What is the draw of going to the mall for crossdressers?

[Princess Chantal]

Is it actually to do shopping or is it to read people's reaction to your presence? Reading lots of the experiences shared on the forum, it seems like the focus is on other people and not the actual shopping. Is the attraction of going to the mall is to test the waters of your blending abilities? Do you think once you become used to the same old, same old reactions that you will become tired of going to the mall?

[deebra]

You mentioned three and they are all right but a fourth and most important is dressing as a woman and getting out in public, like a bird being let out of a cage, you are out of the protection of the house and feeling equal and doing what other women and society does. It validates yourself and also that of being a CD. In other words just wanting to blend and accepted as any other person in the mall. Having done this it really feels good while dressed walking in the mall, going in stores, trying on female clothes, buying them, having a bite to eat and passing just as any other women. Not calling attention in any way, wanting to be a grain of sand on the beach and it feels so nice when you aren't even noticed. And doesn't it feel really good dressed and wearing female clothes; how you walk different wearing heels and the click on the mall floor, the protrusion of breasts, hose, panties, bra and a dress and the taste of lipstick and earrings. It feels very nice not to feel like a man.

[CarlaWestin]

I think that the mall is a good open public space that flows. As a CD, it's important to have situational awareness for safety and the mall environment just makes that easy. Practically everyone is involved with their own agenda and don't notice at all. When noticed, you're initially acknowledged as a female. You've put a lot more work in your appearance than most people there, right? And, the occasional SA that knows you are male is usually just complimentary.

[Lana Mae]

I will have to have a purpose to go to the mall as it is 30+ miles away. Like going to a MAC counter or real shopping. Yes it is a test ground for whether you blend in or not. But I am not obsessed with it. Hugs Lana Mae

[Beverley Sims]

You have to start somewhere, to gauge a reaction.

Down by the wharves does mot have much attraction for me.

[Krisi]

If you want to go out, you have to go someplace. Driving around aimlessly in a car doesn't accomplish much and walking around alone at night is not safe. In my case, I have a nearby city where I can go and pretend to be a tourist or a business person on an errand but a shopping mall is just a convenient place to go as a destination to shop or just walk around looking in the windows. It's a place to test your presentation.

If you are living full time as a woman, you have probably passed this stage. In that case, you are at the mall to buy something.

[Sara Jessica]

A mall is simply a place to go. For many of us who are part time in presentation, we may not have the luxury of getting together with friends at our own homes. Therefore, we go out to places such as malls and restaurants in order to be social. Once those get old, we might branch out to any other place a women would go (grocery stores, Home Depot, movie theaters, concerts and other events, etc).

I think that once one is at a mall, it becomes the equivalent of a gauntlet with respect to whether a person has the stomach to be out & about, given the number of people who are typically around at any given time. This is where we learn not to let what others might be thinking bother us.

[Rachael Leigh]

I know for me it's a lot of what you say and it's also that I'm not one that goes out to a bar or out to a show so for me
it's my outlet to get out as my female self. Now that I'm not afraid to interact it's even better so for me it did give me
confidence to be out and not worry much what people thought

[dolovewell]

To shop mainly, but like deebra pointed out, I spend all ths time shaving, putting on makeup, and putting together an outfit, why would I want to contain myself to my own home after expending all that effort?

It literally is like being let out of a cage. It would be like a good author writing a book and only keeping it to himself, or a good painter painting a nice piece of art and keeping it hidden in his closet.

To me I almost consider my crossdressing like art, I transform myself and therefore want others to see it.

When I go out in public its always with a purpose, but there are times when I accomplish my purpose yet still want to be out, so a mall is a good place to kind of stroll around.

[immindy]

Because I love to shop and try on clothes. It is also a good place to meet friends after work as there are some nice places to eat or grab a drink there. This time of year it is fun to go Christmas shopping there . So basically , a girl loves to shop , meet friends and go out . Is not this what malls are for ?

[IleneD]

I totally empathize with your attitude, DoLove.
There is something about getting dressed and GOING OUT SOMEWHERE that just makes sense.
And for me there's another element to goads me along. I overcame my shy nature long ago by developing a sense of sheer audacity; almost brazen behavior. Intuitive and impulsive, it effects a lot of my actions, and often got me in trouble (nearly killed) in my military flying career.
In the few times I've dressed and gone out in public, I've done it boldly, and with a kind of "Oh yes. Look at me. That's right. I'm a large man in a beautiful dress, darling." - kind of a CD chip on my shoulder (??). Do you ever get that way?

[sometimes_miss]

As I'm not 'out', and don't go out, I can't be sure. But I believe it has to do with the strong desire to be accepted as a female. While that might not really be happening, it's easy to pretend that being tolerated and not pointed out as a fraud, as passing. So go out, walk around, then come home and say to one's self, 'Gee, I must appear to be a woman to everyone. This is great! I pass! Wheeeeeee! So that fantasy feels good, which is why people do it.

[Micki_Finn]

Yeah it's really about the shopping for me.

[ClosetED]

I have not yet gone out, other than to Tiffany Club once. But consider the possibilities of being out in public. Dark areas where there are few people, so you may pass better, but also risky if confronted/attacked. A movie theater - once in, you have people around you, but their focus is not on people around them and dark during movie. A mall offers a better lit area, where people are moving and do some people watching, but rarely confront anyone who is different-they just observe and may comment to people they are with. If anyone did confront, there is mall security to prevent it getting out of hand. And plenty of shopping things to just window shop like others and be out. If no one does seem to notice (or you did not notice them noticing), it is ego boost that you passed. So a safe place to try out more than driving dressed or walking during day in an relatively isolated area.
IMHO
Hugs, Ellen

[Tracii G]

I tend to have a reason to go to a mall.............. buy something.
I guess we could ask you why to you do history based or old time train rides dressed in period dresses?
As many as you have done and posted pics here do they ever get old or boring ?

[Joyce Swindell]

I find what makes me feel good is when sales people don't even flinch and treats you as they would any other shopper. I do try to keep a watchful eye on others for reaction but it's not a major focus. I've always been accompanied by my wife and I think this gives me some big help and gives me a confidence advantage as well as a distraction to my attentions. I'm not sure if I would go to the mall alone....but if I needed something and she couldn't go....I would probably chicken out.....unless we were out of town ...who knows. Maybe someday I will test that.

[Teresa]

Chantal,
I feel it's testing the waters in several directions, some may do it just to see the reaction but it's part of that coming out process, I don't think we know how far we need to go until we try it . Very few would admit that it's to shock people, I don't think I've read a comment on the forum to that effect, I guess some have to keep pushing because they know deep down they may be TS and it will have to become an acceptable way of life. From most of the comments here most appear to pitch it at that level.

Members who wear OTT clothes usually do it privately in their own homes and usually buy their things on line, they have no intention of passing, I will add I don't have a problem with that but it's not what I'm about.

[AllieSF]

I go to the mall top0 shop. However, everyone else who have posted so far, including yourself, Chantal, have answered you questions about the "other" reasons why. I think that you already knew the answer before posting! Lol

[Barbara Jo]

Personally, I do not interact with people as a rule,

I just like to walk though town or the mall etc... almost always wearing a a dress or a skirt .
I love it when others simply assume that I am a female... who is wearing all the things that a female wears, even the under garments that they can not see. :)

[Princess Chantal]

Allie, you so know me! I did know the many answers and had intentionally left off the most important.... exactly what Deebra mentioned in the first post... the straight joy of the simplicities of crossdressing! Focusing on other's reactions seems to overwhelm many threads on here.


I tend to have a reason to go to a mall.............. buy something.
I guess we could ask you why to you do history based or old time train rides dressed in period dresses?
As many as you have done and posted pics here do they ever get old or boring ?
Nope, those still put a smile on my face and always look forward to them. Definitely not because of how people react, sure seeing their reactions was cool the first few times but ho hummm now days. Going out to the malls/stores are just as enjoyable to me as shown here http://www.crossdressers.com/forums/showthread.php?233804-Dress-Shopping-Success!&highlight= Enjoying what I am wearing, spending time with friends, shopping..... very little to no stress on people reacting to what I am doing.

[Ceera]

The first time I went to a mall en-femme, it was because I wanted to go to Sephora to treat myself to a makeover. I'd been going out to nightclubs on a regular basis, and occasionally making a late-night visit to a grocery store or a fast food place, and I knew I was passing well enough not to draw stares and negative comments. I'd even gone out wig shopping during the day, to a little shop in a strip mall, just at opening time. But I hadn't yet gone out in full daylight as a female to a busy place where there were a large cross-section of people.

I scheduled makeovers for myself and my daughter in the early afternoon, on my birthday. Went with my daughter to the mall as a guy earlier that day for mall walking exercise, and on the way out I got my eyebrows threaded for the first time. Then we went home and I got dolled up, then we returned for our makeovers, clothes and shoe shopping, and dinner at the Cheesecake Factory restaurant. I found it to be a wonderful and personally validating experience. As others said, it felt like letting myself out of a cage, and being free at last to be my girly self. The shopping itself was fun, but so was the experience of interacting with strangers and being accepted at face value as a genuine female. After that, I felt unchained. I felt free to go anywhere, at any time, and enjoy being my female self. Grocery store, gas station, home improvement store, parks, restaurants, bars... if it was someplace a woman could and would safely go, I went!

A year later, I still do. I love it. Oh, occasionally I'll get someone who refers to me with male pronouns, despite me being visibly female. But most people accept me as female.

I am gender fluid, and currently aiming for about a 50/50 balance between my male and female sides - although my female side is getting 90% or more of my social time right now. I don't know if I'll ever go full time as a woman. But it's pleasant to know I can be accepted socially as a woman in all sorts of situations, if I ever do go that far.

[Diane Smith]

I go to the mall because that's where many of the best clothing and makeup stores are located. Nothing more or less.

- Diane

[Adriana Moretti]

Do you think once you become used to the same old, same old reactions that you will become tired of going to the mall?

Tired of shopping ?? Never LOL...It is a place gals go to I guess for a place to "go" which I think is great, cause after that most start not caring anymore, and go anywhere, the buzz of first excursions gets old as confidence builds and thats a good thing...its also a good thing because in public we are our own ambassadors for our community, the more we are scene as part of the community the more acceptance as a whole we will gain.

[Kate Simmons]

Beats me. I get very little from it myself, not to mention I consider it a waste of my time.:)

[Princess Chantal]

Oh oh Kate, make sure you protect your crossdressing card.... some people here may revoke it LoL

[Shelly Preston]

Shopping every time :D

Sometimes on my own or with friends. Then maybe find somewhere nice for lunch.

The question is why does anyone go anywhere ?

[Princess Chantal]

Nope make the question:
Why overwhelm your outing with reading what other people's reaction is to your crossdressing?
I made mall outings a specific place as it seems like many folks here are so focused on describing the people's reactions when they have a mall outing.

[BrittanyB]

Personally, being out enfemme is a form of validation. I don't want to be noticed or stand out and if I felt I would be easily clocked based on choice of clothes and/or makeup, I would not go out. Seems strange, but the validation isn't people noticing, it is that they are not noticing which affirms my transformation from masculine to feminine. It also gives me feelings of freedom for some reason.

This is an interesting question and I'm enjoying reading other girls' take on it.

[jjjjohanne]

I present male, but I wear skirts, etc. I do not test my blending capabilities. I am attracted to the mall. If I could get a job that let me dress every day and interact with the public, that would be better. I think I simply desire to get out around people while dressed. The mall is where people are.

[MissJoanne]

For me, it's about being a woman and doing "woman things"! Simple as that. I need to get completely in to the role, so to speak.

[Sara Jessica]

Nope make the question:
Why overwhelm your outing with reading what other people's reaction is to your crossdressing?
I made mall outings a specific place as it seems like many folks here are so focused on describing the people's reactions when they have a mall outing.

I'm not sure there are many who go places solely to get reactions of others and then report on such in these pages. Then again, there are some strange tales indeed in the historical record. One which comes to mind (before my time here) where the perpetrator was a person who had a "list" of rather extreme tasks in which involved the gauging of reactions or actually roping unsuspecting Muggles into his fetishistic game, making them unwitting parts of his little fantasies. Of course this is an extreme example and is patently wrong on so many levels.

My point in raising such an example is to show that some will in fact fit the original premise, obviously on a much more innocent and harmless level. However, for those who try and blend in with the crowd, we often look back on an outing to measure how successful we were. I know I do this, the measurement being whether any negativity was detected. Thing is, we never know what happens in our wake but regardless, reporting back a post-mortem (so to speak) is validating in some way. No outward negativity, personal interactions were polite, etc, all makes for a nice exclamation point on an outing, yet not something to obsess over. This is not the end-all reason for going out & about, at least for me.

[BillieAnneJean]

For me, if the mall could be completely empty of people and I could still experience the clicking of the heels on the marble floors, hear that echoed, feel the different climate zones on me (legs and feet cool, thighs a bit warmer, torso and head top of head warm), and see the lovely colors/fabrics/styles, then I would be just fine. But this is not to be.

So I go, even with the crowds and blend in.

And bored with it? NEVER EVER!!!!!

[Rhonda Jean]

My reasons are the same as everybody else's. I'll take the "don't you get tired of it" part.

Yes. Totally bored by it. But, I don't know what else to do. I never dress to stay home. When I go shopping I at least try to buy something, but more times than not there's nothing I want, and certainly nothing I need. It's strictly to get out. I go to the grocery store, etc., too. Those places can at least be a little productive. Boring as it may be, it still serves a purpose. It's just what I do.

[immindy]

Rhonda ? You say :" Yes. Totally bored by it "

No offense because we are all different , but really ?

The best part of being a girl is shopping ! Finding outfits and accessories and trying them on and chatting with others about what is cute or looks good together. Meeting with friends and shopping with them . I even especially like going with my wife and helping her find some cute things that look good on her .

I thought most here who "dress" enjoy being a " girl "? Again , no offense, just rather surprised :)

[Tracii G]

Chantal I kinda figured you would answer that way LOLOL.
I enjoy your posts and all the fun photos don't change a thing about yourself.

[Sara Jessica]

I thought most here who "dress" enjoy being a " girl "? Again , no offense, just rather surprised :)

Count me in as bored as well. I guess after 25 years or so of going out, it just isn't what it was way back when.

Malls are something to do. Malls are cool if you need to go there (like Black Friday, my fav day of the year to hit the mall). But the shopping part, trying on stuff is tedious. That train left the station long ago.

[phylis anne]

with me it is people watching girl wise ,not in the typical male sense but that of the girl sense of I wonder what I would look like dressed like that or I wish I had that figure observing the different walks , the fashion to age match this has helped me keep from making a lot of mistakes that would attract unwanted attention ( no a 62 yr old should not dress like a corner street girl:eek:) basically a jeans and boots girl type easy to blend in with ,and more importantly shopping wise I own the moment no matter how I present the s/a's really bend over backwards from fitting to what works fashion wise and most importantly put you at ease
hugs phylis anne

[Rhonda Jean]

Rhonda ? You say :" Yes. Totally bored by it "

No offense because we are all different , but really ?

The best part of being a girl is shopping ! Finding outfits and accessories and trying them on and chatting with others about what is cute or looks good together. Meeting with friends and shopping with them . I even especially like going with my wife and helping her find some cute things that look good on her .

I thought most here who "dress" enjoy being a " girl "? Again , no offense, just rather surprised :)

I think I can clear that up. I'm not bored by being a girl, it's just that the whole mall thing gets tiresome. I feel like I've seen everything I can possibly see in any mall, and it can seem like a colossal waste of time. It's not unlike when I was a teenager and would get dressed and drive around to convenience stores and go in and buy some little something I didn't need. After several convenience stores, it seems a little nuts, repetitive, and boring. String a few weekends together of making the rounds of convenience stores and it seemed a lot nuts! The mall has taken the place of the convenience store. That's why going to the grocery store is a step up. At least I'm buying things I need, and making a better use of time. Eating at restaurants is a step up, again because I'm doing something useful.

[Periwinkle]

Oddly enough, for as often as I've been shopping while dressed, I've never been to a mall en femme. I do think it would be a fun place to chill out though. I'd get to look for nice new clothes and snag an Orange Julius. Ooooh boy. That'd be pretty nice!

[MzVanessa]

Tired of shopping ?? Never LOL...It is a place gals go to I guess for a place to "go" which I think is great, cause after that most start not caring anymore, and go anywhere, the buzz of first excursions gets old as confidence builds and thats a good thing...its also a good thing because in public we are our own ambassadors for our community, the more we are scene as part of the community the more acceptance as a whole we will gain.

Very well said Adriana. And you look super cute in the pic... love the boots and glasses!

[Helen_Highwater]

So why go to the mall? Let's turn that around and ask, if not the mall where would you go when presenting enfemme?

In truth during daylight hours there's not that much to do enfemme unless you're fully out and living 24/7 and hence doing the mundane things such as going to work or acting as a stay at home mum and taking kids/grand kids to and from school etc. For the rest of us it's a place to go that's relatively safe, easy to access and provides opportunities to interact with the muggles just as any GG would. it's not about showing off quite the opposite as when you read posts here about going out to malls the vast majority do the "Dress to Blend" thing. It's about being part of the crowd not standing out within it.

For me going to the retail park/mall provides an opportunity just do a "normal" everyday activity. If I am shopping then I'll stop at some point to get a bite to eat in a cafe whether that's in a dept store or a stand alone coffee/sandwich bar. I've recently added traveling there and back on public transport or if driving I'll stop for fuel and pay not at the pump but in the shop. And it's not just clothing stores. I've been into electrical stores for USB leads, DIY stores for glue as well as food shopping in supermarkets. In the evenings I've been out to the cinema and dined in restaurants.

At no time am I looking to be the focus of everyone's attention, quite the opposite. Just looking to do what any GG would do.

[docrobbysherry]

I don't need Muggles to feel unvalidated. I have a mirror at home that works just fine for that!:sad:
If u can pass when out or feel validated or like interacting with everyone knowing your're a man in a dress? Good for u!:thumbsup:
I can neither pass, get validation, (think ridicule primarily), or enjoy that my "man in a dress" look is the topic of conversation with everyone I meet! :straightface:

Someone mentioned wanting to blend in, be invisible when out in public. Yes, I want that! Which is why I go out in drab. No one gives me a second look, ever!:daydreaming:

Being aware and wary of everyone I see is a distraction that I don't enjoy when out shopping, running errands, or grabbing a bite. I don't want, need, or enjoy attention in Vanilla Land. Besides, I'm a CD. I dress for me and like to look attractive, at least.:battingeyelashes:
U can keep "dressing to blend"!:thumbsdn:

[Jamie Christopher]

I just love being a woman and shopping for women's clothes, lingerie, accessories, makeup, shoes, everything!

Jamie

[KellyG123]

Just came from the mall. I think I saw a CD. Dressed great, certainly did not blend in. The Adam's apple was the only real giveaway. Sadly, as always, I was in drab :(

[Kandi Robbins]

Why the mall? For me it's for no other reason than it is somewhere to walk for an extended period of time. It also provides me with opportunities to interact with others. I could care less about what others think about me. A mall provides many different places and opportunities to have different experiences.

[Sarah Louise]

Such an interesting question! I went to a mall dressed for the first time only two days ago. I must admit, while I enjoyed the experience, part of me is confused why I went to such effort with all the stress. I think maybe, I just wanted to be able to shop for clothes and make-up without worrying that anyone thought it was weird that a bloke was looking at such items.

Of course, it would be no different if I looked like a bloke in a dress, but I think I blended in reasonably well. Certainly, I felt much more comfortable browsing the racks in girl mode than in boy mode. It was fun to shop while feeling I belonged there.

[Ashley Lyn]

Haven't been out lately, as I only go out 'out of town', as the wife is accepting, but doesn't want the 'local' world to see her with 'Dave in a dress'!
I accept that, and enjoy trips shopping with her and the daughter (who thinks its neat), although it isn't often.. I have been to local strip malls, and walked thru stores with no issues, on my own, locally, but just by myself... Guess I pass for the most part, and even tho' I just turned 70, I dress more 40ish.. Its just me, and I like to be out and about dressed as a woman!
Blending in as 'just another pretty woman' is my goal.. I guess I have accomplished that for the most part!.. and I still love going to malls after all these years..:battingeyelashes:

[JaytoJillian]

Going to the mall en femme holds zero appeal for me. I prefer to shop in drab, as I can get it done without the added distraction of worrying about who's reading me or if some hater is going to make a scene. With the exception of occasionally having to run into a store for some cosmetic item that I discover I need AFTER I've gotten made up, I never shp in girl mode. If I am going to go out en femme, you can almost certainly bet that it will be someplace where I can socialize and where I am appreciated and celebrated--much more fun and relaxing than gauging "reactions" to my presence in a mall.

[SarahSerene]

Count me in as one who loves going to the mall! I agree with all the positive reasons you gals have mentioned above.

One reason I might add as well - it allows me the opportunity (in a fun and fluid environment I might add) to test the longevity of my look. For instance, how is my makeup holding up? How about my wig's style? Do my feet hurt? How am I doing with these shoes on this floor surface? Practice your walking. Are my hip pads staying in place? One time early on in using them, they started to shift :eek: Thank goodness for being able to find a family restroom to get them fixed.

As Kandi mentioned too - it's a place to practice my presentation and have multiple interactions. I really want to start working on my voice, and trips to the mall will someday be a testing ground for that too.

[CynthiaD]

I go to the mall for the same reason I go to any store, to shop. I'm not that interested in other people's reactions. My female clothing has, over the years, become "just my regular clothes." I don't really think about what I'm wearing any more.

[Eryn]

Someone once asked a gangster "Why do you rob banks?" He replied "Because that is where the money is."

Malls have the stuff I want and are pleasant places to be. You're out in public, but it is a distracted public that doesn't pay a lot of attention to those around them.

[Cheryl T]

The attraction of the Mall.....it's where the stores are.
C'mon, now how about a hard question??

[leannejacobs]

Full length mirrors 😜

[sara66]

I love shopping! Stores every were. With so many people around the is a bit more anonymity.

Sara

[ellbee]

The attraction of the Mall.....it's where the stores are.
C'mon, now how about a hard question??

But why go dressed?

I've shopped for fem stuff at the mall before -- in guy-mode.


I suppose one could make the case that it's for proper fit/sizing. But even then, one could still wear hip pads/fake boobs/waist slimmer under their guy-clothes, no?


Obviously there's something else going on than just that, which is fine & understandable.

[mona lisa]

The makeup counter can be fun! :)

[Linda Kay Scott]

I go to the mall, just like I go to the grocery store, the beauty supply store or where ever. At first it is a thrill, then it becomes part of your everyday existence. I don't worry about who is judging me or looking my way, but then again I also don't go shopping in 5 inch heels and a sequin evening dress. I dress pretty much like the other 50 year old housewives at the store.

Now about those heels and evening dress? Love them, but finding a place to actually wear them out is the challenging part.

[MeredithG]

I agree that going in guy mode to shop for female items can be fun and exciting too. If you get a helpful (female) salesperson it can make your day!

[Dana44]

The mall has some nice stores and you can be there and nobody bothers you. I go there to buy something and they have nice lunch or dinner centers and it is relaxing to be there. i have been there en femme and been all over the mall and the SA's are very nice.

[KimberlyJean]

If you dress in camouflage and go to the beach you will stand out. If you go where the trees are you will blend in. Stores and the mall are where the trees are.

[Vickie_CDTV]

Malls are a great place to test the waters when first going out. It is a far (physically) safer place to go out dressed when starting out than going out a night, especially alone. There are people to try and interact with safely too.

I don't do much actual shopping at malls anymore since I can find what I want online so much cheaper. But it is sometimes a fun outing.

[I Am Paula]

Anyone who has watched a George Romero movie knows that , even in death, we are instinctively drawn to the mall.

[irene9999]

The times I've gone out dressed I've enjoyed going shopping because it is more fun shopping for outfits while dressed, you can try things on and see what they'll look like on you. I also like the validation of just going out and doing normal things while dressed as a female.

[JamieQ]

One if my first totally dressed as woman outings was at the mall. I went about noon before school kids were there. I do think a very busy mall would be best as to blend in more with the crowd. I much prefer to go to Victoria's Secret as a woman than as a man to browse and then buy a few items. After a time or two I just went where anyone else would go...I have never had a problem anywhere. I say the mall a good first time outing place...

[Scarlett398]

Well put, Kimberly...The movie theater for me a place where's there's plenty of trees too! Yeah, your right, camo at the beach would definitely get you some really weird looks! In the town where I live, if you go to our local Walmart, camouflage is usually the fashion of the day. The only thing camo I own is a pair of preppy saddle shoes with camo saddles. Most of the shoe, other than the camo saddles and back, is a really light beige suede. I'll occasionally wear the with a khaki colored pair of jeans but definitely not dressed as Scarlett. There's a lot of deer killers around here. I respect all hunters if they eat what they kill. But if I went out in the woods and killed a deer, I would probably cry for a week. I'm not a hunter. I really enjoyed your short but on point post. Well done Kimberly....Scarlett

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You're right, Linda. You definitely don't want to wear a formal ball gown to the mall, a movie theater, a bowling alley, or a restaurant. I don't think I will ever own a ball gown. My wife has about 15 or twenty of them and looks gorgeous in every single one of them. She's got the curves and other looks to pull the ball gown look off in a formal setting. She has a very wealthy buddy who's the same size she is and the wealthy lady buys about three or four gowns a year and seems to never wear them more than once. So when she's worn them her one time, she sells them to my wife for pennies on the dollar....Lucky and smokin' hot girl. She'll be wearing one of those gowns next Friday and I will be wearing a slim cut suit. I own about 20 of those. But it's never Scarlett in those suits! Your post is funny....Scarlett

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That would be one of my first stops. I bet those ladies are pretty open minded. Besides, I've gotten really good at applying makeup based on the time I have spent watching the pro videos on line displaying all the tricks of the trade. I'm always learning something new though. Mona Lisa, you look like you've got the makeup application process down pat. Your profile photo is stunning. You are like me, when dressed as a girl, they can no way tell we are anything but! Take care and have a wonderful weekend!....Scarlett

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You're funny, Cheryl...I love your reply...Quick, effective, and right to the point! Here's a great question for you...With our technology today and with our recent passing of the last guy, Gene Cernan, who left our final footprint on the moon, why haven't we gone back and set up a space station on the moon? The NASA space program created hundreds of thousands of high paying jobs back in the 60's and 70's. The Space Shuttle seemed to be a huge waist of time and money...I think it's time to go back after a 40 year absence from Gene Cernan's last footprint on our moon, don't you? Here's another question - Why do us girls have to have our mouths wide open while applying mascara?....Sincerely, Scarlett

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Yepper, and people are walking over the place and they always seemed to be so distracted with a phone, friends, and other people watching themselves but only for just a split second of notice of another person while walking pretty fast....Scarlett

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Now that's coming from a seasoned pro at this stuff. Short, sweet, and right to the point, Cynthia!...Scarlett

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I really like the "longevity of my look" thoughts. I thinks that's a great idea. To pop into an anchor store restroom to check your pretty self out. Your hair may be out of place or you might have a tiny bit of lipstick on your front teeth. How are those boots, ankle booties, or heels feeling after about an hour or two. Practicing the walking is always a great idea. Walking straight at a full length mirror inside or on the outside of some stores. The walk is important. Family restrooms are awesome and the movie theaters and Khol's always have very clean and well attended to family restrooms. I hope they become more common place...Really enjoyed your post Sarah...Well done...Scarlett

[phili]

I spent yesterday afternoon at the mall looking like my avatar pic, and thought about what I was enjoying. I'd sum it up by saying I was so happy to have all the experiences I have been envious of- clopping along in my heels, happy to be light on my feet and enjoying my short dress, enjoying the feeling of actually doing it rather than just wishing I was doing it. I felt good the whole time and afterwards, and it seems to be helping in the sense of lowering my fantasy level energy.

Satisfying the jealousy, which reflects some emotional needs, was therapeutic and I am very grateful for the opportunity. I was occupying the space in society reserved for men in dresses, which was fine with me!

[Trishpdxcd2]

You mentioned three and they are all right but a fourth and most important is dressing as a woman and getting out in public, like a bird being let out of a cage, you are out of the protection of the house and feeling equal and doing what other women and society does. It validates yourself and also that of being a CD. In other words just wanting to blend and accepted as any other person in the mall. Having done this it really feels good while dressed walking in the mall, going in stores, trying on female clothes, buying them, having a bite to eat and passing just as any other women. Not calling attention in any way, wanting to be a grain of sand on the beach and it feels so nice when you aren't even noticed. And doesn't it feel really good dressed and wearing female clothes; how you walk different wearing heels and the click on the mall floor, the protrusion of breasts, hose, panties, bra and a dress and the taste of lipstick and earrings. It feels very nice not to feel like a man.

I think you said it best. I have only been once in Las Vegas but am trying to get up the nerve to go out locally to the mall.

[Abbey11]

It a nice experience, browsing through the rails taking some items to the changing room and trying them on, or being at the makeup counter and discussing cosmetics, interacting with the SA's and it gets you out of the house :)