call ... so be it.

People do not exist on this earth just for your own personal pleasure.

[LeslieSD]

I think even if I seeked professional assistance, I wouldn't change on how I feel and what my fantasies are. Can you really just turn off how you feel about something?

I disagree with you.

Yes, very few thing can change how one feel or fantasy about. But there is a line between fantasize about it (which is in your thought) or put it into action. Take for example, one might fantasize about a girl (or a man) in their office and got excited thinking about them, and that is perfectly legal. But to expose yourself to your fantasy is not.

You might argue that you are simply "showing them your cloth and ask for opinions". That will be completely BS. "Showing cloth and ask for opinions" in store does not mean or include that you can expose your genital (which is illegal). What you did violates law, and that is not a matter of society's discrimination. You violated other people with your action, and you should stop doing that.

Again, how you feel, how you fantasize, how you think is completely your own business. But if you put it into an action that violates the law, you will be punished.

[Bonnie Chan]

It seems like OP can't dress at home due to his wife and that's why he has a need to dress somewhere which he unfortunately decides it would be in a public store. If you're going to do this again I recommend you first find a time and place that you can dress privately in secret, then buy woman clothes and dress on your own without disturbing anyone. A lot of us has to go through all that to follow the public law, and most importantly not disturb any strangers in public (that's the whole point about the law anyway.)

About the event, I would not be too optimistic about the saleswoman saying you looked "nice". Facing reality, she might just say that to not cause a scene with you out of afraid, or she could just try to sell the cloth to you. Now next is just my hypothesis, the woman customer might get disturbed by your action about exposing private area, so she complained to the saleswoman and saleswoman can't keep things quiet anymore by herself so she had to call a police to satisfy her woman customer. I can understand the saleswoman can be tolerated by some of customer actions so she can sell more and that's why the first time she didn't have a problem with it.

- Bonnie

[heatherdress]

Ok, I read all your replies and I am sorry if I offended anyone. I do realize what I did was wrong and hurtful. Have I done this in the past? Yes, I have. I always ask the salesgirl if it is ok to come out. I always inform them that the dress is sexy and revealing. This is the first time that I received a negative reaction and had police involved. Did I learn my lesson? Yes, I believe that I realize how disturbing this is to strangers. Will I ever do it again? Yes, I feel with the right circumstance and willing full person, I will do it again. I apologize if anyone feels this hurts the tg/ts community, I really do apologize. I think even if I seeked professional assistance, I wouldn't change on how I feel and what my fantasies are. Can you really just turn off how you feel about something?

OK - This is now all BS. Sorry to waste my time.

[sometimes_miss]

Could be real, could be fiction, either way, it's just wrong. It's the tale of a 13 year old looking for a thrill.

[Ruby John]

I second!! This is now all BS. Ruby

[Sara Jessica]

Will I ever do it again? Yes, I feel with the right circumstance and willing full person, I will do it again.

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A WILLING PERSON IN THE SCENARIO YOU DESCRIBE.

This is either really bad reality or really lame fiction.

[Paula J]

Could be real, could be fiction, either way, it's just wrong. It's the tale of a 13 year old looking for a thrill.

Bingo. This sounds like a complete fantasy i.e BS to me. And if you are actually doing this, wether or not the police were ever called or you were locked in a store by two SAs (I find the idea of the back door being lockable so you can't exit very questionable too), your behaviour is highly unacceptable, and is going to land you in all kinds of trouble. Get help, and get it now.

[debstar]

Are we being trolled?

[Tonya Rose]

Sounds like Bull Sh#T to me!!!!!

[Melissa Rose]

I am smelling a troll also. It is time to stop feeding it.

[Shelly Preston]

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