Playing the housewife...for real

[jessica_brink]

Recently I got an offer from this guy who I see from time to time as a girl and thus knows about my crossdressing. He asked if I would like to be his wife for about two weeks. This means living with him dressed as a girl, doing chores, staying over, etc. He wants it to be as real as possible so I'll have to be dressed 24/7, during daytime in regular women's clothing and at night in nighties, curlers,.. Personally I really like the idea of playing a man's wife, even though I'm straight.

Has anyone ever done this before, even if it was for a much shorter or longer time? How was the experience?

What are some suggestions to make the 'real housewife' experience even more believable and accurate?

[Lorileah]

Just remember, the fantasy is far far better than reality. Let someone know where you're going to be. Leave yourself an out.

I had two offers similar, both people turned out to be more than scary mentally. they scene went places that would have dangerous.

[jessica_brink]

I completely understand it might be scary and dangerous but I know this person quite well and know for a fact that he's fully sane. He just wants to help me expose my girl side more as that's the side he loves. I can leave at any time if I would really want to and I can let people know where I am, so there's no real danger involved.

[Krisi]

............. Personally I really like the idea of playing a man's wife, even though I'm straight.

You won't be "straight" any more.

[DanielleLee]

ahhh.... what Krisi said... :brolleyes:

[Joni T]

You're not '' straight'' if you want to be with another man. Period.
Jon

[fionna]

I completely understand it might be scary and dangerous but I know this person quite well and know for a fact that he's fully sane. He just wants to help me expose my girl side more as that's the side he loves. I can leave at any time if I would really want to and I can let people know where I am, so there's no real danger involved.

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I don't have the experience on this. But for me sounds like good fun if there is a real agreement on where are the boundaries.

I would not care about the Straight or something else. We are not talking about sex aren't we? :D

It's all about were are those limits and boundaries and if that works for BOTH of you. As you can said. You can walk away at any moment.

[Stephanie47]

This is material that may make an interest blog?? I'd suggest finding out the extent he wants you to be a wife. I don't know of too many men who do not like to have the opportunity to have sex for two weeks.

[pamela7]

sounds like a subdom game to me and horrifically gender stereotyped. women's work is not in the home these days, its all shared.

[Lorileah]

sounds like he gets the best pat of the deal. He gets his house cleaned while watching a fantasy woman dressed in provocative clothing (or none at all usually), maybe she cooks and maybe she satisfies him sexually. She gets...a chance to play house. I could use a maid for free too and I don't care what they wear, I'll be watching TV.

Have fun. It will be a game and you do need rules. You also need a plan to say when the game is over. I belong to an S&M community where scenes like this occur. When with someone you trust it can work out.

[kittie60]

I have done it a couple of times over the years, not for a couple of tweaks but for a weekend. It was great. There was no sex,like you he really wanted to let me experience the feel. He was a sweetheart,and a gentleman. I was treated with respect and I did to him to. Like I said go for it. It'll be an experience you'll never forget. Just be safe thats all

[heatherdress]

Sounds very creepy and very risky. Someone you see "from time to time" but you "know him well"? He loves your "girl side"? Sounds more than weird.

He wants you to be his pretend "full time wife", with nighties, sleeping over, cleaning his house. What else does he suspect? Would you sleep over if you were not dressed in a nightie?

Are you "out" and if not, don't you totally risk being exposed and maybe even worse.

This does not sound like a "good adventure", or a game, or something smart to do. It really can be dangerous for you, Jessica.

[docrobbysherry]

I had a similar "opportunity" some years ago, Jessica. On a dating site, a man that flirted with me often offered to fly me to Florida for an all expenses paid 1st class weekend going out or staying in at a 5 star hotel. And, since I'm straight he promised no hanky panky. No house cleaning either!:heehee:

He was mature, smaller than me, and had a rep as a complete gentleman with T's he had dated on the site. The fantasy of having a man treating me like lady was very appealing! I wasn't worried about him forcing himsel on me. But, like others said above, I passed because the thot of being alone with a man really creeped me out. :doh:

I knew the girl he took instead of me. She said he was as promised, a total sweetie and it was the greatest weekend of her T life! Of course, she is bi-------:straightface:

[xNicolex]

Personally I can't see the appeal in this, its weird and a bit creepy to be playing a role that is kinda sexist but thats just my opinion. It would make me feel very uncomfortable but if thats your kinda thing not my place to says its wrong.

[Danitgirl1]

I am far too much of a feminist to want to do this.
I also think that this kind of fantasy is what gets so many feminists so riled up about the trans community.
Some of them think we are all trying to achieve this supposed 'ideal' of femininity this is what leads to some feminists becoming TERFs.
You are of course entitled to your fantasies but I don't think they do our community any favours.
:2c:

[jessica_brink]

You're not '' straight'' if you want to be with another man. Period.
Jon

Joni, Danielle and Krisi, there's not been talk about being intimate with him. Besides, when I become a girl, I will still be straight then.

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sounds like a subdom game to me and horrifically gender stereotyped. women's work is not in the home these days, its all shared.

I know, but I want to have a stereotypical role, to make it feel even more feminine

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I have done it a couple of times over the years, not for a couple of tweaks but for a weekend. It was great. There was no sex,like you he really wanted to let me experience the feel. He was a sweetheart,and a gentleman. I was treated with respect and I did to him to. Like I said go for it. It'll be an experience you'll never forget. Just be safe thats all

Sounds great, hope it'll be something just like that!

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Sounds very creepy and very risky. Someone you see "from time to time" but you "know him well"? He loves your "girl side"? Sounds more than weird.

He wants you to be his pretend "full time wife", with nighties, sleeping over, cleaning his house. What else does he suspect? Would you sleep over if you were not dressed in a nightie?

Are you "out" and if not, don't you totally risk being exposed and maybe even worse.

This does not sound like a "good adventure", or a game, or something smart to do. It really can be dangerous for you, Jessica.

Thanks for the concern but trust me, I know the guy well enough to be sure there's no danger involved. The nightie is just regular women sleepwear, like I said I like it to be stereotypical

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Personally I can't see the appeal in this, its weird and a bit creepy to be playing a role that is kinda sexist but thats just my opinion. It would make me feel very uncomfortable but if thats your kinda thing not my place to says its wrong.

To me it would be the ultimate experience as a girl. The stereotypical elements only make it more appealing to me actually, I just like being a 'helpless, feminine woman". I know it's not everyone's cup of te

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I am far too much of a feminist to want to do this.
I also think that this kind of fantasy is what gets so many feminists so riled up about the trans community.
Some of them think we are all trying to achieve this supposed 'ideal' of femininity this is what leads to some feminists becoming TERFs.
You are of course entitled to your fantasies but I don't think they do our community any favours.
:2c:

Many replies on this topic seem to be about this matter, but I don't represent the whole crossdressing community. To me being a woman is a fantasy, and not something to be taken too seriously, but that's different for everyone. I like pretending to be the stereotypical housewife who cleans around the house and wears curlers at night, but that doesn't mean I think that's how modern women behave or should behave.

[heatherdress]

If you really seek ideas for a "real housewife" experience, this forum is the wrong place to seek help. Not many people here are real housewives.

[CarlaWestin]

This sounds like there's a real desire to fulfill a fantasy role. Have you actually tried to stay in character for any extended length of time.
But, you did mention that it was just for two weeks. Can your everyday life accomodate this?

[jessica_brink]

This sounds like there's a real desire to fulfill a fantasy role. Have you actually tried to stay in character for any extended length of time.
But, you did mention that it was just for two weeks. Can your everyday life accomodate this?

Staying in character is no problem once I have some lingerie, a dress and a wig on. I get girly instantly and stay like that as long as I'm dressed. He told himself it would be for two weeks, and during our free time so that's no issue.

[sarah87]

all the stereotyping aside, if this makes you happy, is something you want to do and you feel safe in the situation then it is your life and I say have fun with it.

[ReineD]

What are some suggestions to make the 'real housewife' experience even more believable and accurate?

Well, from a GG's POV who actually was a traditional housewife (stayed at home raising the kids) for about 20 years, it basically means the same as anyone who is single and who does all their chores anyway, except there is more time to do it in (during the day time) rather than at night and on weekends if someone has a job outside the home. It means during the evening and on weekends you can spend time with your boyfriend doing what people do to relax (watching TV, gaming, going out) and during the day it's housework, yard work, laundry, planning menus, shopping for food and cooking it. If he is nice, he will help with the dishes. You obviously won't have kids to care for, run around to all their activities and stay on top of their homework, and so you can tackle extra projects. Is the toilet leaking and does it need replacement parts? Does a room need painting? Maybe you could put up the interior and exterior Holiday decorations. Any hardwood floors need sanding, or windows need caulking? Any small electrical appliance repairs? You can find out how to do anything on youtube. And wear old clothes to do all the chores in. You don't want to mess up your good clothes.



at night in nighties, curlers,

FYI, for an authentic experience, married GGs normally put on their nighties when they go to bed, as opposed to hanging out in them all evening, if this is what you are thinking. As to curlers, do they still sell those? Using a hair dryer with brush and optionally a curling iron after you wash your hair is likely the more usual thing to do, which isn't a huge investment in time.


He gets his house cleaned while watching a fantasy woman dressed in provocative clothing (or none at all usually),

Ummm, no. lol. Most of us don't run around in provocative clothing ... unless maybe during the honeymoon stage, but this is an authentic housewife experience the OP wants? But, we certainly do put on sexy things when having sex. :)



He was mature, smaller than me, and had a rep as a complete gentleman with T's he had dated on the site.

+? We have Admirer members who go from girl to girl on this site? And there's a rating system? :D

[Connie D50]

If you want to do go for it. If I wasn't married would love the chance you can always leave if it's not what you want. Yes let other know what your doing butyou know him have fun.

[fionna]

Jessica. As long its safe, I still think that should be good fun.

I see the point about roles or stereotypical. However, this is more a fantasy/role play. And I don't see why should be taken it seriously.

[jessica_brink]

FYI, for an authentic experience, married GGs normally put on their nighties when they go to bed, as opposed to hanging out in them all evening, if this is what you are thinking. As to curlers, do they still sell those? Using a hair dryer with brush and optionally a curling iron after you wash your hair is likely the more usual thing to do, which isn't a huge investment in time.

I know curlers are outdated but it's so feminine and girly I really want them in my hair (or wig).

[Marcelle]

Hi Jessica,

Personally not my thing but if you have ground rules set, feel safe, and this is what floats your boat then have at it and enjoy. I know there has been some comments about this being a sexist thing and I can understand how people may think this is demeaning to women (kind of went there first myself). However, you are two consenting adults, this is not being forced on you and you seem to understand it is a fantasy not the reality of the everyday woman. Some time ago we had a group of civilians (I am military) come out to the field during a military exercise to experience life as a soldier. So we dressed them up, let them do most of the things we do, experience life living in the mud, sleeping little and walking much. They had an understanding and it was a big thrill to them but they always knew it was not the real deal but they still had fun.

I say "enjoy".

Cheers

Marcelle

[Sarah Beth]

I have more than once gotten dressed up and done housework around our house. Not for more than a day at a time and I'm married so I'm not going to go over and stay with someone and do that sort of thing I don't think my wife would appreciate me doing that for someone else. I feel like if this is your fantasy and it's something you want to try and you can be sure you are safe and the guy is sane then go do it. Don't worry about how sexist or anything it may be to others after all it's just something for you, your fantasy not like you are saying to world it should be this way.

[5150 Girl]

After a while, it all becomes routine. When one really is a housewife that's just how it is... Yes I wear a nightly to bed with my wife, (unless it's cold, then it's flease PJ's) and I do most to all the domestic chores. But, that's just how it is. It's just a matter of daily routine. There is no frilly little fantasy life like I think the OP believes it will be.

[Vickie_CDTV]

This has "warning" written all over it with lights and sirens. If you are straight, why you would want to do this for a man? I know there are virtually no GGs out there looking for a "housewife", but he might felt lead on. And given you don't know him well, it is just a bad idea all around.

[skirt_guy]

Lots of advice, let us know how it went!!

[AngelaYVR]

Don't forget to nag him that he never takes you anywhere, make sure you get some spending money and castigate him for leaving the bathroom a mess.

[docrobbysherry]

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+? We have Admirer members who go from girl to girl on this site? And there's a rating system? :D
And, some folks think u have no sense of humor, Reine!:devil:
No. The same time I came out here I naively joined a "Date a CD" site also!:heehee:
Hoping to meet a CD accepting GG.:battingeyelashes:

Recently, I went back after not visiting for years and found my membership still works. But, it's the same old sausagefest as back in the day!:doh:

[PaulaQ]

You won't be "straight" any more.

Our sexual orientation doesn't change hon. Jessica_brink is whatever she is. She may discover that she's bi, or perhaps she's really straight, but with a very unusual guy who may very well not be straight.


Besides, when I become a girl, I will still be straight then.

:) True story - before I transitioned, I was always with women, never guys. I was married twice, in fact, the second marriage lasting 18 years. Pretty straight, right?
Now I've transitioned, and I'm with a guy. We've been together over a year now, and he's making matrimonial noises. Again, pretty straight.
So is it some kind of hormonal miracle that made me switch my attraction from women to men? Nope. Turns out I'm bisexual. I always liked both men and women - I just never did anything with guys pre-transition because it's WAAAAY easier to be straight. Doesn't matter that I didn't do anything - I surely was attracted to some guys in my past life, and that's really the defining characteristic. (People who argue that you aren't bi until you've had sex with folks of more than one gender would then have to believe that someone who's a virgin couldn't possibly be straight - they haven't slept with a person of the opposite sex, therefore they must not be straight...) I just wasn't honest with myself in the past about how I felt.

So... you can believe what you want about your clothes magically making you straight if you are attracted to this guy, either sexually or romantically. (They are separate things, believe it or not. So for example you could be heterosexual but biromantic or homoromantic.) But I don't think that will be any more true for you than it was for me. I don't want to label you - but you should consider thinking about your feelings before you do this, or you should definitely think about them AFTER it's over. Because I think there is a reasonable chance that one or both of you are bi. BTW, clothes wouldn't change the label of your sexual orientation, not unless you actually identify as a woman. In which case, if you don't like women now, and feel like you are, in fact a woman, then yeah, you are straight.

Anyway, if you do figure out that you are bi (not saying you are), it's really OK to be bisexual. There's nothing special about being straight or gay. (There's really nothing special about being straight - there are just lots of cis-het people who for some reason think that being numerous makes them unique. I talk to them about their sex lives - people talk with me about sex a lot. I don't know why. Anyway, with only a few exceptions, these are boring conversations. The gays or lesbians I know often have interesting sex lives. The bi people I know generally have really interesting sex lives. Poor straight people!)

In any case, I suspect you'll have some things to think about after this exercise. Good luck and I hope it's fun!

I'd actually be the worst housewife ever. I can't cook, I'm terrible at housekeeping, and I almost never wear nighties or pajamas to bed. So I'm sure I'd disappoint someone who wanted that stuff from me.

BTW, if you want the most realistic experience possible, offer to take care of a friend's kids for the duration of the time you are with your friend. Especially if they are around 4-5 - before school age. That should give you a very realistic simulation of what women experience! ;) edit: oh yeah, and go ahead and work a job during all of this too!

[jessica_brink]

This has "warning" written all over it with lights and sirens. If you are straight, why you would want to do this for a man? I know there are virtually no GGs out there looking for a "housewife", but he might felt lead on. And given you don't know him well, it is just a bad idea all around.

Because only a man can really make me feel like a woman, and I do know him well enough to trust

[heatherdress]

Jessica - If you are going to do this - good luck. You don't need any comments from anyone else.

[suchacutie]

Two weeks is a long time. My two suggestions are 1) do a trial run for a long weekend, and 2) make sure both of you understand the 'exit'strategy'.

Although this might seem simple, the long time period increases the possible complexities. Have a good plan and keep us in the loop as a part of staying grounded! Best of luck.

[ReineD]

Because only a man can really make me feel like a woman, and I do know him well enough to trust

I've seen others here post similar sentiments. Feeling like a woman comes from external things like clothes and proximity to men (whether sexual or not).

You say you trust him, but at the same time I'd tell a friend where you'll be, and arrange to text them on a daily basis with instructions that if they don't hear from you for a few days, they should contact authorities. It may all turn out OK but if you have not placed yourself in such intimate circumstances before, it wouldn't hurt to take precautions.

[atlflygirl]

Perhaps you two could go out on playdates first to see how things work out before you become his wife? If you see him open doors for you, pick up the check, hold your hand in the theater and cover your shoulders with his coat on a chilly autumn night, then perhaps that man is enough of a gentleman to be your play husband. If he doesn't want to do those things, he's likely not worth being with in the first place. Personally, I cannot imagine being someone's wife if he does not treat me well as a woman, so you may want to take him for a few spins around the block before buying.

[jessica_brink]

Perhaps you two could go out on playdates first to see how things work out before you become his wife? If you see him open doors for you, pick up the check, hold your hand in the theater and cover your shoulders with his coat on a chilly autumn night, then perhaps that man is enough of a gentleman to be your play husband. If he doesn't want to do those things, he's likely not worth being with in the first place. Personally, I cannot imagine being someone's wife if he does not treat me well as a woman, so you may want to take him for a few spins around the block before buying.

He's always been very caring of me, treating me like a real girl. When we're private he does sometimes slap my butt or grab my breasts, but I don't mind. Couples do that too after all.

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Two weeks is a long time. My two suggestions are 1) do a trial run for a long weekend, and 2) make sure both of you understand the 'exit'strategy'.

Although this might seem simple, the long time period increases the possible complexities. Have a good plan and keep us in the loop as a part of staying grounded! Best of luck.

If it doesn't go as planned we'll just stop, snap out of our roles. I hope it does though

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Jessica - If you are going to do this - good luck. You don't need any comments from anyone else.

Thx sweetie! Any suggestions for being a housewife maybe? x

[MissTee]

Sounds like you have a plan. Good luck, have fun, and keep us posted.

[sometimes_miss]

I am far too much of a feminist to want to do this.
My understanding was that being a feminist meant a woman being able to make the choice on what she wanted to do, rather than have it decided for her. Some feminists LIKE being stay at home moms / housewives. If that's what they, or us, want, then why not?

I naively joined a "Date a CD" site also!:heehee: Hoping to meet a CD accepting GG.:battingeyelashes:
<snip> But, it's the same old sausagefest as back in the day!:doh:
Yup. Been there. Same experience.

Because only a man can really make me feel like a woman, and I do know him well enough to trust
No one can 'make' you feel like a woman. Only you can choose to feel that way, based on how you feel about the way people behave around you, and with you.

Just remember, the fantasy is far far better than reality.
^this. I have to add, that a lot of our willingness to submit to servitude and/or abuse probably comes from the idea that we'll do pretty much anything in order to be accepted dressed and behaving as female. The other is perhaps the subconscious feeling of guilt for wanting this so much, that we're even willing to put up with punishment or sexual abuse (or even welcoming it) in order to achieve our goal of that female role. The whole forced feminization concept revolves around all of this.
And, Jessica, the inconsistancies in your posts which Laurana pointed out seem to indicate this is either just a fantasy you're wishing to work out, or perhaps you haven't thought through completely just yet.
Whatever it is, please be careful.

[Taylor186]

A lot of good advice here, but really, only two months ago you posted this:

"I don't go out dressed, I only dress secretly at home, mostly full. I don't own any clothes but always put on my mom's or sisters'" [see original post] (http://www.crossdressers.com/forums/showthread.php?230318-Crossdressing-at-costume-party&p=3820240&viewfull=1#post3820240)

And, now you are going to be out fully dressed for two weeks? Puzzling?

[JosieH]

I would love an opportunity to play a real housewife....of BEVERLY HILLS.
I see myself as a Lisa VanDerPump type. ;)

[Stephanie Julianna]

Years ago in my early 30's I would go to my boyfriend's apartment in NYC for 4-5 days at a time. I would be in girl mode from the time I got there and changed to the time I left. My Sam was the better cook so he did that but I would do the housework. We would hang out together and then at night we would go out for late drinks and socializing. I'd dress to the nines and he in a suit. Because I could pass we sometimes mixed with the general public as a couple and at other times went to the bars and clubs that catered to crossdressers. Once the bouncer at a TV Club told us that it was only for crossdressers until I thanked him in my deepest voice possible for the compliment. Afterward we returned to the apartment at the corner of Columbus and west 90th. It was a great experience to live these short periods en femme. Two weeks would be heaven but be prepared for some evtra activities, ASfter all, you cannot be around a man that long without his wanting some kind of reward for treating you like a lady.

[jessica_brink]

A lot of good advice here, but really, only two months ago you posted this:

"I don't go out dressed, I only dress secretly at home, mostly full. I don't own any clothes but always put on my mom's or sisters'" [see original post] (http://www.crossdressers.com/forums/showthread.php?230318-Crossdressing-at-costume-party&p=3820240&viewfull=1#post3820240)

And, now you are going to be out fully dressed for two weeks? Puzzling?

You're absolutely right, but that was right before I met this guy, and he has bought all my clothes since. Also we won't be going out, or at least not that much.

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Years ago in my early 30's I would go to my boyfriend's apartment in NYC for 4-5 days at a time. I would be in girl mode from the time I got there and changed to the time I left. My Sam was the better cook so he did that but I would do the housework. We would hang out together and then at night we would go out for late drinks and socializing. I'd dress to the nines and he in a suit. Because I could pass we sometimes mixed with the general public as a couple and at other times went to the bars and clubs that catered to crossdressers. Once the bouncer at a TV Club told us that it was only for crossdressers until I thanked him in my deepest voice possible for the compliment. Afterward we returned to the apartment at the corner of Columbus and west 90th. It was a great experience to live these short periods en femme. Two weeks would be heaven but be prepared for some evtra activities, ASfter all, you cannot be around a man that long without his wanting some kind of reward for treating you like a lady.

What a lovely story. Personally I dont mind extra activities, if he makes me feel like a woman then I'll prove hm that I can be one. What kind of activities are you talking about? (if it's inappropriate to post here sned me a private message)

[TrishaTX]

. I don't know of too many men who do not like to have the opportunity to have sex for two weeks.

Lol most men don't have sex with their wives for two weeks!!!!!

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One more point...if this is safe and you want to do it...do it..we only live once...

[Laurana]

You're absolutely right, but that was right before I met this guy, and he has bought all my clothes since. Also we won't be going out, or at least not that much.

I'm not trying to be rude here just blunt:

Hold on, you met some guy two months ago and I quote "who I see from time to time as a girl". But yet you also said you didn't have any of your own clothes and didn't go out dressed.

Now this guy is buying all your clothes and wants you to spend two weeks at his place?

And you think he's not going to try to get some?

You've already said he slaps your butt and grabs your breast.


You also say you're straight and that there has been no talk of sex but then "Personally I dont mind extra activities, if he makes me feel like a woman then I'll prove hm that I can be one."

I'm pretty sure you know what kind of "extra activities" Stephanie was talking about.


Just one last thing; you keep tossing the word "stereotypical" around. Please stop it. There is no such thing as a stereotypical housewife anymore.

[jessica_brink]

I'm not trying to be rude here just blunt:

Hold on, you met some guy two months ago and I quote "who I see from time to time as a girl". But yet you also said you didn't have any of your own clothes and didn't go out dressed.

Now this guy is buying all your clothes and wants you to spend two weeks at his place?

And you think he's not going to try to get some?

You've already said he slaps your butt and grabs your breast.


You also say you're straight and that there has been no talk of sex but then "Personally I dont mind extra activities, if he makes me feel like a woman then I'll prove hm that I can be one."

I'm pretty sure you know what kind of "extra activities" Stephanie was talking about.


Just one last thing; you keep tossing the word "stereotypical" around. Please stop it. There is no such thing as a stereotypical housewife anymore.

I've been talking to the much longer than that, but it's only since two months that I've met him as a girl, he also brought me girl clothes the first time and has been doing so ever since. He is very nice and totally understandable. When he touches me, it's because he knows I like that. And if he wants to take it further, I just might do that, I think he deserves it because he's so nice and has bought many clothes already. Remember, there's a difference between me normally and me as a girl.
Also with stereotypical housewife I mean the old image people get when they think of one, like from tv. I know of course it's not correct, but not every Britt walks around with a bowl hat and an umbrella, yet that's the stereotype.They are not real.

[Samantha_Smile]

Sounds ridiculously sexist to me to be honest.

If he want's it to be "as real as possible", might I suggest engaging in arguments about the correct default toilet seat position.
Perhaps a spot of fighting over the half-way line on the duvet?

Is this too tame?

You might need to upgrade to going to bed with him, get all cuddly and then make it abundantly clear that you have a headache.


Christ, does anyone here have any respect for women at all? Why do I feel like everyone's interpretation of femininity is based around household chores and pleasing a man's appetites?

[Laurana]

I've been talking to the much longer than that, but it's only since two months that I've met him as a girl, he also brought me girl clothes the first time and has been doing so ever since.

Yeah....you'll be putting out. Or he'll find someone else to play his wife.


He is very nice and totally understandable. When he touches me, it's because he knows I like that. And if he wants to take it further, I just might do that, I think he deserves it because he's so nice and has bought many clothes already. Remember, there's a difference between me normally and me as a girl.

For someone who claims to be a straight guy you're sounding really easy.

And please, enlighten us as to the difference between you dressed as a guy and dressed as a girl. I mean we all have a different persona depending on how we dress but so far I haven't seen someone who goes from being a straight guy to a gay guy just because they're wearing a skirt.

Don't get me wrong, do what you want. It's not my life. But just don't be surprised if things turn ugly if you say no to your sugar daddy.


Also with stereotypical housewife I mean the old image people get when they think of one, like from tv. I know of course it's not correct, but not every Britt walks around with a bowl hat and an umbrella, yet that's the stereotype.They are not real.

What TV stations do you watch that that is the image you get of (house)wives? Or men in hats with umbrellas?

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Sounds ridiculously sexist to me to be honest.


Christ, does anyone here have any respect for women at all? Why do I feel like everyone's interpretation of femininity is based around household chores and pleasing a man's appetites?

I know that's not my interpretation of it.

[crobeson96]

"Remember, there's a difference between me normally and me as a girl."

There's only one you, however, whatever mode you're in. This sounds like it sounds like fun to you. I worry about someone falling in love and getting hurt, that's all. We normally advance commitment in return for commitment.

But then, you're a big girl.

[Krisi]

............ does anyone here have any respect for women at all? Why do I feel like everyone's interpretation of femininity is based around household chores and pleasing a man's appetites?

Unfortunately, this attitude is far too common among crossdressers, at least on this forum. I suspect most of those with this attitude have never been married or lived with a woman for any length of time. See the current thread complaining that women wear trousers instead of skirts.

And Jessica - I think everyone here knows how this is going to end. I think you know but won't admit it.

[JosieH]

LOL. hilarious

[chelyann]

jessica - GO HAVE FUN and let us know how it goes..pictures please.......:)
i would love to have the chance to do this, and i think some of the whining on here is just jealous...

[jessica_brink]

Hi everyone, just a quick update. We decided to do this for two days before going into the two full weeks. I have to say, it was amazing! After a while I felt like a real woman, forgetting about the real me. Even the little things like putting on a bra in the morning felt natural but oh so good! I'm definitely going ahead with the original plan

[Mark/Rebecca]

What were his thoughts on the trial run?

[jessica_brink]

He really enjoyed it as well! He saw me as a woman and not as a crossdresser which is what I wanted

[gokatiegirl]

They say there are a lot more straight cds than bi. I have yet to meet one. Perhaps its my clientele and the fact that I'm a bisexual that I never run across any straight cds? Many also consider themselves straight but don't seem to count playing with another dressed person as a gay act. Well guess what...

As for the original post, thinking of playing with a man is bi-curious, touching him changes the equation.

[Sharon B.]

Hope it works out for you the way you want, if it was me I wouldn't be straight by the time it ended.

[Sarasometimes]

Jessica,
Curious, you mention you see this man as a girl but don't elaborate about those encounters. How did you meet? How long have you known him? Any mutual friends? What do you two do together and are these public? Your current relationship is important in figuring out how this fantasy opportunity may play out.
Back a couple of months ago you feared being too real as Penny at a costume party and now you are comfortable living 2 weeks as a wife to a casual guy you know well, you go girl. You said you are straight but plan to have sex with a male, but because you will be dressed it will be straight sex...I'm confused??
Also if you have hair that you could set in rollers why consider a wig. Wig will move around and probably come off as you sleep. Also for rollers to work it would need to be human hair.

[Mark/Rebecca]

Why try to label this sister of ours? I personally don't care what orientation Jessica is and will enjoy hearing how this plays out provided she feels safe and in character the entire time. How will her perception of a housewife change? Will it become less play and more work? Ultimately will it become a normal husband/wife relationship? Will deeper feelings develop that will re-define her sexuality and/ or perceived primary gender identity?
I'm Mcdonald Cary, and so are the days of our lives.

[jessica_brink]

Jessica,
Curious, you mention you see this man as a girl but don't elaborate about those encounters. How did you meet? How long have you known him? Any mutual friends? What do you two do together and are these public? Your current relationship is important in figuring out how this fantasy opportunity may play out.
Back a couple of months ago you feared being too real as Penny at a costume party and now you are comfortable living 2 weeks as a wife to a casual guy you know well, you go girl. You said you are straight but plan to have sex with a male, but because you will be dressed it will be straight sex...I'm confused??
Also if you have hair that you could set in rollers why consider a wig. Wig will move around and probably come off as you sleep. Also for rollers to work it would need to be human hair.

We met online. Know him for half a year now. We don't have mutual friends. We go out and have a drink at places where I don't know anyone.
The costume party eventually was cancelled; we didn't get to it, so no dilemma anymore. Also I didn't say I was planning on having sex with him, I said I'll see how I feel about it then.
Finally, my hair is too short to use as women's hair and for curlers. We've tried the curlers on my wig and yes it does work, although it takes a long time to put them in.

[Lilli]

Also I didn't say I was planning on having sex with him, I said I'll see how I feel about it then.
Finally, my hair is too short to use as women's hair and for curlers. We've tried the curlers on my wig and yes it does work, although it takes a long time to put them in.

I tried something like this with a girlfriend for a weekend and I found the beardstubble in the morning an enourmous turn off for my own enjoyment, also I have to shave quite closely, doing it twice or three times in a row leaves me with a very sore face.

Otherwise i would say enjoy.
and
You'll probably have sex.

However. Good Luck

[Krisi]

Yep, you can't stay "female" 24/7. You'll have to shave and, I hope, bathe. As for sex, once you pull your panties off, it will be pretty obvious that you're not female to the both of you.

[Sarasometimes]

Something isn't adding up, I'm skeptical, good bye.

[ReineD]

I'm glad you enjoyed your two days. Not a lot of people get chances to live out their fantasies with living (and safe) partners, and so I think you'll have a good time during your two weeks.

It sounds as if you're leaving it open as to whether you'll have sex or not depending on how you will feel. I gather this would be your first time with a male? My spidey senses tell me that if he is willing to live out the fantasy with you, then he is hoping that you will go for it. Hopefully he will be patient and he will not resort to poor behavior, should you decide to not have sex with him. But, I also have the feeling that thinking about it, talking about it, and the experience of living out your fantasy during the daytime is foreplay for what might come at night, and so I don't think your friend will be disappointed.

And I don't think it matters whether your label is straight, gay, or bi. Cisgender labels don't fit well with people who cross the gender boundaries. We need a whole new set of labels for that. :)

[PaulaQ]

As for sex, once you pull your panties off, it will be pretty obvious that you're not female to the both of you.

I don't understand - I've had four girlfriends, all transsexuals, who had the same equipment I'd assume Jessica has. They were certainly women - I'd think if we were capable of learning anything on this forum it would be that genitals don't determine someone's gender.

[Krisi]

You really do understand, you are just attempting to make a self serving point.

[jessica_brink]

I'm glad you enjoyed your two days. Not a lot of people get chances to live out their fantasies with living (and safe) partners, and so I think you'll have a good time during your two weeks.

It sounds as if you're leaving it open as to whether you'll have sex or not depending on how you will feel. I gather this would be your first time with a male? My spidey senses tell me that if he is willing to live out the fantasy with you, then he is hoping that you will go for it. Hopefully he will be patient and he will not resort to poor behavior, should you decide to not have sex with him. But, I also have the feeling that thinking about it, talking about it, and the experience of living out your fantasy during the daytime is foreplay for what might come at night, and so I don't think your friend will be disappointed.

And I don't think it matters whether your label is straight, gay, or bi. Cisgender labels don't fit well with people who cross the gender boundaries. We need a whole new set of labels for that. :)

Whether we do it or not is entirely up to me, so we'll see.