Sorry About Last Post I Hope These Are Better

[Nicole Satin]

I am Really sorry about the pics and I hope you approve of these.

[Nicole Satin]

More Pics

[Nicole Satin]

This Pic may be unpopular but the panties are Sloggi Firm control briefs to help my figure.

[Darby]

Umm, Excuse me but let's ease up on the panty shots out in the public forum honey... there are girls that are under 18 here and there are some things that girls just don't do... ok?! Try to get a little more artful ok?!

[Sara Kat]

Those pink shoes are awful. Lose 'em.

[KewTnCurvy GG]

Those pink shoes are awful. Lose 'em.

Quit being so mean! Jesus! Okay, okay, too much gratiutous panty shots but we don't have to get nasty about things that are personal choices--like pink shoes. You grrls are definitely behaving badly and rude!

no hugs
kew :eek: :eek: :( :(

[genevieve_ohara]

This is an open forum.

No censorship.

No rules.

Self-governing.

Sara Kat has every right to speak her mind, as do you, and as do I.

No one here has to be ordered to be nice. Or polite. Let the girls be who they are.

[KewTnCurvy GG]

This is an open forum.

No censorship.

No rules.

Self-governing.

Sara Kat has every right to speak her mind, as do you, and as do I.

No one here has to be ordered to be nice. Or polite. Let the girls be who they are.

You're right! They can be as nasty as they wanna be. You're absolutely ****ing right. Now doesn't this make for a nicer playground grrlz!

Ridiculous!

kew

[KewTnCurvy GG]

Then, Genivieve, that would make it so no one should bitch about her panties and how
we need to keep it clean for the young'ins.

Again, ridiculous!

I think those of you being nasty should hang your heads in shame! I will always come to the defense of the underdog. Although I do admit I'm not sure if she's trying to provoke others or what.

I'm getting a little tired of the behaviour around here. But then again, as you've pointed out, there are no rules, there are no standards. So **** it!

lol

outta here
kew

[JoannaDees]

I agree with Kewt about the shoe comment ... just what IS wrong with them? But I think that it's not the shoes, it's the pictures that keep coming. They are not the sort most on this forum wish to see, and it's been communicated several times, but it's not getting in. Most on this forum wish to see the pretty clothes, the nice makeup (or as in my case the attempt ... farsighted, grrrrrr), but not the panty shots. OK, Nicole? NOT the panty shots!

[KewTnCurvy GG]

Yea, Joanna, I do get the panty thing; however, I've seen many a gratuitous panty shot by other's and no one said "boo". Now all of a sudden it's Mz. Moral city. I'm a bit perturbed.

:(

hugs
kew

[Marlene4a]

We must all understand that we are all different, and have different ideals.

I think Nicole is just being "Nicole" and to her, what she is doing is right, and not meant to offend.

Sure, I agree, I don't care for "sleeze" . That is not what this forum is all about including showing our panties, and other things you would not do or show in public.

However, we must be kind to those who don't realize what they are doing and KINDLY address the issues with them.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

With all love and respect.

Marlene

[chloe]

Im with you Kew. Grow up!!!!!! Nicole made an appology for the pictures she posted before. Give her a litte respect. As Marlene said, were all different. Theres nothing wrong with pink shoes( in the right context)........Happy happy happy happy........oooooooh panties...scary

[Amelie]

I have to agree with both Kew and Genevieve. If someone is going to critize someones shoes, then Kew has the right to critize that person for the comments on the shoes, just as Genevieve can now critisize Kew for her comments, but I always thought this forum was mainly for support and not to insult another CD. If you don't like her shoes be tactful and tell her kindly, or don't tell her at all.
Of another note, I have noticed how quite a few Cds here put down Nicoles pictures as rude. If this is so, then why is it OK to talk about getting erections while being dressed in public and how to control them, isn't that just as rude. While they are not pictures, talking about getting hard-ons while shopping at Victorias Secret can be considered rude. I also saw somewhere on the threads, pictures I think, were either two women or two She-mails, who were naked, why wasn't there an out cry over these pictures.
Is it because it is OK to show nude or scantly clothed women but if a man is nude or scantly clothed it is obscene. My opinion is to let both be shown or none, and if someone does have an opinion, they should show their displeasure, but try to be fair and critisize when they also show pics of naked women as well.
Amelie

[Tonia]

I agree with Kewt about the shoe comment ... just what IS wrong with them? But I think that it's not the shoes, it's the pictures that keep coming. They are not the sort most on this forum wish to see, and it's been communicated several times, but it's not getting in. Most on this forum wish to see the pretty clothes, the nice makeup (or as in my case the attempt ... farsighted, grrrrrr), but not the panty shots. OK, Nicole? NOT the panty shots!

If she would only shave her DAM leggs it would look so bad but the Panty shots i think we could live without hehe.

Tonia

[Lily_gg]

Not all ggs/girls want to/have the option of shaving their legs you know!

I think you should all be very careful of criticising others harshly in here - it'll leave you with no leg to stand on if anyone decides to criticise you.

And these certainly aren't the first panty shots I've seen in here either - if you're going to object to these, you'd better all be consistent and object to all the rest!

Nicole - maybe tone down the panty shots, since they're getting such a bad reaction, or limit them to the personals or something, but carry on posting everything else to your heart's content - at least the ggs (genetic girls) in here support you and the courage it's taken you to post!!! *hugs* ;)

Oh, and Darby? Isn't there an over-18 age limit on this site, or am I getting it mixed up with somewhere else?

And to all those being cruel, *spank* :eek: Stop it!

[Julie]

Lily, yes you're right, this site is supposed to be 18 and over.

I'm glad we've got you and Kew to keep our heel's on the ground.

Julie J

[jessicadiane]

And to all those being cruel, *spank* :eek: Stop it!

Talk about your tough love.lol We do need to try to support each other more and not put down one another.I apprreciate Kewt and Lily for showing us the error in our ways .Huggs all around

[Tristen Cox]

Nicole, I got on to this thread this morning and immediatily got aggrevated with the replies. First let me say I have no problem with you, some girls are too afraid to post their pictures ,you go girl! And oh the shoes look fine to me. You know we have already had one member who was perhaps objective and critisizing. Finally some voiced how she made them feel and she's not returned since. Here we are doing the same thing instead of supporting constructive advice. WTF!
Kewt, Lily, Amelie right on! Everyone has their say of course, but how would you feel in her 'shoes'? I am not attacking anyone only saying some of these comments would make me feel like shit.
If we are to be accepted then, we all must be accepted among ourselves. Nicole you are welcome here in my book as well as anyone else is, and I hope taking the photos was half the fun! **smile**

[Amelie]

Very nicely said Tristen, like Lily said if we don't support each other then we can not expect understanding from people outside of here.
Amelie

[carolynhcd]

When I log onto this site, I get the same feeling that I get when I use the ladies' room in a GLBT nightclub. I feel free from judgement and social mores and reprovement. I like that feeling a lot. Only a few of us on this site are GG's, and so few of us can feel that we know what it is to be a real woman. Many of us are struggling toward that end, whether merely psychologically or in physical actuality. But none of us are there yet. But bitching does not make anyone more feminine. Many, many of us have written that we are motivated to do what we do by our love for women. Many of us are rejected for what we do by the women we love. In this ladies' room, there is only room for love and acceptance. This is our refuge. Here, no one is bald or fat or ugly. Here we are all beautiful women, living our dreams with our girlfriends. How many of us have craned our necks or crossed a busy street to get a peek up some beauty's skirt? I know I have. Almost every one of us has seen our own panty crotch and bulge, some of us daily. Is this really so big a deal? Everyone, remember the first pair of shoes you bought for yourself. Still love them? Did you absolutely adore them when you bought them? Tastes change, styles change, in fact everything changes. How fleeting our time here and how fleeting our time together. I support your dreams, as I hope that you support mine. In a world where we have so few allies and friends, how can we bicker amongst ourselves? I love you all.

[Tristen Cox]

When I log onto this site, I get the same feeling that I get when I use the ladies' room in a GLBT nightclub. I feel free from judgement and social mores and reprovement. I like that feeling a lot. Only a few of us on this site are GG's, and so few of us can feel that we know what it is to be a real woman. Many of us are struggling toward that end, whether merely psychologically or in physical actuality. But none of us are there yet. But bitching does not make anyone more feminine. Many, many of us have written that we are motivated to do what we do by our love for women. Many of us are rejected for what we do by the women we love. In this ladies' room, there is only room for love and acceptance. This is our refuge. Here, no one is bald or fat or ugly. Here we are all beautiful women, living our dreams with our girlfriends. How many of us have craned our necks or crossed a busy street to get a peek up some beauty's skirt? I know I have. Almost every one of us has seen our own panty crotch and bulge, some of us daily. Is this really so big a deal? Everyone, remember the first pair of shoes you bought for yourself. Still love them? Did you absolutely adore them when you bought them? Tastes change, styles change, in fact everthing changes. How fleeting our time here and how fleeting our time together. I support your dreams, as I hope that you support mine. In a world where we have so few allies and friends, how can we bicker amongst ourselves? I love you all.

Beautiful

[Amelie]

Bravo!!!! Carolyn,,,, your words are much needed.
Love Amelie

[genevieve_ohara]

I do agree that being polite is important.

But what about sincere?

Should we feel as though we cannot be honest, just because we have to be unconditionally supportive?

The reason we're here is that we're being honest with our true selves, and letting that self out, and letting others meet that self.

How will we know that we're really on target unless our sisters are honest?

I DON'T want a yes-man. I want the truth. Polite, yes. Supportive, yes. But I don't think we should all be held hostage by some self-appointed hall monitor who tells us how to think and speak....and spell.

Deal.

G

[Wenda]

I have to agree with both Kew and Genevieve. If someone is going to critize someones shoes, then Kew has the right to critize that person for the comments on the shoes, just as Genevieve can now critisize Kew for her comments, but I always thought this forum was mainly for support and not to insult another CD. If you don't like her shoes be tactful and tell her kindly, or don't tell her at all.
Of another note, I have noticed how quite a few Cds here put down Nicoles pictures as rude. If this is so, then why is it OK to talk about getting erections while being dressed in public and how to control them, isn't that just as rude. While they are not pictures, talking about getting hard-ons while shopping at Victorias Secret can be considered rude. I also saw somewhere on the threads, pictures I think, were either two women or two She-mails, who were naked, why wasn't there an out cry over these pictures.
Is it because it is OK to show nude or scantly clothed women but if a man is nude or scantly clothed it is obscene. My opinion is to let both be shown or none, and if someone does have an opinion, they should show their displeasure, but try to be fair and critisize when they also show pics of naked women as well.
Ameliewell, here I am agreeing with the goth goddess again. L'il Ms Moose Jaw. The panties pic isn't photogenic, but it is not obscene. The shoes? well, if you have tried to buy size 12 shoes, you know that anything that feels comfy, you buy, right? Let's try to be supportive and not get pissy, ok? wenda.

[KewTnCurvy GG]

Amelie, Tristen, Carolynhcd! I concure (spelling?:p) And to Genevieve, there's a difference between being honest and being crass. It's called 'tact'.

hugs
kew

[clarissa3d]

My computer is down for a day or two and what do I come back too???

Please compose your selves as all ladies do. I want to see big smiles all around.

To put a comment out to someone good or bad can be done politely and tastefully.
Do we need an etquatte thread?
We can start with this link I think...
http://www.udefineu.com/home.html?ID=2-5974

Such sweet gurls

[Alayna]

I do agree that being polite is important.

But what about sincere?

Should we feel as though we cannot be honest, just because we have to be unconditionally supportive?

The reason we're here is that we're being honest with our true selves, and letting that self out, and letting others meet that self.

How will we know that we're really on target unless our sisters are honest?

I DON'T want a yes-man. I want the truth. Polite, yes. Supportive, yes. But I don't think we should all be held hostage by some self-appointed hall monitor who tells us how to think and speak....and spell.

Deal.

GRight on! I agree that we should be supportive as much as we can, especially since we have such a lack of support from the rest of the world....But, when you lose the sincerity you're not really being supportive anymore - sometimes you're doing more harm than good.
The shoe comment, although uncalled for and a little mean was still totally fine to post. Sara is just posting her opinion and although it's not supportive in the way we're used to, it still it telling Nicole that not everyone likes her shoes (of course not everyone hates them either - I think they're kinda cute;) ). She's being sincere and that takes a lot of guts sometimes knowing that the reaction is gonna end up with you in flames. Of course on the same note, people have just as much right to criticize her for her comments.

As for the panty shot? I agree with Kew (big surprise:rolleyes: ). Taste is subjective but we all know what the general boundaries for good taste are - that belongs more in the personals section.

[Tristen Cox]

Quote:
Originally Posted by genevieve_ohara
I do agree that being polite is important.

But what about sincere?

Should we feel as though we cannot be honest, just because we have to be unconditionally supportive?

The reason we're here is that we're being honest with our true selves, and letting that self out, and letting others meet that self.

How will we know that we're really on target unless our sisters are honest?

I DON'T want a yes-man. I want the truth. Polite, yes. Supportive, yes. But I don't think we should all be held hostage by some self-appointed hall monitor who tells us how to think and speak....and spell.

Deal.

G




Right on! I agree that we should be supportive as much as we can, especially since we have such a lack of support from the rest of the world....But, when you lose the sincerity you're not really being supportive anymore - sometimes you're doing more harm than good.
The shoe comment, although uncalled for and a little mean was still totally fine to post. Sara is just posting her opinion and although it's not supportive in the way we're used to, it still it telling Nicole that not everyone likes her shoes (of course not everyone hates them either - I think they're kinda cute;) ). She's being sincere and that takes a lot of guts sometimes knowing that the reaction is gonna end up with you in flames. Of course on the same note, people have just as much right to criticize her for her comments.

As for the panty shot? I agree with Kew (big surprise:rolleyes: ). Taste is subjective but we all know what the general boundaries for good taste are - that belongs more in the personals section.

Ladies, I understand sincerity and yes it is important for one's growth. No we don't need a watch dog to tell us how to post. And no the pantie shots aren't the most popular on this site, so it is everyone's right to say so if they choose. We have rights here as well as freedom to say what we like. That is what makes us who we are. Sara did not like the shoes nor did a few others in the past. No problem.. It was simply the way "lose 'em" sounded to me over "I don't like the shoes". What'a said is said. I'm over it.

[jade lee]

I think that if there is people here under 18, and know how they feel what they are, is mature enough to understand what they are!
Then we know there is girls here that CD to feel very horney and maybe when they are dress is the only way to have sex.
Isn't it bad enough that many of us have to hide in a closet!
Jeez some of you sound like my parent, prejudice, as far as I am concern, I don't have the time to be prejudice for somebody shoe or how they look.
"Feeling are neither right or wrong, it is how you feel"
Did some of us forget the rest of the world looks at us as werid!
It is the same on the internet, if you wish to view porn, do it on your own. If not don't look.
If a girl wants to flash here , let them, there is girls here is just as bad the way they dress, as in very seducing.
I am not defending of what or who is right, but respect them for who they are. Just like in high school, you have the cheerleaders and then the girls that are gothlic and ****. I guess it will never end in our time. But generation X seem to have it together to a degree! While we still act like our parents!

[Amelie]

This is an open forum.

No censorship.

No rules.

Self-governing.

Sara Kat has every right to speak her mind, as do you, and as do I.

No one here has to be ordered to be nice. Or polite. Let the girls be who they are.
My point was not on the shoes but on the other photos and the other photos Nicole posted on another thread. I agree there shouldn't be moniters, the only point I am trying to make is, there was a picture of two naked She-Males posted on a thread called Sexy Trannys, which no one gave a bad comment to. Also Nina and Cutie also post the same type of photos, with only Cutie getting one bad remark. So when we remark badly to Nicole, what we are saying is, you are not as pretty as these other CDs and we will tell you these photos are bad, because we don't want to view ugly pics. This is what I see being told to Nicole, and that isn't fair. I agree that if a Cd has an outfit that needs commenting go ahead and comment but to say to one CD, your pics should not be here or is told to put them on another thread(personals) while the same type of Pics of other CD are posted without the same comment is wrong and mean. If we allow pics of the She-Males, Cutie, Nina, and other girls, then we have to allow Nicole Photos as well. It isn't the girls in this thread that are trying to be monitors, it was the ones who told Nicole to put the pictures in the personel section, they were the censors.
Again< I agree you should be allowed to comment, but it can be done tactfuly, as Kew said.
Amelie