Halloween

[nvlady]

On Halloween, if you dress like a rabbit do people assume that for the rest of the year you go out at night raiding your neighbors vegetable gardens? No, they simply assume you dressed like a rabbit for this night.
On Halloween, if you dress like a dog do people assume that for the rest of the year you go out at night sniffing dog's butts? No, they simply assume you dressed like a dog for this night.
On Halloween, if you dress like a girl do people assume you do that every night? No they simply assume you did it for this night.
Have fun on Halloween.

[carisa]

I love Halloween! One of the few nights I go out fully dressed

[Stephanie47]

I think most will agree there is a lot to the presentation when emulating a woman. If you're a guy with a lot of beard shadow, walk like a duck, swing your arms like a chimp and wear an awful wig, I guess nobody is going to think you wear women's clothing other times of the year. Now, if you have impeccable makeup and a costly wig and beautiful nails, walk beautifully in five inch heels, sit poised like a woman and have a dynamite sexy outfit with boobs that giggle, then just maybe your presentation is just a little bit too refined. Once I was in a local variety store on Halloween and a young male worker of the store strutted through the store. I was standing near two female employees and they were taking bets as to whether he was a cross dresser because his presentation was just a little too good.

[josie_S]

I think most will agree there is a lot to the presentation when emulating a woman. ...

This is exactly my fear about halloween...I'd hate to just throw on a dress and cheap wig and slather on lipstick (I actually did that in college and I felt weird about it) but if I went all out I might be *too* good and I'm just not that comfortable stepping out of the closet that way. I get how others can do it, but I can't.

[franlee]

All this reasoning and rationalizing has killed the Fun. You either do or you don't and if you're worried about what others are thinking afterwards maybe you should find another party or event to participate in where there is no judgment or speculation the next day.

[Marcelo]

Two years ago I went to a party in my Castrators cheerleader uniform. It was a small crowd but a group of us were group rocking the karaoke. It was still pretty early in the night when a guy dressed like Slash knelt down in front of me and pulled up my skirt. I was wearing a Star White Vanity Fair Illumination string bikini panty over my gaff so that not a lick of my man parts were showing. I instinctively pulled my skirt down as a couple of spectating women's jaws dropped. I think it was an embarrassing moment - at least for Slash! ;-) The only thing embarrassing about it for me was that I was wearing a plain panty with no lace or bow. :-(

If you're wearing a really nice wig, have good looking makeup, clean shaven arms and legs and wearing nothing but a panty under your skirt and it appears you have no male parts someone is probably gonna think you do this more than once a year...

Go get 'em gurlz!

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Volunteering at The Original Mud Run...
They get mad when I show up out of uniform. :-)

[Stephanie47]

Franlee

I am in total agreement. If the object of Halloween is to dress up as feminine as possible my recommendation for having fun is to NOT attend a party. Perhaps a better alternative is to go on a date with your wife or girl friend out to dinner, followed by a movie (with or without a trip to the ladies' room), and, then stop at a late night coffee shop. A little shopping at a mall. There are many venues for a couple to be seen and not noticed. Of course, maybe the GG accompanying you may want to wear a wig. I always thought, if both were of similar height and weight, going as the "Double Mint Twins" would be fun...matching outfits, hair and makeup.

[josie_S]

wow...well i guess I'm sorry to kill the fun

[Dana44]

Halloween is my favorite Holiday and my SO and I dress up. It is a night to be anything you want and many straight men have shaved their legs and tried it. So, CD's have fun dressing for that night also.

[franlee]

Josie, I was referring to the individual not that you were causing anyone other than yourself grief by over thinking and questioning what should be simple fun. There are many that ask the same questions about the Halloween festivity they want to go to or indulge in. So I'm sorry if you misunderstood me. What one does is always a personal choice and begs to question repercussions. That is why I offered another idea to consider. But the necessity to reason it out would kill the Fun part for me and there by answer my question.

[josie_S]

no harm done :)

I guess I'm mostly just jealous because I'd love to get dolled up and go out, but it would really leave me open to a lot of scrutiny I don't want. I'm just not in a place where I'm comfortable with that I guess, even if it is on Halloween. And I've crossdressed long enough to know that dressing down, so to speak, would kill me. I want to be pretty dammit!

[Tracii G]

There are some here that seem to think Halloween is the one free pass night for CDers.

[docrobbysherry]

Halloween IS a free pass for me! Because only then can I wear a mask without upsetting folks.:tongueout

However, dressing up and going out dressed is no big deal for me. Passing IS!:daydreaming:

If u wish to PASS as a female at Halloween don't dress up as a pretty woman. Dress as a pretty woman in a COSTUME. I have actually been mistaken for a woman in my Halloween costumes.

And, the experience is surprisingly 180 degrees different than being seen as possibly a man in a dress!:battingeyelashes:

[ellbee]

...walk beautifully in five inch heels...

I always love how those are against it always take it to the extremes. Wearing flats on Halloween is perfectly okay, you know. ;)




There are some here that seem to think Halloween is the one free pass night for CDers.

And there are some here who seem to think Halloween is a death-sentence for CD'ers. :)

[Tania75]

For Halloween, I don't try to pass, I buy a cheap costume from my local department store, and try to complete the cheap costume look for my makeup etc. It's a great reason to be a bit over the top with your fashion sense.
It is supposed to be fun after all, and not looking like I'm trying to pass at my local nightclub.

[redtea]

Nvlady...That logic might not work. If you end up looking as good as Valery on the forums and you go out as "a girl" It will actually appear to be that you aren't wearing a costume because you very passable. It sort of outs you or creates a new light for friends and family. The context of Halloween doesn't change the fact that they see you all dolled up, and quite good too. The rabbit costume analogy doesn't work because the number of rabbit people in the world is far less than the number of men who wish they could girl it up. Being a girl on Halloween is a Hint that maybe it's not just Halloween. After all being a girl on Halloween takes lots of guts to do for a non-CDing man and even more for a CDing man.

It depends on the people in your life and your body frame.

[AllieBellema]

I'm going to a party at the end of the month dressed up as Belle from Beauty and the Beast. I'll be surrounded by my friends who all know I crossplay/crossdress and support me for it. One of them, his parents are hosting it at their mansion and they've seen me dressed up at past parties and don't mind me one bit, his mother even has admired what I've done in the past.

[Pat]

I always used to discount the whole "don't present too well" crowd until last year when I went to a Halloween party all dolled up and someone cornered my date and demanded to know why I had go-go boots that fit. She just referred them to me (actual words: "Go ask her.") and they never had the gumption to address it with me. Doesn't bother me because I am out, but I was a little surprised that what I assumed were scaredy-cats were in fact correct. Take it under advisement if it's an issue for you.

[IleneD]

I am crestfallen over Halloween
My "coming out" with SO is about 10 weeks past. While she's OK with me Dressing, I've learned, the more we talk, that she dreads the thought of going out in public; either as a couple (on date or party), or me as a solo.
I proposed using Halloween as a way to enjoy my newly announced CD habit. That door got slammed.
Had The Talk, phase 2. Still working on it. For now "it" stays in the house. :sad:
Halloween..... maybe next year

[ellbee]

...someone cornered my date and demanded to know why I had go-go boots that fit.

Don't people wear costumes that typically fit them? :strugglin



Anyway, I'll share a story that swings the other way...


Years ago in a different professional life, shortly after Halloween one year, I had shared with my co-worker who didn't know about "my other half" a photo of me all dolled up in my cat costume from a few nights before. I had known her for years, and she was known for her honesty & bluntness. She genuinely did not believe it was me, but instead kept insisting it was actually "a pretty lady." (No, I'm not exactly known for my instant recognizability, even I admit that, LOL.)

So, I had to call over one of our co-workers who had gone out with me that night, and had her confirm. Co-worker #1 got all excited, asking her about what I wore, blah blah blah. After they were done, she got out her cell phone & showed me a couple pics of her husband in *his* women's Halloween costume that year. (I looked better. ;) )


Goes on to tell me a little about his CD'ing, obviously & outwardly very happy & excited to share with someone else who's "the same" as her hubby. She seemed pretty okay with the whole thing, for the most part. Maybe not necessarily encouraging, but acceptance of her husband, at the very least.

Then she asks me if I think it's appropriate for him to be leaving all his women's clothes & stuff laying around when they have guests to their home. Asks her what she means, and it did sound like he was a bit of a girl-slob who just didn't care (and perhaps even his way of being "out" to those in his life).

I was just like, yeah, should probably clean up a little after one's self, especially if there's company coming -- like any non-CD'er should. Whether that was relayed to her husband, who knows. But I did my part, LOL.


Anyway, oftentimes this co-worker tended to be pretty serious & non-emotional. But when she found out that there was another of the same ilk, live & in-the-flesh, she was pretty ecstatic & animated about it all, as if a weight had been lifted off her shoulders & was able to share all these things with someone who "gets it."


Getting all dolled-up for Halloween: It ain't all bad, ya know! :)

[Lorileah]

someone cornered my date and demanded to know why I had go-go boots that fit. :idontknow: Um...you went shopping maybe? Maybe you saw them at a thrift store while looking for that used electric drill. They were left to you by an aunt with very large feet who danced on the Dean Martin show in 1968. Why is that question inferred as "Hey I know you dress."? and maybe they didn't fit...maybe your feet hurt later

[Pat]

and maybe they didn't fit...maybe your feet hurt later

I'm sure I'd have remembered that part. ;) No, they fit well. As I said, she never came to speak to me, but I gather that the boots were just a trigger -- they fit my large feet and were clearly better than costume quality. I'd guess combined with the rest of the presentation and my ease in the role made her feel like she had Found Me Out. Joke's on her... I was out long before that.

The whole point of it was that the people who seem paranoid in their fear that "doing too good a job might make others suspicious" may actually have a point, and if you need to remain closeted for whatever reason it's a point to consider. I'm sad that it's true. But it's true.

[Tracii G]

And there are some here who seem to think Halloween is a death-sentence for CD'ers. :)[/QUOTE]

I never said it was and if they want to dress up on that day only well I'm fine with that but what comes to my mind is if they can do it on Halloween and be fine then they can do it any other day of the year.
Say that to them and all hell breaks loose.

[VivienneH]

My Wife is awate of what I like but prefers a DADT attitude regarding my dressing. I've asked if I can go out en femme at Halloween with her to a burlesque night we attend but she says it's inappropriate.....

So I'll likely be going as the Phantom, a vampire or V from 'V for Vendetta' again this year.

[Dana44]

Hey, go as David Bowie, he was quite androgynous and still a man. but if you go as half and half that should not be an issue.

[Jane277]

I never said it was and if they want to dress up on that day only well I'm fine with that but what comes to my mind is if they can do it on Halloween and be fine then they can do it any other day of the year.
Say that to them and all hell breaks loose.

I for one with will be using holloween as my test run like you said if I can do it on that night while with my friends and family (only wife and mother in law know about Jane) I can do it anytime, thank you Tracii G until you pointed that out I never looked at it that way

[Marcelo]

BTW, Halloween is also known as the National Day of Crossdressing - even if it is observed on other days besides October 31.

[Sandi Beach]

Non-CD guys can go all out dressing for Halloween. I have shared the whole story before, so I will give the short version.

Before I was a "CD'er", my first time ever was for Halloween. My wife went as a man, and I went as a woman. My wife believed I would never go out, because I would be too embarrassed in public. So as not to be embarrassed, I shaved my legs, hands, and chest. Bought clothes that fit, had my wife do my makeup. I let my nails grow longer to paint them, and practiced a few days on the heels before going out. I was NOT an attractive looking woman, be I was a realistic looking one. That gave me the courage to go out in public, pump gas on the way there, and get something at the store.

it was the most fun I ever had on Halloween, and the best costume I had ever done. I went all out, but I did that every year. One year I went as the tin man from wizard of Oz, and made a costume out of metal that I was actually bolted into.

So, my point is I was not a Cross a Dresser, and went all out. Now the "problem" is that I enjoyed it a little too much, and still do it. It was my start of CDing. I was actually comfortable in the clothes, and loved the way the nylons felt on my shaved legs. I even like showering after that night, with my legs shaved. I want to keep them that way. I have never shaved my legs again, or gone out in public dressed again, but I still like dressing up again when the wife is out.

[Krisi]

On Halloween, if you dress like a girl do people assume you do that every night? No they simply assume you did it for this night.
Have fun on Halloween.

If you believe that, nothing I say is going to change your mind. I was at a Halloween dance years ago and a guy came with some friends of mine. He was dressed as a woman and looked good. It was clear to me that he was a crossdresser and my friends even volunteered the information that he was a "female impersonator".

Some others have already tried to explain it so I'll be brief; If you dress in a convincing way, have the boobs, hips and everything else to present as a convincing woman, people will know that you do this more than once a year.

If you really want to do it, go to another town or city where nobody knows you. You might fool the folks but even if you don't, they don't know you so it doesn't matter.

[NicoleScott]

If you're out every day, good for you. Does it make you feel better by throwing a wet blanket on others' excitement at going out once a year?