Self Pleasure

[deebra]

And I'm not talking about the obvious, I'm referring to another self pleasure we enjoy as crossdressers. Do you have self pleasure when getting dressed, having learned how to put on and adjust a bra, panties, hose, garter belt and female outer clothing just like a woman. The fulfilling pleasure of putting each piece on and looking in the mirror to admire and appreciate the feminine clothing and transformation to that of a woman. How to apply makeup and proud of the feminine face you create. Walking well in heels. Having female mannerisms. How to set down when wearing a skirt with hose and heels and crossing your legs. Going public and passing and blending as a woman and the satisfaction when getting home that you did it. Accepting your self as a CD and enjoy being one.

Remember when you knew nothing, didn't know what size to buy, afraid to buy or look in the women's department, would never consider going out in public or shopping for clothes in a woman's store. Now you can do everything just like a woman, doesn't that make you not only feel self pleasure but you feel womanly as you dress as well. I do.

[Tracy Irving]

There is probably something wrong with me but I don't want to be a woman. I really don't care if I look or act like one. I just want to wear the clothes.

[I Am Paula]

Interesting that you think women wear hose, and a garter belt. How very June Cleaver.

[AlyssaJ]

Having never gone out fully femme other than Halloween, no I don't share the same emotions you do. However, what I do feel every time I slip on a skirt, pull up a pair of pantyhose or stay-ups, slip on a cute pair of heels, is a definite feeling of relief and just being "normal". Having to watch women walk around in their daily lives being free to be themselves and me being jealous of them, this is my escape. I finally get to let a little part of me free to just enjoy being me. So to that end, yes there is definitely an intense pleasure I experience from getting dressed and it runs far deeper for me than simply satisfaction of successfully pulling off a convincing female impersonation.

[Alice_2014_B]

I do feel an overall satisfaction when I'm getting dressed up on until I'm ready to de-dress.
And going out in public fully dressed is just amazing! Just stepping out the front door of the apartment is amazing, though I'm not going out anywhere.
:)

[NicoleScott]

Very June Cleaver indeed. Many crossdressers (men who dress as women, not transwomen who claim dual status) acquired our attractions, preferences, images, fantasies, and fetishes from times long ago, and the fashions of those times. It's what feminine dressing is to us. I would think that a far greater percentage of transwomen dress in current fashions than crossdressers, and understandably so. Sure, many CDers dress in current styles, but not all.

[IleneD]

What do you mean, 'the cups go in the front"? First lessons.... such a B.

[Stephanie47]

What you described happened decades ago, if ever. Before I dress I have mentally thought out what I am going to wear. Then I get it out of my wardrobe boxes, get dressed, and, get my domestic chores done. Wearing a dress and heels just makes the female mannerism come into play. Frankly, I don't and never had any "play dress up" days where I changed outfits many times just for the heck of it. Too much to get done around the house.

[docrobbysherry]

I believe the word your looking for is "satisfaction", Deebra? Experience and confidence in learning how to create the fem image I like, to the best of my ability, gives me satisfaction!:daydreaming:

"Self pleasuring" may follow if I'm completely satisfied with Sherry's look!:o

[Joyce Swindell]

I never want to stop when it's time to stop being Joyce. So in essence ...yes I get great pleasure from crossdressing. I've always wanted more though, like doing what I would normally do in male mode but in a dress. Maybe have a friend to share the same interests ....working on a project together. That has been a life long search. All things considered I am in a great place now with my wife who supports me and we go out to a local CD group meeting together. So it makes things pretty nice when we can get out.

[LilSissyStevie]

I believe it's called foreplay.



Interesting that you think women wear hose, and a garter belt. How very June Cleaver.

For most of us, if we are honest with ourselves, it's about emasculation - not being a woman. "Being a woman" is just one of the most powerful symbols of emasculation.

[Dana44]

Wow, June Cleaver, yeah, when one does go all out. It is pretty feminine. But today, you can still be pretty feminine in thigh high hose, a skirt and nice top. I would agree with Doc that it is satisfaction. But sometmes self pleasure.

[Pumped]

Interesting that you think women wear hose, and a garter belt. How very June Cleaver.

Some must, I don't think the CD crowd buys enough to justify the market!

[BLUE ORCHID]

Hi Deebra:hugs:, Although I don't go out I have mastered the art of presenting as a mature lady...:daydreaming:...

[Kate Simmons]

Its satisfying to know we can do this and be happy. :)

[Teresa]

Deebra,
I look at it satisfying an inner need !

I have to admit I'm usually in a hurry to get dressed so there's no prolonged pleasure of each item going on, maybe I'm well over that stage and simply doing it like any GG would.

I do remember the stages we go through and the ingenuity of getting over them . I remember my first heels were bought by telling the SAs I was taking part in a charity show , and stupidly even offered to drop some tickets into them. Underwear was always bought near Valentines day rather than Xmas because it usually hit the spring sales when the prices were cheaper, I knew my size but always wrote it down as if they were my wife's measurements and I didn't understand them .

Paula,
I still find suspender belt and stocking far easier to wear as a man, if they fit corectly they are extremely comfortable, OK also sexier than tights !

[AlyssaJ]

Some must, I don't think the CD crowd buys enough to justify the market!

I know a few women who prefer stockings to pantyhose. Not sure if they wear garters or if they wear stay-ups but while it's less popular there are plenty of women that do still wear hosiery, some on a pretty regular basis.

[DIANEF]

I wouldn't say I got pleasure out of getting dressed, in fact I'd say it's now a very routine thing. Maybe a long time ago I would enjoy the feeling of a bra or stockings, now they're just (female) clothes. What I do like is seeing the end result, turning myself from an average looking guy into what (hopefully) looks like a woman, no beauty contest winner but not bad enough to frighten pets and small children! I've mastered heels and think I present well. As for going out, on the verge of doing it, just waiting for the right opportunity.

[CONSUELO]

I always feel a great deal of pleasure as I slip into my feminine self. Part of it is just psychological as I assume my favorite persona. Being dressed in a feminine way is so much a part of me that it feels relaxing and natural. I also enjoy the sensuous feelings as a slip slides gently over my stockinged legs and as I walk the slip and dress or skirt slip back and forth over my thighs. I agree with Teresa about stockings and garter belts or even corsets. They are a constant reminder to maintain a good posture.

Conversely, when I have to appear in man mode I enjoy the act of dressing really well with good quality shirts and well tailored suits. However it is not as deeply satisfying and sensuous as being in my transvestite mode. That is the best by far.

[Tracii G]

The June Cleaveretts would be a good name for a private forum.
Or girdles,garters and hoop skirts.
That way they can all have their own place and talk among themselves

[Vickie_CDTV]

What is wrong with being June Cleaver, if one chooses to be? Women are supposed to have choices today, I don't know why women who choose a more traditional gender role and/or dress are looked down upon.

[Alice Torn]

Vickie, Dittos!!

[Periwinkle]

I'm with Tracy. I just like the clothes. But I do feel pretty great when I muster up the courage to go outside and go somewhere fun in said clothes. And I think I mentioned this in another thread, but another simple pleasure of mine is twirling around in a pretty skirt or dress. It's a bit childish, but there's no denying that it's fun. :)

[NicoleScott]

The June Cleaveretts would be a good name for a private forum.
Or girdles,garters and hoop skirts.
That way they can all have their own place and talk among themselves

Or you can choose not to participate in threads that don't interest you.

[ShelbyDawn]

I find a great deal of pleasure in taking my time with shaving my legs. Going over each little patch until all the stubble is completely gone; running my hands over the smooth finished product and enjoying my handiwork then retouching that one spot that isn't quite prefect until they are perfectly smooth. I can imaging that those of you who dress to pass as much as possible or to obtain a specific look may get the same satisfaction from working on your makeup and styling your wig and choosing your accessories until your look is exactly what you want it to be. I don't have much of a chance of ever passing, so I take my simple pleasures where I can find them... ;)

[lingerieLiz]

I grew up in June Cleaver time. Out and about after high school, I found getting ready, putting on pretty lingerie and a nice outfit was exciting and a pleasure. I've moved with the fashions and my contemporary women. Today, I put on my clothes to get dressed. I want to look nice, but it is not the same as when I was young. Back in my youth I contemplated every piece that I was putting on. Was it sexy enough? Was it the right image? How would others see me? Today I don't worry about those things today. Comfort comes to mind.

I don't wear nylons anymore. I own several slips and haven't worn one this year. Neither has my wife. I worry more about by bra making my clothes look right than how sexy they are. I guess old age is catching me.

[Vikky]

I love the process of getting dressed and get an inner pleasure with each item of clothing as I choose them from the various boxes I keep them in, check them over and put them on. Doing up a side zip, buttoning a blouse over the boobs, slipping on the shoes, brushing the long wig – all create an inner contentment for me. Just love it.

(I'll have to look up June Cleaver on Google!) Vikky

[Fiona123]

I get a physical thrill and feeling of emotional well being from dressing. Stevie is on to something though, there is also a thrill with the fantasy of emasculation. 🌺

[Scarlett398]

I love the entire process as well, Vikky. Although putting on the makeup and taking if off, especially taking it off can be a bit too time consuming. Putting it on, if you really want to look like a girl, is exciting and takes a lot of time. It also takes much time, study, and practice to get really good at it. The study of professional videos on how to apply makeup, especially the eye makeup, is essential. You also have to have a really good collection of brushes to apply and help to smooth out the lines associated with eye makeup. From what I've seen, which is very limited, this seems to be one areas of becoming a girl that a lot of guys may not spend enough time studying and practicing. The key is don't overdo it. Especially with the blush and eye makeup. Like I noted earlier, it really takes much time, practice, and energy to become a pro at applying makeup. Finger nail polish isn't easy to get great at fast either. I think I have it down pat now. The worst part of the entire CD process to me is the removal of the finger nail polish. I usually use the finger nail polish remover with cotton balls or tissue and then use on good strong black bristled nail brush to put the finger nail polish on to remove the rest of the polish that seeps into the areas around the nails while removing the polish. But I really enjoy picking out my outfits for my photo shoots I perform my self with a really good Nikon on a tripod using the self timer. Oh yeah, back to eye makeup, I also look at photos in magazines of girls in makeup ads. Those photos help quite a bit as well. Back to the dressing, I love putting on the undergarments, the opaque brown and black tights with the riding boots, skater skirts, and long sleeved scoop and V neck knit tops. Putting on the tasteful jewelry that goes really well with the outfit and not overdone as well. Putting on the wide elastic belts with the faux diamonds accenting the front and buckle of the belts and the belts match the boots or booties. The dressing process is fun, exciting, exhilarating, sensual, and afterwards relaxing. Well, that's it for now. I had a great time on Thursday for about six hours doing the dressing. I was a blast! That's it, gotta go...Scarlett

[Marcelo]

Wow, I was almost excited to share what happened several weeks ago at my first event to attend dressed since almost two years ago. But since this is not about that...

I really enjoy working obstacle runs as well as 5K runs. When I go in DRAB I pull my humorous comments out and have fun with the participants. When dressed as Marcy I do the same but it's a lot funner for me and the participants. I worked two events the past two weekends with The Great Inflatable Race and yesterday I stopped at an unmanned obstacle (I did the race as Marcy in my cheerleader uniform) and tended it until the last group went through. I did the usual posing for pics with many and even did my Beerkats cheer (hopefully it will show up on YouTube) twice. It was really fun and most were really entertained by it.

I'm working the Tough Mudder race this coming weekend and I know it's too serious (we wear volunteer shirts to be easily identified for emergencies) to go as Marcy but if I could I would do it. I considered cancelling my volunteer shift and paying the $20 to go as a spectator but this one is my big one.

I have a few more events that I'm already signed up to volunteer with and have the go ahead to show up as Marcy. It's gonna be fun!

[GeorgeA]

There is probably something wrong with me but I don't want to be a woman. I really don't care if I look or act like one. I just want to wear the clothes.

I'm with you, Tracy.

[CherylFlint]

Good post.
And if it takes a June Cleaver to get it done, then I’m all for it.
I feel the same way. The building-up the excitement when dressing, and then the last touch: the wig when it all comes together.
And then I go out to the mall and walk around: window shop.
Every time is a blast.
Never had so much fun.

[Kathie Pantyhose]

I simply enjoy the clothes for some reason. I can't understand why men can't wear skirts and not call them kilts. I love getting dressed each day I can. I even love just putting clear polish on my toes or finger nails. I always wear panties which was interesting for a couple of hospital visits a few years back. I love the act of sunning my legs in a pair of 3" shorts on my back patio or just throwing the ball with the dog in the back yard after a run while wearing a skirt. I sleep in woman's sleep shorts and panties each night too. The act of simply dressing is good enough for me most days. I love getting dressed and cleaning the house too for some reason. I'd love to start a "club" of sorts here in Boulder for similar mind sets to just be able to get together and share. I'm definitely happier when dressed fem. It definitely is a form of "self pleasure".

[MelanieAnne]

Many crossdressers (men who dress as women, not transwomen who claim dual status) acquired our attractions, preferences, images, fantasies, and fetishes from times long ago, and the fashions of those times.

Absolutely! When women looked like women. And before they started wearing pantsuits, sweats and sneakers. When I get all dolled up, nylons, heels, makeup, and a nice short dress, and look in the mirror, I always ask myself, "why can't women dress this way anymore"?


Women are supposed to have choices today

Why can't men have choices today?:eek:

[Brandy Mathews]

Dee,
Yes, you are exactly right. It is all of that and more for me. I think that is is amazing how the little things mean so much to us, at least to me. And yes, I remember the first time that I wore a pair of panty hose and even a bra. Such a different feeling now but still very nice.
Bree :)

[wanda66]

I wear what makes me feel comfortable. I do enjoy the the feeling of freedom it gives me, real or imagine it makes no difference . I do enjoy seeing the transition from the outside person to the guy who likes doing his hair and wearing silky things ,ear rings and a little make up. It does excite me. Emasculated, i don't think so.......

[Staci G]

I could change pantyhose several times and enjoy every single time. It is probably the favorite part of getting dressed.

[MelanieAnne]

If you want to see pretty women wearing dresses, nylons and heels, and long hair, just watch the Lawrence Welk Show reruns on PBS. All those women are very attractive, dress like women we used to know, but are not trashy like so many current entertainers, Madonna, Lady Gaga, etc.

[dolovewell]

Absolutely! When women looked like women. And before they started wearing pantsuits, sweats and sneakers. When I get all dolled up, nylons, heels, makeup, and a nice short dress, and look in the mirror, I always ask myself, "why can't women dress this way anymore"?


People dress like women they grew up admiring. I dress like other women my age. Jeans, t shirts/blouses, and boots are the 3 staples, occassional dress or skirt.

Lots of people on this board prefer the June Cleaver look because thats when they grew up and therefore they admired how women dressed from that area.

Myself I have no interest in nylons, slips, garters, girdles, corsets, or any of that stuff which were more common decades ago. But thats because I am still in my 20s and never really saw women wearing that type of stuff.

[Lana Mae]

I get a lot of pleasure from dressing. I do not have a wig or makeup but the thing that completes the current look is the earrings. There is a certain feeling when they are placed on my ears. Now, I expect that feeling to be heightened when I get the wig and makeup. Hugs Lana Mae

[Krisi]

I get pleasure out of imitating a woman or I wouldn't do it. I don't understand why I get that pleasure but I don't really care.

I dress like a contemporary woman, the woman I would be if I had been born female. I seldom wear pantyhose or heels and when I do wear heals they are 3" pumps, not "hooker heels".

[irene9999]

I get pleasure getting dressed and watching everything come together, I love looking into the mirror and seeing myself dolled up. As for the garter/stocking, not really my thing, I prefer bare shaved legs and a dress or pantyhose when te weather is cooler

[phili]

I get a lot of pleasure out of it all. Sometimes I think it is a low level sexual arousal that kind of drugs me, and another pleasure is liking how I look, of the adventure, breaking out of the drab mold, achieving looks I always wanted, feelking in new ways when I interact with others- it is all pleasure.

The pain arrives after when my wife arrives, who so far is rejecting of my happiness, as it conflicts with what she wants and needs, her pleasures, etc. We're haven't got a good method of working on it yet.

[Lorna]

It is quite true that many of us (including me) hark back a long way to the era of skirts, dresses, slips, stockings and "proper" underwear...but that doesn't necessarily mean we get pleasure only from the clothes of that period. Over the years I have enjoyed trying different styles and levels of dressing, though I have to say that trousers or shorts - even if definitely designed for women - are of no interest to me because they are, in my mind, no different from my male clothes. I have tried going bare-legged and can see that, in the right circumstances, that can be enjoyable, but my legs definitely look much better in hosiery and the hosiery always feels good - pleasurable - and feminine. I have always been keen to try to find out what women's clothes feel like and have sampled everything from being very firmly trussed up in high-waist girdle, long line bra, suspenders and non-stretch stockings through being teen-like in a light, easy skirt, lacy bra, gentle suspender belt and stretch nylons to mini-skirt and tights. I can very well understand why women chose to escape from the heavy clothes, especially the foundations, of the 1950s and 60s but let's not forget that back in those decades women thought they were enjoying great freedom compared with their mothers and grandmothers who had had to endure corsets, long skirts and numerous layers of petticoats. My pleasure has come from being able to experience whichever of these styles and periods I have fancied at the time but, without a doubt, the pleasure is greatest in those mid-20th century clothes.

[TrishaLake]

I love to shop for female clothes that is my true favorite thing. Its just great to get it home, try it on and the look and a feel.

[phili]

Just another comment- I have been doing what Lorna is doing-sampling all the things I was curious about- and the pleasure I imagined from most of it is there: the sensual feelings, the approving looks I give myself or get from others, the pleasure of finding out and resolving all-important questions-[lol] i.e. how does a garter belt feel over a day when out and about, and the pleasure of relief from so many restrictions so I feel as if my blood even circulates more freely.