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Tracii G
05-21-2016, 01:53 PM
I have seen a few more members with the word sissy in their name.
I have often wondered if sissy means something to these people or if its used more by people that are not in the USA to describe a trans person.
I understand the fetish for sissy clothes but thats not what I am asking about there.
I do know that if someone called me a sissy I would be offended because I don't feel I am a sissy as in the dictionary definition.I may be gay and TG but I'm not a classic sissy as most people here would view one.
Just to let you know I'm not the type to get offended easily and I can put up with a lot of harassment before I will go off on a person physically.

jenni_xx
05-21-2016, 02:00 PM
You say that if someone called you sissy you would be offended.

Is the reason you would be offended simply because you are not sissy, or is the reason you would be offended is because you don't like what the word "sissy" means to you?

Tracii G
05-21-2016, 02:12 PM
I thought I made that pretty clear Jenni I would not consider myself a sissy in the classic sense and yes sissy to me is a derogatory term.
Yes I'm a male and yes I'm TG also gay but its the connotation of the word sissy.
I find being called a "pussy fag homo" just as offensive.

jenni_xx
05-21-2016, 02:28 PM
Have you ever been called a "pussy fag homo"?

|Is it that each word "pussy" "fag" "homo" is offensive to you or is becomes offensive when all three words are used together?

Or is it not so much the words themselves that are offensive but rather a particular person who uses these words towards you in order to cause offence?

Dana44
05-21-2016, 02:34 PM
I have to agree with Tracii, sissy is not a good word for any of us but perhaps the times have changed. I know the word has been used for a sissy boy who is being dominated by a girl. But for me sissy is a no no word.

jenni_xx
05-21-2016, 02:39 PM
I have to agree with Tracii, sissy is not a good word for any of us but perhaps the times have changed. I know the word has been used for a sissy boy who is being dominated by a girl. But for me sissy is a no no word.

For you it is a no no word. For me I would never use it either.

I'm playing devil's advocate here. Just because I don't like it, does that mean that someone else shouldn't use it? In this respect, I think Tracii's question is a really interesting one, and I'm only trying to delve deeper into it. :)

Piora
05-21-2016, 02:42 PM
I dislike that word. Growing up, being called that meant that you were a "panty-waist" (which ironically, I technically am, now :heehee:) or a "mama's boy". It meant you weren't a "man" in plain terms. I grew up in the UK in the 50s and early 60s, so perhaps it means something different to me, than it would others.

Lorileah
05-21-2016, 03:01 PM
Just because I don't like it, does that mean that someone else shouldn't use it?

Really poor argument IMO. It's like the "I can say because I own it" mind set. Like you get special privileges just because you are in a subset. To me it falls with any other word that has been used for years to marginalize people. Every minority has had these words, and they were used to make the person less than whole or less than equal.

Now I do understand that a certain number of people role play in that genre. I get that they like to be seen as sub (I belong to the BDSM world myself). But honestly, I find being called that offensive. Maybe if I was in that circle and presented in that manner it would be different, but the use of the word outside of the community by those who use it to hurt is just plain low.

All that said, as long as there are those who use it and use it to describe themselves, it will never go away and it will just confuse those who aren't in the community as to allowable usage. Personally, I try diligently to avoid using any word that has a negative connotation for any group of people

Tracii G
05-21-2016, 03:02 PM
I grew up in the 50's and 60's too so maybe that has something to do with it.
Yes Jenni I have been called "pussy,fag,homo" in one sentence and yes it sounds funny but when the guy is really angry maybe the attitude has something to do with it.
Granted the guys education level was lacking but offensive none the least.
I was just wanting to get an overall take on the word sissy and what everyone thinks of the word if you are referred to as one.

Pat
05-21-2016, 03:24 PM
I think in general any words used with disdain or disrespect are a problem. They could call you a Princeton-educated Doctor of Philosophy, but if they put enough topspin on it, the natural reaction is to demand, "You take that back!" Some people like 'sissy' and use it. No harm.

As to the niceties, subtleties and shades of meaning that people encode into words -- they're generally lost on people outside the field. So some cisgender yahoo is still going to use 'sissy' as a synonym for 'transgender individual.' Nothing you can do about it except get booked on an assault charge. ;)

larry
05-21-2016, 03:46 PM
interesting thread. Any of you heard of sissysocial.net ?

jenni_xx
05-21-2016, 03:47 PM
Really poor argument IMO.

Trust you to jump in feet first and miss the point.

LilSissyStevie
05-21-2016, 03:55 PM
Being a sissy ain't for wimps!

Fiona123
05-21-2016, 04:07 PM
From Wikipedia: "Sissy (derived from sister; also sissy baby, sissy boy, sissy man, sissy pants, etc.) is a pejorative term for a boy or man who does not conform to "standard male" gender stereotypes."

It's the pejorative aspect that makes the word a problem. I most definitely do not conform to "standard male" gender stereotypes." I do think of myself as a sissy for me it's a term of endearment. It describes me sexually and as a crossdresser.

I hope I don't offend, I really don't mean to. 🌺

Stephanie47
05-21-2016, 05:58 PM
Being a sissy ain't for wimps!

OK, "LilSissyStevie" you're the first with 'Sissy" to chime into the thread. Any insight you wish to share.

I am a child of the 1950's and 1960's and 'sissy' was a derogatory term. It was used in a sexual way to indicate the person was not manly.

I well aware the term "sissy" may be used as a term of endearment. A lot of communication is not just verbal. There is voice inflection, There is facial expression. If a cross-dresser is wearing a French Maid outfit and his/her wife pats her/him on the butt and calls her/him "my little sissy," that is a world of difference than school yard boys berating another boy calling him a "sissy' with intent to demean him in front of others.

Tracii G
05-21-2016, 06:05 PM
Stephanie47 I'm aware some people are into self degradation too and want to be made fun of. I don't get it but if someone is into that I'm OK with it.
I hate when somebody assumes I am a "sissy".

docrobbysherry
05-21-2016, 06:09 PM
Altho I would never be presumptuous enuff to assume I knew what Lorileah means, the "sissy" connotation is used by some fetish dressers. It seems to go along with the common, "forced fem", fetish. And, with those that get a thrill dressing up as little girls or even babies.

Just to anticipate any flack, none of those do anything for me. Looking like an adult woman is all that blows my hair back.:devil:

donnalee
05-21-2016, 06:47 PM
Personally, I find the term offensive, more from the connotation than the denotation, always a problem with semantics. It just grates on me and I don't really understand why people would want to use it to describe themselves. That being said, in no way would I deny anyone the right to do so.

I Am Paula
05-21-2016, 07:02 PM
I was made to understand it is a voluntary subset of crossdressing, in which one acts very submissive. I have also seen sissy clothing advertised, and it appears like a pre-pubescent fantasy.

Tracii G
05-21-2016, 09:11 PM
We all get the fetish thing about sissy clothing and submissive behavior.
My question is how does everyone else like being lumped in with the term sissy just because you dress?

Robin414
05-21-2016, 09:44 PM
I'm with Tracii on this one, I get the desire to be refered to as 'sissy' in some circles, that's cool! But MY interpretation of the word is 'afraid to get ones hands dirty, run and hide when confronted by negativity, etc'...I don't think that really describes me at all (and pretty sure it doesn't describe Tracii!), so much so if I were called sissy I'd probably laugh, like if you called me an airplane or a crocodile (OK, I can kinda rock the crocodile look 😉 )

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I've been watching the hard core survival show 'Naked and Afraid' lately and many of these people are ANYTHING but 'sissy' by my definition and if they were called that, they'd probably fall over laughing as well.

Tracii G
05-21-2016, 09:53 PM
Great croc make up Robin.LOL

Alexa CD
05-21-2016, 10:06 PM
Ok first of all it is definitely not another away to describe a trans woman. But along with it being a name or description that is used by some it can also be a derogatory term. Personally I don't find it offensive, but it can be offensive. Calling a trans woman or anyone else a sissy is basically an insult unless that person either doesn't mind or likes the name. I'm not even sure I really group crossdressers and sissies in as the same thing, although there can obviously be overlap. I think it really depends on how the word is used, I don't get offended easily at all, so for me it would either depend on who said it, what context and how they said it. If I was with a guy and he just offhandedly called me a sissy I wouldn't care, I might even like it a little.

suit
05-21-2016, 10:34 PM
in the 50's 60's sissys did not want to kill ducklings children and women for almost any reason. but if truly vial and a deadly enemy would point in there direction for a male , the low brow unfeeling killing machine the millatery industrial machine pumped out , shown on the nightly news killing commies like squishing cheeze dumplings . who controls the media controls you

Tracii G
05-22-2016, 12:40 AM
Not sure where your head is suit but lets try to stay on topic OK.

AllisonS
05-22-2016, 01:26 AM
Why is it derogatory? Because, many males view women as weak and inferior. That's the worst insult they can hurl, saying you are "like a woman". But, I like women.

jacques
05-22-2016, 04:46 AM
There is a big difference between using the word ourselves and being called a "Sissy" by others - in the same way as other "communities" have reclaimed the use of derogatory names they have been called in the past that have become taboo for the rest of us.
I just replied to a different thread about "how girly are you?" - within this Group it is not an insult.
luv J

Martha G
05-22-2016, 04:51 AM
To me it is a terrible word.

I always thought that it meant an effeminate boy or man.

But when dressed I am a mature woman called Martha. I look, dress and act like a woman..

I am not an effeminate man in a dress - I am a real woman called Martha.

It's a very terrible word.

Mykaa
05-22-2016, 07:41 AM
Sissy what a term, ok I'll throw in my 2 cents, am I a Sissy? I dont think I am. I grew up in a house where my Mother never quit, she worked hard, always tried and still does, My Dad, threw in the towel repeatedly, so you tell me who is more important to me? I see women as strong, beautiful creatures with a lot of advantages in this world, is it envy? Maybe it is. Just like the old saying, imitation is the most sincere form of flattery, I got scoffed at by the ex when I said that.

Sissy by definition - Merriam Webster a boy who is weak or who likes things that girls usually like

: a person who is weak and fearful, an effeminate man or boy; also : a timid or cowardly person

sissy adjective

Ok maybe I am at least partly, lol I do like things girls like, am I weak, definitely NO, what do I fear? losing my friends or my job because of this, other than that, I feel confident in saying Im not afraid anymore. Effeminate, maybe in appearance at times, wearing the clothes, I am happy, Depending on what I wear is relative to the feeling I get, when I go out, I feel good, I feel "man pretty" I do get looked at, I like it, do I feel humiliated? Nope. If a girl can say "tell him Im single and ready to mingle" how bad do I look? Id say I look pretty good,:). I feel confident also, just to elaborate on my look, girl jeans, plain pocket, button down shirts, like french cuff,Sometimes I mix with a nice mens T shirt. I have a nice Guess Leather jacket I wear if its cool enough, usually wear womens belt of some type or another, ladies puma shoes or I have Guess western boots I wear out. Am I weak? maybe not as strong as some but I wont take a butt kicking just doing nothing, back me in a corner and yes your going to have a fight on your hands.
So for the record, If Im a sissy is it a bad term? maybe not so much, it implies weakness I think anyone here would argue whether their weak or not. BTW I also have a closet full of Dresses and other nice womens clothes, a drawer full of lingerie and today I can say Im happy being me!

Fiona123
05-22-2016, 08:02 AM
Mykaa's post makes sense to me. I think of myself as weak sissy in the sense that I most definitely do not want to be a macho male type. 🌺

Alexa CD
05-22-2016, 09:18 AM
Fiona is quite right. Going by Mykaa's post I'm practically the definition of a sissy. I'm not really afraid to admit it, but I'm not going to just take on the label either.

A boy who is physically weak and likes things that girls usually like? Check. An effeminate male? Check. Timid? In a more masculine situation I'd say so, although mentally I'm actually quite a capable mind in terms of personality atleast. I'd definitely say I'm at the very least partly a sissy as described in that comment. It's just who I am right now, I'm not in love with the negative connotations of the word sure but I'm not going to deny who I am. I like who I am, and I'm not going to change myself because of a name or the thoughts of other people.

Jenniferathome
05-22-2016, 09:48 AM
Not sure where your head is suit but lets try to stay on topic OK.

I couldn't even get past the sentence fragments, murderous grammar and non sequiturs.

As as for the topic, "sissy" is clearly a pejorative term and can't be debated. It simply has a meaning in the english language. Those that use it here seem to embrace the negative aspects of it: humiliation, forced feminization, etc. whatever floats your boat, I guess

IamWren
05-22-2016, 10:27 AM
But MY interpretation of the word is 'afraid to get ones hands dirty, run and hide when confronted by negativity, etc'...I don't think that really describes me at all (and pretty sure it doesn't describe Tracii!), so much so if I were called sissy I'd probably laugh.

I don't like the word... in fact, I hate it. And although the dictionary definition of the word may aptly describe many of the MtF CD members of this forum there is a very negative connotation to the word "sissy" that does not apply to me nor, I'm sure, to others like Robin, Tracii and Jennifer.

I like feeling feminine. Using makeup, female clothing, etc helps me feel feminine. I am very short and compared to other males I am probably weaker than a large majority of them. By definition the word sissy might apply to me. But the connotation does not apply at all. Like most men AND women with any sense of self worth and self esteem, I don't shy away from hard work or "getting my hands dirty" so to say. I am not submissive nor is Sayyidah. I get in the mix with my wife cleaning the kitchen, doing laundry and raising our kids, which until relatively recently was considered a gender role reserved for females.

I don't buy into the notion that if a community has co-opted the word as a way to embrace it, the word is somehow positive. The "N" word is still a disgusting word no matter who is saying it. I think the same thing of "sissy".

But hey... if that's your thing, go on with ya bad self. I'm just not going to approve or like it.

Amanda M
05-22-2016, 11:35 AM
Well, for me, the term "Sissy"has overtones of being submissive, subjecting oneself to the whims of a woman, being sub-dominant. And if that is what you like, how you see yourself - then have fun. What I detest i the term being bandied about in a purely perjorative sense.

mechamoose
05-22-2016, 11:59 AM
I'm not gonna be insulted by being called a sissy.

My wife and boyfriend would probably high-five you. I *am* a 'sissy', whatever that means. (*He* might have his own kinky reasons, my girl just wants ME.)

To Me, anyway, that means being an XY and actively wanting to exhibit as an XX.

I don't have the slightest hope of even LOOKING like an XX, but that is what I feel like. I am indisputably, genetically XY, I'm 6'2", 280, built like a wedge.. i"m HUGE. But that isn't how I FEEL.

I have better fashion sense, better color sense, better *cute* sense.

I guess the 'trucknutz' on my Prius should be pink and sequined? Maybe a bow?

- MM

StarrOfDelite
05-22-2016, 12:02 PM
I would definitely consider it to be an insult to be called a "Sissy." Its current usage is prevalent as a porn industry term used to describe a Gay man who dresses up in women's clothes and is sexually promiscuous with dominant males, or dominatrix females. It seems to be often used in conjunction with "Black on White" sites, Cuckold sites, and Femdom sites.

Like many other words, it has morphed from the meaning it had in the 1950's and 1960's when it merely meant a man who was mild-mannered, tried to avoid contact sports, didn't like off-color jokes, and maybe wore a pink shirt to work occasionally. I recall that my uncle, who was an all-state football player and track star, and WW II combat veteran, once used the term to say that he knew Mr. X, a proment local attorney when he was in high school, and that he was a bit of a "Silk pants sissy" then. When I asked him what he meant by that term, he told me that, " A Sissy is a guy who was circumcised with pinking shears." Sort of funny in a crude locker room sort of way, but it did not connote homosexuality or even effeminacy, merely that the person so described was not a "Manly Man."

Tracii G
05-22-2016, 01:56 PM
I appreciate every ones comments and outlook on the subject.

Nikkilovesdresses
05-22-2016, 02:12 PM
Members feel safe here in a way they can't feel safe anywhere else...which is entirely the point of the site. We can call ourselves things we would never call ourselves in the big bad world.

Being raised male means, for 99.9% of us, being the opposite of a sissy. No wonder some choose to use the word in their usernames.

reinasblack
05-22-2016, 03:55 PM
i remembered it meant you where weak,feminine and not strong ,manly and decisive.

Arnold swarzanegger called someone a "girlyman'. this shows it can be a put down term in some social cliques. it others it might be desired.

Ressie
05-22-2016, 06:18 PM
Starrofdelite defined the current slang very well in post 36. I've come across sissies on other sites that say they're proud to be a sissies. It doesn't make sense to me to be proud of being promiscuous and submissive (etc.), but if that's what they want out of life it's their choice.

Tracii G
05-22-2016, 06:24 PM
The meaning of a word doesn't change once it has a deffinition.
If I were new to a site and some guy asks me to be his "sissy bitch"or something like that yes I will be offended.
I am not promiscuous and don't appreciate being talked down to like I am worthless.

Sissy_Michelle
05-22-2016, 07:26 PM
Humm What an interesting thread... I have seen this brought up here before. I guess we all have our reasons why...

@--}----
Michelle

Rhonda Jean
05-22-2016, 08:58 PM
I don't think any of the usual derogatory terms typically applied to us offend me. I think it's rude and in poor taste for anybody to call a person anything when it's intended to offend or degrade. But, I can go down this list of the common insulting terms and see that, in my case, their probably not far off. Sissy, pussy, gay, fag, homo, fairy... going to have to go further than that to really offend me. I've gotten to the point to where I quietly have a "glad you noticed" attitude toward this one. I don't like that someone would throw that out there, because the obvious thought behind it is that I'm a piece of human debris, but, consider the source. Sticks and stones, ya know.

AllieSF
05-23-2016, 01:06 AM
The meaning of a word doesn't change once it has a deffinition.
If I were new to a site and some guy asks me to be his "sissy bitch"or something like that yes I will be offended.
I am not promiscuous and don't appreciate being talked down to like I am worthless.

I am not a fan of the word either, but do respect the use of the word when defining a lifestyle. That being said, I have to disagree with you about meanings of words not changing. Well actually, the established meanings may not change, but new meanings get added all the time, meaning to me that, first, words can have multiple meanings, and new meanings can get added to the original ones as our language usage changes over time. Look at the words "shit" ". They have their original meanings plus about a thousand other ones depending on how used, tone of voice and new fads, whether they last or not. Those two words can be used to describe something, used derogatorily, humorously, and even as slang terms of endearment. They can be used as nouns, adjectives or verbs!

Alexa CD
05-23-2016, 01:26 AM
Allie you're absolutely right.

rachael.davis
05-23-2016, 07:45 AM
I've worked too long, too hard, and lost too much of my life to self loathing in good part due to words like sissy, so no I don't and will not accept it being used on me. If you're into a scene where you enjoy the word, love little Alice in Wonderland dresses, and get enjoyment from verbal abuse based on being some sort of "pecious little sissy boy" that's cool, live your life, don't expect me to embrace what you're into.

I love the Daniel Day Lewis "Last of the Mohecans" this is from memory but "Do not try to understand them, and do not try to make them understand you, for they are a people apart, and their ways make no sense" - Hawkeye commeting on the being raised by Lenai Lenape people rather that whites. Pretty good advise for dealing with others as near as I can tell.

bomba
05-23-2016, 11:05 AM
i like being called a sissy....it makes me feel both feminen and submissive , which is what i am.......in fact i believe that a good definintion of sissy would be a "feminen submissive male"

mechamoose
05-23-2016, 12:24 PM
Perhaps this is a sexual question?

I'm too lost in the weeds to get this alphabet soup out of my hair.

I REALLY like doing my thing for my partner, but that is not what I think you were asking.

Once again, I'm seeing a big red line between LGB and T. They kind of have nothing to do with each other.

Cripes, why did it take so long for us to figure that out??

Tracii G
05-23-2016, 12:28 PM
I am talking about one word here Allie sissy.
Vulgar slang is very different so not really the same thing.
I will say that using the F word in the context of placing "as ****" at the end of a sentence has got the be the dumbest thing I have ever heard.
Its like the person that says it has no idea of the meaning of the word.

Ressie
05-23-2016, 03:35 PM
Language is constantly changing. New words are coined every year and slang changes or adds meanings too. That's why I dislike slang. The slang we used 40 years ago now sounds very dated and "uncool".

And I would think that kids aren't using the word sissy in it's older definition now days. Even Wuss is now an old term.

Mayo
05-23-2016, 04:19 PM
the "sissy" connotation is used by some fetish dressers. It seems to go along with the common, "forced fem", fetish.

^ This. When I see the word 'sissy' in someone's name (or on a list of interests) on a site that caters to CDs, I automatically assume it's a reference to the submissive/feminized male cross-dresser. And leaving aside any discussion of what that says about societal attitudes toward non-masculine men, femininity in general, and/or women....


It's like the "I can say because I own it" mind set. Like you get special privileges just because you are in a subset. To me it falls with any other word that has been used for years to marginalize people. Every minority has had these words, and they were used to make the person less than whole or less than equal.
[...]
Now I do understand that a certain number of people role play in that genre. I get that they like to be seen as sub (I belong to the BDSM world myself). But honestly, I find being called that offensive. Maybe if I was in that circle and presented in that manner it would be different
I'm of that mind set myself - if you identify as 'A', you can call yourself 'A' if you want to. It's an attempt to reclaim a derogatory term as an identity. But because it is a derogatory term, nobody who isn't 'A' should use it to describe someone. It's usually a minority within a particular group that does so - gay men refering to themselves as [edit](e.g. Dan Savage, to use a well-known example), or trans women as the T-slur - and I most certainly would not use those words myself.

Stephanie47
05-23-2016, 06:04 PM
Stephanie47 I'm aware some people are into self degradation too and want to be made fun of. I don't get it but if someone is into that I'm OK with it.
I hate when somebody assumes I am a "sissy".

OK, I did not feel I had to develop my thought process more than I had. If someone were to call me a sissy, it'd blow right over my head. I really haven't heard an adult call another adult who wears female clothing a sissy. The terms that do come to mind are "faggot and queer."

"I hate when somebody assumes I am a "sissy." What's your definition of "sissy?"

My definition of "sissy" may be different than your "definition." This is like many other experiences I've dealt with over my six decades. Before arguing, define your terms. Don't make assumptions. Define the term.

Tracii G
05-23-2016, 07:47 PM
I thought I did many times in this thread Stephanie and I'm not arguing with anybody.
It seems when I get curious and ask a question people seem to get pissed at me for it.
There are some that ask questions and talk about masturbating while dressed and that seems fine.I ask a question and all hell breaks loose
I guess I'll just shut up so forget I even asked the question.

Robin414
05-23-2016, 11:41 PM
Whoa people, we're all friends here right (that's WHY we're here isn't it), this is a great topic, let's keep it civil and respect the OP!

OMG, I've been possesed by the ghost of Katey888!?

Mylie Taylor
05-23-2016, 11:53 PM
Its used by doms and subs, but that is an agreed upon, controlled environment. Its definitely not something I'd call a stranger and not something I would want to be called if I didn't ask for it.

Charlessa
05-24-2016, 12:06 AM
I've always thought sissy was just for the crossdressers. but I don't know. I don't apply it to myself. only time is when posting a pic on social media I may use it as a hashtag

Lorileah
05-24-2016, 12:17 AM
The word "sissy" is submissive? Interesting...being in that world, I would never consider most subs as sissies. We tend to be just the opposite. We aren't weak for sure and pain tolerance is above average. The word "sissy" to me, in the culture, refers mostly to those who dress in Lolita style and are actually closer to "Littles". See how where you use it can make a big difference?

I reiterate, I dislike the idea that "we" can use the term but not the rest of the world. The whole idea of "we own it" confuses people who aren't in our circle. It is that way with minorities all over. Words used in a culture, when used by those outside the culture is usually mean and can lead to reactions you really don't want.

Mylie Taylor
05-24-2016, 12:32 AM
I should have been more specific since bdsm has more subgenress than heavy metal, but I was referring to what you pretty much described, the submissive Lolita kink. I see the word frequently used on Grindr and craigslist. I respect that it can be viewed negatively by some and positively by others. Either way it's certainly used in quite a few bedrooms.

GreyEyeZz
05-24-2016, 01:07 AM
I agree Lori. I also would never consider most submissive as "sissy" nor most "sissys" as submissive. A person Can be both but that might be an exception.

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Maybe, maybe not robin. I like the idea of keeping it civil.

Mayo
05-24-2016, 09:40 AM
I reiterate, I dislike the idea that "we" can use the term but not the rest of the world. The whole idea of "we own it" confuses people who aren't in our circle. It is that way with minorities all over. Words used in a culture, when used by those outside the culture is usually mean and can lead to reactions you really don't want.
Subcultures almost always have their own vocabularies that they use to convey concepts specific to that subculture, as code words, indicators of identity or membership, or whatever. Some of these may be unique words or, in the case of the current discussion, an attempt to reclaim derogatory words that have been used in the past to refer to them, as a way of taking power. To argue, in essence, that they can't do so because it's an offensive term to other people is to police their own use of language that they use to refer to themselves. Plus, it's ultimately futile unless you add these words to some legal lexicon of hate speech and imprison people for using them. People learn what words in a language are offensive as part of growing up in society and that you shouldn't use those words against other people, but I see no problem using them as self-identifiiers if you want to. It hopefully doesn't take an ignorant white dude more than a few uses of the N-word to a black person to learn that it's improper to do so, regardless of what he may have seen in rap videos.

Re. the word 'sissy' and CDs in general - I'd say that even within cross-dressers it's a subculture (referring to a specific fetish/interest) and so even most of 'us' don't qualify as entitled to use it.

Ressie
05-24-2016, 11:19 AM
The word "sissy" is submissive? Interesting...being in that world, I would never consider most subs as sissies. We tend to be just the opposite. We aren't weak for sure and pain tolerance is above average. The word "sissy" to me, in the culture, refers mostly to those who dress in Lolita style and are actually closer to "Littles". See how where you use it can make a big difference?

I've found that sissies are always submissive. If they're not submissive, they ain't sissies in today's word of sexual deviance. A search for sissy porn and sissy chat sites will make this clear. That certainly doesn't mean all subs are sissies.

StarrOfDelite
05-24-2016, 12:57 PM
I've found that sissies are always submissive. If they're not submissive, they ain't sissies in today's word of sexual deviance. A search for sissy porn and sissy chat sites will make this clear. That certainly doesn't mean all subs are sissies.


Yep! All it takes is one visit to tumblr and some basic search skills to quickly realize that there are six foot two, two hundred forty pound hairy males, with muscles bulging out of their leather motorcycle jackets, who are Subs.

It's like the syllogism, all trees are plants, but not all plants are trees.

mechamoose
05-24-2016, 02:24 PM
Mayo, this has NOTHING to with this thread. It has everything to do with language. Elegant, beautiful language.

I'm friend requesting you just for speech reasons.

AnnieMac
05-25-2016, 08:32 AM
I like the word sissy Like it much better than transvestite, or even cross dresser, sometimes. Maybe because I am a sissy - I like dresses and frilly girly stuff -explains it pretty well
I think. Sissy and proud of it :)

Tracii G
05-25-2016, 10:06 AM
Annie am I to assume you just dress at home in that kind of clothing?
If you dress and actually go out in public I'm pretty sure you don't go the Lolita route right?
So if you were out dressed and some guy calls you a sissy ass faggot or some other demeaning term how would react?
I know there is a subset of dressers that have the fetish for that stuff but they probably don't go out in public.
I don't dress as a fetish I do it because it makes me feel normal to how I am inside. I know that in itself sounds stupid but it is what it is.

Mayo
05-25-2016, 10:24 AM
So if you were out dressed and some guy calls you a sissy ass faggot or some other demeaning term how would react?
Context is everything. For someone who identifies as a 'sissy' in the bedroom, I'm sure it could be very arousing. When walking down the street that's likely to be a different thing entirely. Just because my partner might like to be called names during sex, it doesn't mean I'm going to use offensive language with every woman I see. 'Bimbofication' and race play use misogynistic and racist language and I don't want to be involved in them in any way because I find the terms used to be highly offensive, but if someone else gets off on that in private that's their business. Who are we to police what someone likes to be called as long as it doesn't infringe on anyone else's freedom or well-being? People just need to understand that you don't use derogatory language on someone unless they specifically ask for it, and even then context makes a difference. It's related to the broader issue of consent - just because I may have said yes once (or even a thousand times) doesn't mean that you can take it for granted that I'll say yes right now.

AnnieMac
05-26-2016, 02:12 PM
You assume wrong Traci G - I dress and enjoy normal everyday women's fashions. I don 't go in much for the crazier stuff. Although the Brolita thing might be fun to do once. My point
is I just don't find the word sissy offensive, nor do I find it describes my particular penchant for wearing certain clothing items. Faggot is another matter, that is an offensive word, full of
Making America Hate Again.

Tracii G
05-26-2016, 05:45 PM
I guess we can agree to disagree Annie sissy and faggot are both offensive to me no matter the context.
Please no political comments no matter how sideways they may be.

Fiona123
05-26-2016, 08:02 PM
To clarify an earlier post. I would never use the fa**** word under any circumstances. I only use sissy to describe myself, never in the pejorative sense.🌺