Does my neighbour have a point ?

[Teresa]

This may not be a completely hypothetical question, maybe someone has experienced this.

The scenario is I'm relaxing in the garden fully dressed, my wife doesn't wish to see me so she's out. My neighbour pops his head over the fence and says I'm glad I've caught you in that state because my wife has seen you and is disgusted to see it. If you don't mind can you please keep that kind of behaviour out of sight !

OK we all know how to educate people that think like that but does he have a point, my wife makes it clear she doesn't want to see me does he have the right to make the same point ?

OK this came into my head sitting dressed in the garden after a couple of beers !

[ReineD]

No, he doesn't have a point. What you do in your garden is your business. If his wife doesn't want to see you, she needn't look into your garden.

[Nigella]

I will second Reine's post 110%. What you do is not illegal.

[Teresa]

Please remember this is a hypothetical question, but I would be interested to know if anyone has had this situation or anything similar occur .

[Lorileah]

My neighbors don't like me but even on my deck which overlooks their backyard, I can do what I like. If any neighbor said that, hypothetically, I would tell them to take a leap

[Charlie Sissy]

I have had completely the opposite reaction from my neighbours they have said that it is my life and as long as I am content they have no problems how I present , (I am always decent although I have been out sunbathing in a bikini , but will have a robe or loose blouse to cover up if needed.

When I was first discovered by my neighbour I was worried how things would work out and kept asking if it was a problem for them and was prepared to accommodate them in not being so public , but luckily for me they would have none of it

[Teresa]

Charlie,
I'd like to think all neighbours would react like that, the question was does he have a basis to complain.

I guess the follow up questions would be what you say to him ? Lorileah has one way of dealing with it.
If I had separated from my wife and moved away I would have gone directly to any neighbours and introduced myself and then informed them that they may see me dressed differently and hope it wouldn't offend them, I've found the direct approach deflates any situation before it can take off .

[Kate Simmons]

Three possible answers from myself: And.....?, Your point? and So what? :)

[Lorileah]

Teresa, I did that for the only neighbor who mattered (now he won't talk to me but she still does). My neighbors on either side avoid me, the people across the street are anbivilant. But I am alone so it did not effect a spouse

[Meghan4now]

Well, they would have a point if it were considered lewd and lascivious behavior as defined in a court of law, but then it becomes a legal matter. Which is why there is supposed to be law and order and due process. Instead of lynching mobs. They can call the cops if they want.

[JamieG]

Your neighbor has the right to ask and you have the right to refuse. If your goal is to get along with your neighbors, then it is best to talk to them and try to find compromises that keep things from getting out of hand. In your hypothetical, the neighbor came to you and asked, as opposed to involving a HA or the police. That was good. However, saying that CDing is disgusting would be an impolitic way for him to approach the issue, and I would understand if you would be offended should he bring it up this way. I would probably say, "Well, I'm doing nothing wrong, but I am sorry that my choice of attire is causing your wife so much grief. Maybe we can find a compromise?" Perhaps a privacy screen to block sight of you from their yard, or maybe a schedule so that you will be out at different times. If you could care less about your neighbors, then a simple "Then tell her to stop looking in the direction of my yard" will do.

[Ms.Julie]

I don't think that it's as simple as the fact that what you're doing is not lewd or illegal. You have to consider what kind of relationship you want with your neighbors. Feuding with your neighbors is not a lot of fun. In the past, I've been in fist fights with neighbors(not over what I'm wearing). Upsetting the people next door can cause something as minor as feeling very uncomfortable every time you come-and-go all the way to physical violence--depending on how strongly they feel about what you're doing.

Don't get me wrong, I get it and would lean toward telling them where to go, but you do have to keep in mind that you are living next door to them.

[sometimes_miss]

My neighbour pops his head over the fence and says I'm glad I've caught you in that state because my wife has seen you and is disgusted to see it. If you don't mind can you please keep that kind of behaviour out of sight !
I'd start sunbathing naked at times she was expected to see. Lying face down, legs spread a bit. Just for effect. Or maybe trim my hedge like this one: 265052

[carrie001]

Did you ask why the hell his wife was poking her head over the fence in the first place?? If you're not breaking any laws, seems to me she's going to have to get use to it or stay on her side of the fence.

[Lana Mae]

Ok first it is none of their business how you dress on your own property!! I noted however, that most of those answering are from the USA!! I would be interested to see how people from different countries would react to this!!! Hugs Lana Mae

[Alice Torn]

Maybe ask them it the wife is playing Poke'mon Go!

[Dana does shopping]

Tell them to sod off ...

[CONSUELO]

I suppose you could counter by asking your neighbors to stop being "peeping toms". Folks do all sorts of things in their backyards and it is none of the neighbors business. I swim naked in my pool. My backyard is well screened but if they wanted to the neighbors could find a way of seeing my. If they do that is their problem.

Of course the modern version of this problem is what happens when the neighbor's camera drone circles overhead.

Bottom line-- Teresa, get out there and do as you want!

[Stephanie47]

The man does have a point. The point? His wife should move out of the neighborhood. Maybe North Carolina would be more to her comfort.

[Karen RHT]

No...the hypothetical neighbours don't have a valid basis to complain Teresa. It's likely however these hypothetical neighbours believe they hold the moral high ground, are "offended" by what she/they saw, and want the crossdresser (you?) to conform to their standards. Granted..."their" standards are common to the standards of many people, but my point is they're asking you to conform to something you don't hold as absolute, and they want you to conform to their standards while you're sitting comfortably on your own hard earned property.

Similarly, I can't think of a response you could offer that wouldn't come across as confrontational, offensive, and unreasonable to them. To their way of thinking, they have every right to peruse the neighbourhood, and shouldn't have to suffer exposure to "that kind of behaviour" while they do it. After all, they try very hard to be good neighbours now don't they. Said with tongue firmly in cheek.

I'm all for educating those willing to listen. I've also learned there are none so blind as those who will not see. IF you believe they will actually make a reasonable effort to "see," by all means attempt to educate them if you so choose.

Have I been in this hypothetical situation? Yes...but only partially. Although my wife is mostly supportive, she is absolutely paranoid a neighbour will see me dressed, then approach her with comments, complaints, or questions. She's made it crystal clear to me, she simply refuses to defend or explain Karen to anyone. Despite my occasional ventures out into our back yard, our neighbours haven't said anything to either of us to this point about Karen. Otoh, the landscaper we use clearly has seen Karen. He expectantly showed up while Karen was shaking out rugs in our backyard. I "owned it" as they say, which allowed him and I to basically laugh it off. The wife avoided any/all contact with him for about six months. They spoke with each other recently, but he never said anything to her about that unexpected surprise.


Karen

[Kim_Bitzflick]

I'll answer your question with a question.

Do you have a point asking him to put on a shirt because he is super hairy and you find it disgusting?

[AlyssaJ]

For me, know, in this situation your neighbor has no right. First, on the logistical side, you said the neighbor had to peep over a fence to see you, so stop looking over the fence. But I realize that wasn't really your point. Two things come to mind here. First, asking you not to wear certain clothes because she's "disgusted" by it is akin to telling an overweight person not to wear certain clothes because it "disgusts" you. It's wrong and there is no place for it. We all wear what we choose to wear not to make others feel one way or another nor to appease their vision of us. Everyone wears what they choose to wear based on their own motivations and likes. So to the neighbor I say get over it.

Now having said that, my second point I think is the crux of your hypothetical dilemma. If it's not OK for the neighbor to tell you what you can and cannot wear in front of them, why is it ok for your wife? Well, at the very heart of the issue, it probably isn't. However, when it comes to our wives, there is far more at play than our neighbors. First, she has to live with you day in and day out. She has no choice but to see you dressed if you dress when she's around. Second, I think we all as CD's harbor some guilt in that very few of us whose wives don't want to see it, were honest about our crossdressing before we got married. Most of us I think feel that our wives married us with a false or incomplete understanding of who we are. We made a commitment to our wives and vice versa to spend a lifetime together with a somewhat false pretense in place. I think most wives feel that way after they find out as well. So we give them more leeway and are willing to work with them to compromise. We've made no such commitments to our neighbors. Third, we have to live with our wives or lose them. Plain and simple. Again for this reason we're willing to find a compromise solution. And again, we have no such attachment to our neighbors.

So really, no one, not even your wife, really has the right to reject something that is a part of who you are and what makes you the person that they know. But wives and family get far more leeway than someone to whom we have less commitment.

[nvlady]

Would you be happy if I dressed normally and made love to my wife in my own back yard?

[NicoleScott]

If I had separated from my wife and moved away I would have gone directly to any neighbours and introduced myself and then informed them that they may see me dressed differently and hope it wouldn't offend them.....

I wouldn't. I think this would be setting yourself up. "Gee, if Teresa (or the name they know you as) thinks it's offensive, maybe it is".
If we're not doing anything wrong or intend offense, we can't be responsible for others taking offense.
Taking Offense At Nothing - it'll be an Olympic sport in 2020, the way things are going.

[Tracii G]

Are you asking this for a "friend" or did it actually happen to you recently?
Maybe I am reading a bit too much into this because its an off the wall question.

[Lauren Richards]

Allowing your neighbor, or anyone else, to determine your behavior is against "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." One State motto is " Don't tread on me". I would update that to "Bite me!" Hypothetically... of course..

Lauren

[Robin414]

Great thread Teresa, I've often contemplated this myself and it's one of my greatest demons! I've never experienced it personally, my neighbors are wonderful but the thought of it nags at me!

I'd say they don't have a point though, if you don't like it don't look at it, there's nothing wrong with it!

On the other hand though, who wants to come across as 'offensive'...sigh 😐

[Kelly Whelan]

"We object to the fact that you walk around undressed in your house in clear view of my family. I have lost count of the number of times I have walked into my kitchen, climbed the small step ladder, stretched out as far as I could, pulled the blinds down and seen your naked body."

A satirized version of a true story. [not to do with me :)]

[Leslie Langford]

Teresa, the mere fact that these types of thoughts and insecurities are (even hypothetically) circulating through your mind prove that the guilt trip that your wife is foisting on you with her incessant "OMG, what would people think if they saw you dressed as a woman?" mantra - along with the corresponding shame and humiliation that you would both then (again, hypothetically) face - is really getting to you.

My wife has attempted to control me with a similar type of brainwashing, and for a number of years she was successful...until I mustered up the courage to go out in public en femme for the first time because the time had finally come, and I could no longer confine "Leslie" to just our house. As others here have corroborated by sharing their own experiences in this regard, it ended up being a total non-event, and I have been going out in public as "Leslie" for nearly 10 years now without so much as a single "incident". I have shopped in major shopping malls and countless women's clothing, shoe, and lingerie stores in my city, interacted freely with SA's, had my nails and makeup done by accommodating GG's, had bra and wig fittings en femme, and have used women's public restrooms extensively without ever encountering any negative reactions whatsoever.

In short, the only person who has ever been distraught over my crossdressing has been my wife. Based on my own experiences and empirical, fact-based evidence, SHE is the one who is on the wrong side of history on this issue now, and so it is with your wife. Odds are that unless your neighbours are skinheads, religious fundamentalists or football hooligans, if they ever saw or met "Teresa" they would be totally nonchalant about the whole thing, if not downright empathetic and supportive.

You have nothing to fear, and your musings truly are hypothetical. They are about as likely to come to pass as are the odds of you being hit by a meteorite.

[Teresa]

Leslie,
Your first paragraph could be the truth, she accepts me driving thirty miles dressed to attend my social meetings, but she does have the concern about me going from house to car and the first hundred yards to get onto the slip road to join the main highway.

I thank everyone else for replying, it does sound as if some have encountered problems and dealt with it.

Just to clear a few points up, we have been neighbours for about thirty years, his house and my other neighbour's overlook me from first floor windows, they may or may not have seen me in the garden but for some reason ( I think Leslie made the point) the thought of him objected raised the question of his rights.

I know I've said this before but we're not the only CDers, I haven't a clue what goes on behind his closed door, it would be in interesting one if he stuck his head over the fence dressed and asked if he could join me in a beer.

[Alice_2014_B]

I've never experienced such, but like others have said: What you do, legal of course, on your property is your business and none of your neighbor's.
:)

[donnalee]

Yes, he has a point - at the top of his teeny, tiny head.

[Tracii G]

Leslie makes a good point I think your wife is more worried how people will view her rather than you if you were to be seen by the neighbors.
Good chance they already know and don't really care.

[Marissa V]

when you walk across the street dressed, and someone walks up to you and says he's offended by the way you dress, you utter 2 words most of the time...'bugger off'. Why would it be any different inside your own house of wich the garden is an integral part?

Secondly...being offended is a choise, you can as easely choose not to be offended. And in the words of a famous Aussie..."nothing happens when you're offended. Its not like 'yesterday i walked in my yard, and i saw a crossdresser and when i woke up in the morning....i had leprosy'." When you're 9 yr old comes in crying because 'charlie called me an idiot' your most likely first reply is 'dont worry about him, he's a moron'. So basicly you teach toddlers 'deal with it'...if that principle is ok for toddlers, and its said to us that we need to 'deal with it' when confronted with stares and gossip in public.....i'm sure it had to apply to your neighbour aswell.

[Shelly Preston]

The neighbours might not like it.

I would say as long as you are not doing anything to cause offence.

Its them who have the problem.

[Marissa V]

The neighbours might not like it.

I would say as long as you are not doing anything to cause offence.

Its them who have the problem.

if he doesnt like it...you have caused offence. Thats the entire thing. And as you say, its he/them that have the problem. They can as easely choose not to be offended. If 'not causing offence' is the argument....we can all stop doing anything we are doing...because somewhere someone could take offence to anything we do. And if being offended these days is a 'valid right'...then so is 'bugger off'.

[LaurenS]

Of course you're free to do what you will in your own back yard, but is this hypothetical friend closeted? If so, then the neighbor could share it with the world. If not closeted, then use the front porch. 😀

[stacycoral]

Teresa, girl your in your yard and if they don't like so be it, but they don't need to down grade you, some people can't get out of there glass house. take care girl hugs.

[DanielleLee]

I'll take a chance and dive a bit deeper. While yes, you aren't doing anything wrong or illegal while in your backyard; and that SHOULD be enough... all of us who have neighbors know that sometimes in order to keep the peace, you have to put up with some BS from time to time.

In this scenario too, you've indicated a DADT relationship at home, or at the least... a situation where the wife is going to be pissed if she finds out that the neighbors have seen you. (regardless if they approved or not)

Just something to ponder while looking at the other side of the coin :-)

[Krisi]

Reading all the responses, it's clear that some are not serious and some are not realistic. I think Danielle Lee has a good point about keeping the peace. I remember growing up and my parents and the next door neighbors feuding and it's not really a fun or comfortable situation.

Since becoming an adult, I have tried to be on good terms with my neighbors. There are lots of advantages even if you don't socialize with them. It's nice to be able to go away and have someone to bring in your mail and packages. It's nice to have someone to keep an eye on your house. It's also nice to be able to get help with heavy lifting or to borrow (or loan) tools.

You do have a right to prance around your property in a dress, but sometimes it's better in the long run not to exercise all your rights.

In this case, we're talking about a DADT relationship and a relationship where the wife would rather her husband not be seen by the neighbors dressed as a female. I would say the solution to the perceived problem is to stay in the house when dressed or take the dressing away from the neighborhood.

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OK we all know how to educate people that think like that ..........

We cannot "educate" anyone who doesn't want to be educated. All we are doing is arguing with them.

[Teresa]

DanielleLee,
I'll agree that's part of the problem, my neighbours may well have seen me and are OK about it but my wife may not be so happy.

At the moment recent events have confused me, I have arranged to play golf with another member, so she asked calmly would we be playing as men or women ? So what level of DADT am I in ?

Jenn may chime in here and say it's OK as long as it's not on my doorstep !

[Sharon B.]

If they don't like what they are seeing they can build a taller fence.

[Stephanie47]

I'll answer your question with a question.

Do you have a point asking him to put on a shirt because he is super hairy and you find it disgusting?

Kim, I glad you said it. I deleted it from my post/comment, but, I had the same thought. I did not want to offend anyone. However, if I do I apologize. What would and does really make me cringe is morbidly obese men and women. When I see a morbidly obese hairy guy who decides to go shirtless...yuck!

I also have had in the past curious neighbors who took it upon themselves to spy of me while en femme. I usually can sit in my backyard without being visible to anyone in the rental house to the north. I must have slipped up one day, and, the nosy neighbor spied me. I did not know it at the time, but, when I was doing some chores on that side of the house I over heard the comment of one to another, "I don't know why he wears women's clothing." After realizing I had been observed over a back fence which is five feet tall set on top of a four foot wall that someone was being overly curious. I noticed the entire family, none of whom (three generations of women) were employed would line up to see if I was going to give them another fashion show. I curtailed my back yard sitting. These neighbors were gossips and I suspect they ran off and told some other neighbors, but, none ever said anything. Anyway, they were evicted for non-payment of the rent and had the utilities turned off my the city. The new neighbors are friendly, but, they have small kids who like to climb the wall while playing. So, my outside activities are limited to when school is on.

My wife is not accepting of my desire to be en femme, so, in deference to her I have not decided to do an "in your face presentation" to the neighbors.

[Majella St Gerard]

I would tell him to mind his own business, I don't care what my neighbors think, I can dress anyway I want to, or not at all it's my property and they should not be looking over the fence.

[Dana44]

As this is a thought up situation, I would tell him to bug off. But here where we have no fences. I've been out and about. But don't flaunt it and no neighbors have said anything except one down the street calls me a lady. LOL no matter how I am dressed. I guess once a lady always a lady.

[NancySue]

We live in a quiet suburban neighborhood. I just finished mowing my lawn, dressed...makeup, bra, with forms, panties, a dark blue tee shirt, women's shorts, flats, nails, and a touch of my favorite perfume. My neighbor came out to get his mail, smiled and waved. In this "conservative" area, one never knows gossip-wise. But, at this point, I could care less. Our neighbors are great friends. We only hope, if my being "comfortable" while I work, becomes an issue, they'll chat with me one on one. The GLBT issues have not been well received or accepted. My guess is, those that object the most and loudest probably dress too. 👗👠

[sarahcrossed]

id tell them to mind their own business with a middle finger on each hand up.

[Amy Fakley]

My neighbour pops his head over the fence and says I'm glad I've caught you in that state because my wife has seen you and is disgusted to see it. If you don't mind can you please keep that kind of behaviour out of sight !

"I'm glad I've caught you expressing a regresive, borderline bigoted opinion, because me and my wife have heard this before from you and I'm disgusted to hear it. If you don't mind, can you please keep your completely inappropriate troglodyte objections to my private behavior inside your head where they belong. Thanks, and have a nice day"

Hypothetically speaking, of course :-)

update just for clarification, this my hypothetical response to Theresa's neoghbor! Not to Theresa directly!! -- sorry for the confusion :-)

[Katie01]

Saying someone is disgusting is wrong on so many levels, and could only lead to defensiveness. No they have no right to tell you how to dress in your own home. Such small mindedness! Seeking some kind of compromise without giving up your rights would be the ideal approach IMHO. My SO is ok with my wearing women's clothes but because I work as a consultant she's worried that it may impact my Biz. A point well taken by me. Compromise works for me.

[Teresa]

Amy,
Those are not my thoughts it was possibly something a bigoted or small minded person might say, I'm going to apologise if using that tone offended you that certainly wasn't the intention of the thread and I would never use that tone with anyone. Also I apologise if other comments have offended you, if you wish to PM me to explain I would be happy to put your mind at rest .

[Adriana Moretti]

if i were you I would invite all the gals from here over for a sat afternoon bbq ....xoxo

[Amy Fakley]

Amy,
Those are not my thoughts it was possibly something a bigoted or small minded person might say, I'm going to apologise if using that tone offended you that certainly wasn't the intention of the thread and I would never use that tone with anyone. Also I apologise if other comments have offended you, if you wish to PM me to explain I would be happy to put your mind at rest .

Oh My Goodness, NO! That was a hypothetical response to your neighbor, not to you! :-)

[Scarlett Viktoria]

If he can point to you exactly where in the HOA covinant or local law that you cannot wear a dress outside than he has a point.

[Eryn]

I'd tell him that if he or his wife didn't want to see me then he should build a solid fence.

More broadly, why are you worrying about a theoretical problem? I've found through experience that all of my imagined fears were unfounded.

[lingerieLiz]

Interesting discussion about what might happen. Truth is that one never knows. Many of my neighbors know and are also friends. I've had a couple neighbors who would have had real problems with it. On the other hand they weren't happy with any neighbors. Over the years going back to the 60s, I've had neighbors that knew that I crossdressed and never mentioned it.

The real story is your wife's feelings and if you were outed would it be bad for your work. It appears you aren't friends with your neighbors.

[grace7777]

I live in an enclosed apartment building and I am sure most of the people in the building know about me. There are around 23 apartments in the building. No one has never made a negative comment to me. I definitely know the apartment manager knows, and have passed her en femme and will say hi and then she will say hi back, so we get along fine. Since I am perusing transitioning, I have more on my mind than what some neighbor may think. In fact some of my fellow residents have been pretty nice to me.

[Tina_gm]

Of course it is easy enough to just tell them to bug off and mind their own business. BUT..... There have been instances where people have had to have big american flags (real big) removed, or big crosses.... it offended someone. So it really becomes more of a point of how far do they want to take it. You would probably win in this, but in the hypothetical since this is what this is, how far do YOU want to take it, if that is what they do??

[Stephanie47]

I remember a "Dear Abby" letter in which the writer queried whether she should approach her neighbors because her husband and sons were spying on the wife who sun bathed without any clothes on in the back yard. The wife had a very nice body. The husband and son were spying from their second story window. The response was tell your husband and son to stop looking out the window!

[redtea]

Don't break the number 1 rule of crossdressing, "don't care what random people think". Other peoples discomfort is of no importance. When you live your life the way other people want you to, You miss out on what you wanted to experience.

[Raychel]

Hypothetically, :daydreaming:
Response, I am glad you brought this up,
Because it really disgust me how I see your wife in your backyard as well.
I really would prefer to see her naked. Do you think you could talk to her about that. :heehee:

[Tracii G]

More broadly, why are you worrying about a theoretical problem? I've found through experience that all of my imagined fears were unfounded.[/QUOTE]

I agree with this statement why even stress about a theoretical problem?? Unless of course this "theoretical " issue really happened but you don't want to admit it.
Stressing over something that you made up sounds a bit crazy.

[Anne K]

Daily, I sunbath in a thong. One evening, we had the neighbors over for dinner and the new, next door neighbor (a single gal) remarked to me (and everybody else), "Imagine my surprise that I moved next door to a nudist!". I just smiled and told her to join me anytime. Everybody had a good laugh. I wondered if she was being passive-aggresive, but as I have come to know her, she was just making an observation and intended no harm. She hasn't joined me yet..........

So, to answer your question, I agree with Reine. I suggest a friendly wave, a big smile, and invite them over for a drink. Ask him if the color looks good on you. Obviously, they are neighbors who you don't want to socialize with.

[Veronica4me]

This may not be a completely hypothetical question, maybe someone has experienced this.

The scenario is I'm relaxing in the garden fully dressed, my wife doesn't wish to see me so she's out. My neighbour pops his head over the fence and says I'm glad I've caught you in that state because my wife has seen you and is disgusted to see it. If you don't mind can you please keep that kind of behaviour out of sight !

OK we all know how to educate people that think like that but does he have a point, my wife makes it clear she doesn't want to see me does he have the right to make the same point ?

OK this came into my head sitting dressed in the garden after a couple of beers !

You could suggest they spend more time shopping at WalMart, then nothing else would disgust them outside the store ever again! :battingeyelashes:

[Teresa]

Joyce,
They are OK as neighbours but have never socialised with anyone in the village, they appear to spend six months away on the south coast. The one thing that is wearing thin is he has deliveries redirected to my address without asking me, in fact I noticed a formal note on one courier company labels confirming that arrangement, I have appeared twice now dressed to take in his parcels.

Raychel,
His wife has sunbathed in a bikini , my wife noticed before I did, I wasn't so stupid to ask if I could do the same .

Tracii,
I'm sure you're right it's just the thought of , " What if ? " . I've always been like that especially with my photography, the times I would have overlooked something if I didn't think of the worse scenario !

[ReineD]

Well, if you don't want to see them and they don't want to see you, you should plant some bamboo next to your fence. It grows quickly and is quite tall. Be sure to dig in metal sheeting of at least 12 inches around the edge of the planting area though, to prevent the roots from traveling. I had planted bamboo in my garden years ago to provide privacy from my neighbors and it worked wonderfully.

Have a look at the effect here. You can plant the bamboo closer together for thicker coverage:

http://www.moneypit.com/sites/default/files/images/Outdoor_Living_and_Landscaping/fascinating-contemporary-home-garden-design-with-bamboo-outdoor-sofa.jpg

[Teresa]

Reine,
We already have a Horse Chestnut tree and two Norwegian Maples , all his trees ! The leaves from those are a nightmare now in autumn let alone anything else. My son has a variety of bamboo that isn't too invasive , so I my ask for some offshoots anyway to fill other areas of the garden.

Going back to Leslie's point , the issue is on my mind because of my DADT situation .

[reinasblack]

I had rented a place just to dress and a person next door told me it was immoral and told me something I'd rather not repeat.
I say if you look into private property you might see things you don't agree with so don't look if it bothers you.

[Jill999]

The question posed by Teresa reminds me of this little joke.

A crotchety old lady calls the police because she claims her male neighbor is walking around his house naked. A officer visits the old girl to see what the problem is and she lights him up about the neighbor is naked morning, noon and night and the officer should go over and arrest him or at least sternly talk to him. The officer asks the lady to show him where and what the situation is and they go to her window and look over at the neighbours house and all the cop can see is the guy from the shoulders up. So the officer tells the lady that all he can see is a guy from the shoulders up without a shirt on to which the old gal tells him he is doing it all wrong and the officer has to stand on the kitchen table to see how right she is.........

Teresa, its your yard and nothing illegal going on, enjoy