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deebra
07-11-2016, 09:50 AM
If you could be 18 again in 2016, not married, not in love, no kids or real commitments, mediocre job that paid for food, your own apartment, car and know what you do now; would you pursue crossdressing further, even to try it for a year or so? Such as at 18 you are of legal age and you could start hormone therapy (at this young age just out of puberty your body would respond and get better results than if you started at 50; testosterone blockers, estrogen enhancers to start growing breasts, hips, etc. to start changing your male body to a female body). Grow your hair long, earrings, dress in girl clothes as much as you wanted and even live as a woman. 99% say if you are born a CD it's there for life. If YES to the question wouldn't this allow you to find out how male or female you wanted to be and then chart your own future. Not like some on this forum that because of commitments to their family/job or a controlling wife prevent you from being the more feminine and happier person than you desire to be.
Dana44
07-11-2016, 09:57 AM
If I was 18 and knew what I know now. Yep I would have way more fun being happier and even more successful. I still would be my gender fluid soul and wow so many girls and even boys, oh yeah i would be far different than I am now.
Nikki.
07-11-2016, 10:12 AM
18 in 2016 vs 18 in the late 80's, and knowing what I know now? Yes.
Edit: Yes on doing things differently, no on hrt, surgery etc.
OCCarly
07-11-2016, 11:34 AM
I already had long hair at 18, (1980) and in this culture I definitely would again. And I would be on hormones in a heartbeat. I stood around 5 foot 6 when I was 18, and my shoulders had not yet developed. My nose also still had a bit of a concave curve to it. I would have made a very cute girl.
But, at 53, the hormones still have had some wonderful surprises for me.
Lily Catherine
07-11-2016, 12:19 PM
I feel it's inherently flawed to assume that transitioning solves everything and magically kills off every single issue. Ditto for hormones, as much as I've given some thought to them.
If I could reset the last three years and be eighteen again with all my hindsights, I'd still be in a state of identity turbulence, trying to pinpoint exactly where I am on the spectrum - less than a TS, more than a CD. I'd be conscripted for a couple of years as would any other Singaporean genetic male, and consequently still have one heeled foot in the closet. I would avoid jumping into transition unless I was absolutely 100% sure that there wasn't any other viable option.
As the conditions allow me to live on my own property (extremely uncommon for someone this age in Singapore), I'd certainly have much more breathing space to explore this side of me. I'd also possess silicone forms and a few wigs at this point. Naturally, growing out my hair during my uniformed service would be out of the question.
I would also avoid wearing overly short skirts too often, like I did when I first started taking photos of myself. Ironically, I would probably wear Daisy Dukes quite frequently. I would also take much greater care of my face (and look annoyingly younger, which is bad enough) and skin than I did. Not that my natural face shape would be any different.
I would definitely still face the trouble of coming out or getting outed by family members, although I hope to have established a firmer stand than I have right now. It isn't for me to say if I will meet them as Lilian at all. I would still face the inevitable anxiety and effects of them denying her, or worse, denying all of me in the most extreme case (even in reality I haven't reached that state, thank God.)
It's not for me to guess if I'd be happier; I try to let my happiness remain unshaken by any external factors. I am hardly succeeding. More satisfied, more at ease perhaps. I probably mightn't have smoked (although this is for health reasons), and might have drank less as well. Admittedly, I'd also be less distracted and hopefully less conflicted in the ideal situation. Less frustrated, absolutely not. Less bitter, unlikely.
Most of my issues are sadly religious - clearly off-topic here - and I'd still be working my way through it whether it be now or three (or even seven) years ago.
As a random side note, my 18-year-old self in this alternate present might also have maintained a fairly shameless social media presence, albeit thankfully devoid of duck faces. She might also club on a less-than-regular basis, but avoid being known by her other name. She would, as I do, worry about scholarships and university and studies. No word on whether she still fantasises emptily over being a race queen / car model.
Kate Simmons
07-11-2016, 12:38 PM
I'd probably be who I am now, only more so. :battingeyelashes::)
Teresa
07-11-2016, 12:39 PM
Deebra,
What a question !
Between that age and a couple more years after I'd managed to find two GFs who didn't mind my CDing and even got to the point of being engaged to them. My hair was long but in those days CDing was a shared sexual high. At that point gender wasn't in question and my sexuality was never doubted.
The sexual content has never left me but the gender question has become more of an issue. Setting aside the sexual content I enjoy my CDing and prefer to look femme, I now understand the reasons. I didn't begin to question the possibility of being part female until I came out in my forties and I felt there was another side to me, the gut feeling wasn't the sexual pull, it was something else.
I'm not sure how different my life would have been if I could go back and live it with the information I have now. Perhaps I wouldn't have married the same person but then I wouldn't have the great kids I have now.
It's great as humans we can ask these questions and consider the possibilities but one thing we haven't worked out yet is how to turn the clock back !
xNicolex
07-11-2016, 01:52 PM
I was 18 in 2007 and if I could go back in time and tell myself everything I know now, well I'd change alot :heehee: as for my dressing I'd start dressing at 18 would have been great to have those years to experiment with my look :)
Jenny22
07-11-2016, 02:19 PM
Deebra, with the initial conditions you expressed, at 18, I'd move to San Francisco and get a job with the city so their health insurance would pay for my HRT, SRS and possibly any FFS that might be needed. I'd do it in a heart beat!
Lorileah
07-11-2016, 02:32 PM
So let me get this straight, you're a CD? And you want hormones? and you're 18. Something there doesn't add up.
If you were a TS and 18 and wanted all that then YES. CDs changing body style scares me when they say they want to be guys sometimes
Tracii G
07-11-2016, 02:39 PM
This right here ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
deebra
07-11-2016, 03:19 PM
Lorileah,
You start out as a CD and love crossdressing, you would like to take it a little further and see where it goes and if this is for you. Starting hormone replacement therapy can allow you to start changing your body from male to female and spending more time dressed as a female and figuring out as you become more of a woman if this is what you want, the HRT can simply be stopped any time and your body will loose all the female attributes and go back to male. Same thing if you have breast implants, they can be removed and your male chest restored. If I met all the conditions in my post I would love to take the journey, then you know if you will be happier as a man or woman.
RADER
07-11-2016, 05:22 PM
When I was 18,I was just out of high school; And working as an apprentice Carpenter
Making good money. Just think, the Stock Market was well below the 1800 mark, so
knowing what I know now, I would have invested heavy into the market.
NicoleScott
07-11-2016, 06:03 PM
Sorry Deebra, but it's a crazy plan to start HRT because you love CDing so much and that you can undo it all if you change your mind. Occasionally we see a post where a CDer [thinks he] wants HRT for a more feminine body (presumably so the clothes look better - why else if you're truly CD?). I would think more of a solid commitment would be needed.
For me, a CDer, a private place and time to dress up would have been great. It's always been a part-time activity that I want to stay that way, still needing all those guy things I enjoy (sports, hunting, fishing, camping, etc.....I never regretted all that time wasted hanging out with the guys playing Risk)
Lana Mae
07-11-2016, 07:03 PM
At 18, I was in the air force. Not a good place to crossdress. Would be good that I could get into crossdressing earlier in life but as was stated that means my two kids would not exist! I would not have met or married my wonderful wife who did not want me crossdressing. All the male friends I had would be a different relationship. Have no desire to turn into a women. Only want to glance at my feminine side for now and go from there! No thanks ,I am fine with my life and situation concerning crossdressing! Hoping yours turns out fine for you! Hugs Lana Mae
TrishaLake
07-11-2016, 08:00 PM
At 18 , I was in year one of college, unhappy, no girl, crap job and trying to figure out who I am. If I had any knowledge about this, I would have totally pursued this stronger although I doubt I would ever try to transition, its just not for me. I would enjoy dressing, learn more about makeup and wear all kinds of great clothes and hit the clubs. I also would have been much happier than confused me was...
Emma or Darren
07-12-2016, 06:57 AM
The 18yr old me had zero self confidence/esteem forget CDing in the closet I think I lived there so knowing what I know now my life would probably of been better who knows where the dressing would lead definitely would be able to spend more time and money on it.
Emma xx
CarlaWestin
07-12-2016, 07:08 AM
At 18 I had beautiful hair down to the middle of my back. And a smooth baby face palette for makeup.
In the situation as described, I would probably start HRT and prefer a sexy buxom tomboy existence.
deebra
07-12-2016, 08:26 AM
I've read all the above threads and fully understand and respect we all have different roads we want to travel so let me say a little more about what I envision. Imagine the freedom and pleasure to be able to wake up in your own apartment and dress female with no criticism from anyone, the freedom to go anywhere. To wear the many styles of clothing, shoes, makeup, hair that we love that would transform you into the woman you want to be. Wouldn't this just be so cool and rewarding to live as a woman and really see what it's like? Like really getting into it for a year or so. No commitments and the freedom to explore being another person/gender. We all love the clothes and the female presentation, at this time of your life knowing that the desire to crossdress will be in your mind everyday for the rest of your life, wouldn't it be worth trying?
pamela7
07-12-2016, 08:52 AM
my butt has gone back up to size 18 skirts, definitely would prefer to be back at 16 instead :-)
Julogden
07-12-2016, 09:02 AM
I was 18 in the late 1960's. It was a very different world from what it is now. If I was 18 now and knew what I know about myself now, my life would turn out massively differently, I'm sure. Although I've never pursued transition, for various reasons, it isn't from the lack of wanting to. My issues have always been due to gender identity, not dressing for a thrill, so I'd be transitioning if I was 18 now.
But if you're a CD, then why would you go on hormones and try to transition? If those are things that you want to do, then I'd say that you're not a CD. ;)
Tina_gm
07-12-2016, 10:06 AM
For me, it would be to not have been at war with myself. I don't know if I would be doing any perma changes like HRT etc etc. but I would be open to being gender variant to anyone who wished to know, or anyone I was close to. Basically I would just be open about it. Probably live in a place that was at least somewhat accepting.
Amy Fakley
07-12-2016, 10:20 AM
What's that cliche ... "we get too soon old and too late smart"
It's funny 'cause it's true :-/
If I could be 18 again ... I'd be 18 again. I'd be back in the deepest denial, and depression and I'd probably be just as much determined to rid myself of my troublesome "problem" as I was the first time at that age. But maybe not ... today's world is unrecognizable from 1992. Even 10 years later, it would have been night and day in terms of information I had access to. In 92, I was still literally looking up tiny shreds of info about trans stuff in the card catalog of my local library (and finding practically nothing).
If I could know then what I know now ... lol.
But I can't ...
Also hormones are a big deal in terms of health risk and permanent side effects. They aren't a good way to "test the waters" as the op described.
Stephanie47
07-12-2016, 10:32 AM
There is a world of difference in the availability of knowledge concerning the spectrum of sexuality available in the 1960's and now. Visually, back in the 1960's at age 18 I would have appear as an attractive tall blond. There still would have been the thought my tallness would have attracted too many inquiring eyes toward me. With hindsight I would not have thought of myself with the negativity I felt in the 1960's. I do ascribe to the belief there is some degree of innate femininity in my DNA which has me swing at times into the world of Stephanie, but, I have always enjoyed my maleness. I guess I would just be more comfortable with being Stephanie for whatever reason or motivation she decides to assert herself. I have no desire to become a woman, because, then there would also be the desire or pull once a woman to emulate a man.
Rhian
07-12-2016, 10:37 AM
I think people over estimate how liberal the younger generation are. Even in academic circles at the most prestigious universities LAD culture is still subscribed to by a large proportion of the students. While I have no doubt that someone who is trans would be treated with respect and dignity I think someone experimenting would be the object of ridicule. It's easy to say you would be free to experiment when in reality you still have to meet the peer group expectations of new and old friends.
Adriana Moretti
07-12-2016, 02:35 PM
At 18 , I was still trying to figure this out, and figure myself out.
One thing I did know was that this was a part of me.
Was I A Crossdresser ? Was I Transgender ?
Back then I had no idea.
What I did know was that this was who I was.
So I decided that getting married wasnt an option for me
Since every girl I dated who found out about my femme side left.
I decided marriage wasnt my path..
Neither was kids for that matter.
I was going to be different.
A better word would be unique.
So today I have no kids, no love, no real commitments...
but I am happy.
I have a mediocre job, but it barely pays for food, and I live with family.
I followed my heart...which is great.
Till I look at my bank account.
The final piece of my puzzle is bringing it all together...
being financially stable ...AND single..
would I transform or get surgery ?
I am trying to put together the money for lazer..
Thats about all I could afford right now anyway.
I'd be happy with that.
I am happy no matter what though
I wouldnt take back anything.
I would only wish to tell myself to look out more for your finacial future.
Back then I was trying to still figure me out instead of my future.
I hope some of you younger gals can put those pieces together better than I did
SANDRA MICHELLE
07-12-2016, 03:51 PM
Sure, if I were 18 again and in this time with greater acceptance and with no attachments.... I would dress full time as a girl and would definitely start hormone treatments to transition. Heck I would do it now if I had no attachments.
Nikki.
07-12-2016, 05:19 PM
At 18 , I was still trying to figure this out, and figure myself out.
One thing I did know was that this was a part of me.
Was I A Crossdresser ? Was I Transgender ?
Back then I had no idea.
What I did know was that this was who I was.
So I decided that getting married wasnt an option for me
Since every girl I dated who found out about my femme side left.
I decided marriage wasnt my path..
Neither was kids for that matter.
I was going to be different.
A better word would be unique.
So today I have no kids, no love, no real commitments...
but I am happy.
I have a mediocre job, but it barely pays for food, and I live with family.
I followed my heart...which is great.
Till I look at my bank account.
The final piece of my puzzle is bringing it all together...
being financially stable ...AND single..
would I transform or get surgery ?
I am trying to put together the money for lazer..
Thats about all I could afford right now anyway.
I'd be happy with that.
I am happy no matter what though
I wouldnt take back anything.
I would only wish to tell myself to look out more for your finacial future.
Back then I was trying to still figure me out instead of my future.
I hope some of you younger gals can put those pieces together better than I did
In my early 20's when I thought about transition, the inability in my mind to have a successful career was one of the big fears. I still don't think it was unfounded for the world of 25 years ago.
kymmieLorain
07-12-2016, 05:30 PM
It would be a long hard choice. I definitely would dress more and go out dressed. Going back to 18. But I think I MAY have transitioned.
Kymmie
Vickie_CDTV
07-12-2016, 05:42 PM
I actually was dressing and going out occasionally when I was young (well, 19 instead of 18 but whatever), and I didn't do any of those things. Why? I am an occasional dresser. I do it for fun and pleasure, doing it fulltime was never in the cards for me, even when I was young.
As for being married, well, I was never married for the same reason I was never an astronaut. I never had an opportunity to be, whether I wanted it or not.
phylis anne
07-12-2016, 08:49 PM
hmmmmmmmm ,well if i was 18 again and knew then what I know now----- I would have stayed a civillian , ran right over to thailand and had the deed done and then hung out in a hot bikinion a so cal beach when i was that age I did have a girly figure and somewhat girly looks but now-------- ahh well
hugs phylis anne
GenieGirl
07-12-2016, 10:26 PM
At 18 I was 5'8 and 128 lbs and to that I would say yes I would have transitioned then. I began HRT at 27 (8 months ago) Only thing I lost so far is a gf of 2 years so I think that is not that hefty of a price to pay considering what most trans people lose people wise in the process. I am much happier since starting HRT and have found a new gf that I couldn't be happier with. She does see and treat me like any other female she has ever dated. Interesting note, she is the same height and weight I was at 18 :).
Nikki.
07-12-2016, 11:41 PM
I get it, cause I was right there with you looking through the card catalog at my JC at 18, but I think her point was that you're armed with the knowledge you have today. Which would drive me to make different decisions ;)
What's that cliche ... "we get too soon old and too late smart"
It's funny 'cause it's true :-/
If I could be 18 again ... I'd be 18 again. I'd be back in the deepest denial, and depression and I'd probably be just as much determined to rid myself of my troublesome "problem" as I was the first time at that age. But maybe not ... today's world is unrecognizable from 1992. Even 10 years later, it would have been night and day in terms of information I had access to. In 92, I was still literally looking up tiny shreds of info about trans stuff in the card catalog of my local library (and finding practically nothing).
If I could know then what I know now ... lol.
But I can't ...
Also hormones are a big deal in terms of health risk and permanent side effects. They aren't a good way to "test the waters" as the op described.
Ressie
07-13-2016, 07:57 AM
Another fantasy thread! I would probably crossdress more but I wouldn't transition. Is it really possible to grow hips?
I disagree with being born a CD and it's there for life. Crossdressing ebbs and flows throughout one's life. Some of us purge and quit for years before starting up again.
What holds CDs back from dressing more and coming out is in the mind IMO. I personally have fears regarding dressing all the time and coming out. If I were suddenly 18 that probably wouldn't instantly change.
Alexa CD
07-13-2016, 09:18 AM
If I could go back two years I would stop getting my hair cut, that's one thing for sure. I'm not sure if I would transition or not, I'm super curious about it but I still think I've made the right decision, so if I did it would just be to find out what if and live in an alternative timeline.
Nikki A.
07-13-2016, 09:47 AM
With 40+ years of hind sight. If I were 18 and know my life, I might consider transitioning.
Back then it had crossed my mind but society and things being what they were it was not really a consideration. At this point in time I have too much at stake. When I retire I'm not sure what I'll do, but I do know I'll be more open about my dressing. Maybe move where no one knows me and present as female on a mostly full-time basis.
Ceera
07-13-2016, 01:02 PM
Based on your conditions, I might well have started 'in the closet' CD activities sooner, but my biggest constraint as far as doing anything that might out me would still be there - the issue of my father not being at all likely to accept his son being anything other than straight/normal. Even if I was not living at home, I wouldn't have risked alienating him that way. Unlike a lot of people here, I don't have the strong gender dysphoria issues urging a transition. It's more, for me, a matter of being gender fluid and enjoying the expression of both masculine and feminine traits.
If my father was 'with it' and accepting of LGBTQ issues, in addition to your other proposed circumstances, I certainly would have explored my feminine urges a lot sooner, and might have come out as CD/trans and bi right away. How soon, if at all, I might have tried any body changes beyond long hair, pierced ears, and a shaved body, I don't know. It would depend a lot on who I met and interacted with while en-femme or when acting like a femmy, bisexual male, and how those interactions went.
CONSUELO
07-13-2016, 02:24 PM
This is the old question of "what would I have done then if I knew what I know now?" The problem is always that you were a different person back then for a lot of reasons including age, wisdom and your hormones and you lived in a very different society.
Knowing what I know now I would have chosen a different path but when I was 18 I did not feel the same way about cross dressing that I do now and so I would have been incapable of making the decisions that I would make now.
Yes, I cross dressed but not so fully when I was 18 and for whatever reason I had a very great interest in females. I didn't really understand my sexuality very well at that age and, like many others who are members here I thought that my desire to cross dress was something that would not last or at least would fade away after marriage.
Looking back I wish that I could have known myself more clearly and with more certainty. Given that I would have been able to make some sound decisions.
JamieG
07-13-2016, 04:16 PM
If I was 18, yet somehow as confident with my dressing as I am now (I was in deep denial at age 18), I would definitely dress more. I'd probably seek out TG meetups and such every week. I would have looked even more femme then than I do now (I was 40 pounds lighter and had a more girlish face), and probably would have enjoyed the attention I got, compared to being ignored as a geeky boy. Would I have gone on HRT and transitioned? It's hard to say. If I had gotten lots of positive feedback and found myself feeling more comfortable as I dressed more and more, perhaps that would have made me more confident that I could live my life as woman, and I might have investigated the option. That said, I do not regret the way things turned out. I have a wonderful wife, two incredible kids, a great job, and still get to indulge my femme periodically. Different choices at age 18 might have precluded the first three.
Confucius
07-13-2016, 06:03 PM
My life really turned out very well. I got a good wife and family, a good career, and I am happy although I do not crossdress as often as I would like. I really have no reason to complain. My biggest regrets are only that I passed on several opportunities when they presented themselves. At the time I was just so afraid to be discovered as a crossdresser, so I hid myself. Looking back, I could have had the support of my mom, and a female coworker. My high school presented several opportunities to crossdress and I passed them up. It would have been so much fun, and it might have changed my fear of being discovered.
irene9999
07-13-2016, 06:59 PM
I was 18 in the late 90s and at the time I didn't use to crossdress, I had tried on girl panties and things like that but hadn't fully dressed up. I was extremely skinny at the time (about 125lbs) so I would've probably been almost passable at the time so if I was 18 again I would certainly be dressing all the time!
marlacd
07-13-2016, 08:52 PM
Oh what a question. At age 18, I hadn't had my first date yet. Nor was I fully developed. At the time, I was 6', but only 135 lbs. Not that I ever asked, but I know my family wouldn't have accepted me cavorting about dressed as a woman. But I'd try it out. Now if I could look into the future, and see how my love life would turn out, I'd have started to transition, no question about it.
Tommie.
07-13-2016, 10:23 PM
Yes... yes I would have... at 18 I was searching the libraries on transitioning but there was little info and i was afraid to ask anyone... but now there is freedom and knowledge, friends to share with, and more acceptance.
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