Feminine Life Style Choices - Cars in Particular

[AprilMayy<3]

Hello everyone, just something that has been on my mind lately.
Has anyone ever thought about purchasing, or has purchased something, just becuase it has a femenine...err..I don't know, "connotation" to it? And no, I'm not talking about clothes or makeup :P For me, it's lately about cars honestly.
As a male, I drive a mid 90's Honda, I've posted pictures of it. But I'm looking to purchase new car. Now as a male, I'm looking at GTI's, BRZ's, something cool haha.
Now as April, I've been looking at cars, I don't know, more suited for a woman? I say that with the least sexism I can haha. I've been looking at crossovers mainly, like a CX-5, Sante Fe.

Something thats just been on my mind. Anyone think similarly about certain things?

[gabriella1964]

Hello April, its funny you should say this because normally Im a big floating boat kind of car guy, and have had alot of them, but since I started cross dressing I can see my self driving my wifes 89 z24 convertible which My kids and myself have always called it a chick car....lol Anyways ya I get what your saying, smiles Gabriella

[Tracii G]

I bought an 09 Mustang with my girl side in mind but did put a performance chip in it and a K&N cold air intake system.
It was a total girl car down to the pink monogram of my initials on the rear window and the pink and red lay around the rear view mirror.
For a V6 it was a very strong runner.
I still have my SUV with a girly hello kitty sticker in the rear window.

[AprilMayy<3]

I'm assuming the pink initials aren't "TG"? Way to make it obvious Tracii! Just kidding of course haha.

[Stephanie Julianna]

Yes to your question. When it came time to buy a commuter car back in '98 I deliberately bought a little beige Escort so that when I was out and about dressed it was a car that you would expect a woman to be driving AND it didn't draw attention on the road. Two years ago my wife bought a new car and I took her '05 light metallic blue Lexus RX330 for my Winter driving. In CT these are all over the place and mostly women drive them in this color. I watch these things. Recently I bought a vintage car and decided to go a little girlie with the color. So yes, some of us think of some cars as leaning more to a female driver than others. Here's an example of a girl car.

[flatlander_48]

I've never subscribed to the idea of a so-called Chick Car. I think it relates more to the insecurities of the guys that say that or it's a way of discounting what a woman might choose.

However, that said, I think women tend to be more driven by practicality and esthetics. By saying "tend" it would be what would be likely for the majority, but there will always be exceptions or outliers in the data.

What I said is based on what I've seen in the MINI population. There are 3 levels based around the drivetrain. In ascending power levels, it would be the base Cooper, the Cooper S and the John Cooper Works (JCW) model. You can get any drivetrain in any body shell, but considering just the drivetrain, what I've noticed is quite a few more women than men driving the base Cooper model. For the Cooper S men are in the majority, but the number of women seems significant. For the JCW models, there seems to be few women owners.

I think women would think differently about the list price/fuel consumption/performance trade offs. Not saying that it is good or bad; only different. Everyone doesn't need to hit triple digits with ease, leave black streaks or bang shifts. On occasion, I do, and that's why I own a JCW model. Further, that thought process is true for Don and DeeAnn. The only tempering factor is that I don't want to get stopped as DeeAnn. Been there, done that. Otherwise, Let 'er Rip!!

DeeAnn

[OCCarly]

This is interesting. When I was in school in the 1980's, my two favorite cars were pretty girly choices -- the Saab 900 and the first generation Mitsubishi Eclipse.

These days I drive a Mercedes C class sedan. I almost bought a CLK, but balked at the additional money I was going to have to spend. The nice thing about the small Mercedes is that it works well as either a guys or girls car. And the CLK cabriolets from 1998 to 2008 or so are my dream cars, still. I would like to find a nice clean one with the V8 engine just to have for a weekend fun car.

[Tracii G]

Nice choice on the Rambler Classic 660 Stephanie.
Have my eyes on a 69 Rambler SC.

[sometimes_miss]

The closest I would come to buying a 'woman's car' would have been a Miata or a Cayman. But I fit in neither. However, I do know several moms that drive Ford Expeditions, so I guess now I drive a woman's car.....truck.....whatever.

[flatlander_48]

Funny thing about Miatas. Mazda says that on any given weekend, there are more Mazdas raced (I believe they were referring to the US) than any other brand. I would think that the majority of those are Miatas. That doesn't seem to square with the prevailing Chick Car notion.

DeeAnn

[heatherdress]

I am crossdresser, a guy who dresses in female clothes. I am still a guy when I make a purchase like a car. Being a crossdresser does not change my thought process.

[AprilMayy<3]

It's so funny you ladies mention Miatas, haha. For youngsters like myself(19-24ish)Miatas are pretty common tuner cars. Easy to work on, stance, turbo etc etc. But now were starting to stray away from lady talk :P

[Kaze_]

No, I won't compromise on vehicle choice.

Land Rover for DD, Porsche for the days off.

[Hell on Heels]

Hell-o April
Some of the girls 'round here prefer trucks. BIG ONES!
For me it's purely utilitarian. Given a choice. I'd rather drive something
a lot more economical (and doesn't take 2 1/2 hours to wash!)

What other products are out there that might have men buying one type,
and women buying another???
Much Love,
Kristyn

[AnnieMac]

Oh great so now we are all CDs here! Crossdrivers. Any of y'all still in the garage? Or are you comfortable driving that in public? Hahaa Moto-crossdressers.

[AprilMayy<3]

Oh gosh Annie! :laughing:

[flatlander_48]

Some of the girls 'round here prefer trucks. BIG ONES!

Well, I certainly prefer BIG ONES too!


Oh, you were talking about trucks, weren't you?!?!

DeeAnn

[trisha kobichenko]

For her birthday 5 years ago, my wife asked for a convertible. We test drove a Miata, and after squeezing ourselves in, popped out of it like the Pillsbury doughboy when we opened the doors :) We landed on a VW Cabrio, also considered a 'chick car' I am told. I drive that more than I drive my pickup. My excuse is gas mileage but...

[ReineD]

Now as April, I've been looking at cars, I don't know, more suited for a woman? I say that with the least sexism I can haha. I've been looking at crossovers mainly, like a CX-5, Sante Fe.

Well, as a GG I can tell you that I have no idea what is a CX-5 or a Sante Fe.

By wanting to buy a car more suited for a woman, I'm guessing you mean you'd like to buy a car that women would buy? If that's the case I can tell you that most of us don't see cars as either being guy or girl cars. We like all types of cars based on our needs, our lifestyles, what we know about them depending on what the people we know drive, our budgets, etc. For example, when I was younger I wanted a fast, sporty manual transmission, preferably red. When my kids were little I wanted a van for strollers, car seats, car-pooling, etc. Later as my boys got older I wanted an all-terrain so I could do fun things with them. When I was on my own again I wanted a truck so I could cart the material I needed for DIY projects that I could no longer afford to hire out. Now, I just want a dependable, ecologically conscious car.

If you want to think like a girl, you need to erase the notion of girl and boy cars from your brain, because most of us don't think like that.

[Lily Catherine]

April, I really like your taste in cars. Although I thought the BRZ (Toyota 86?) would also have an appeal to you as April as well.
Kaze_, you are awesome. What model of Porsche do you drive?

I drove a Nissan G10 (Sunny) as a family car (personal cars are way out of reach) upon getting my license. It had a "chick car" (I dislike the term) vibe to it - generally unassuming with a mild hint of 'cute', not to mention the cramped headroom if you were tall enough (like my parents!)

When my family went to the Mitsubishi dealership recently (short car lifespan in Singapore!), I as James would be happy to settle for a base model Lancer with no modifications outside of a spoiler, while I as Lily would rather be seen rolling in the rugged Outlander, even if it would never see off-road use. Both are equally pragmatic choices as the Outlander will definitely be driven with the rearmost seats folded 99.97% of the time. Well, it's entirely a matter of appearance and fuel consumption.

Despite the fact that the car acts as a tool all its existence, guess there are one too many connotations attached to any given model. Doubly so for the idea of a 'real man's sports car' - usually referring to a high-performance vehicle packing an unholy amount of power.

[Jane G]

Can't say I've ever given being a CD a thought when looking at cars. I'm pretty good at choosing clothes for my wife. She chooses her own cars. I really liked the Ford Ka Cab a few years back. My wife hated it she loved the Puma. We both enjoy driving. I have a little M car for weekend drives and a Japenese hatchback for day to day. My wife has an Mx5. I can't fit in that to drive it. But I do like it. Just needs another 200 bhp. A female friend of ours drives a 700 bhp Nissan Skyline and she drives it. :heehee:

[Krisi]

Is a Toyota Camry sedan a "man's" car or a "woman's" car?

When I buy a vehicle, it's to get me where I need to go and take what I need to take. I also have a pickup truck. Not because it's manly, but because I sometimes need to haul large or dirty things.

[Trish]

I would have to say my cars are far from feminine. I have a 65 Corvette, a 69 Plymouth Road Runner, and a 2015 Corvette. I would love to own the above AMC Ambassador convertible.

[atlflygirl]

April, I must admit that my current car, a Mazda3, is a chick car. After I bought mine in 2006, my mother bought the same model, just a little sportier with a bigger engine! Most women I know are very sensible with women and like the smaller compacts. Many of them also like hybrids or electric cars. The Prius Hybrid, the Nissan Leaf, the BMW i4, etc. seem to be driven mostly by women. They obviously care more about the environment than we do.

[MarciManseau]

I'm still driving my bright yellow VW bug, with the flower vase holder. I totally LOVE it and I can't imagine anything more femme.

[Samantha981]

I'll put myself in the camp that I don't think there are 'chick' cars . Will also say that being a CD has no effect on my cars - but you have to understand for me cars are a huge passion, not just an appliance to get around in. I also see GGs driving at car club track events so don't see a conflict between feminine and performance cars ! That said... majority of GGs tend to drive more practical vehicles to get from A to B.

I am quite surprised by the types of vehicles considered chick cars... like Miatas, Caymans, Boxsters, Saab900, Eclipse. I consider them not chick or guy per se but serious performance cars (the 900 turbo and eclipse turbo). The Miata could use more pony's but is a killer autocross car. I'd have one except for the power thing and got a S2000. Next up is a Boxster/Cayman (used... prices aren't bad if patient).
I suppose I drive a bit more sedately en femme - but then driving 6 speed and heel/toeing is tricky in heels so need to be careful LOL!!

[Tina June]

I have owned a Miata for the last 16 years - it does have a reputation as a "Chick Car" - maybe that is why every year I get more girly!

[Beauty Parlor Bev]

I have owned pickup trucks for years, once you have had one it is hard to NOT have one! That being said, several years ago in a particularly "gender confused" moment, I trade mine in for a Volvo SUV! Not a particularly "chicky" car, if you even subscribe to that thought, but definitely "soccer momish"! I loved that Volvo but lo and behold the occasional need for a truck won out and when it was time for a replacement, another truck now sits in the driveway (16 Tacoma). My wife has an SUV (15 GLA), but as a compromise we have a Mini for better mileage and when I feel the need, better "chickishness" in my ride!

[flatlander_48]

B P B:

Note that it is MINI. Mini refers to the classic series. I'm assuming you have one of the BMW/MINI models. Question though: where do you fall with respect to what I said about who owns which model?

DeeAnn

[rachael.davis]

Chevrolet Malibu maxx - the model was designed as a mid level womans car. it is heaven to get in and out of in a skirt and heels.
and the drivers side visor has a lit makeup mirror

[NicoleScott]

Pick out a car that fits your budget and needs. Drive it off the car dealer's lot straight to an auto paint shop. Tell them to paint it "Cherries in the Snow". There ya go.

[Beauty Parlor Bev]

DeeAnn

I agree on your breakdown, ours is mainly my wifes and it is a base. The S is the one that the men who are really into the brand want. JCW's are kind of like MINI's STI!

[Dana44]

Well let's see. We are in Texas. The Texas vehicle is a pickup truck. We have a Dodge Ram deisel 4x4 sport 3/4 ton. Now that is a fun vehicle to get in and out in a skirt and heels. I also have a toyota 4x4 pickup. It is a solid fun widdle truck. Now my SO has a GMC 4x4 pickup. That's more of our chick mobile and we take that mostly because it is easier to park when we go to Austin. But round here, any of the trucks we can park typically. I think I took the toy to the last LBGT outing.

[Alice Torn]

beautiful blue Rambler Sephanie. I never have considered femininity when buying a used car. My 1976 Dodge Aspen, could go either way, and my 83 Ford f150 pickup is more mannish.

[daphne g]

hi ya all
after reading this thread and it is a good one,and me not really being into cars ,I've got a company vw van
i also have a little red vespa which is a bit girly
so i thought id google "girly cars" to see what you are all on about
there are a hell of a lot of choices ,and i was surprised

[pamela7]

YES, emphatically, the right "colour"/style of car. Looking back I've mostly chosen cars that could be considered ladies' cars.
Not only though for cars; pottery, plants, bedroom fabrics, cushions, throws; the list goes on!

[flatlander_48]

DeeAnn

I agree on your breakdown, ours is mainly my wifes and it is a base. The S is the one that the men who are really into the brand want. JCW's are kind of like MINI's STI!

More specifically, the JCW is to MINI as M is to BMW. The problem is that beginning in 2009 with mine, the price differential from S to JCW was roughly $6000. That got you some uprated internal engine parts, a bigger turbo, freer flowing exhaust, Brembo brakes, JCW badging and maybe a few things that I have forgotten about. Originally the S was at 172hp and the JCW was at 208. None of the engine parts for the factory JCW option were available separately. Going from memory, the Gen 2 S model eventually got up to 181hp. The Gen 3 JCW is up to 228hp while the S is now at 189hp. I think the price differential is now closer to $7000. As always, exclusivity costs.

JCWs have always been fairly rare. In 2009, the first year for the factory JCW option, MINI imported 498 to the US out of 45,000+ cars. If you split it by Hardtop, Cabriolet and Clubman like the general population, there's maybe 110-120 other 2009 JCW Clubmans out there. 2009 was also the 2nd year for the Clubman body shell and 1st for the Horizon Blue body color on mine. Horizon Blue has now been retired along with my trim color of Pure Silver.

DeeAnn

[AnnaBMarie]

Well I wouldn't buy a car specifically to blend in, but I admit that I'm a bit anxious when going out dressed in my current transportation. My 400+ HP muscle car does draw some unwanted attention.

[Cassandra*]

My idea of a girly car is a cute little sunbeam tiger. Hair up scarf blowing in the breeze bright red lipstick that matches the car and Jacki O. Sunglasses. For the guy in me it's my Ram truck as a daily and my muscle car to blow off steam. Nothing like lighting them up and launching.

[Sister Rachel]

When it comes to cars, it's always been an area where I've chosen "men's" vehicles, I like a fairly heavy, fairly powerful car with manual transmission, one that can take me four hundred miles ( that's quite a long drive here in little old Britain ) non-stop in comfort and at speed. I've had two BMW 525Ds recently, both lovely, classy big ( by British standards) hunks .. but both developing electrical problems, first fatal .. burst into flames :eek:, second just VERY expensive :( .

Soooo ... traded in for a BMW 318i ( 2 litre petrol ) last week, and I must admit I like squeezing into my "little black number",:battingeyelashes:, subtly smaller, noticeably lighter, easier to park, bit more of a "woman's" car. Sharper acceleration and decent top speed though :)

[Jamiegirl1]

I have trucks, a full size chevy 4x4 and a toyota 4x4, my wife has a 4x4 Suburban, not very girly, wish I had a little car that would blend in more , my trucks stand out , everyone knows my vehicles, I dress in Sacramento, and still sometimes have been spotted dressed.....

[ReineD]

I'm continuing to shake my head while reading this thread. I have to say that I'm trying, but I don't get it. At all. Not one bit. lol.

So is the point of buying what men consider are feminine cars, that CDers should seem more femine to men, or is it to actually be more feminine in general (including the way that women think) and therefore being viewed as feminine by everyone. Because women don't buy cars based on whether men think the cars are feminine or masculine.

Can someone please explain what's going on here? The only conclusion I have is that CDers don't think like GGs, they fundamentally think like men.

I also did a search for masculine and feminine cars. Yup, there are lots of websites, no doubt all written by men?

And finally, there are statistics about cars that have a greater percentage of male and female buyers. In the lists I looked at, generally the biggest difference was price. Men buy more expensive vehicles than women. I'm guessing the reasons are, salary inequality between men and women resulting in men that can afford to buy more expensive vehicles and also, women likely do not want to allocate as much disposable income on car payments as a men do?

[JeanTG]

women likely do not want to allocate as much disposable income on car payments as a men do?

Well I don't allocate any disposable income to car payments. I bought a new car last year and paid cash for it. The trick was buying what I could afford. I lusted for a GTI, but bought a base Golf instead.

[sometimes_miss]

So is the point of buying what men consider are feminine cars, that CDers should seem more femine to men, or is it to actually be more feminine in general
Reine, it's like panties instead of briefs. Feels better to the one in them, even when nobody else gives a crap!

Second, because men are valued for their assets. Owning a nicer car displays signs of prospective wealth. You can't argue that lots of women prefer a man with more money over one who's unemployed, all other things being equal. A new BMW beats a broken down 200,000 mile rusty VW every time.

[Georgette_USA]

Not too sure what is or isn't a girl/chick car. I have noticed a lot of my transitioned TG/TS friends have muscle or sport type cars. Also quite a few ride motorcycles also.

I drive an all black Mustang, prior was a red Mustang. When time last summer, stopped at a light and guy next over asked if I was "Mustang Sally". We talked Mustangs until light changed.

I think with all we had to endure with transition, we don't care what others think is or isn't girly.

[flatlander_48]

I also did a search for masculine and feminine cars. Yup, there are lots of websites, no doubt all written by men?

No doubt. Remember that men do a lot of posturing. They may not really care one way or the other about the choices they make, but they don't want to be perceived as a pussy (description of the prevailing thought process; not mine) unless something transcends that. The Miata is a good example. Many guys participate in the Spec Miata road racing series and in autocross. Obviously they have gotten around thinking of the Miata as a Chick Car.

DeeAnn

[Eryn]

A new BMW beats a broken down 200,000 mile rusty VW every time.

I realize this is out of context, but I could have a BMW, but I prefer to drive my classic VW.

Oh, and it doesn't have 200000 miles on it. In fact, it is over 400000!

Back on topic...
Over the years, there have been attempts to market "women's cars." They have all been expensive failures. Case in point, the Dodge La Femme

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_La_Femme

[Tommie.]

Yes, and like Dana living in Texas, I always wanted a pickup until I crossed over to CD+ and now I want an SUV.... male things don't really matter anymore.... good question.... ty.... hugs.... tommie

[Andrea2000]

I drive an old beat up Dodge truck. Ample rust in all fenders, a big gash in the side, and a tail gate that you have to jimmy with a screw driver to get it to lower. It's a vehicle that really compliments my overall M.O.. There's just something really cool about old beat up trucks, regardless of your sex or gender. Case in point, my teenage daughter can't wait for me to hand it down to her when she gets her license.

Nothing turns heads like pulling up, in a hillbilly fedora hat, old rusty truck rumbling, shut it down, engine runs backwards a turn or two, little smoke out of the tail pipe, and out I step in one of my skirts... yeah... I'm somewhat eclectic that way.

[Ineke Vashon]

I must be a real transgender. Never thought about girl/boy car. In younger years I owned two VW Beetles followed by a VW bus I camped in. Does that make me a cisBug?:eek:

For me a vehicle has to be a metal box with a minimum of four wheels, some protection against the weather and enough oomph to do what needs to be done.

And I am unanimous with that,:D

Ineke

[NicoleScott]

Reine asked "what's going on here?"

I posted a reply but it wasn't serious, as I don't think many of us (sure, there are some) seriously consider buying a "girly car". To me, the best car for crossdressing or anything else is a reliable one.

Anyway, to me, what's going on here is "artificial femininity". This thread reminds me of one a couple years ago when that OP posted "can you recommend feminine activities for me to do?" Of course, many responders shot down the idea of feminine activities. There are only stereotypes of feminine activities: cooking, sewing, knitting, shopping, etc. Oh, and losing the ability to turn a wrench. Some like to clean house while wearing a maid's outfit, but that's mostly fulfilling a fun fantasy. It just seems to me that some crossdressers "try too hard" to be feminine., and that includes the need to drive a girly car, something that few women do.

[Julia1984]

Andrea
That is one heck of an image! Where can I get such a hat as you describe? Lol.
Hugs

Julia

[pamela7]

Can someone please explain what's going on here? The only conclusion I have is that CDers don't think like GGs, they fundamentally think like men.


Hi Reine, I'm looking back to choices before i even realised my CD. Three bright yellow cars that distinctly were/are not macho. It looks and feels like I had been unconsciously choosing some things that did allow some repressed feminine side out. I know we can't say any one thing is femme or masc, no job, no activity, buy hey I preferred needlework and cookery to metalwork/woodwork at school; probably the only boy in my school who did.

You are right, we're not born with female bodies, we're not raised to think like females, all we can do is to "femulate", even when we have a knowing of being female inside. A lifetime of conditioning does not go away. You're also right, most of us to exaggerate our femme expression, perhaps becoming a caricature of women. We don't mean to, we're doing our best. Personally, I'm learning my style and expression as I go along, it'll take me years, just like it takes GG's to end up in their "rest of my life" style.

There is no "think like a man" / "think like a woman" divide, either - we're all full-spectrum. When we choose to buy something we perceive to be "girly", we're doing it cos we feel good. Having said that, when I buy a tool or cooking stuff, it's only quality that I consider, not design, just function.

[Lily Catherine]

It just seems to me that some crossdressers "try too hard" to be feminine., and that includes the need to drive a girly car, something that few women do.

This is likely it, coming from deliberate over-emphasis that occasionally veers into caricature, specifically of overt feminine cues. Even to discuss cell phones, stationery and even tattoos the arguments in this thread would be no different.

[flatlander_48]

There's just something really cool about old beat up trucks

Mamas' don't let your babies grow up to be cowboys
Don't let 'em pick guitars and drive them old trucks
Make 'em be doctors and lawyers and such

DeeAnn

[Sister Rachel]

I'm continuing to shake my head while reading this thread. I have to say that I'm trying, but I don't get it. At all. Not one bit. lol.

So is the point of buying what men consider are feminine cars, that CDers should seem more femine to men, or is it to actually be more feminine in general (including the way that women think) and therefore being viewed as feminine by everyone. Because women don't buy cars based on whether men think the cars are feminine or masculine.

Can someone please explain what's going on here? The only conclusion I have is that CDers don't think like GGs, they fundamentally think like men.

I also did a search for masculine and feminine cars. Yup, there are lots of websites, no doubt all written by men?

And finally, there are statistics about cars that have a greater percentage of male and female buyers. In the lists I looked at, generally the biggest difference was price. Men buy more expensive vehicles than women. I'm guessing the reasons are, salary inequality between men and women resulting in men that can afford to buy more expensive vehicles and also, women likely do not want to allocate as much disposable income on car payments as a men do?

Some very good and interesting points, Reine. I don't think most CDers do think like women, fundamentally, although you just can't generalise, we're all individuals, and at different places on the "gender spectrum", and all moving around on that spectrum day by day to a lesser or greater degree. Personally I've found that behind the wheel of a car it's my masculine self that comes to the fore, although as I approach the age of sixty the "boy racer" in me is fading fast ( thank god, speeding fines are a pain!). I don't know how things are in the USA ( again, you can't generalise, huge country, differences between each state etc. ) but here in the UK some women choose to get cars in pink, decorate them with butterfly stickers, buy weird "eyelashes" attachments that fit over the headlights ... I wouldn't be seen dead in such a vehicle any more than I would in some four-exhaust, lowered-suspension statement as favoured by the young high-testosterone males in these parts.

It's 1 in the morning in Britain, better get some shuteye!

[Jane G]

April, I must admit that my current car, a Mazda3, is a chick car. After I bought mine in 2006, my mother bought the same model, just a little sportier with a bigger engine! Most women I know are very sensible with women and like the smaller compacts. Many of them also like hybrids or electric cars. The Prius Hybrid, the Nissan Leaf, the BMW i4, etc. seem to be driven mostly by women. They obviously care more about the environment than we do.

LoL We each have our individual perpective and I'm not sure being a cd has enything to do with it. My daily drive is a Mazda3 Sport. I would consider it more He Man, than my Z4 Roadster. My wife calls it Zoom Zoom, as she thinks it very nippy compared to her Mx5.

[Eryn]

You decide, chick car or not?
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I really have no concept of the difference in male and female thinking. We call certain modes of thoughts "male" and "female," but is there really such a distinct line of demarcation?

[flatlander_48]

No, I view it as just a car. Can't even really say anything about the color either as it is the choice for so many out here. Anyway, pretty neutral as far as I can see.

DeeAnn

[Joni T]

Silly boy. TRUCKS are for GIRLS.
Joni

[Lorileah]

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This is the only "girl" car I would accept. The rest are just transportation

[LydiaL]

Is it not great that there are so many "motorheads" here on crossdressers.com?

I owned a Mazda Miata for some 9 years. I bought it not for whether it was masculine or feminine, but I sought a reliable, modern alternative to my previous mixed (reliability) experiences with several previously owned British sports cars. Alas, I always thought that it was (& still is) too under powered. Passing another vehicle was always a white-knuckled experience.

Job travel and cargo space eventually led me to seek something larger. That (& still) my daily driver choice an Infinity G37X Coupe all-wheel-drive. Gobs of power to blow the doors off of the aged hippies in their econo-death traps impeding reasonable progress, yet capable to handle some testy weather issues.

Too, the G37X Coupe has enough sensuous (perhaps feminine?) lines to be compatible with any crossdresser fitting right in as driver, IMO. (My Jeep XJ? None of this applies!)

Lydia L

[ReineD]

I really have no concept of the difference in male and female thinking. We call certain modes of thoughts "male" and "female," but is there really such a distinct line of demarcation?

This is to you and others who are focusing on the male or female thinking, I just want to mention that I don't think there's a difference either. But, I do notice that more men talk about cars than women, just look at this thread.

I have a lot of female friends. They do not notice the cars that drive by, let alone admire them. A car is a car, a van is a van, a truck is a truck, etc. But my sons, nephews, brother (and their male friends) seem to have definite opinions and wish lists about cars. It's an interest.

Earlier when I mentioned thinking "like a woman", it was a quick turn of phrase without spending an inordinate of time seeking precise vocabulary. lol. I meant that women do not preoccupy themselves with whether a car looks girly or not (like members in this thread) and this is not the basis upon which we buy cars. I do have wish lists but they're about travel, fresh educational experiences, remodeling or new homes (in ways that would simplify my life), art and fabulously designed innovative products among other things.

And before anyone comes back at me with the idea that women talk about fashion and makeup more than men, yes I know they do ... if they are young and learning. But they get past it like the rest of us once they've settled into their lives. I can say that the amount of time spent discussing fashion and makeup with my female friends is negligible.

[Beverley Sims]

My bloody great four wheel drive drips of testosterone but it is Beverley Sims that climbs down from it.

[flatlander_48]

I owned a Mazda Miata for some 9 years. I bought it not for whether it was masculine or feminine, but I sought a reliable, modern alternative to my previous mixed (reliability) experiences with several previously owned British sports cars. Alas, I always thought that it was (& still is) too under powered. Passing another vehicle was always a white-knuckled experience.

I've seen kits for dropping in small block Ford and Chevy V-8s. Although some are kind of boraxy, at the upper end they are surprisingly good. One of the best is from Flyin' Miata...

DeeAnn

[JeanTG]

You decide, chick car or not?

I would rate your car more as "millennial" than male or female! In the sense that today's millennials are less interested in a car as a status symbol; in fact they are much more likely than my generation to not buy a car at all, but when they need to, they pick something practical, affordable and fuel-efficient.

[Eryn]

This is to you and others who are focusing on the male or female thinking, I just want to mention that I don't think there's a difference either. But, I do notice that more men talk about cars than women, just look at this thread.

I have a lot of female friends. They do not notice the cars that drive by, let alone admire them. A car is a car, a van is a van, a truck is a truck, etc. But my sons, nephews, brother (and their male friends) seem to have definite opinions and wish lists about cars. It's an interest.

That one's easy. Automobiles are an acceptable subject for men. It is acceptable to decorate them, play with them, and even have relationships of a sort with them. Regardless of my current interests, I've had a lifetime of conforming with acceptable norms for males and that ingrains knowledge and habits that are hard to shake. Raise a woman in the same environment and she'll also talk cars. http://www.jeanknowscars.com/life-with-jean/about/more-about-jean/


...And before anyone comes back at me with the idea that women talk about fashion and makeup more than men, yes I know they do ... if they are young and learning. But they get past it like the rest of us once they've settled into their lives. I can say that the amount of time spent discussing fashion and makeup with my female friends is negligible.

I'll disagree somewhat, and present as evidence the fact that 70% of the floor space of Macy's is devoted to women's clothing and makeup and it's not all for twentysomethings. The remaining 30% is split between men, children, and housewares. If women aren't interested in clothing and makeup it sure doesn't show in their buying habits. I can't imagine that doesn't translate into a few conversations now and then. Certainly, these conversations diminish with time, since women have a lot more to think about with family, career, and children, but I don't think that they ever go away. My circle of GG friends is in their 50s and 60s and they do seem to talk a lot about each other's clothes and jewelry. Makeup, not so much.


I would rate your car more as "millennial" than male or female! In the sense that today's millennials are less interested in a car as a status symbol; in fact they are much more likely than my generation to not buy a car at all, but when they need to, they pick something practical, affordable and fuel-efficient.

Darn, I was thinking of it as rather swoopy and sporty! :) You've burst my bubble!

I will admit that practicality was a huge part of my decision-making process. That car has room for four in comfort (more back-seat room than an Accord!), enough power to satisfy my modest speed lust, and still gets mileage in the high 30s. Still, it's a car that is very popular with women.

And, it has pink license plate frames! :)

[Brandy Mathews]

April,
I would say that the new volkswagon beetles are known to be more feminine cars, especially with the little flower inside.
Bree :)