Night out in Dublin 😉

[xNicolex]

So went out in Dublin with my sis her man and my gf. Was a nice night out apart from over hearing a random guy on the street say to his friend that's a man :Angry3: was the first time I ever experienced any comments. But whatever I thought and kept my head up :) then I got inside the bar and a couple of other cd' ers were in there again first time seeing someone like me in public. Anyway I was kindda shaken up about being talked about and was kindda paranoid for a while but I was fine. Thought I'd share. Will post some pics of the night out soon but in the mean time I got a new lace top and some new makeup.

[Exris]

Was a nice night out apart from over hearing a random guy on the street say to his friend that's a man :Angry3:

Well I wouldn't have made you. Not that I am especially looking around 'checking' so to speak.

Glad the rest of the evening worked out nice tho!

[Sarah Louise]

I don't know how anyone could clock you. You look amazing and very femme.

[April Showers]

I agree with Sarah's comments you look very feminine and pretty. Beautiful makeup and clothes and i would kill for those brows. Hope you had fun despite the comments.

[Lana Mae]

Nicolex, if you look as good that night as you do in these pictures, I do not know how he clocked you! Do you know and is it something you can fix? You look lovely and I love the lace top!! Hugs Lana Mae

[Lucy23]

I understand it must have been frustrating to hear that. But the longer you dwell on thinking about the moment, the worse it will get. You have the support of really close people and that is important.

You look absolutely stunning in those photos! Had I seen you like that, I too would have thought you were a beautiful woman :)

[Alice_2014_B]

Looking very beautiful Nicole, as always!
Awesome the night went well.
I visited Dublin when I was stationed at R.A.F. Mildenhall in England.
:)

[mykell]

+ you were with your girlfriend and he was with his friend, ++ you got a new lace top and some makeup, +++you kept your head up and had a good time, thank you for sharing that it not always rosy out in the wild but if you keep your head up it will work itself out....dont be too paranoid cause by the pics you did share you look lovely and im jealous of the makeup job you have....

[Jenniferathome]

Nicole, this is where I think it's really empowering to accept that, as cross dressers, we're not fooling anyone. Those who look at a cross dresser will see the man. One can look great (and your makeup is flawless by the way) and still be seen as the man underneath. Women are more than a face, in fact, there are a million more things that tell us who is who. And that's ok. If the bar is passing as a genetic woman then you and I and all cross dressers are doomed to failure. My wife once told me that I was a good looking woman but the man still came through. If you can embrace that, you'll never give a second thought to a comment. Glad you got out and had fun.

[SarahSerene]

Nicole you look really convincing! Especially your eye makeup and eyebrows.

If it helps, being read used to really bother me too, but it gets easier as your confidence grows, and you've got a look that could carry a lot of confidence! As a side note, I went to the mall today in fact. I am sure I got read by some, and some probably said the same thing behind my back. I also got a lot of friendly looks, smiles, and a few hello's. The key (IMHO) is to have the confidence to smile (or smirk, if they deserve it, as long as you are in a safe place) and to own it. With your look, you are already totally owning it!

[Dana44]

I don't know how anybody could clock you. You look feminine and pretty.

[ellbee]

If a picture is worth a thousand words, then a video is worth a billion. And in-person is worth a gazillion.

IOW, perhaps one can pass in a photo, while still get clocked quite easily in-the-flesh. Sounds like you've learned that, Nicole. But, it happens -- for a million different possible reasons. Heck, one could pass one minute with one person, and then get automatically read the next by someone else.

Welcome to the club. No one is immune.


Nice pics, BTW. :thumbsup:


Now about dem femmy eyebrows, which I can get only if I use a certain trick (and which doesn't appear that you used)... :strugglin

[Allisa]

As one who could never look as good as you, passing comments and whispers are common place to me now but with confidence and knowledge of who we are gets us by. A little paranoia is a good thing when out and about and you do look lovely, please be safe.

[Tracy Irving]

You look great. I am glad everything settled down and you had a good time. Who cares what some stranger says anyway? You are doing what is right for you.

[ClosetED]

You look beautiful and sexy. Possibly your voice or movements give it away. You and Valery make me so jealous!
Hugs, Ellen

[TrishaTX]

You look great...Dublin was lucky to have you

[Rachel M]

We tend to post our pics that show our best female attributes. Looking at these I see a genetic woman. You look great! Good for you for carrying on with your night. As long as you and your group had fun that's all that matters.

[eire emma]

Omg Nicole,you really look fabulous. Love the top and your hair is amazing. 😊

[Valery L]

You look beautiful. It is hard to believe that someone read you. However, based on your pictures I think that does not happen very often, and if it happens, who cares as long as you look stunning.

[bridget thronton]

You look great and your gf goes out with you dressed - life seems good from my perspective

[Barbara Black]

Same here, I wouldn't have picked you out by your looks, which are very nice. I'm glad you got over it and enjoyed your trip out. Oh, and a very lovely blouse as well.

[Krisi]

You certainly look like a female in the photos and you look good. It's impossible to tell from a couple photos if someone really passes. For all we know, you might be 6' 4" and walk like a lumberjack.

Each time we go out we have a chance to learn what we are doing right and what we need to improve. Do you have good hip and butt padding? The lack of hips is a sure sign of a man in a dress. Of course your walk and the way you carry your arms is a hint as well.

Anyway, as long as you had fun, that's all that matters.

[Beverley Sims]

I remember being sprung for being a man once.....

It wasn't until I was asked about one of my girlfriends by this guy...

"Is your friend gay? He really makes a great girl.

I like short sighted men. :-)

[Judith96a]

Nicole, judging by your photos, that guy was doing really well to clock you - you look very pretty and feminine. Of course, appearance isn't everything. I wonder how many times any of us have been in a similar situation but haven't heard the comment - times without number I should think.
There is not one sure fire way (apart from not crossdressing in the first place) of not being read and that's to not go out. We all get read, some more often than others. Sometimes we know that we've been read because we hear a comment, most times we're unaware. I've honestly got to the point where I don't care what strangers think of me. I do care about how they behave, but not about what they think. Hold your head high and go for it!

[AnnaMarie]

You look fab Nicole and very convincing. Perhaps it's not so much how you 'look' though.
Sometimes how we act, or how we look to see if we have been made that gives us away sometimes. I don't subscribe to the head up and smile at everyone philosophy as it's not what real girls do. I love people watching and will quite happily sit in a shopping centre with a coffee and watch the world go by. Girls just get on with things. They focus on what's in a shop window, or occasionally push their hair behind their ears. Walking, standing, posture has a great deal more to giving us away than anything else. If you've sorted wide shoulders, height, big hands, long arms, and wide jawline then you are pretty much there. From the photographs - you have! We all get made sometimes, it's not nice, but your confidence grows, you put it behind you and blend :)

Anna

[janeycdbbw]

If they were talking about you..It probably was a conversation on how cute you looked, and not "hey I think that is a guy"...not the way your pics look for sure. Just embrace and enjoy.

[ellbee]

For all we know, you might be 6' 4" and walk like a lumberjack.

Understood that you were making just a couple examples. But it honestly could be anything, really, including things one might not even initially think of.


Could be bad lighting for a moment, or a bad angle, or one's hands or foot size. How about the "comparison factor" -- if Nicole was with a group of people & she was the smallest/shortest, or was instead with all guys, or whatever, would she have still gotten read? Or how about a different hair or lip color, which may have attracted less attention, and thereby someone not taking as long of a look? Or even if they had passed each other on the street 5 seconds earlier, or 5 seconds later? Etc., etc.


Again, could be anything. Sometimes it's in one's control, and sometimes it's simply not. Just have to be aware of that & simply roll with it when out in public. Nature of the beast. Gotta take the good with the bad.

[JocelynJames]

Something weird- in guy mode I really don't care what people think. In girl mode I lose it . I obsess about it all. It's then I see the pressure on GGs (and it's more than I could ever imagine) in girl mode I know my skin isn't so thick and that's part of why I've only gone out once. I'm missing out and it's nobody's fault but mine. I SALUTE YOU FOR GOING OUT AND LIVING LIFE!

[xNicolex]

Understood that you were making just a couple examples. But it honestly could be anything, really, including things one might not even initially think of.


Could be bad lighting for a moment, or a bad angle, or one's hands or foot size. How about the "comparison factor" -- if Nicole was with a group of people & she was the smallest/shortest,

Thanks girls for all your kind words :) laurababe I agree, also I was the tallest I'm 5'8 but my sis and gf are 5'2 her guy is 6' so maybe I stood out as the bigger girl I think I walk ok and as for feet size i'm a 7UK so not that big really l. But like you said it's just something you gotta expect from time to time :/ you can fool some of the people all the time, all the people some of the time, but never all the people all of the time.

[Lorileah]

You certainly look like a female in the photos and you look good. It's impossible to tell from a couple photos if someone really passes. For all we know, you might be 6' 4" and walk like a lumberjack.

Then again I now women who are 6'4" and I know women who were lumberjacks (fighter mechanics, truck drivers, racer car drivers, cops, fire fighters, highline repair people, every branch and job in the military, steel workers...) so that's not it. Exactly how does a 6'4" lumberjack walk?

[CONSUELO]

Nicole,

Your picture looks very good and I am sure you were very well and carefully turned out for the evening. I'm not sure what tell tale signs alert others to our gender despite very careful presentation. I have observed that sometimes it is in the way a person walks. That said I have a female friend who tends to walk a bit like a man. On some occasions I have been unsure if what I see is a cross dresser or a woman and have been surprised when close and lengthy observation confirms that it is indeed a woman.

That said, did it really matter once you had taken out the verbal "barb". You were with friends. You ended up in a welcoming and secure environment and you had a good time. We all need to have some thick skins I suppose.

[Lizzy White]

You certainly don't look like a man, very pretty x

[Shaunad]

Nicole you look amazing, I'm from Dublin and don't have the Balls to go out dressed, but wish i had! Can't believe someone thought you were not exactly as you looked, a beautiful woman on a night out!

[S. Lisa Smith]

I am amazed that someone thought you were a man dressed like you were. You look fabulous and feminine!!!

[Molly J]

Sometimes being read could be as simple as the club you are patronizing. If it's common that CDers frequent this particular club, there may be some wallflowers in the room who are scrutinizing the women, looking to see who's genetic and who's not.

By the way, I love your sultry style.

[DarthDaddicus]

I have recently begun wondering about the people around me now that I've begun doing this, so perhaps it "takes one to know one." I don't know. I know if I made you in a club, I wouldn't say a word. I'd just admire your work. You look awesome, lady!

[Rhonda Darling]

Are you sure they were referring to you? I just looked at your avatar and WOW! Folks, if you've not looked, do it now. Nicole, if that's your real hair -- amazing. If that's a wig - really amazing. Rare is the crossdresser who can put her hair up in the devil-may-care toussled look, make it look good and very sexy and casual, and then have the nonchalance look of today's youg women. You rock it.

So, I agree fully with all the comments about you passing with flying colors. We're all read at times. Some more often than others. The right attitude, look, and sense of self will carry you through.

Best,
Rhonda

[leannejacobs]

I'm 100% heterosexual, but you look like a hot babe, could it be paranoia and people were just checking you out, all I see is an attractive woman, mannerisms may give you away but as for the look, easy 10 out of 10.

[Hell on Heels]

Hell-o Nicole,
Did you honestly feel angry that this random guy clocked you?
But if he was just mentioning it to his friend, not all up in your
business, why be upset? You are a guy, just one that likes to crossdress.
I'd take it as sorta a badge of honor. Your dressing is convincing enough
that this guy felt he had to inform his friend.

Lorileah,,
As far as how a lumberjack walks??? He walks like a lumberjack.
Those women you speak of...well, they walk like lumberjanes.
We didn't hear what Nicole did that night, maybe it was Karaoke night?
https://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play;_ylt=A2KIo9XFQ0dYoG0AOM1x.9w4;_ylu=X3oDMTEyMX N1ZGRwBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDdmlkBHZ0aWQDVUkyRkJUMwRncG9z AzE-?p=lumberjack+song&vid=9759ca93d0d68003aaf60a6c6e82a63f&turl=https%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOV P.V5e78e9812b66ec83db548fe429ca42d7%26pid%3D15.1%2 6h%3D360%26w%3D494%26c%3D7%26rs%3D1&rurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DQ gaRd4d8hOY&tit=The+Lumberjack+Song+-+Monty+Python%26%2339%3Bs+Flying+Circus&c=0&h=360&w=494&l=134&sigr=11bgm5dvo&sigt=11m82pbqt&sigi=132fac9eo&age=1445419288&fr2=p%3As%2Cv%3Av&fr=yfp-hrmob-900&tt=b

The reason for getting noticed by this guy was probably a combination
of things. But hey! you caught his attention with your looks first.
Maybe he heard you talk? Maybe a bit of nervousness? Whatever!
You were out having fun just being you!
Much Love,
Kristyn

[qaws123uk]

You look amazing in the photos - you totally pass! Reading some of your other threads - happy it went well telling your sister etc.

[AmandaM]

I know how he clocked you. He was seriously checking you out. :)

[Stacey-J]

Totally jealous of your makeup skills honey, you look fantastic!

[Ashlee]

Ever been to Suzies dressing service there? You look awesome.

[mona lisa]

So went out in Dublin with my sis her man and my gf. Was a nice night out apart from over hearing a random guy on the street say to his friend that's a man :Angry3: was the first time I ever experienced any comments. But whatever I thought and kept my head up :) then I got inside the bar and a couple of other cd' ers were in there again first time seeing someone like me in public. Anyway I was kindda shaken up about being talked about and was kindda paranoid for a while but I was fine. Thought I'd share. Will post some pics of the night out soon but in the mean time I got a new lace top and some new makeup.

You are a lovely looking girl :)

[Vertipro1]

Nicole,
You are beautiful. I spend so much time looking through different forums trying to find if its even possible for a girl like me to become passable and here I find your posts.

You have such an attractive face, you wear outfits that suit your body wonderful and you have achieved a level of cleavage that i didn't think was possible without taking any sort of hormones.

I wouldn't worry about some fools comments.