French language make difference between F to M

[Nine]

I'm not here since a long time....but it seems to me that there's is no gender difference between Male to female in the language.

Here in France there's a différence between F to M.
Some T in France speak in female gender, and some others stay in male gender.

For example : I'm happy" is employed for F and M...in France we have " je suis heureux" for male gender ad "je suis heureuSE" for female gender... even for "beautiful", "beau" for man and "belle" for woman .

Is there another language who makes this difference ?

[IamWren]

Spanish is like that in that there are words that mean the same thing but would be describing a male or female. In fact, I believe all the latin based languages are this way.

[flatlander_48]

N:

I believe that is true for all of the Romance languages: French, Spanish, Portuguese, Italian, Romanian and variations.

There are also some implications for Asian languages. I remember people having trouble in Taiwan (Mandarin speakers) using the correct pronoun in English. Not even sure if there are pronouns in Chinese.

DeeAnn

[Sarah-RT]

Thats something I never even thought of, and I studied french for 6 years in school. As far as im aware in Irish its just the verb or whatever, it doesnt change by gender but then the language was technically killed off so it may not have developed sufficiently for that.

For example to say I am happy is just ''Tá Athas orm'' Which translates to I have happiness on me.
There is obviously male and female he's and she's but verbs and adjectives dont have feminine versions.

[flatlander_48]

S:

In N's example, Je suis is I am. It is the happy that changes, but not the verb.

DeeAnn

[AngelaYVR]

In Russian, everything changes - the verb and adjectives although there is no present form of the verb "to be" so the happy example above yields "Я счастлив/счастливa" (ya schastliv/schastliva) for m/f "I am happy".
There is also a third gender, neutral.

[Nine]

In french the verb can also change...
"he's gone" or "she's gone" give in french "il est allé" for M, and "elle est alléE" for F... and this only with the structure of the verb "To be" not with "to have"... (il a gagné, elle a gagné. verb To have Won)

I remember that in german too there's a neutral gender "Das".
And curiously the kind gives "Das Kind" neutral and more curiously "the little girl" gives "Das Madchen".... so neutral too

[pamela7]

i believe its only English among the major languages that does not implicitly gender objects and code words according to gender.
English also has the unusual system of possessive pronouns, whereby the gender of an object goes to the owner, whereas in Latin and Germanic languages, the object retains its own gender.

How does this all relate to crossdressing, though?

[Nine]

How does this all relate to crossdressing, though?

Maybe because according to me crossdressing is not simply wearing dress or question of make up... (sorry for my English !!),
The tittle of this thread is maybe bad... for sure i find interesting to get a kind of "crosspeaking"

[bok4fun]

I feel like I'm sitting in a classroom again. But I'm enjoying it this time!

[Katey888]

Like Parish, I also find the questions of gender in language, the nature of culture and how it affects our perception of the world and how that in turn may relate to how and why we all do what we do in this 'petite passion' we share, absolutely fascinating... :daydreaming:

However, unlike the rest of you, I also mod here - and there are enough non-English transgressions and divergent metaphors to get you all banged up for a two-stretch and community service to boot... :)

For the benefit of our newer members: All instances of non-English communications will be removed, and threads in this section must have a discernible relationship to some sort of crossdressing subject.

I'll close this thread now so that everyone can see why and, of course, "pour l'encourager les autres..." (British historical naval connection there, for anyone interested... ;))

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