Would the Thrill be gone if all clothes were acceptable attire?

[Billy]

If it were socially acceptable for men to wear dresses, skirts, nighties......... any and all clothing, would the thrill be gone?

[ClosetED]

If you feel a thrill at the risk of being exposed, then yes. I feel a thrill from seeing a pretty woman in the mirror, so it would not change for me. It would lessen as it became routine, but I would not do it every day. I still enjoy the feel of strong sun on my face or hearing birds sing. I guess you were meaning that lessening of the thrill, as humans cannot maintain that excitement to things that are routine. So yes, the current level of thril would be gone.
Hugs, Ellen

[Micki_Finn]

Not for me! I'd dress EVERYwhere... at least until I get into one of my "too lazy to shave" phases.

[Princess Chantal]

Nope the thrill wouldn't be gone for me, not everyone would be dressing up for the same reasons as I do.....

[Periwinkle]

Not really. A skirt doesn't stop being fun just because no one thinks I'm weird for wearing it.

[windshear]

Thrill, maybe. Fun and comfort, no.

[Taylor186]

Of course the thrill from the clothes would be gone. Women aren't thrilled by wearing the clothes they do today and neither would we in a gender free clothing world. They'd just be clothes, no different than today wearing men's jeans and a t-shirt.

[Teresa]

Billy,
As time passes our needs change, the thrill isn't the same. I feel I've reached the stage that when I know I'm going out I will have to wear something appropriate for the occasion and then hope it all works, I admit I feel great to be accepted but it's not a thrill, more of an enjoyable experience .
Dressing at home is mostly for comfort, in the past some clothes have been a thrill to wear, but you can't go out sexually charged all the time, it's something to get over in private.

[Leslie Langford]

Let me answer your question this way...suppose you were talking about a person's sexual libido, and you asked if the desire for sex ever left after one had engaged in it often enough. I think the answer for most people would be perhaps - for a time - but in due course, it always comes roaring back... ;)

I rest my case - LOL!

[Billy]

Teresa,
I do not get sexually thrilled from the clothing. I am questioning the underlying reason people dress. I do not dress for the thrill and would be thrilled if males had the socially acceptable choice to wear whatever they wanted. There is a social clothing discrimination against the male gender. If that were gone masculine men would probably be wearing skirts for comfort. However, people that do get the thrill from wearing would probably prefer gender specific clothing. Furthermore, if people could wear whatever they wanted whenever they wanted, they might be less prone to being so perfectly dressed. Throwing on a skirt with a 5 o'clock shadow to get a gallon of milk might be more commonplace. There would no longer be a concern for someone going outside in a nighty to fetch the newspaper.

[Princess Chantal]

Billy,
One thing I noticed early on with this forum is that people like to link the word "thrill" to sexual arousal. I had created a thread where I used thrill (in the similiar non sexual usage as you) and had the majority comments swaying to the sexual arousal definition.

[Billy]

Princess,
Thanks for bringing that to my attention. I was thinking more in the desire to dress.

GG's can wear anything they want. They do not choose to dress up all the time. They don't come home and put on pantyhose. I was asking my wife this morning why she doesn't like to wear skirts. She had to leave for work and tonight she goes to church. I hope to understand her answer later. I am guessing the skirt thing is because they feel they need to do more than put on a skirt and are worried about people seeing up the skirt. My feeling on people seeing up the skirt would not be a concern. People wear bikini's at the beach. If someone has on underwear then so what. If someone is naked and the wind caught the skirt, there could be some type of exposure concern depending on who might have seen the goods.

[StephanieM]

Knowing my personality once you remove the grass being greener it's not as exciting. I'd probably still go for the things that feel good to wear though.

[audreyinalbany]

yeah, it would. The part I like best about dressing is presenting as a woman, not just wearing a dress. If it were all androgyny I don't think there'd be any point

[Jenniferathome]

No. First, if there is a thrill, you are probably a new/closeted cross dresser. Once you go out "regularly" it's different. Not "thrilling" but still different.

Now, as to all female clothing be socially acceptable, Would argue that the cross dresser would find ANYTHING unique to women and emulate that. It could be long or short fingernails or hair, nail polish, ANYTHING that "only" women wear/show, we'd do that.

[Nikkilovesdresses]

The thrill then, after the novelty had worn off, would come from wearing something new, something a little bit more daring than your normal daywear; some gorgeous colour you never thought you'd enjoy. I get a real thrill out of fancy new guy clothes, just as I do out of fancy new gal clothes.

For me the thrill is all in the clothes, not in the adopting of a female appearance. What I get out of the latter is something far more meaningful, far deeper than a mere thrill. Thrills come and go; looking and feeling like a woman is on another level altogether.

[sara66]

For me it is more than just clothes. It is my alter ego. there still would be a rush going out.
Sara

[Meghan4now]

A nice suit, especially a Tux can also be "Thrilling" to wear, depending on what you mean by thrilling. You've heard the saying "look sharp, feel sharp"? Certainly acceptable. Maybe even if you do it everyday. One reason for military or other uniforms is to put you in the proper mindset.

[Pat]

It's an interesting question. I've always thought crossdressing was a symptom not an end in itself, so I would guess if there was no gender cue to clothing in our society, we'd focus on something else that did have a gender cue. I believe we're exploring our gender issues when we crossdress. I had asked a question once, if you had two identical pairs of jeans, one coming from the men's department and one from the women's department, would you still prefer the ones from the women's side. It was a while ago, but I'm pretty sure most people (who were on topic) said they would prefer the women's jeans anyway. The two questions seem the same to me.

[Meghan4now]

Jennie,

I think I agree with that translation of the question. Basically, do you wear women's clothes because they are women's clothes, or do you for some other physical reason. You could certainly go around in a kilt or some other ethnically oriented garb with features similar to women's clothes. Also, what about jewelry? Or riding boots (mmmm boots! Dang near ready to now!)

[ronda]

not a thrill for me I love dresses skirts high heels yoga pants panties and bras

[PamelaRI]

I don't think that thrill is what motivates me to dress. I like the variety of fabrics, colors and styles. They allow me to express better how I feel at any point in time vs. the male uniform. If in this idealistic world there were still gender differences, I agree with Jennie that I'd still find ways to do things on the female side of the line.

[Amy R Lynn]

I still feel a thrill when I get something nice to wear as a man. Granted its not the same type of thrill as when I dress as Amy. I would definitely dress more as Amy on a daily basis if it were socially acceptable. And I would still love to see that woman in the mirror when I put my face on.

[Amari]

I don't understand the thrill of doing something just because it is 'wrong'. I don't wear women's clothing because it is socially taboo, I wear them as I like the look and feel, and to emulate a woman as best I'm able.

[Alice_2014_B]

I have often thought about this exact concept, as if it happens over night.

The rush of being out in public would obviously vanish; however, I would still dress up.

:)

[Janine cd]

There hasn't been a thrill from dressing up in feminine clothes for me in many years,but the desire to do it is still very strong. What I feel most of all is a warm glow and a sense of utter satisfaction that I'm really a woman.

[irene9999]

I think there's some thrill to "looking good" even if it is guy clothes such as a nice suit or whatever. I think if it were acceptable to wear women's clothes I would still get that kind of a thrill

[Samantha Sometimes]

I've often thought about this. I think it's impossible to answer! I want to say that I'd dress everywhere all the time but if it wasn't "women's clothes" I doubt I'd want to wear it!

[KimberlyJean]

I would still want to present as a woman even if the clothes were accepted. It is not about it being OK in societies eyes for me it is about looking like I feel.

[TrishaLake]

funny enough I have had more acceptable behavior over the past two years and the it is just exciting if not more than before. I just love to dress...

[Lucy23]

What do you mean by thrill? The dictionary definition, or something else? I'm asking this because I don't think it's thrill I feel when wearing women's clothes. It's more like a pleasant feeling, like I'm happy.

Although in closet, I still love wearing the clothes; I'm confident I would continue doing so even if by some miracle the world decides to change its opinion in regards to clothing and I could wear whatever I want (that would suit the occasion of course) without anyone batting an eye or any repercussions.

[phili]

I think the variation in response to the question is due to variation in the kind of need crossdressing satisfies at a moment. I used to feel a thrill just from having access to the forbidden fruit of any piece of women's clothes. Now I never feel that- it is all available to me.

I still feel the thrill of sexual arousal when in the mood and I see myself looking sexually attractive in a flirty short skirt and imagine some fantasy sexual encounter. The thrill is gone when some burdensome thing like pulling up drooping panties interferes, or if I lose the arousal and get interested in something like a broken light switch, and the the layers of skirt and slip and stockings just feel like a complicated decorative package rather than a magic transporting elixir. Then I try to restore the thrill by removing more clothes so the perkiness is back.

When I am out on the town I lose the sexual edge, and don't feel a thrill, just a nice enjoyment of my dress and the general sense of feminine attractiveness, coupled with the sensations of skirt flowing or wind between my legs. That wouldn't go away if I could dress every day without restriction. I like the look and feel and would enjoy being able to enjoy it more. That enjoyment does depend on feeling relatively tolerant people around me, and that would be included in the 'no restrictions' scenario.

[Martina]

I would still want to present as a woman even if the clothes were accepted. It is not about it being OK in societies eyes for me it is about looking like I feel.

I totally agree with Kimberly that just putting on the clothes would not make me happy or thrilled in any way. It is how we feel inside not what we look like on the outside.
We crossdress to look the part and to feel we belong in the society's eyes, if we were to wear the clothes without the effort then I just don't think that we would fit in and still stand out like a sore thumb.


Princess,
Thanks for bringing that to my attention. I was thinking more in the desire to dress.
If someone is naked and the wind caught the skirt, there could be some type of exposure concern depending on who might have seen the goods.

How could anyone be naked wearing a skirt?

Martina

[Alaina R]

Yes. If essentially it was all the same it would not have the same sense to it, at least for me and would be less thrilling. Truthfully, I wonder when people on these boards say things such as "I just like the fabric and therefore I like to only wear panties", ignoring the fact that nowadays you can get pretty much the same thing but marketed as underwear for men. The fact that an item is identified as a "for women item" is part of the appeal - and part of the thrill.

[Acastina]

Interesting rhetorical question, but one that I can't begin to answer. Without the differentness of which half of humanity gets to wear it without issues, would the tactile rewards remain the same? Given the nature of sexual reproduction in two parts, and the traditional organization of society around that binary, I don't think we can do any more than speculate and offer individual guesses. I just know for me that there's an inner satisfaction (which may or may not qualify as a "thrill") when I see a woman in the mirror, and whether that would be different is just unknowable.

[ShelbyDawn]

I really don't get a 'thrill' out of dressing. It is an expression of who I am and if the stigma were gone, I would take full advantage of that opportunity. In fact, I'd probably wear the exact outfit I have on right now to work tomottow if I could.

[Becky Blue]

I don't get a thrill as you call it out of dressing, I feel many emotions such a happiness & joy, but perhaps the thrill of going out may be lessened.

[pinkcapri]

Yes it would change for me, will be more thrilled, will be going out easily on sexy clothing, just like any GG does today.

[Krisi]

I'm not sure "thrill" is the right word, but for me it's the hair, boobs and hips as much or more than the clothing. Wearing a dress or blouse and skirt doesn't do a thing for me without the added female body parts.

There are a lot of different ways to crossdress.

[mykell]

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i think that some people just accept that they are just clothes and wear what they see and like, this person looks totally female but is in fact a male model, no breast forms, padding, just someone who adopted the looks that they preferred, wish i had felt that way but society was different then....

[Lana Mae]

It is happiness not a thrill! Contented! No the happiness would not go away. They are after all just clothes. I would probably get dressed more! I derive happiness from nail polish, earrings, and my wig more than the clothes! Hugs LanaMae

[Kate Simmons]

Far from it my friend. The thrill for myself is having the freedom to be myself and express it. :)

[wearingtanpantyhose]

Oh my goodness, I'd be dressed ALL THE TIME! And if not in full mode, I know I'd be in skirts and pantyhose everywhere!

[Tracii G]

I don't see it as a thrill its just my clothes.
I dress everyday so its not a big deal.
To those that have to hide I can see why its a thrill but if it were accepted I think a lot of CDs would probably go back to wearing guy clothes more because its less of a hassle

[carhill2mn]

No, it would just make t easier for me to present as I would prefer to.

[abby054]

I was asking my wife this morning why she doesn't like to wear skirts.

My wife volunteered the information without being asked. In her opinion, skirts require hosiery and heels. Skirts restrict some of her activities. She must be careful how she sits and moves her body. They are not as comfortable all day long as good jeans or leggings, though the heels and hose have more to do with this than the skirt.

I agree with Jennifer : ANYTHING that "only" women wear/show, we'd do that, no matter how small or insignificant.

[Billy]

Yesterday evening my wife came home and showed me a website that had men's pants and was asking me if this was the kind of clothing I was wanting. A little while later I went downstairs in a new pair of ladies slacks I purchased online per her recommendation from last week. She told me that the slacks looked very nice, a little too big, and agreed that the fabric was nice. I proceeded to go upstairs and retrieve the other two unopened pairs. I went back to the living room and removed the pair I was already wearing and put on another pair that she also thought looked very nice except a little too big. I told her that I ordered the size I thought was correct based on the size chart. She told me she doesn't like to order online because of sizing issues. She showed me the male clothing again online. I told her to go to the hanes site. Then we went to JMS site and in the search window typed in the product number of the items I purchased. The ladies slacks were $12.99 versus $39.99 for the men's. I am sure that is the same case with the panties vs comparable men's briefs. Anyway, this is all new to us and the modeling and correspondence went well. The criteria I established in regards to the clothing is that I want nice fabric, nice look, elastic waistband, slacks that stay up without a belt, silky smooth feel. Honestly if they met that criteria and were clean in my drawer, I would take out a pair and wear them. I suppose that once we accept clothing as our own, it is no longer crossdressing in regards to us wearing it. It is only crossdressing in regards to how society perceives the attire. Obviously a full female makeover, is more than just wearing clothing deemed gender specific.

[Mickitv]

The thrill has and will always be there. I love wearing femme clothes. However, the thought of wearing whatever I wanted is beyond being thrilling. I would be elated over the idea wearing my femme clothes with no issues whatsoever. It would be my dream and I know someday it will happen.

[sometimes_miss]

No thrill at all, so if it were considered normal to wear clothes clearly designed for women, what I'd call it would be a relief. Sort of the way you feel when you've driven through a riot neighborhood at 2 a.m. on a hot summer night, and made it home without incident; the tension is gone.

[Lily Catherine]

I concur with sometimes_miss. I don't derive any 'thrill' from wearing clothing associated with the female gender. The conduct at stake for me is presenting myself as female, and I don't think that would change or leave me, nor does it arouse me now. On the other hand, I think the fashion landscape would move back to pragmatic designs instead. As a secondary school / college student I'd rather have worn a kilt than trousers... I would in fact foresee the revival of chiton-like garments.

[Sashauk]

I'm not sure I get a thrill from dressing any more. For me it is more about what I feel comfortable in so if it were acceptable to wear whatever I liked I would continue to wear lingerie and skirts etc. as I do now.

I like the feel of lingerie as it is softer and silkier than traditional male underwear so I think that has a lot to do with it for me. Also as a side-effect of my prostate medication I have developed breast tissue so wearing a bra is now getting to be less of something I want to do and more of something I need to do.

[Toronto Kristen]

I am not certain that there is a "thrill" to lose if all clothing became acceptable for anyone to wear. Personally, I do know that I would continue to wear the clothing that I like and that I find comfortable to wear.

For me, the real question is whether people would like to wear the formerly feminine clothing in everyday male guise without any social stigma.

[phili]

I am not certain that there is a "thrill" to lose if all clothing became acceptable for anyone to wear. Personally, I do know that I would continue to wear the clothing that I like and that I find comfortable to wear.

For me, the real question is whether people would like to wear the formerly feminine clothing in everyday male guise without any social stigma.

I think this is what Billy means- what if it is acceptable for men and women to wear whatever they want.

Under this scenario clothing and perhaps makeup and everything in the way of presentation [behavior too] would be free choice feeding. OF course, in this scenario there is no such thing anymore as crossdressing, since no line to cross! And many of us would wear and do what are now called feminine things, and there would be another term for it. I'm coming around to realizing that we aren't after being women [if we aren't transgender in the transexual sense], we are after the things women get to have,and we don't. That is the 'thrill' even if it seems just like a nice pleasure, nothing special!

The underlying need to recognize male and female for reproduction would not be limited in any significant way. I think this is not really the genesis of binary norms- I think it is really about power and commercial activity and sexual dimorphism is used as a platform. It is so strong because the underlying process is so easy to disguise - "Be sure your girls are attractive to men, and men know what the rules are for picking attractive women. Start when they are all babies and they'll never know!".

[Ellie Summer]

I get where you're coming from with this question, but like a lot of people who responded, for me personally there's no thrill in the risk of being caught. It does nothing but cause anxiety and discomfort for me. If it was more socially acceptable, it wouldn't take any thrill away from me. In contrast, it would add a thrill that there was enough social progress being made that CDers could feel more comfortable being their true selves rather than hiding in the closet.

[Sashauk]

I think this is what Billy means- what if it is acceptable for men and women to wear whatever they want.

Sadly this is so one sided. If a woman were to go out lose jeans and shirt with no make up and wearing work boots no one would even give it a second thought. But a man going out in a dress and heels with make up is deemed to be odd - and women complain they want equality. I think it's us men who deserve equality!

[Angie G]

I would be even more thrilled.I colud dress 24/7 and go where ever.I'd just love it.:hugs:
Angie

[Judith96a]

I think there's some thrill to "looking good" even if it is guy clothes such as a nice suit or whatever. I think if it were acceptable to wear women's clothes I would still get that kind of a thrill

Nailed it in one! For me the thrill comes from seeing the female me appear in the mirror and wearing beautiful dresses - not from partaking of 'forbidden fruit'. Funnily enough, my wife also gets a thrill out of wearing beautiful dresses, and she can do that any time she likes!

[Billy]

Would a GG in total female mode be beautiful with full makeup and painted nails and beautiful hair wearing a male tailored suit?

[sometimes_miss]

Would a GG in total female mode be beautiful with full makeup and painted nails and beautiful hair wearing a male tailored suit?
A hot woman in a burlap sack, is still a hot woman. Some things you cannot disguise.

[Alice B]

Not at all. It would only get better

[Nikki A.]

There is no thrill at this time, I feel comfortable either way. If it was acceptable to wear whatever I would just dress more often,

[Lacy PJs]

It seems to me that there is a difference in wearing the clothes and presenting as a woman. When looking at it this way, I see two answers; the obvious yes and no.

If I were going to some kind of aerobics class, sure, it would be great to wear a leotard and tights. But I'd not really feel like I wanted to present as a woman; I'd just rather be a guy in a leotard & tights. On the other hand, I'm not sure I'd like to be a "guy in a dress" without all of the trimmings.

So, as is most of the time... it depends...

Lacy PJs

[Meghan4now]

When you boil down the original question, it is really a question of motivation for crossdressing. Do you crossdress to be girly for the sake of being girly, or do you crossdress for another reason. The problem is that there are many ways to crossdress, and even within the same person different reasons for different aspects.

For example, Underdressing motivation is different than outer wear expression. One might underdressed for personal satisfaction, or because it is more comfortable. Or one might lie to one's self to say it more comfortable to justify the underlying reason of self satisfaction for doing something girly. While some may just like the adrenaline rush of "getting away with it" Certainly this last one may diminish if there were nothing to get away with.

Any given individual can have an array of motivations for these peculiarities. And as you progress in time, you may find these change. This is called maturity.

Personally I would LOVE for Riding boots (other than cowboy boots) to come back into fashion for men. Love the look, love the feel.

[Toronto Kristen]

While the subject is not exactly the same, there is some overlap in this article from The Independent, and the associated Reddit thread.
'I'd knit so hard, bro': All the feminine things men would do if they weren't judged
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/feminine-things-activities-men-would-do-masculinity-society-judge-knitting-yoga-pants-little-spoon-a7519131.html
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/5mr6yf/men_of_reddit_what_thing_would_you_do_if_it_wasnt/

[mona lisa]

No because the thrill of getting dolled up has nothing to do with being it considered socially unacceptable for a man to do such things.

Well in my case it does not anyway.

[Raychel]

It would make my life so much better if the world would be totally accepting
of my dressing style, It would greatly increase the amount of dressing time for me

It is not really a thrill for me, I am not the type to get dressed up and go out for the rush.
I dont like confrontation at all, Therefor I really dont go out dressed.

But if the world accepted, There would be no confrontations, and life would be good. :daydreaming:

[CDJoyce]

I would just relish being able to go out in skirt, panties and tights. There's quite a few dresses I'd love to wear. if it was totally acceptable I'd probably move to more feminine dressing style. I envy a woman in a beautiful skirt, nylons and shoes. I often think I wish I was able to dress like that.

[Ivy]

It would not change how I feel towards dressing. I do not dress to just wear the clothes, instead I dress to create a persona of my inner feelings. The clothes are a tool within that process that allows for the relief of that inner spirit. It is more the becoming of what I see inside, not just dressing as. :battingeyelashes:

[ShirleyN]

i don't think it would be for me. personally i'd prefer having the choice to choose between wearing a skirt/dress and trousers if they were socially acceptable attire.

[michelemcd55]

I am now supported at home with my SO I am thrilled to be able to express myself. I don't feel it is about the clothes but rather about who I am.

[Territx]

I agree with Judith96a and mona lisa. I guess I sum up my feelings as "dressing for the full look and effect or I don't dress at all!"

[rockerreds]

No, it would make things easier.

[sophie p]

Maybe the daring side or the thrill of not being caught but the sensation the feel , comfort and feeling great would be there more than ever☺

[Beverley Sims]

If your desire is to be a woman and you are accepted as one clothing would not make a difference.