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Majella St Gerard
10-14-2016, 01:52 PM
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this is one of my favorite skirts and I just love these boots.

Tracy Irving
10-14-2016, 01:54 PM
Those are great boots!

Evana
10-14-2016, 02:12 PM
Baby, these boots are made for walking...

Alice_2014_B
10-14-2016, 05:11 PM
Very hot Majella!
Love the miniskirt!
Boots are killer!
:)

Dana44
10-14-2016, 05:16 PM
Giddy up giddy up rawhide. Yeah Majelle. Great outfit.

Lana Mae
10-14-2016, 07:35 PM
Looking good. Like the boots. Good pic. Hugs Lana Mae

Sara Jessica
10-14-2016, 08:45 PM
I think it's awesome that you felt at ease at the mall but if I recall correct, I was of the opinion that the way you described your outfit, it wasn't so blendy. The picture confirms. That isn't a bad thing, I just can't think of the last time I saw a woman in such an outfit at a mall.

DIANEF
10-14-2016, 09:12 PM
Nice outfit and you look fab but I wonder how many GGs would go shopping dressed like that (just my two pennies worth)

Jessica86
10-15-2016, 11:17 AM
^^ They do here in Texas

I love the boots. Am I the only one who noticed that purse? How cute!!! I want one!

donnatracey
10-15-2016, 10:59 PM
Really? Guess I need to get out and shop more....def in the minority from my experience. Of course, I'm not a big fan of boots anyway...(not a native Texan!)

VeronicaMoonlit
10-16-2016, 10:53 AM
I think it's awesome that you felt at ease at the mall but if I recall correct, I was of the opinion that the way you described your outfit, it wasn't so blendy.

She also described double takes which is tobe expected with an outfit that is more "sex worker" than blendy.

That is NOT a blendy outfit, mostly because of that skirt. I've said it before and I'll say it again, supershort and tight does the typical man's body no favors. a short a-line would have been a better choice or a slightly above knee skirt, after all it is october even in Texas.

But another thing, there is a metric bleepton of resources out there to help people figure out fashion and makeup....so why don't more CD's use them better! Books, magazines, youtube, bloggers.
Why not take cues from the over 40 fashionistas out there like:

http://www.jolynneshane.com/

or:

http://susanafter60.com/

One doesn't need to wear a micro-miniskirt and show stocking tops to look great. Now if you're going to a club, then you can pull out the micro-skirt....but the mall?

There's CD's who dress well and dress pretty much exactly like well dressed women their age do, we all see them and they look fabulous. Why don't more CD's emulate their example.

I know that CD's aren't all "playing the same game" if you don't go out, you can wear whatever you want...but for those that DO go out wouldn't you rather look fashionable and elegant rather than.....tacky.

And what's with all the crappy blonde wigs on those with DARK brows! Wigs closer to your own natural haircolor are more flattering!

Veronica

dolovewell
10-16-2016, 04:17 PM
Preach Veronica... I agree with your post 100%.

I am still relatively young, so I can get away with shorter skirts and dresses and skimpier outfits, yet I don't, because I would rather dress appropriately for where I am going. When I go out I go to places like malls, grocery stores, restaurants. Why would I wear a short skirt to those places? The only appropriate place for that in my opinion would be a club or bar or music venue, which I have no interest in going to dressed up.

You can be cute and feminine while still being relatively modest and appropriate.

We all go through that phase though. I know I went through a phase where I was all about the short skirts and skin tight dresses. I went to a mall one time with a short white skirt and heels and it didn't take me too long to realize how inappropriate it was for the setting. I went into a store and the SA said "Can I help you" to me while laughing. I don't want negative attention like that.

DonnaP
10-16-2016, 07:30 PM
I guess I like the whole outfit very hot and I'm sure you turned a fair amount of heads. Go with what ever you are comfortable with.

docrobbysherry
10-17-2016, 12:57 AM
Good for u, Majella! I equate dressing to blend to having a root canal!:doh:

Which is why I don't go to vanilla venues dressed unless forced to.

Glad someone has the guts to dress to suit yourself and not strangers. Sadly, I don't-----:sad:

Beverley Sims
10-17-2016, 08:33 AM
Like everyone else, love the boots.

I would only wear that outfit if I wanted to look inconspicuous. :-)

If it works, do it!

Majella St Gerard
10-17-2016, 05:25 PM
"SEX WORKER" REALLY NOW. You old ladies dress the way you want. I looked and felt great. At least I don't hidein the closet and tell other people how to present.

Tracii G
10-17-2016, 05:35 PM
I liked the outfit and didn't think it was too over the top.
Hard to tell from the pic but if you are like many of us the onlookers can realize its a man and not a woman(beard shadow) so that could make the regular people think maybe not so nice thoughts about you.
Deff a great clubbing outfit tho'.
I'm no expert or have a womanly figure to pull off an outfit like that but I'll never tell you how to dress.

Kiersten
10-17-2016, 07:49 PM
Love the boots!

CherylFlint
10-18-2016, 12:51 AM
Nice job.
Nice boots!

Sara Jessica
10-18-2016, 08:35 AM
This brings to mind the longstanding question in these pages. When you put yourself out there, does anyone expect constructive criticism or is it all about "you go girl" while blowing pink fog up you-know-where.

Kind of a common theme here...


Deff a great clubbing outfit tho'.


I am still relatively young, so I can get away with shorter skirts and dresses and skimpier outfits, yet I don't, because I would rather dress appropriately for where I am going. When I go out I go to places like malls, grocery stores, restaurants. Why would I wear a short skirt to those places? The only appropriate place for that in my opinion would be a club or bar or music venue, which I have no interest in going to dressed up.

You can be cute and feminine while still being relatively modest and appropriate.

We all go through that phase though. I know I went through a phase where I was all about the short skirts and skin tight dresses.


That is NOT a blendy outfit, mostly because of that skirt. I've said it before and I'll say it again, supershort and tight does the typical man's body no favors. a short a-line would have been a better choice or a slightly above knee skirt, after all it is october even in Texas.

Now if you're going to a club, then you can pull out the micro-skirt....but the mall?

Heck, your original post that got this started (first trip to the mall) wouldn't have gotten my response had it said "first trip to a club". I admit, I enjoy seeing what others perceive as their go-to when first venturing out into the mainstream because quite often, they not only miss the bullseye but the target altogether. It takes me back to my first times out & about mainstream in my early-to-mid 20's when I'm sure I was an absolute train wreck. Fortunately, my memory has purged most of the fashion-failure details and no photographic evidence exists but one thing I'm sure of, after the fact I had the same air of confidence and who-cares that you have now. I was just oblivious to how overcooked I was.

Thing is, Veronica makes a good point about how many resources are out there which can help us be the best we can be when venturing out into this wonderful world of ours. It has nothing to do with conformity. It all has to do with your stated goals. When you say blend to describe your day, that tells me that blending in must be of some importance to you. There is so much information available that the mistakes I made 20+ years ago shouldn't need to be repeated now.

Many of us, myself included, will continue to make mistakes given that we are part time in presentation to the outside world. We lack the 24/7/365 feminine experience that helps most women present to the world so effortlessly, not to mention they are not trying to hide or minimize a myriad of freakin' masculine giveaways that can be difficult or impossible for us to avoid fully. We sometimes fall victim to that "TG MIRROR" which tells us we're all that when really, we're not, at least for out & about in primetime.

dolovewell
10-18-2016, 09:12 AM
Sara Jessica, I agree. I think we are doing each other a disservice if we do not give constructive criticism, especially when it is warranted. Hug boxing is fine and all, but, if you see something that you think could be fixed, say something.

I credit the biggest leaps in improvement to constructive criticism I received over the years. If someone wasn't bold enough to give me the constructive criticism, I would have never improved and still be making the same mistakes.

I understand that posting pictures can be a sensitive area, and that not everyone is ready to hear the truth. But, realize that if you get constructive criticism, its not because we are haters or are being mean, its because we genuinely want to give advice that will help you improve.

Like I said - we all go through that phase. I know I did. I remember buying this short gold sequined mini skirt from Forever 21. It would look really cute... for a 16 year old going to a high school party. But me at the time, a 26 year old, 6 feet tall crossdresser? Where the hell would it make sense for me to wear it outside the privacy of my own apartment? I never wore it one time, and took it back. It was this moment in which it became clear that while a piece of clothing may look "hot", if I am going to get no use out of it other than wearing it in my own apartment, I really don't see the point. Wearing that sequin skirt out in public would have just garnered a slew of negative attention, and not because I am a crossdresser. A GG wearing that skirt out in public would have received negative attention as well unless she was going to a party or club.

It's not just clothes either. What about shoes? When you are out and about count how many women are wearing 3+ inch heels, or heels period. Not many. You see more boots and flats and sneakers. Nothing wrong with heels but there is a time and place for them.

VeronicaMoonlit
10-18-2016, 10:59 AM
You can be cute and feminine while still being relatively modest and appropriate.

Right.


I went into a store and the SA said "Can I help you" to me while laughing. I don't want negative attention like that.

Which is why I said what I did, the OP mentioned in the original thread that she got double-takes.


Good for u, Majella! I equate dressing to blend to having a root canal!:doh:

The problem being, Doc, that Majella called the outfit blendy...which it isn't.


Which is why I don't go to vanilla venues dressed unless forced to.

And she was wearing said outfit to a vanilla venue.



Glad someone has the guts to dress to suit yourself and not strangers.

Whether we like it or not, there are unspoken "rules" of what should be worn to where. And when we break the rules, it can garner us more negative attention than most of us want.


"SEX WORKER" REALLY NOW.

Yes, really. You could find outfits like that worn by many a trans "Working girl" in any big city.


You old ladies dress the way you want.

You're 53, I checked, and I'm 49. Did you see any other women near your age dressed like that at the mall? No?


At least I don't hidein the closet

I first went out in public back in 2001, 15 years ago.


and tell other people how to present.

I didn't tell you how to dress. What I told you was that outfit wasn't blendy! If you wanted to be blendy why did you wear THAT? And then I suggested taking fashion cues from well dressed women nearer your age. Even for club wear I would think that there are better choices for a 53 year old that are still sexy.....but a better kind of sexy that is more likely to receive honest compliments on ones sense of style. After all, we are not 19 year old college girls, wearing what they do to clubs can look ridiculous on older women. (Including CD's)

http://www.fabulousafter40.com/las-vegas-bound-but-what-to-wear-when-your-over-40-or-50/


I liked the outfit and didn't think it was too over the top.

Really, for the mall?


This brings to mind the longstanding question in these pages. When you put yourself out there, does anyone expect constructive criticism or is it all about "you go girl" while blowing pink fog up you-know-where.

Kind of a common theme here...

Indeed.


I admit, I enjoy seeing what others perceive as their go-to when first venturing out into the mainstream because quite often, they not only miss the bullseye but the target altogether.

Yes, that happens.


It takes me back to my first times out & about mainstream in my early-to-mid 20's when I'm sure I was an absolute train wreck. Fortunately, my memory has purged most of the fashion-failure details and no photographic evidence exists but one thing I'm sure of, after the fact I had the same air of confidence and who-cares that you have now. I was just oblivious to how overcooked I was.

My weakness early on was makeup, not fashion, but I got better with makeup very quickly. My first time out involved a sweater (cowl necked), skirt (that came just below my knees) and boots that was perfect for a plus-size-fall-fashionista look. I wanted to look as much like a well dressed woman of my age and build as I could.


Thing is, Veronica makes a good point about how many resources are out there which can help us be the best we can be when venturing out into this wonderful world of ours. It has nothing to do with conformity. It all has to do with your stated goals. When you say blend to describe your day, that tells me that blending in must be of some importance to you. There is so much information available that the mistakes I made 20+ years ago shouldn't need to be repeated now.

Exactly. If one talks about blending and wanting to blend and then obviously makes the choice to NOT blend, it just makes me have a bit of a confused moment.


Many of us, myself included, will continue to make mistakes given that we are part time in presentation to the outside world.

That is true.


We lack the 24/7/365 feminine experience that helps most women present to the world so effortlessly, not to mention they are not trying to hide or minimize a myriad of freakin' masculine giveaways that can be difficult or impossible for us to avoid fully. We sometimes fall victim to that "TG MIRROR" which tells us we're all that when really, we're not, at least for out & about in primetime.

It's not effortless, even for "GG's", but they start learning what they need to know earlier than most of transfolk do. But as I said, there are lots of resources out there that transfolk can take advantage of.

And also...what dolovewell said. I'm 49 years old...I probably shouldn't be shopping at Forever21 or Torrid, as cute as some of their things are, but rather J Jill, or Talbots.

Veronica

Tracii G
10-18-2016, 11:11 AM
If a GG was in that outfit at the mall it would not be a big deal Veronica you know it and everyone else here knows it.
She can wear what she wants just as you can look like June Cleaver in your clothing choices if that is what you like.
If you don't like her choice thats fine I'm sure there are plenty here that don't like your clothing choices but they don't reprimand you for it do they?

VeronicaMoonlit
10-18-2016, 11:38 AM
If a GG was in that outfit at the mall it would not be a big deal Veronica you know it and everyone else here knows it.

Don't bullshit me. You know exactly what would happen if a 53 year old GG..and I'm not talking some "plastic surgery addict upper-class real houswife of the OC type" 53 year old but the average wrinkly saggy 53 year old went walking down the mall in that doing the "mutton as lamb" thing. There would be pointing, staring, laughing and comments behind her back. Now imagine a 53 year old CD, it would be worse. Like it or not CD's (and transfolk in general) are judged more harshly by society as a whole by breaking the rules of fashion.


She can wear what she wants just as you can look like June Cleaver in your clothing choices if that is what you like.

Sure she can wear what she wants, but she is NOT immune from the negative attention her choices might bring to her.


If you don't like her choice thats fine I'm sure there are plenty here that don't like your clothing choices but they don't reprimand you for it do they?

It was a bad choice for what she believed was a "Blendy" outfit, she'd have been better off taking fashion cues from YOU, because you are actually blendy. Whether I like or dislike the outfit isn't really the thing. The thing is, that specific outfit is more likely to garner negative attention when worn at a mall by a CD. I want to prevent future such negative attention by encouraging CD's to not make similar fashion mistakes.

Most CD's here say they want to look like women. How about we ask the GG's what they think about that outfit and whether it was blendy or not for a 53 year old CD. You and I both know what they'll say.

Veronica

Majella St Gerard
10-18-2016, 11:57 AM
Well Veronica the only negative comments I received were on this site. Everyone I came in contact with complimented me on my clothes, boots, legs and my bad blonde wig. And I aint no saggy old 53 year old. I wasn't out flouncing around drawing attention to myself. Yeah I turned some heads, because I looked good. I live in Dirty Myrtle Beach, the Red Neck Riveria and believe me I was overdressed for this town. Not everyone likes to dress like a librarian. So keep your negativity and holier than thou attitude to yourself.

Kathie Pantyhose
10-18-2016, 12:07 PM
Great outfit. Wish I had the courage to go out dressed. All I get up the courage to do is drive in to the mountains, find a secluded place and have lunch or read a book with a nice mountain breeze up skirt or dress. Or I go in my backyard which during the summer months is nothing but full trees for some nice privacy.

Lorileah
10-18-2016, 12:18 PM
If a GG was in that outfit at the mall it would not be a big deal Veronica you know it and everyone else here knows it.

Agree

Starting tomorrow all you who think that outfit was too provocative will be required to wear nothing but old sweat pants and a dowdy sweater. Here in the upper fashion malls that would be seen. Now for those of you who called her a sex worker, repeat after me "In MY day a woman woulds NEVER leave the house with her knees showing..."

Majella St Gerard
10-18-2016, 12:26 PM
I would also like to say thank you to all of you for your kind and supportive remarks.

ellbee
10-18-2016, 01:17 PM
I really don't want to jump in this thread, but... :D


I will say that there are definitely some regional differences across the country (and world) when it comes to fashion. What might look out-of-place in one area, might actually not be so bad in another.

I honestly don't know in this case what GG's may or may not wear at a particular time of day/night to this particular mall in this particular geographic area.


Would I personally wear that? No. But it really doesn't matter.

Heck, some would say what I wear is boring & "not for them." Just last night, for example, I was out shopping in guy-mode -- yet wearing 5 out of 6 fem things. I did it in a way specifically to blend *as a guy*. Talk about a challenge. :laughing:


Since my public-dressing is coming out of a recent slumber, I've been taking this as a new learning opportunity & experimentation when it comes to fashion, putting a different spin on it & going about it in a fairly unique way, which I feel will help me in a positive way. Not to say that I didn't used to dress pretty well in the past, but typically it was a lot more obvious fem. Anyway, now that I'm doing this again, I try to keep a keen ear & eye out for any sort of reaction from others (but in a non-sketchy way, LOL). And last night at multiple locations? Nothing that I was aware of. I think I did pretty good with my look. :thumbsup:

But the really weird thing? I could easily slap on some padding, wig & make-up while wearing that same outfit -- and totally look like regular GG! Yes, it would be quite blendable (and if I got in even better shape, perhaps even passable in certain instances). And I don't think I would attract all that much attention.


Anyway, my suggestion for anyone & everyone is to never stop learning about fashion. Not only what works for GG's & what doesn't, but since we are obviously *not* GG's, that we need to factor in some additional tweaks which are more appropriate for ourselves, as well. :)

Tracii G
10-18-2016, 01:34 PM
Wearing a selection of femme items in guy mode is no big deal I have been doing it daily for 7 years and its no big deal Laura as you are finding out on your journey.
I think its pretty nasty to come out and bash someone as harshly as V did to Majella just because she didn't approve of the outfit for the venue.
Veronica you need to come to Kentucky to Keeneland horse racing track and look at some of the wealthy older ladies in their 60's and 70's and how they dress.
They still look good trust me and have the moxie to wear mini skirts.
I love to watch them go to the betting windows and drop several hundred thousand dollars on their own horse wearing designer outfits not much different than that.

Sara Jessica
10-18-2016, 10:34 PM
If a GG was in that outfit at the mall it would not be a big deal Veronica you know it and everyone else here knows it.


If a woman was wearing that outfit at the mall, she'd likely be 19.

Didn't I hear you espousing the virtues of said outfit at a club???


Deff a great clubbing outfit tho'.

Thought so. Opinions change toward the defensive as the tenor of the conversation goes.

No one is saying said outfit isn't fab. I certainly didn't say so, one way or another. My opinion of the outfit itself is completely irrelevant. It just isn't a look that even remotely blends in. Even here in progressive/fashion-forward SoCal, that ain't gonna fly on a 40-something+ woman, let alone a 40-something+ TG woman, let alone one who is 50+.

Again, there is a school of thought here that says we are all rule-breakers so to heck with them all. Pants or jeans with flats, perish the thought. And that is all good and fine. But I'll say this much. I know too many full time women who are living this 24/7/365 that I have vowed never to make anything more dicey for anyone who is full time who might follow in my wake. This is one reason why I pay attention to what other women wear when it comes to time/place/weather/event/etc. You know the saying, when in Rome...

No one is saying we have to dress like librarians. But that isn't really the point. The outfit as pictured is rather provocative rather than being simply overdressed. Everyone here has heard the stereotypical joke, the micro-mini/fishnets/heels at the mall...well I think we have at least one of those elements here. Over-the-knee boots may be all the rage but I'm not seeing them on women over 25 and I would add that as a key element which makes the entire look more provocative, i.e. - more for clubbing than the mall. Like it or not, Veronica was right when she pointed out there are ways for women of a certain age to show off plenty of sex appeal while remaining absolutely classy.

And good gosh, this was a first time outing to a mall. It should only go up from here. Many of us who have been there/done that will attest to that fact.

Tracii G
10-19-2016, 12:45 AM
Sara I was consistent in my comments and I can change my views on things if need be.
I'm done with this thread because a few are getting mean,snotty and think their way is the only way.
I don't see why people have to be so nasty to each other.

AnnaMarie
10-19-2016, 01:30 AM
I'm glad this thread came up. I'm friends with a number of cross dressers in a private little group and I raised a question yesterday regarding how we just send praise to someone who posts a photograph and say how good they look, when we should really be providing something constructive to help them improve how they look and how they are perceived by others around them. Everyone in our little group helps each other and we don't just say 'wow, you look great girl'. It's more about 'yes, good, but you could do with thinning those eyebrows just a little', or 'hmm, great to wear indoors, but that dress is a little short on you for your figure'. If we are ever going to accepted completely in the world and not stereotyped as a bloke in a frock four sizes too small in heels they can't stand on then we should provide and take constructive criticism. Our bathroom mirrors are without question rose tinted that's why others need to help! I've lots of dresses that I'd wear at home or in a club, but not in the high street.

One of my closest friends is out and about everyday now, fully dressed as a girl and blends perfectly within her surroundings and rarely does she ever get read. The reason is she wears what is appropriate for where she is and her age. About 8 months ago we both went out shopping and she got read within 5 minutes. How things change and that's through improvement from helping each other.

So, take criticism when it's offered, don't be offended by it, it's there to help you improve your look as I'm sure anything nasty would be stamped on be the mods!

As for you outfit - I love the boots and bag I really do and they are something that I would happily wear (although I'm not sure where) but they would be quite outgoing even for a GG. In my local town you wouldn't get away with the short skirt without getting lots of the (Wrong) attention regardless of age. However in my nearest big city which is a whole lot more cosmopolitan you wouldn't stand out that much.

I think we need to look at our body shapes (which aren't anything like a GG), work with what we've got and dress appropriately - balancing our wide shoulders with our hips is a good start. Aiming to disguise our longer arms, large hands, large jawlines etc.

Sara Jessica
10-19-2016, 08:20 AM
Very nicely said Anna Marie in defense of constructive criticism.


Sara I was consistent in my comments and I can change my views on things if need be.
I'm done with this thread because a few are getting mean,snotty and think their way is the only way.
I don't see why people have to be so nasty to each other.

Tracii, I was just trying to reconcile how your opinion went from clubbing outfit to full defense of mall-appropriate. At the end of the day, yours and mine are just that, opinions which happen to differ. Sorry you feel a need to pick up your marbles and go home, I thought you added something productive to this discussion.


And all of this got me thinking more about over-the-knee boots. It wasn't right for me to say that women over 25 aren't wearing these. It's just that I feel as if I've seen more of these in stores than actually being worn by people in the wild. And it's not as if no women are buying them, this is at least the second or third fall season where they've been "the rage". But the rage with whom and where are they wearing them??? Most/all of the well known uber-designers are making these (Jimmy Choo/CL/Manolo Blahnik, Weitzman, etc). Do an image search for any of these and those who are depicted in real life situations are either presenting very edgy or very casual (ie- with jeans or leggings). The common theme appears to be these models are quite young which doesn't really say much about the real world. Still, I'm going to keep my eyes open when in Rome to see how pervasive this style really is outside of the club scene.

Bringing this full circle, having over-thought this whole thing, my sole issue is with the micro-mini. I'm thinking that jeans would have made the outfit rather blendable and perhaps not even debatable as to age-appropriateness. Not that I'm getting a sense that OP is even remotely interested in constructive comments regardless of how many have been presented in this thread.

Majella St Gerard
10-19-2016, 08:37 AM
The Fashion Police have spoken.

dolovewell
10-19-2016, 08:41 AM
AnnaMarie to expand on your first paragraph about constructive criticism I think as crossdressers we owe it to eachother to dress and act appropriate. At the same time I am against following a set of rules when it comes to crossdressing - its your life, its a free country, do what you want. But with crossdressing comes responsibility. I posted in another thread, that when I was working at Victoria's Secret, we had a hairy man come in wearing a swimsuit bikini. You think he improved or hurt the image and perception of crossdressers by those who saw him? Because this guy decided to cross the line, he damaged the reputation of crossdressers among those who saw him. Obviously this is an extreme example and I am not saying the OP's outfit damaged the reputation of crossdressers, but my point is, be mindful. As a crossdresser I don't want to be stereotyped and lumped in with those who don't dress appropriately.

It's not just dressing, its behavior as well. As a Victoria's Secret employee most of our MTF crossdresser/trans customers were polite, respectful, and dressed well. But we'd get the occasional creep/pervert. Like the guy who would walk around and ask all the employees what panties they were wearing. Really? He tried to justify it by saying he is looking for recommendations. Nice try. Outfit wise, he was presentable and appropriate. But what came out of his mouth is what ruined it for him. You think he improved or damage the reputation of crossdressers amongst the SAs he creeped on? He ruined it for the rest of us who behave.

Moral of the story, if you want to improve the image and reputation of crossdressers and tear down stereotypes, be mindful of what you are doing and wearing.
. I don't see anyone being mean in this thread, I see people who are just trying to give you advice that would be in your best interest. Like I said, there are no rules, its your life, its a free country, do what you want. The only person's opinion you should care about is your own. But at the same time, I would advise against deflecting any constructive criticism. A couple years ago when I started crossdressing I made a post to the MakeupAddiction subreddit on reddit and got nearly a thousand comments all giving advice. I had to take a week off to digest it all. Some of the advice I got was pretty harsh, but it was accurate. What if I had just dismissed it all and called them nazis? I'd never have improved or taken a step forward. I'd still be wearing the same crappy wig that many commenters pointed out, I'd still be making the same eyeliner mistakes and foundation shade mistakes and eyebrow mistakes and lip mistakes and not contouring my nose and tons of other advice I got. At least give the advice a chance. Posting to MUA and getting the constructive criticism I got was the single best crossdressing decision I ever made, so of course I am going to defend those who give constructive criticism.

ellbee
10-19-2016, 10:02 AM
Well, I'm going to throw something specific out there...


I personally stay away from a white top. Always. It's a huge no-no for me. Why? Because it makes me look top-heavy.

Some GG's can get away with it, while many can't. And I feel the same holds true for CD'ers, especially considering we have a male upper-body.



Just a link I quickly & easily pulled up via Google, which talks about which colors, for example, do what for someone...


LOOK AT THE COLOR

HIGH-FAT Neons, bright primary colors, pastels, white.

LOW-FAT Darker hues — navy, brown, charcoal, olive, burgundy, gray.

NO-FAT Black, but a closetful of black clothes is so depressing. Try to limit your black purchases to anywhere you have body issues.


http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/fashion/clothes-fat-10-pounds-thinner-changing-clothes-article-1.174943


Yes, for tops, I stick with low-fat & no-fat, thanks. :o :laughing:

Krisi
10-19-2016, 11:26 AM
When you post a photo (or text) that can be controversial, it's unrealistic to expect that nobody will have a different opinion. If you didn't want anything but praise, you should have stated this in your original post.

Obviously, you are proud of your outfit or you wouldn't have taken a photo and posted it on the Internet. Some folks here honestly believe that your outfit was a bit outrageous for someone your age to wear to a shopping mall (especially a crossdresser) and I am in that group.

There are no "fashion police" and you can wear what you want, when and where you want. You just need to understand that not everyone will believe it is appropriate for the time and place.

The bottom line is, if it is your intention to call attention to yourself in public as a crossdresser, that outfit will do that pretty well. If you are trying to blend in as a woman at the mall, you need to tone it down. Way down. Your choice.

Valery L
10-19-2016, 03:12 PM
Dress as you want. It is your decision. Everybody should be able to dress or to do whatever they want as long as they are not hurting anyone. However, I think that some criticism can be useful and well-intentioned. I do not feel disturbed or offended by your look. However, I think it is inappropriate in the sense that you will certainly receive undesired attention, so my comment has the intention to just give some advice about what you might face by dressing like that, even when I do not see anything wrong about it, I know that there are people who do it. Ideally, nobody would care about your presentation, that is the way it should be, but sadly it is not the case, even when I want to think the opposite. I do not want to justify people who judge or attack others.

Present yourself as you want but be aware about the possible consequences in a world filled with hostile and bigoted people. If you can deal with it, that is perfect and I support you!, but I think that it is a good thing to give and receive honest advice from other people, like other crossdressers in this forum. As long as the critique is not bad intentioned, the advice should be always welcomed.