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Sandy silk
10-24-2016, 06:52 PM
I know this a touchy subject. I have no desire to ever leave the house dressed. The only human who knows Sandy Silk is my wife. I have a moustache, and when made up...I know how I look..and am fine with it...as nobody but my wife will ever see me. I would like to hear from other cross dressers like me.
Have you shaved it off..only to,grow it again. It's such a part of me..I can't imagine parting with my stache. At the same time, my front and back are hairless as are my genitals. Are there any others out there like me?

Micki_Finn
10-24-2016, 07:11 PM
Afraid I can't help you. When I first started I used to just leave the facial hair in place and work around it. Then I actually shaved and OMG the difference! I can't get dressed up now without a clean shave. The facial hair just totally ruins the effect for me, but I like being as passable as possible.

Traci H
10-24-2016, 07:29 PM
I am like you and my mustache is out there hanging on my face as well. I have had it a long time. I did shave it once, and then grew it back. My wife likes it and while I would like to shave it, I think she will see that as me sliding further into the pink fog. It sure does wreck a pretty makeup job, and I am dying to makeup my face to see what I could look like.

Lana Mae
10-24-2016, 07:35 PM
I am like Micki, no facial hair! I shave my chest and upper abdomen not my crotch or back and will be shaving my arms for the first time either this week or next. I have no plans for anyone to see my crotch or back so it makes no difference to me. You will find others on here that are like you, I know they are here. Sorry your first two responses were not what you were looking for. Hugs Lana Mae

HollyGreene
10-24-2016, 07:42 PM
I had a beard and moustache for about 25 years. I'd wanted to shave them off for some time, but my kids didn't like the idea because they'd only ever known me with them.
It is a bit odd seeing somebody dressed as a woman with a full beard and moustache in the mirror, but it didn't really spoil what I got from dressing.

When big bushy beards became fashionable a year ago or so, I said that I didn't want to look like I was part of that fashion, and shaved mine off. They've been gone ever since and it's made my CDing much more satisfying, because now I can go out without having to have my face wrapped in a scarf.

Tracii G
10-24-2016, 07:46 PM
I had a mustache when I first started that had been on lip for 40 years.
It ruined my look so off it came and I have no plans to grow that rats nest back.
If you don't go out then I guess it doesn't matter.

TrishaTX
10-24-2016, 07:48 PM
I have no facial hair and very little hear overall but I understand our point. I am a man obviously and that isn't going to change, I do my best to look like a women but I am not completely passable. I know I look like a man in many ways but I love my look and I am happy. You be too!

Alice_2014_B
10-24-2016, 07:59 PM
I shave everything visible in order to look passable.
However, to each their own.
:)

LydiaL
10-24-2016, 07:59 PM
A few years ago, I let go of keeping any facial hair when I began to explore my femme side. Even during that trans confusion period, I had issues over my attraction/acceptance to a couple of GG's that also had some genetic facial hair issues.

Expect to make a few enemies here. But so be it. If you want to identify as an alternate gender (MTF) lose the facial hair, and a bit more!

If you do not want to shave? OK. But Santa Claus in a skirt with obvious fake boobs does not make my day. L

RADER
10-24-2016, 08:06 PM
I have a "Stash" also, and am well known in my community wearing the "Stash"
I also love to dress, My wife was OK with me dressing, even bought dresses for
me to wear, but around the house only.
We had an agreement to never go out side dressed, And I have kept that agreement.
At 70, I see no reason to change, I would never pass anyway, But I still enjoy the
thrill of getting dressed for the entire day at home.
Rader

Leslie Langford
10-24-2016, 08:17 PM
What does it matter what we think or what the rest of us do when it comes to facial hair in private? Your body (hair), your choice. If you're O.K. presenting as half man/half woman while still sporting that beloved 'stache of yours and are keeping it indoors, who are we to judge, comment, or even compare notes on the experience? What really counts is what your wife thinks of all this, and if she has no problem with it, then you kids go ahead and get crazy with it.

The only issue I would have with this is if you went out in pubic otherwise presenting as a woman, but still proudly showing off that lush facial hair. That would be a jarring visual for most "muggles" (yeah, me included) and would reflect badly on the rest of us as well - you know, the old "guilt by association" thingy. Said "muggles" would likely point, giggle and make rude remarks, and it would just reinforce in their minds the old "pervert", "weirdo", and "fetishistic transvestite" label that we've all struggled so long and hard to put to bed. To be honest, I'd rather not have deal with the prospect encountering that mindset when out in public en femme myself.

AlyssaJ
10-24-2016, 09:06 PM
I just recently shaved off my long standing mustache and goatee. I'm at that point in my life where I really want to visualize the woman inside me in the best way possible. I would like to venture out into public fully dressed and attempt to blend which means losing the facial hair is mandatory. Honestly, I'm not sad to see it go. I was told many times how intimidating I looked. Since ditching the hair I look younger and more approachable. Obviously for getting made up it makes a huge difference. I also have to admit I don't miss the hairs in my mouth, food in my beard, beard dandruff, and the maintenance headaches of shaving around it and keeping it trimmed.

IamWren
10-24-2016, 09:32 PM
I usually shave my face really close at the beginning of the week and won't touch my razor for a week or more. My whiskers don't grow too fast but by day three they're noticeable. A week and the whiskers are looking rather hipster-esque and ten days is about all I can take before the itching starts to drive me crazy so it all comes off and smooth as a baby's butt again.

I actually have a couple of photos of me with my whiskers and a virtual makeover from an app where I think I look really good. Maybe I'm being delusional. Too each his own... errm, sorry her own. :D

katie_barns
10-24-2016, 10:19 PM
I gave up my mustache that I really like for the ability to go out. Sometimes I miss it, but I enjoy going out dressed way to much. Its gone never to return.

ellbee
10-25-2016, 01:04 AM
I start freaking out if I don't shave my face at least every couple days! :confused3:


The rest of my body I can go a bit longer -- but not by much. :o

EffyJaspers
10-25-2016, 01:41 AM
I have a don't care state of mind to my facial hair, and unregularly shave/trim it according to my whims. Never had a full bear though because it eventually got uncomfortable so i had a reason to shave it. (And if I grew a mustache it looks weird so no mustache unless it comes with a full beard.

franlee
10-25-2016, 02:04 AM
To each his own. I hate facial hair and most of the other too that aint on my head. Being of a lot of Native American ancestry I never had much of a beard or sideburns and until I was put on T-shots I only needed to shave every few days. I never CD with any stubble, it's just my thing that I can't do. But with my complexion and nearly no body hair I have enjoyed the textile sensations as well as the smooth look without all the hassle most men have to go through. But at the risk of stepping on a toe or two going out with facial hair is not a good thing for the CD community IMHO, just draws attention. And I don't personally know anyone that want to standout in a negative way.

Princess Chantal
10-25-2016, 05:37 AM
I tend to let my facial hair grow between dressing periods. The red tint in the hair is to my liking and like how it shows in a goatee. I don't do much crossdressing at home (eventhough nothing stops me from doing it) so it does not happen often that I crossdress with facial hair. However, I have done a couple coffee outings with friends while sporting hair growth and crossdressed in one way or another. At the last event I went to (a fetish themed party) there were several crossdressed folks sporting facial hair, some taking advantage of the beard for some contouring with glitter. At a distance and with the lighting of the bar it was tough to tell that it was actually hair growth.

Krisi
10-25-2016, 07:18 AM
It's going to be very difficult to pass no matter how well you dress if you're sporting a mustache. Even at home, looking in the mirror, if I haven't shaved and applied beard cover, it ruins the image.

It is your choice though so if the bearded lady image works for you, go for it.

Jennifer W
10-25-2016, 10:14 AM
I don't know where I fit in here at all. I don't try to pass. I have a moustache and goatee. I shave the rest of my body.

I wear a bra and panties every day. No one sees those. I wear yoga pants or leggings or women's jeans every day except for summer when I wear shorts. I wear a t-shirt or tank top (mostly women's) every day. In colder weather a sweatshirt over the shirt be it mens or women's. It doesn't matter. I appear in public dressed this way every day.
It has taken me a long time to be comfortable with myself. My wife prefers me to dress drab when we are together. I can live with that request.
I don't want to ruin your fun by being a "pervert" or whatever. I am who I am and that's okay with me.

lynnstar
10-25-2016, 11:17 AM
I too have a beard and mustache. I dont really like the beard but my wife does so unless its for a specific reason such as medical or somthing along that line i am stuck with it. If it wasnt for the wife i wouldnt have one. I would like to try make up but it dosent go to well with facial hair. So for me going out and trying to blend in while dressed anyway isnt possible. Plus my wife hates the idea of me crossdressing anyway. She has told me so in no uncertain terms.

rockerreds
10-25-2016, 11:18 AM
I had a beard that I considered getting trimmed for a long time but I kept getting compliments on it, from both genders (including a 60s rock star, Chad Stuart of Chad And Jeremy!). Last week I finally broke down and had it trimmed very close, I will pass more easily now, especially from a distance.

Kathie Pantyhose
10-25-2016, 11:46 AM
My beard comes and goes as the camping and ski seasons come and go. I never leave it on for too long as it drives me crazy after awhile AND I just don't enjoy looking at myself dressed fem with facial hair. When I do let it grow on my face, I find I dress less (and I'm less happy) or I ignore all mirrors more often. I'm somewhat lucky in the sense I can grow a good beard in a week. I used to be quite "furry" at one point. After 10+ years of epilating from the shoulders down, I find I'm no longer as hairy in those areas luckily. I prefer to NOT have facial hair, even stubble.

NicoleScott
10-25-2016, 12:28 PM
I had facial hair for a few years until I realized I could never achieve the look I wanted, so off it came. I never attempted head-to-toe transformation with facial hair because it just doesn't work. But even with facial hair I still enjoyed exercising my fetishes for high heels and lipstick. Crossdressing got LOTS better with the simple act of shaving. Looking back, I can't imagine why I grew facial hair in the first place, having enjoyed full dress and makeup before.

docrobbysherry
10-25-2016, 01:24 PM
I am wearing a beard and stache in my avatar. In fact, I'm going out to a costume event tonite with a beard and stache. I will look like this: 267916

The nice thing about Halloween is I don't have to take off my masks no matter how long I'm out. So I don't have shave at all!

When I'm not wearing a mask and go out dressed I have to shave it off.:sad:
But, then it grows rite back!:heehee:

IleneD
10-25-2016, 01:40 PM
My beard comes and goes as the camping and ski seasons come and go. .

Ditto here, Kathie.
I'm naturally light bearded, always have been. Don't even have sideburns. (LOL). But I've grown the Colorado beard (goatee). Made me look evil, so said the wife, and it came off after one winter.
BUT!.... in terms of skiing this season (Epic Pass), I'm thinking of doing a few ski days in Femme this season. Looking for a new ski outfit that's quite apart from my usual Mountain Man ski look.

We should share a ski day, or perhaps a lunch on Pearl St Mall.

Richelle423
10-25-2016, 01:46 PM
It doesn't matter if you have facial hair or not. You definitely won't pass. Its about how you feel in womens's clothes and how you feel inside. Thats all that matters

ellbee
10-25-2016, 03:44 PM
I too have a beard and mustache. ... I would like to try make up but it dosent go to well with facial hair.

Well, this video is for you, then... :laughing:


(May or may not contain some bad language. But this is for educational purposes only. :D )


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeWFxrrRasU



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeWFxrrRasU

Heather Chasen
10-25-2016, 04:08 PM
I have had a full beard for 43 years and i've been dressing for 55, i've never thaught about makeup and I will never go out fully dressed, I know that I would just look wierd.
The only time i've been without hair was when I was on chemotherapy and I lost every hair i had, I should have taken up bank robbing cos even my own sister didnt know me but I didnt have the stength,sadly I was too ill to dress as well, For me its the clothes, the feel of them its just so good it makes me feel relaxed and comfortable and happy . So going out for me means only under dressing. We each do what we can.

NicoleScott
10-25-2016, 04:15 PM
... in terms of skiing this season (Epic Pass), I'm thinking of doing a few ski days in Femme this season.

Epic Pass - what an appropriate name for an en femme ski trip.

itsgonnabepretty
10-25-2016, 04:16 PM
For me any sign of facial hair makes me feel awkward. Once of my biggest fears when first dressing up was how my face would look and any sign of hair doomed it for me. Everyone is different in this regard, but I like to have my face extremely smooth.

Tina Davis
10-25-2016, 04:25 PM
I have grown a goatee (slowly) for a few winters as my wife thinks it looks "naughty". I have dressed with it too. But I would never go out dressed with any facial hair and I prefer to keep it smooth as I think I look younger without hair. We'll see what happens this year, I will try to keep my face (and legs) shaved.

Sandy silk
10-25-2016, 06:55 PM
I found the replies so far to be insightful. Just keep in mind that one size does not fit all. Many of us have no desire for a myriad of reasons to ever venture out in public dressed. The stress relief one enjoys from just letting go and being ones self in private is enough for many of us. My wife patiently applies my makeup and chastises me kiddingly that I really "overdo" and even with my stache I enjoy my little private fashion show as I change outfits and wigs. For the first time in my life I progressed from using lingerie as a strict sexual release to now enjoying dressing femme from head to go...with the release of tension...and many times without the sexual arousal. It seems to be working for me.

Vikky
10-26-2016, 10:25 AM
Like others I have a beard and tache and only dress at home with a DADT arrangement. I am OK with the arrangement but if I suddenly found myself single would almost certainly remove the beard and start using make up etc.

On a related subject, there was a piece in the paper recently about a lady who has claimed the Guinness World record for a female beard (6 inches). She has polycystic ovary syndrome, causing an imbalance with hormones and the beard started growing in puberty. After suffering lots of bullying as a teenager, she has decided to keep it and use it to challenge the norms of the female image. She is now in her mid twenties.

Vikky

Traci H
10-26-2016, 12:28 PM
I posted earlier about having a mustache. I very much want to shave it and have started to trim it back more and more. My thought is maybe I can minimize it to the point that removing it is no big deal. Might be wishful thinking. I'd love to start the new year with a canvas to work on.

XdresserAshley
10-26-2016, 01:01 PM
I also rock facial hair (trimmed beard) most months out of the year. I'm currently dressed up at home with a beard. I have no intention to leave my house other than a casual drive dressed up every now and then. Even then, I just look like a guy dressed like a woman and with breasts. It's usually at night so no one really sees me anyways, but it is still thrilling!

emma30
10-26-2016, 01:02 PM
Hi Sandy, early on in my cd life I didn't mind the hair because I saw myself in my minds eye and the facial hair was natural so if I didn't realise it was there it didn't bother me. However I have really got into make up and skin so when I dress as Emma I have to look complete and feel as a woman from top to bottom. I think everyone in our world finds the lovely place they are comfortable with either way. There's no right or wrong as I see it.

Stephanie Voorhees
10-26-2016, 05:24 PM
The only issue I would have with this is if you went out in pubic otherwise presenting as a woman, but still proudly showing off that lush facial hair. That would be a jarring visual for most "muggles" (yeah, me included) and would reflect badly on the rest of us as well - you know, the old "guilt by association" thingy. Said "muggles" would likely point, giggle and make rude remarks, and it would just reinforce in their minds the old "pervert", "weirdo", and "fetishistic transvestite" label that we've all struggled so long and hard to put to bed. To be honest, I'd rather not have deal with the prospect encountering that mindset when out in public en femme myself.

It's comments like these that really get me. How exactly is having a beard and being a crossdresser reflecting bad on anyone? I happen to be this person. I have a goatee and go out in public fully dressed with makeup quite often and have never had a lynch mob knocking down my door. For a community that screams out for acceptance for who we are, some of us are quite judgemental of each other's ways.

Kandi Robbins
10-26-2016, 06:35 PM
Probably had a mustache for about 40 years. We all have to make choices in life. Once I accepted that I am a CD, the 'stache went I have have never missed it for a second. We are who we are.

Fiona123
10-26-2016, 06:38 PM
I have had a goatee since 1995. In the last few years as I have come to accept my self as transgender or a crossdresser, I think of shaving it A LOT.

Helen_Highwater
10-26-2016, 06:55 PM
"my front and back are hairless as are my genitals."

OK, this says to me you're looking to be a femme as you can be but see the removal of the tash as an open announcement to the world that you're a crossdresser. By shaving it's a public acknowledgement that you're less masculine. Yep this is me being the amateur shrink but look, it's your face, you own it, it's yours to do with as you feel fit. In truth no-one will read anything into this other than it's possibly a mid-life crisis, searching for lost youth.

I had a full beard up until my first born. This was about the time I was beginning to better understand myself so I justified shaving as not wishing to have the baby try to grab my beard. Lame I know but no-one really commented adversely. If your wife is happy for you to do it then do it and stuff everyone else.

Having that even femme'ish face looking back at you in the mirror is something to be treasured.

Judy-Somthing
10-26-2016, 07:09 PM
I've tried dressing up a few times with no makeup or wig to see if the clothing alone would be enjoyable.

I was good as long as I didn't look in the mirror, when I did look in the mirror I didn't like what I saw and would come close to purging everything.

NicoleScott
10-26-2016, 07:50 PM
The only issue I would have with this is if you went out in pubic otherwise presenting as a woman, but still proudly showing off that lush facial hair. That would be a jarring visual for most "muggles" (yeah, me included) and would reflect badly on the rest of us as well - you know, the old "guilt by association" thingy. Said "muggles" would likely point, giggle and make rude remarks, and it would just reinforce in their minds the old "pervert", "weirdo", and "fetishistic transvestite" label that we've all struggled so long and hard to put to bed. To be honest, I'd rather not have deal with the prospect encountering that mindset when out in public en femme myself.

Well, Leslie, you could avoid "encountering that mindset" by choosing NOT to go out in public en femme. But I guess it works better for you to discourage crossdressers with facial hair from going out, so your life isn't affected.

Actually, a well-dressed, well-behaved crossdresser with facial hair going out in public does more to dispel those stereotypes than your way: keeping them out of the public's eye.

Leslie Langford
10-26-2016, 09:50 PM
It's comments like these that really get me. How exactly is having a beard and being a crossdresser reflecting bad on anyone? I happen to be this person. I have a goatee and go out in public fully dressed with makeup quite often and have never had a lynch mob knocking down my door. For a community that screams out for acceptance for who we are, some of us are quite judgemental of each other's ways.

Ummm...maybe not a lynch mob, but do you ever interact with people when dressed this way, and are you totally oblivious to the startled WTF??? (sometimes barely stifled) looks that cross their faces when they first set eyes on you...or do you even care? Do you ever look behind you when you've passed a group of people, only to find them smirking, laughing (not with...AT you), and maybe pointing you out to others nearby so that they can get their chuckles in as well?

Let me tell you a little story here...a few years ago shortly before Christmas I was in a local mall, and while walking down the concourse I spotted in the distance a somewhat odd- looking person...odd in the way that he/she was presenting themselves in their manner of dress and comportment. But what really caught my eye was what was happening in this person's wake...people were turning around staring, giggling, "nudge-nudge, wink-winking" each other - the works.

As I approached closer, I saw that this person had started to engage a young lady staffing one of those free standing mid-mall booths in a conversation, and it was evident from her awkward body language that she had been made quite uncomfortable by this encounter. I quickly surmised why: the person in question - clearly a man - was dressed like one of Mrs. Claus' little helpers...all the way from an ill-fitting "Prince Valiant"-style pageboy wig down to a frilly top, a short pleated red skirt, green leotards, and ending with buckled, high-heeled black shoes of the type most recently favored by 18th century Quakers. In other words, clearly a fetishistic crossdresser out to get his "jollies" by seeing what kind of reaction he could elicit from the unsuspecting "muggles", and not one of the mall Santa's costumed assistants on his break heading out for a smoke.

Call me judgemental if you will, but I resent people like that giving more "vanilla" types of crossdressers such as myself a bad rap, especially if this will affect my experience down the road when interacting with a person whose only other previous encounter with a crossdresser might have been with such an individual, and who would have formed a negative opinion about the rest of us simply from that. And before you ask, yes - I feel the same way about over-the-top drag queens who are typically gay and who delight in presenting caricatures of women for shock and comedic value, rather than attempting to emulate them in a respectful manner the way most straight crossdressers try to.

SamanthaDarling120
10-27-2016, 12:42 AM
See, I have a nice beard and its quite long. I really like it so that is an issue with me. I want to look convincing and know i can so the beard is a plus and negetive. Certain girls like it too. But i want a bald body. I cant shave everything as i live with my parents and they are nosey so it would only be a matter of time till they saw and questioned my shaved legs and i wpuld rather them never find out. But I feel dirty dressing wish a beard if i could think of the best word for it. I can cover the leg and and arm hair but not the facial hair. Im torn between my male and female self. I love being a man but would be thrilled i was born a female. But if you prefer to just remain a man in girls clothing, that is you and thats okay. I have a deep desire to go further and thats okay. I wish i was more okay with my split self. Im dressed now and feel fulfilled but i want, a wig, no body hair, full makeup, perfume, shoes, voice, everythingso it sounds like you are happy and you got it good because its hatd for me in my situation to achieve these things. Im okay with it for now though.

trisha kobichenko
10-27-2016, 02:18 AM
ummmm, yes. I have had a beard and mustache for 40 years. I shaved it once about 25 years ago and got so much grief from my wife and children I grew it back and have had it ever since. I sometimes fantasize about shaving it again and having a 'makeover weekend' but haven't done it. I feel I am somewhere in the middle of the 'gender scale' if there is such a thing, liking to express both male and female attributes. Pretty much keeps me inside the house though, with shaved legs and armpits...

Stephanie Voorhees
10-27-2016, 06:57 PM
Ummm...maybe not a lynch mob, but do you ever interact with people when dressed this way, and are you totally oblivious to the startled WTF??? (sometimes barely stifled) looks that cross their faces when they first set eyes on you...or do you even care? Do you ever look behind you when you've passed a group of people, only to find them smirking, laughing (not with...AT you), and maybe pointing you out to others nearby so that they can get their chuckles in as well?

Call me judgemental if you will, but I resent people like that giving more "vanilla" types of crossdressers such as myself a bad rap

You call me oblivious, yet you think this isn't happening with you and most other crossdressers as well... Hmmmm... Face it, to the "muggles" as you call them, no matter how we present, we are weird... Freaks to some. Is that slowly changing? Maybe, but the more people like me that get out there and show the world that "men in dresses" are just ordinary people too, the faster this may happen. If that's not your bag, fine, but don't be so hasty to judge me (and others) because it is ours.

Leslie Langford
10-27-2016, 08:02 PM
I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree, then, Stephanie.

To me, there is a distinct difference between trying to fly under the radar as opposed to making some sort of "in your face" fashion statement specifically geared towards eliciting a reaction from someone else - either good or bad. There is a reason why the so-called "Bearded Ladies" were common in circus sideshows in the "bad old days" - they were considered freaks of nature and objects of either pity or scorn back then. Then again, I don't "get" Kim Kardashian and her ilk either, along with her pathological need for attention and her constantly pushing the envelope of good taste and decorum when it comes to the way she presents herself.

Perhaps Conchita Wurst is your role model and heroine (you can Google her if you are not familiar with her story). Yes, she did win the Eurovision Song Contest 2014 - partly on the strength of being a novelty act - but while she may have had her proverbial 15 minutes of fame, she was also a divisive entity, and where is she now?

And to your point, while I have no illusions about "passing" when I am out as "Leslie" and aim more for "blending in" by dressing both age-appropriately and in a manner that emulates a well-dressed, well put together GG, I can honestly say that I have never had a negative reaction from any woman that I have ever interacted with. Initially somewhat startled? - yes, at times, but never, ever unnerved, disgusted, or freaked out. On the contrary, I have lost count of the number of times these women have complimented me on the way I was presenting myself and the effort I had taken to look authentic, which they saw as being respectful of them in an "imitation is the sincerest form of flattery" kind of way.

Can you say the same? My guess is that if I had presented myself the same way in the past but sporting a beard as well, then the example I gave in my earlier post regarding "Mrs. Claus' helper" would more than likely have been my experience instead.

Princess Chantal
10-28-2016, 06:01 AM
Leslie it is not an "in your face" statement, though. It is the simple manner of men enjoying feminine attire not facading around as a woman.
I venture about in many forms of crossdressing; sometimes in blending form to go "under the radar", sometimes in a more dressy form, sometimes in various vintage attire, on the rare occasion dressing in a more provocative manner and a few times in obvious "guy in a dress" (with no make up, no wig, no jewelry, and no breast forms). Absolutely none of the forms are done to shock or create an "in your face" statement to people, it is just me enjoying my time wearing and appearing the way I want at the time.
Yes, I do notice the difference in people's reactions. There seems to be rude statements and obvious uncomfortableness when i go in "guy in dress" form or a provocative form. However, I haven't had people confronting me with threatening physical hatred like I have had when I try to "fly under the radar" with a casual blending appearance. Seems like people have more issues with those that they assume are in the process of transitioning than they do with those that they perceive as simply crossdressing.
I get the utmost respect from people when I go in a more dressy manner or when I dress up in vintage attire. Perhaps the reason being is that they could handle the doing it for the "fun factor" and have issues with what they deem as the "being myself" expression and those that they assume are seeking sexual encounters

phili
10-28-2016, 08:59 AM
I'm so glad to see this question,and how many are chiming in, even if it is to downgrade the choice to keep our facial hair with a cute outfit. I hate the idea of use makeup or forms to hide/pretend about my body- so I'm all in on the natural look. To be fair, I do trim my beard and moustache, so I am not a complete purist, thank goodness- mountain man facial hair is quite distracting and I want people to enjoy my look!! That said, I can see why many guys go all the way and I think I'd probably enjoy it too if I had the time and could succeed at passing. Once I figured I could never pass I went the other way and don't try at all. I've gotten to like my look, feel proud of my statement about gender freedom, and am happy to say that I don't shave and girls don't have to either, in my book.

BTW anyone in the SF Bay area who agrees with me, pls say so or PM me, and let's go out and carry the flag! [NB I'm married and this is not a dating proposal]

Mayo
10-28-2016, 09:09 AM
I have a beard and moustache. I've shaved them off twice in 30 years (once about 5 years after I grew them, the second time in the last year or two) and I don't like the way I look without them. Since I will never 'pass' either way, I prefer to keep the facial hair. It certainly helps me that I'm not too dysphoric about my male physicality - I wish things were otherwise, but I can live with myself as is.

The world needs more men like Conchita Wurst. You don't break down barriers by being meek and staying out of people's faces - any sort of significant social change requires that people have their assumptions challenged, repeatedly.

Robinkay
10-28-2016, 09:46 AM
I also still have my mustache for the last 35 years its sort of grown on me ha ha:D
I have though many times about removing it, but I just can bring myself to do it,
I never had enought courage…….and my wife would think whats up.

Stockings-A-Plenty
10-28-2016, 11:12 AM
My personal preference, face and body needs to shaved. Probably because I suffer from dysphoria. As far as other Cross dressers with facial hair, it's lovely and adds a wonderful perspective to things(imo):>

Donna1391
11-01-2016, 06:29 AM
I do have a beard & I do go out dress with it. at time I get heakly & laught at but don't care I am being who I am. I wear chiffon blouse out all the time some time with fourms & without .depends on where I'm going. I do get a lot of compinlment from GGs on want I wear. sometime talk to fined out where I got my blouse from & I tell them I'm a crossdresser & that I enjoy wearing blouses when out & about they r soft & shear feel so nice.

Sometimes Steffi
11-02-2016, 09:56 PM
I had a mustache, a full beard for almost 40 something years. My wife had never seen my face hairless after 30 something years of marriage. Once of the reasons I didn't shave it off is because I feared that it was the last barrier to serious, full-fledged crossdressing. My wife (who didn't know about my crossdressing at the time) and brother (who still doesn't know) finally convinced me to shave it off. I did, and it truly was the last barrier to serious crossdressing. I have since embraced myself as a crossdresser and fully enjoy my time crossdressing out and about. My wife tolerates my crossdressing bit has no desire to participate in any way herself. She doesn't yet know what part she played in taking my crossdressing from the closet to the mall, to the restaurant, to the makeup store, etc. And I won't tell her if you don't.

Be careful what you wish for!

lara_cd
11-02-2016, 09:59 PM
Afraid I can't help you. When I first started I used to just leave the facial hair in place and work around it. Then I actually shaved and OMG the difference! I can't get dressed up now without a clean shave. The facial hair just totally ruins the effect for me, but I like being as passable as possible.

I have to agree with Micki, I have dressed with facial hair before, and I just don't feel as feminine as I do when I have shaved it all off. The only hair I have on my head is my eyebrows, no trying to hide my regular coif under my wig that way :)

Lara

CartoonistChick
11-03-2016, 12:07 AM
I've done the goatee thing myself before and have also had the makings of a beard but could never grow one fully as it's patchy in some areas on my cheeks. I've gotten lazy about shaving my face though as I've gotten older, although I now have a good reason to shave much more often, since I want to discover the ways of makeup.

But now speaking of facial hair and shaving, are there any creams that I can use for my facial fuzz? I've used Nair on most of my body -- except for my legs, which I shaved for the first time ever! -- and that stuff is a godsend! But I would like to use something on my face if at all possible so I don't have to shave so often.

Any suggestions?

Chelsea B
11-03-2016, 12:18 AM
I am like you and my mustache is out there hanging on my face as well. I have had it a long time. I did shave it once, and then grew it back. My wife likes it and while I would like to shave it, I think she will see that as me sliding further into the pink fog. It sure does wreck a pretty makeup job, and I am dying to makeup my face to see what I could look like.

I am right there with you, Traci. I have a full goatee and stache, and my wife has drawn the line there. I, too, am dying to get a full shave and see how I can really look. I will have to be patient.

MzAlexis
11-03-2016, 08:58 AM
I used to change out my facial hair every so often and would tell people it's to keep the FBI off my trial and that I was costing them a fortune in replacing "Wanted" posters... And I would dress in private regardless of what I was sporting makeup and all. These days I just keep clean shaven both because the grey in my beard isn't even and more importantly I enjoy my girl time and makeup and facial hair just gets in the way.

NicoleScott
11-03-2016, 10:23 AM
These days I just keep clean shaven both because the grey in my beard isn't even and more importantly I enjoy my girl time and makeup and facial hair just gets in the way.

The greying of my beard, and unevenly so, was my public excuse for shaving it off. The real, personal reason was so I could enjoy full makeup to achieve a complete head-to-toe transformation.

Kiwi Primrose
11-03-2016, 07:40 PM
I have a full beard and have had it for more years than I can remember. My wife likes my public persona and I wouldn't change anything; she has always liked the feel of my face wherever I rub it on her and who would want to forego that.
So my outer dressing is for around home but she indulges my desire to under-dress all the time.
We both admires Conchita for appearing in public but that is not for me.

Roxy
11-03-2016, 08:35 PM
I am so glad to hear the comment from all you facial hair girls.
I have a close shaven goatee and have had it 20 years. I shaved it once for costume party. As my desire to crossdress in public grows, the thoughts of shaving my facial have increased. Having grey hairs starting to pop up, others have said, is giving me a good reason (excuse) other than crossdressing.

HelenR2
11-05-2016, 02:44 PM
The post by Sometimes Steffi says it all. The first time I saw myself in the mirror, fully dressed and and made up, after shaving off my long-term beard and moustache, was a game changing moment. The difference, the improvement, was huge. I went out that night for the first time, and the next night. No more facial hair for me, ever.